The Eric Metaxas Show - Cary Cheshire

Episode Date: August 27, 2023

Cary Cheshire Executive Director at Texans for Strong Borders on the state of our southern border. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:45 In case you didn't know, there's a film. If today's Friday, it's going to be in theaters tonight. If today's not Friday, it's going to be in theaters, you know, like tonight, except not Friday. It's called The Hill, and it's starring Dennis Quaid. I don't know what more you need to know. It's starring Dennis Quaid's in 1500 screens. across the country. That's a lot. We have the director of this film, of the Hill,
Starting point is 00:01:16 with us, Jeff Chalendano. Did I pronounce it close? Celentano. Ceylantano. Hey, Chalendano. You grew up in New Jersey, correct? I did. Okay. So that's why you got a name like Chalendano. You know, that's just, it's an Italian name. But you, I want to ask you, this is a film about, you grew up a small town in a small rural town in New Jersey. A lot of people don't know that those exist, but they certainly do if you know the state of New Jersey. But this is a film about someone who grew up in a rural town, small town in Texas. And his name is Ricky Hill. That's why the film is called The Hill. And again, it's starring Dennis Quaid as the father of this athlete, Ricky Hill.
Starting point is 00:02:03 But I just kind of ask you right out of the gate, Jeff, how did you find your way to directing this story, because this is a story that I had not heard until I heard about this film. Yeah. Well, none of us heard about this story. Ricky was an obscure guy who had never really told many people about his story. Dennis Quaid, when I hired him to play Ricky's father, said, I just read the script. Is this true? Did this kid really do this?
Starting point is 00:02:29 This is like a miracle. I said, yeah, he did The Impossible. And he said, how come I've never heard of this story? And I said, well, there's so many stories out there nobody's ever heard of. And so that's why we're telling this one. It needs to be on the big screen. So my brother was in a hotel room, sorry, in a hotel lobby, and he was talking to somebody in a meeting, and he overheard Ricky next to him, the real Ricky Hill, talking about
Starting point is 00:02:51 his life story and how he couldn't find a director that he liked. He had been through like 40 directors, and he never felt they had the right honesty and heart for the film. And my brother leaned over and said, excuse me, sir, once he was off the phone, this is my brother on the phone. He's your director. talk to him. And Ricky was like, my brother's very aggressive. And Ricky talked to me and we just bonded. And he said, you have to read my story. I'm going to send you the script tonight. I read the script. I cried my eyes out through the whole thing. I was so touched that I've said this so many times, but it's the same every time. It got in my heart and it's not left even today that I had to tell this story. It was like I was on a mission. I just never gave up. And so that's how it ended up getting made. But it took 17 years. to get it funded.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I had been funded four times. The money fell through every time. And the last time it fell through. It was six years ago. Dennis had already been hired. And I thought we were going to lose Dennis. And he called me and said, listen, I love this story. It's the best story I've read in 20 years.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I'm on for life. As long as you can find a time span on my schedule, I will do the film. Well, now, for people who are, you know, tuning in and you're saying, what is the story? Tell us what is the story? because the story is about a little boy eight years old who was very poor his father decided to be a minister and a preacher and travel around the country and they got kicked out of a couple churches because his father was very adamant about no smoking in the church and treating the church badly Ricky would be very poor and go out on a railroad track and hit stones all day but he wore egg braces because he was crippled from the hip down so he just got so good at hitting rocks because he was so poor he had nothing nothing else to do. He hit 2,000 rocks a day. And of course, that transferred into baseball. He
Starting point is 00:04:40 wanted to play baseball. He was addicted to it. And his father would not allow him to play baseball. He was like, you're going to be a preacher? Because when Ricky was eight, he started preaching to the family imitating his father. And he got so good at it that he could recite the Bible back to front. And this is not a faith movie, but it's got so much faith in it because of the father. It just translates into that. So Ricky, behind his dad's back, ended up becoming an all-star player in high school. And right when the scouts were about to look at him, they came to the stadium to look at him, he trips over a sprinkler head and breaks his ankle. Now, wait a minute, this is unbelievable. I just want to go back. So here you have a kid wearing braces who knows he can
Starting point is 00:05:21 hit a ball. How does he play baseball with, you know, with leg braces? So at eight, about nine years old, he was in a sandlock game and they were calling him robot boy and making fun of them. So he knocked his brace off with his bat and he drug it across the field. And then the other one he took off and he could actually walk because he had worn them for so many years. And his father couldn't believe it because they wanted him to stay in the braces. You know how parents are. They're very worried, you know. So he ended up, his dad finally gave in and let him not have the braces on. So he started to learn how to run. And he got really good at it. But he could run. He could play just like a normal kid. He became an all-star player. But what happened, I'm about to tell you, is that
Starting point is 00:06:04 the story. So he breaks his ankle. He goes to the hospital. The doctors look at him, you know, examine him for the broken leg, and they find out that he has degenerative spinal disease. He has discs missing in his back, and he has the spine of a 70-year-old man. How old is he at this point? 17. And the tryouts were coming in two months. So he didn't have money to operate on the ankle to get him in shape for the event, you know, for the tryouts. So a man who like Shepard his life played by Randy Houser, the country singer, wrote a check and paid for his surgery and the rest of the money they raised in the town. And Ricky got the surgery and then cut his cast off because he still wasn't ready for tryouts. And when you see the
Starting point is 00:06:52 end, what he did, it's a miracle, like what he achieved. I mean, he got cut at the tryouts and he still came back and went up to the famous scout Red Murph had discovered Nolan Ryan and was crying. And he said, you have to give me a chance, sir. I'm hitting balls out of the park one after the other. I think I hit 16 home runs. And you won't even see me because of my bad leg. So what was his career then? So because I'm not clear on that.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So he ends up getting a career. Well, I'm trying to tell you a little bit at the end of the movie. But he does get signed to the Montreal Expos for four, five seasons. and he played on farm teams because the way he ran and because he became a designated hitter, he wore the Montreal Expo's jersey and he played pro baseball, but it wasn't major league. So the story really is what he achieved up to that point. And after five seasons, they discovered his degenerative spinal disease. He hit it from everybody because back then we didn't have computers and we couldn't internet.
Starting point is 00:07:51 We couldn't follow every little detail, you know. And so what decade are we talking about? 172 was the time when he got signed, but he started out as a kid in 60. So it goes from 1960 to 72. Yeah, 60 to 75, sorry. So this is obviously an inspiring story. So anybody who wants a family film that's inspiring and happens to be true. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I'm also amazed to hear how you got to direct this film. You mean to tell me that Ricky Hill knew that this news. that this needed to be a film. I mean, I find that part interesting, that he knew that he was working for years to get his story told because he knew that it was inspiring and that somebody needed to tell it.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah, at first he didn't want to tell the story. His brother wrote the story 50 pages and read it to the family, and Ricky didn't want anything to do with it because his dad had just died two years after his career was over. And then his mother died not long after that. So he didn't want the story really to be told.
Starting point is 00:08:51 When we screened the movie now, most of the screenings, Ricky just breaks down every time and I have to console him. It's just he's seeing his whole life flash before his eyes and he wasn't ready for that. So he was not really super strong about getting his story told. He had to shepherd it around with people telling him, you've got to tell your story, Ricky. And I'll tell you a great thing. He told me that only until a week ago, he never knew why his career was cut, why God took his special ability away that he had to play in baseball.
Starting point is 00:09:26 He said when the first baseball came at him because he hit so many rocks, it looked like a beach ball. It was so big. He could just hit the balls straight out of the park. And I researched all this. I have it all documented. It's all true. And so he said that he lost his faith. He was so upset.
Starting point is 00:09:43 He never knew why his whole life, why this was taken away. And he just realized it last week when we screened it for some people and it said they'd changed their lives and their kids now know what they want to do in life. He said the whole reason that's happened to me, I was put on earth to tell the story to give it back to other people. Folks, I think you know what you need to do. If this film got made, now you need to see it. It is all around the country. Jeff Chelendana, congratulations. The film is The Hill. Check it out. We need your help with food for the poor. These people need your help. Metaxus talk.com. God bless you. doing a campaign for food for the poor. Actually, I take that back. It begins today. Monday,
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Starting point is 00:13:02 but we want to speak specifically about defending the Texas border and southern border in general. Kerry Cheshire, welcome on the program. Glad to be here. Thanks for having me. Well, tell us why, I mean, I guess I would assume that defending our southern border means defying Joe Biden, but you've got the specifics in your article at American Greatness. So why do you put it that way?
Starting point is 00:13:26 why does defending our border mean defying Joe Biden? Well, that's a great question, Eric. I mean, the truth is the Texas border is under assault like it's never been before. I mean, to call it anything other than an invasion is an understatement. We've had over four million illegal aliens across the border just since Joe Biden has taken office. If you extrapolate that out to an entire term of four years, he's on track to potentially double the population in the United States. And, you know, before, you know, Border Patrol had been working to actively stop people from crossing the border. Now that role is being taken up by the Texas Department of Public Safety, Texas National Guard.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Meanwhile, Border Patrol are actually facilitating the invasion of Texas. They're actually removing the concertino wire that's been put in place. They're actually driving buses down into Mexico to pick illegal aliens up. Wait, I'm sorry. Who is doing that? The U.S. Immigration Services. Our federal government with the CB1 app is driving buses down into Mexico for people who have made an appointment to be picked up, be brought back in the United States, be processed under an asylum claim, fingerprinted, take their picture, say, hey, we're releasing you into the country. Come back in three years for an asylum hearing.
Starting point is 00:14:43 That's going on right now. Look, anybody with a brain knows that Joe Biden is the enemy of the United States of America. He is a force for evil, and it is horrifying. But when you hear the specifics, it's even more horrifying. You were going to mention one of the thing I interrupted you that is happening down there. Yeah, so the latest thing that folks might have seen are the buoys that have been placed in the river by Governor Abbott
Starting point is 00:15:14 and Texas borders are Mike Banks. These are actually very effective in stopping illegal crossings where they are. Unfortunately, they do. result in kind of channeling illegal crossings to ports of entry. But those have actually been placed in the river. And there, Joe Biden is suing Greg Abbott demanding that they be removed at the behest of Mexican officials who have made complaints. And so what we're saying on this issue and other issues that Abbott needs to not only refuse to comply with the federal government's orders, but to escalate his actions to secure the border. You know, it's very clear to anyone
Starting point is 00:15:47 who's read the Constitution that the federal government has a duty. to protect the borders of the United States, to protect the safety and sovereignty of American citizens. Joe Biden has refused to follow his oath of office, but Greg Abbott's taken one as well, and he should continue to take steps necessary to secure the safety of Texas. Well, I guess we're really seeing, you know, federalism in action. The idea that the governor of Texas has the right to do a number of things is doing some of those things. Why do you think he wouldn't do more? Why do you think, or is he doing more? I mean, but the idea that this many people have come in at this point is a little confusing
Starting point is 00:16:34 to me. In other words, if I were the governor of Texas, it seems to me that I would do everything to make it impossible for strangers to come into our country via my state. Yeah, that's a great question. So as you know, Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution, retains power for the states to defend themselves if they're actually invaded. And this makes total sense. If France was deciding to invade South Carolina, we wouldn't pretend like the governor of South Carolina was resigned to allowing French troops to occupy big portions.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Right here, I think that what we've been calling on is for Governor Abbott to declare an invasion and actually seal the border, prevent illegal entry. As to why he's not doing more, I think it's important to say he has done more than anyone has ever done. At the same time, he is still a, I think he's a long time. Somebody who's a very judicial history who wants to go through the process. And I think, unfortunately, continues to think perhaps the federal government will come in and actually do their job of securing the border. We've seen, though, that the Democrat Party has no interest in doing that.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Okay, how could the governor, is accepting as many people as possible and giving amnesty to them later so that Republicans can never win an election again. Right. So how could the seemingly conservative governor of Texas be astronomically politically naive? I mean, is Greg Abbott just playing a game? Everyone knows that the federal government under Biden is not going to do the right thing. Why do you think Greg Abbott is he being willfully naive? Is he playing a political game? I don't understand how he could plausibly pretend. that there is any hope that the Biden administration would do these things,
Starting point is 00:18:25 that he wouldn't need himself to do them? You and I are on exactly the same wavelength. I'll tell you, if either of us were the governor of the state of Texas, we'd send troops down, we'd secure the bridges over the Rio Grande, we'd stop illegal crossings from happening, we'd actually say to the federal government, hey, we're going to secure this border, and if you want to stop us, you're going to have to send the U.S. Marshals,
Starting point is 00:18:46 the U.S. airborne, somebody to come do it. And that's ultimately what I believe needs to happen. Governor Abbott has continued to take steps towards that. He's come a long way since he was first sworn into office. But unfortunately, he's not at that position at this time. I think, though, as you continue to see the crossings and not just the crossings, but the fact is the board is under control right now. It's under the control of narco-terrorist cartels,
Starting point is 00:19:15 which are more dangerous than al-Qaeda or ISIS, they're just as sophisticated as any terrorist groups that we've ever faced. They kill more people oftentimes than terrorist groups that we face. They have operational control over the border. The people who are coming across are paying them anywhere between $7,000 to $24,000 to do it. And then, unfortunately, you know, kind of they're able to maintain that because we don't have E-Verify laws. We don't have laws that actually protect American jobs for American workers,
Starting point is 00:19:44 so they can operate like loan sharks right here in the United States. They can get these people across. They can sex traffic them. They can human traffic them. They can line them up for exploitative labor conditions. And really kind of mortgage the future of our country from politicians who are unwilling to combat the reality of the situation at the Texas border. I mean, look, when I just hear a fraction of the stuff that you've said,
Starting point is 00:20:11 I'm so horrified. it's impossible for me not to think of Governor Abbott as a coward and as a bad leader. Why would anybody think anything else? When you've just described these things and he has the ability to do any number of things, you say he's taken some steps. We've never had anything like this. Of course, we would hope that he would have taken some steps and he's taken some steps, but it seems to me almost a joke compared to what he might do
Starting point is 00:20:42 given the horror of the situation. I mean, what you're describing is just in a few minutes is so horrifying. How can Governor Abbott be defended on any level when you're dealing with the things that you just said? I don't get it. I think you're absolutely right to be frustrated. I can tell you that many, many Texans share that frustration. I mean, perhaps the most galling thing was the decision to take individuals who had crossed the border and put them on buses or planes to other states,
Starting point is 00:21:15 to New York, to Martha's Vineyard or anything like that. I had a number of other Texans were saying, hey, why are we taking these illegal aliens? We're shipping them further into America. We need to be shipping them back to Mexico. We need to be shipping them farther down into South America where they can't come back. Why are we doing this?
Starting point is 00:21:32 But unfortunately, we saw that, you know, kind of fortunately, unfortunately, that actually started to kind of work in a sense that you have New York and other instances where cities are finally able to say, hey, we can't handle this illegal immigration problem. But look, I think there's competing ideas on how to handle this. There's the incrementalist approach,
Starting point is 00:21:51 and then there's the actual, I think the approach that actually understands the reality on the ground that says that, hey, we actually need military assets right now. We actually need to stop the invasion right now, and we need to actually secure the safety and sovereignty of America and Texas by sealing the border and ensuring. that illegal aliens do not come across. And if they do, they are caught and apprehended by Texas personnel and they are deported
Starting point is 00:22:17 by Texas personnel. I think there's clear constitutional authority to do that. I recognize that that sets up a brinksmanship situation with the federal government. But look, dangerous times call for dangerous circumstances. This is a real deal that requires real solutions. The Constitution provides a self-defense mechanism for the states. and I believe that Greg Abbott should use it to defend Texas. Well, to my mind, the only good thing that Greg Abbott has done
Starting point is 00:22:47 is putting some of these folks on buses and shipping them to places like whatever Martha's Vineyard or New York. That, to me, is the kind of provocative thing that people ought to be doing. But there's so much else that he could be doing, it's really deeply dismayed, disgusting. We'll be right back. Beyond the star, it's near beyond the moon. Tell me why Relief Factor is so successful at lowering or eliminating pain. I'm often asked that question just the other night. I was asked that question.
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Starting point is 00:24:31 I'm talking to Kerry Cheshire. He is the executive director of Texans for Strong Borders and no-compromise anti-illegal Immigration Group working to protect the security and sovereignty of the state of Texas. And since the state of Texas is part of the United States of America, I'm very grateful that there are people in Texas who understand that having a, an actual border is vital to American interests. So, Carrie, we were just talking about Governor Abbott. What I see more and more my take on this kind of thing is that there are,
Starting point is 00:25:08 we're living at a time right now. I mean, we've been through the decades being able, we've been able to tolerate weak leadership, leaders that are not great, like Greg Abbott. and we're at a time now when we need, you know, in The Godfather says we need a wartime consigliary. We need people with guts, with courage. Ron DeSantis is one of those people. I wish Florida had, was part of the southern border.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I know Kerry Lake from whom the election was stolen in Arizona is one of those kind of people. Greg Abbott seems to me to be one of the people who kind of goes both ways. he's not a total coward, but in many ways he plays a political game. He doesn't seem to be interested in really spending much of his capital. He seems worried about, I don't know, looking moderate at a time when we are at war. What you just described, anybody who's looking into what's going on on the border, it is such a horror that it's hard not to wish we had real leaders, leaders like Churchill and not Neville Chamberlain. I don't know if Greg Abbott has ever thought of himself as playing the role of Neville Chamberlain.
Starting point is 00:26:25 But Neville Chamberlain was not an entirely evil person. He was a pragmatic, fearful person, a naive person. It sounds to me like that's what Greg Abbott is today, because what we have happening on a southern border affects every American. It's an international issue. And to have him kind of playing this game when we have literally millions. I mean, this is where it gets preposterous. Literally millions of strangers coming into our country because of Greg Abbott, let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:26:58 He has the ability to do something about this. He's doing something, but it doesn't sound like he's doing anything close to enough. In fact, that's a fact. I don't know. What is your hope of what he might do? Or do the people of tech, does he just feel that because Texas is, you know, more purple than red, that he has to be careful, not to seem like. you know, anti-immigrant or something like that?
Starting point is 00:27:24 I mean, it strikes me that that's probably his political calculus. Well, I'll push back a little bit. We are a very red state, not a purple state. There's an effort by Democrats every year that, you know, will this be the year that they turn Texas blue and they always fail? But I think that's important because Texas is not only a state, but Texas is the cornerstone Republican state. We are the crown jewel of the Republican Party.
Starting point is 00:27:48 There's no path to 270 electoral votes without the state of Texas. And Texas has a unique position in the sense that it is one of the ten largest economies in the world. It has the largest swath of the border that actually matters, the border with Mexico, to where we are unique position to lead. I think the governor of the state of Texas should be kind of the spiritual leader of the Republican Party when Democrats are in the White House. And right now Democrats are in the White House, and Joe Biden is actually working with essentially the cartels to actually facilitate an invasion of Texas. And so Greg Abbott faces a war on two fronts from the federal government who is trying to stop him from securing the border. And the narco-terrorist cartels, the big business elites, and everyone else who want open borders who want people to continue to come across. And that's a difficult situation, but leaders face difficult situations all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I think you know as any not to act is to act, right? And this is a crisis of leadership that should demand someone rise up. I think that you were very, very good to mention Kerry Lake and Ron DeSantis. And that is the kind of leader that we need in the state of Texas. Someone who recognizes what time it is, recognizes the duty that they have, the oath that they took to defend the constitution of the people that they serve, to defend the safety and sovereignty of the people of Texas, the citizens who are they took. the bedrock of our republic. And that, you know, this crisis demands real leadership.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It doesn't demand press conferences. It doesn't demand, you know, kind of interesting legal theories. It demands, you know, people coming in and wielding power, wielding the resources given to them by the citizens who entrusted it to their government in the Constitution to defend them. And that is why we've continued to advocate and say that Greg Abbott needs to actually come out and be more forceful. We're thankful for the steps that he has taken. Obviously, there is much farther that he needs to go because there's no amount of illegal immigration that is okay
Starting point is 00:29:56 to the state of Texas. There's no amount of undermining of the safety, the sovereignty, the security of our republic that is okay for the state of Texas. Our citizens deserve a republic. That is the form of government that we chose, that we fought for that our founding father sacrificed and bled for and purchased with their lives if necessary. And our leaders need to enforce that for our people. Well, I have to say that, you know, when I think about what is, has been acceptable in the past, when you don't have a nightmare crisis, Greg Abbott and his style of leadership is accessible, is acceptable. But when you have a situation such as we currently have, you need a different kind of leadership to have plausible deniability.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Well, I did this and I did that. I don't know who you're fooling when you have literally children being raped and sex trafficked. Greg Abbott, that's on your head. That's on your watch. And it is horrifying to me that he could look the other way. I don't see how it's any different than Biden looking the other way at what's happening in Maui. It's very similar. And it's really lamentable when it's a GOP governor.
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Starting point is 00:32:19 promo code Eric. We used to laugh, used to cry. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Carrie Cheshire. He's the executive director of Texans for Strong Borders. He's written in an article at American Greatness titled Defending the Texas Border Means Defying Joe Biden. And the subtitle is Texas Border Enforcement has become a cat and mouse game with the federal
Starting point is 00:32:48 government. I was saying, Carrie, that I think that we're. at a time of such crisis in America that the kind of leadership on the GOP side that has been acceptable, people like Greg Abbott, it's no longer acceptable. In other words, if he doesn't understand what is at stake and what he might do that could counter that, you think, well, that's literally your job, Governor Abbott. That is literally your job. And when you say, well, I'm kind of not up to it or we're playing the long game. That sounds like pure politics. It sounds like the kind of political leadership or lack of leadership that has brought us exactly to this pass on so many
Starting point is 00:33:34 fronts, not just on the issue of the border. And it's something that obviously he thinks he can get away with, that he just he'll do this and he'll do that, but he doesn't want to do too much because he doesn't want to seem extreme. And that to me, it can look to some like, me like cowardice, that he is, he's more worried about things that he ought not to be worried about than the nightmare of utter strangers, many of them Chinese nationals pouring across our border. I just don't know if this isn't a crisis like a war. I don't know what is. I mean, when I've heard reports recently of Chinese nationals coming across our border, that's almost unbelievable to me that that is happening and that Greg Abbott isn't doing
Starting point is 00:34:23 everything he possibly could. That's why I speak as emotionally about it as I do, because you can't make this stuff up. This is actually happening. He could do something about it. And I guess he thinks he's doing enough, I guess. Well, I think you raised a really good point, which is, you know, kind of the threat to our sovereignty and security. It's not just Chinese nationals. I mean, you find stuff from 60 different countries. You find things in Arabic, you find things in Chinese, you find things in Russian. And that is because, you know, the threat of having an insecure border, who knows the individuals who are coming across.
Starting point is 00:35:00 We literally do not know because they haven't been apprehended. And I think oftentimes political leaders kind of look at things like kind of from an eighth grade political calculus of like, you know, looking for policies that are kind of quasi in the middle and thinking about reading polls and things. And time and time again, what we see the American people, what we see citizens actually respond to is leadership. We see that from people following Ronda Santis for Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:35:25 whereas people are actually, as Reagan said, they want bold colors, not pale pastels. And I think the solution to the cowardice of our elected officials is recognizing, hey, the people are with you. They want you to pick up the flag and lead, and they will follow you. I think, as I said before, the Republican governor of the state of Texas
Starting point is 00:35:45 to be the leader of the, of the, of the, opposition while there's a Democrat in the White House. And right now we're not seeing that from Greg Abbott. We should see, we shouldn't have to look out from Texas at swing states for stronger leadership than what we're getting here in the state of Texas. Again, you know, as we articulated, there have been a lot of steps that have been taken and those are positive. But as long as illegal aliens continue to come across the border, so long as Joe Biden continues to facilitate an invasion of Texas. We need stronger leadership in Texas. And I think that Greg Abbott should provide that. If he is not willing to provide that, he should step aside and someone else will.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I have to say, my take on it is that people like Greg Abbott simply don't have it within themselves. I really believe that. In other words, that is not who they are. Just as much as Churchill or Donald Trump has that boldness being willing to do things that everybody says you mustn't do exactly like Ronald Reagan often did things that everybody, you know, all the safe hands said, nope, don't do that. That's too bellicose that'll come across wrong. He knew it was right and he did it. I don't think Greg Abbott is that kind of a leader. And I think that it's disturbing to say that. But I simply think it's true. I think that this is who he is, and he thinks this is the smart way forward. Just as Mike Pence thought doing nothing on January 6th was in the best interest of the country,
Starting point is 00:37:28 or certainly in his political best interest, I think they're flat out wrong. I think that they always take the safe path, and I think we've arrived at a point in this country where that kind of leadership is absolutely worthless, and we have to reject it. and we have to do so clearly. Let's go back to the villain that is Joe Biden. Why do you suppose he is enabling this kind of invasion to happen in our country? I would say that Biden is genuinely an enemy of America, of we the people, of the founder's vision of America, that he is the enemy of that, he wants this country to be destroyed and to be crippled. Exactly why is complicated.
Starting point is 00:38:20 But when you look at whether it's his economic policy, whatever it is, it seems calculated to weaken the United States of America. Well, I think it's very clear the Democrat Party is the party of control. And the thing that they don't control right now is they don't control the population. And so the easiest thing that they can do is,
Starting point is 00:38:41 you know, the famous quote, would it not be more easy to dissolve the people and elect another. I think that the Democrats see that they have this coalition of the ascendant, that immigrants and non-citizens and people who they have been able to control through the long march through institutions of, you know, government, of public schools, of public universities, where they're indoctrinated with leftist propaganda, that if they import enough of people, that they will be able to override the native-born American citizens who have been raised to love our country, to fear God, and to want to safeguard our republic.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I think that, you know, the Biden administration, I don't know how much if it's actually Joe Biden, because I don't know how much he is mentally conscious on a day-to-day basis. But the Democrat Party is absolutely dedicated to having an open border, to having cheap labor that benefits big businesses, that depresses the middle class, that enables more people to be on welfare assistance, and thus more people to become Democratic. voters. And there's no interest that they have in having a secure border. There's no interest that they have in stopping illegal immigration. It runs counter to their self-interest as Democrats who want to control the population that frankly don't like Christian, Republican, American culture and want to
Starting point is 00:40:04 see that overridden that have no problem with English as a second language. We'll have to leave it there. Forgive me, forgive me, Carrie. But it's a joy to have to have you on talking about this very important stuff. Kerry Cheshire is Executive Director of Texans for Strong Borders. You can read the article in Americangratness.com. Hey folks, welcome back. A couple of quick things to remind you of. First of all, we have a radio website.
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