The Eric Metaxas Show - CMMTuesday Hour 2 (YAF Conference, part 2 220802)

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

Eric's speech at this year's Young America's Foundation convention in Washington, D.C. continues, with questions from the audience.

Folks, welcome to the Eric Metaxus show, sponsored by Legacy Precious Metals. There's never been a better time to invest in precious metals. Visit legacy p.m. Investments.com. That's legacy p.m. Investments.com. Eric McTaxis show with your host, Eric Metaxis. Folks, this is a special edition of the Eric Mataxis show. Last week in Washington, D.C., I gave what I felt was an important speech. We wanted to play that speech on this program. We're playing the whole speech. today. You can find it on my various social media places if you want to send the video out. I do ask you to share today, whether as a podcast, however you want to share it, with as many people as you

can. It's an important speech. Here it is. You need to care about what we the people think. And when we the people are told, shut up, don't bring that up. If you bring that up, you'll pay a price. What does that tell you about the people who are telling you to shut up that you'll pay a price. You might get arrested. The IRS might look into you. You might get sued. You better shut up. That is bullying. It is the utter enemy of liberty on the American model. And there are many in the GOP today who are going along with that for their own careers, thinking it's wiser to keep their mouth shut, not to side with that divisive figure named Donald Trump. And it's because of that, that I will side with that divisive figure named Donald Trump all day long.

I have another very short book coming out in about a month and a half called Letter to the American Church, where I hope, in a gracious way, try to point to those in the church who have been silent, who have said, oh, we don't want to get political. When people are murdering the unborn, you might need to be political. Now, the point is, is it's not even political. It's simply standing up for what is right and true. When young women are having their careers destroyed because giant dudes are jumping into the swimming pool claiming to be women, if you don't speak up against that, you're a coward because you need to care about those women. When there is unbelievable evidence that young people should not get

an experimental vaccine and you say, shut up, don't talk about that, get. Get a, the bleeping vaccine or you can't go to your concert, that tells me everything I need to know, because that's not how we communicate in a free republic. In a free republic, we respect we, the people. We respect the votes of we, the people. We respect the opinions of we the people. We, the people, govern ourselves. And when you have an elitist class, which is effectively globalist, which cares less and less about American values, making their peace with the devil and saying, you know, maybe America's days are over.

Folks, if you make peace with that, you are part of those people ending America. You are destroying freedom by your silence. Dietrich Bonhofer, whom I mentioned, some of you are familiar. I wrote a biography of Dietrich Bonhofer, who is a German hero who stood against the Nazis. when most people said to him what they said to Reagan,

hey, hey, hey, hothead, keep it down, keep it quiet. Don't be so divisive. This will blow over. Hitler's a one-term furor. This will be fine. We'll be fine. The pendulum swings back and forth. Well, yeah, the pendulum swings back and forth.

Scores of millions of Jews and others were murdered because of the silence of good people. Because of the silence of pastors who didn't want to ruffle any feathers, who didn't want to be looked into by the government, from the silence of all kinds of good people who would have considered themselves conservatives, loving Germany, nothing like Hitler.

But if you do not speak against the evil, you're complicit with the evil. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil, not to speak, as many from this podium did not speak about these evils. Not to speak is to speak. you're speaking volumes in your silence not to act is to act God will not hold us guiltless

history will not grade you on a curve all of those who were silent in the days of the Third Reich who said I think it's going to be okay keep your nose clean let the hot heads take it on the chin let them go to jail let let them go to jail for January 6th they had a January 6th in Germany in 1933 was called the Reichstag fire extraordinarily bizarrely similar situation. Something that the narrative that we're getting on January 6th is like 98% baloney. But everyone is complicit in pushing this baloney narrative, including people from this podium,

who firmly believe in whatever that narrative is. I'm here to tell you, I wish they were right, but I know that they're wrong. And those of us who know they're wrong can never let the world forget. get that in America, we don't treat people that way. We don't treat our people that way. We don't tell you, if you disagree with me, you'll pay a political price. That's out of the pit of hell. That's out of the Soviet Union. That's out of communist China, which murders people who dissent. And if you do not speak up against it when it happens in your country, you are in bed with the communist Chinese. They don't believe in liberty. I simply say these things because I know. I know.

that this was not a fair election. And when you know that, and you know there's a huge price to be paid for speaking up that, but you think, like, can I remain silent? Can I write about somebody like Dietrich Bonhoeffer who gave his life for the truth, and I'm going to remain silent to help my career? I don't give a damn about my career. God is the author of my career. And if you don't know that God is that God is the author of your life and that your job is just to do the right thing and trust him with the results. If you don't live that way, you're not free. You need to be free. I know we have just a few minutes for Q&A, and so if anybody has any questions, I would be delighted to answer them. And I'm happy to do that as long as you're willing to suffer me up here.

I want to say, God bless you and God bless America. All right, so just a reminder to state your name and the school that you like you. Hi, Mr. Metaxus. My name's Charles. I'm from the University of Michigan. Those are the Spartans. Thank you. Thanks so much for coming to speak to us today.

I wanted to get back to what you were talking about, how compulsory virtue and faith are not virtue at all and not faith at all. Right, right, right. Do you think that that principle might necessitate conservatives maybe approving the legalization of such things that are not entirely virtuous but also don't affect non-consenting third parties such as gay marriage or no-fault divorce because is it possible that forcing people to not partake in those things would be compulsory virtue? Well, it would be true in a vacuum, but in reality, as people like me said, the reason, I mean, the reason we ought never to have said yes to same-sex

marriage is not only because of the natural law and because the, the silliness of the idea that two men could be married in the terms of what we have always considered marriage, but because it will affect everything. What we have seen, what people warned about, here's the issue, okay? If you're supposed to have religious liberty, when the government puts its thumb on the scale and says, these ideas, these are religious ideas, our view of marriage, our idea of the human person, or idea of sexuality, or idea of the unborn, these are inevitably religious ideas. In case you haven't been paying attention, the Biden administration has caused a financial crisis and they have no clue how to fix it.

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important speech to the Young Americans Foundation in Washington, D.C. We play that speech in its entirety. Please share it as you're able. God bless you. It destroys, it destroys everything. And so now people

who don't tow that line and say, Heil Hitler to the rainbow flag or whatever it is, those people are now being demonized. with the power of the government. And my attitude is you don't have to agree with people on those issues, but you have to respect them. You have to respect in this country we have dissent.

You have to respect that anybody who believes in the Bible, which is, you know, a lot of people in this country, don't believe that any sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman is a good thing. And if you don't respect those, well, look, that's just, it's the way it's been for, since forever. This is not just Americans. This is any serious Muslim, any serious Jew believes that. But we're acting now like, well, you can't have that opinion in the United States of America.

And that is what happens when the government gets in bed with ideologies. They don't say that they're establishing a religion, but in effect they're establishing a kind of religion. There's no way around it. And so some terrible things have happened, and everything is at a whack as a result. of it. Anyway, I'm sorry, that was the long answer, the short answer I can do later. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Metaxas, thank you for being here. My name is Justin Sharp. I'm from Oregon, but plan on attending Oklahoma State University here in about three weeks.

All right. Yeah, go pokes. My question to you is, when we think of the conservative movement and people have really pushed it forward, two names that we mention a lot, are Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump. One of them won 49 states in re-election, the other one had a lot of controversy and was the most unpopular president in American history at the time. So my question to you is, where do we draw the line between fighting for conservatism with a backbone through leadership and bringing people on board versus ramming it through like a bulldozer? Well, I think, again, you have to take things in context. You remember Abraham Lincoln?

I know most of you are too young. In fact, I'm too young to remember Lincoln. But you know he was shot. You know he was a great president. And in my book, if you can keep it, which you got a free copy of, I talk about him. No one understood everything I'm talking about better than Abraham Lincoln. It's astonishing how great he was just on that. Even as a very young man, he understood this stuff.

And when he did what he did, he was insanely unpopular, okay? Listen, to suspend habeas corpus, do you understand? You think that took courage? Okay. Now, for Mike Pence to send things back to the states on January 6th would have taken courage. There would have been tons of people to say, you can't do that, you can't do that. Just like they said to Lincoln, you can't do that. Just like they said to Reagan, you can't say, Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall.

You can't say that. Don't you understand. You can't say that. That's divisive. Don't say that. Don't say that. Don't say that. A leader knows what he must do and understands that there are going to be times when he's flirting

with he's on the border. This is very difficult. I mean, what Lincoln did, what Reagan did, you are really, it's between you and God. Am I going to do the right thing and trust the results to history and to God? Or am I going to do the safe thing? And I want to be really blunt here and say that, you know, I, it's nothing but ironic that when we talk about character

making campaign promises and living up to them in my lifetime and I'm like three times older than many of you I have never seen that in my life until Donald Trump and I can't tell you how shocking it was to me to see him say these wild things on the campaign

trail and then actually refer to it after he's elected and get it done to talk about bringing originalists on the Supreme Court, he didn't even just say that, because that would be safe. He said, people who are against Roe v. Wade. Like, he actually said that, right? Now, guess what? That's true, and it's right,

and he had the guts to say that. That is called character. Now, cheating on your wife is wrong. We all know that. But I just want to tell you that when you're talking about character, you have to talk about all these different things. Are you willing to fight for what is right and true and good? Are you willing to fight for America when everybody else says, you know, I'll take a pass on that one? I want to be viable in the next election cycle. Or do you put it all on the line? So I find it tremendously ironic that a thrice married, philandering Manhattan real estate developer, I live in Manhattan, would be used by God to show the American church and conservatives and patriots what courage looks like. I find that tremendously ironic.

But I found, I do not think, I think the key is that figures like that, they can read the seasons, they can read the times, and they see what is necessary, and they're willing to be spat on and vilified and to look unpopular. And I think you have to be realistic, and you have to say, if this was 1980 or 1984 or 1994, that's a different time. And we're at a time right now when everything that we barely still have is going away quickly. You will not get an opportunity. If we don't win this fight now, if we do not face squarely the lies of January 6th, the narrative being shoved on us, the narrative being shoved on us by globalist, Marxist-friendly, big tech and big pharma, if we don't stand against this now with everything we have, We will not be able to have conversations about this.

We're going to be no longer free. If we weren't there, I would say, well, we can have a conversation about it. But unfortunately, I wish I were wrong, that's where we are. Thank you. Hello, I'm Connor Brown from the University of Missouri, Columbia. I think you would agree with me and most of us here that the U.S. government in the status quo has kind of overstretched its bounds in the past. and I think one good example of that would be the Patriot Act

that kind of triggered NSA surveillance of American citizens. And conservatives like Eric Mataxis were quiet about it at the time, and I repent, and I'm ashamed of that. And I want us to be clear that we need to, when you get something wrong, own it and repent. And there's time for anybody, whether it's Mike Pence or anybody in the establishment, there's time every minute to say, I was wrong.

And when you say that, America is very, very forgiving. We need to be honest about what we have screwed up on. And on that issue, many of us screwed up. We bought into the kind of deep state narrative and went along with it. And so thanks for bringing that up. But that's not your question. Go ahead. Well, what I was going to say was many of us are, you know, for repealing the Patriot Act

and taking that back because, of course, the NSA used it to collect email information, phone records, and even used Prism software that actually breaks into private networks. But the problem is that the Biden administration says, sure, we'll take it back. But in turn, now they're looking to what you said is also a fear of big tech and using basically subsidiary companies like Apple and Google, things like that, to spy on the American people for them. So how can conservatives kind of retain privacy for the American citizens while repealing the Patriot Act? I don't know the answer to that. I'm not adept enough at these kinds of things. any answer, but I do know that we need to take these things very seriously, and that when people,

like I mentioned Naomi Wolf, my liberal feminist friend, she was screaming about this in 2004, and I thought, well, I'm a Bush guy, whatever he's doing is fine with me. Shame on me and shame on anybody who went along with that. We now know that, I mean, look, as evil as it was for Mike Pence to suggest that Donald Trump was asking him to go around the Constitution on January 6th. That's simply wrong, and it's horrifying that he said that. It's horrifying. It's despicable that he would say such a thing, because it's simply not true. But George W. Bush, on the anniversary of 9-11, recently passed, equated the people on the Capitol

on the Capitol on January 6th to the 9-11 people. And I just want to say, if you had ever told me that people... people that I really liked and agreed with, like Mike Pence or George W. Bush, could be so dramatically deluded into accepting the narrative of people who are effectively our enemies and are the enemies of freedom. I wouldn't have believed it. So we're living in a very difficult time. We simply need to understand what we're dealing with and get on the right side of it and do everything we possibly can. So, yes, ma'am. Tell me, Eric, why is relief factors so successful at lowering or eliminating pain. I'm often asked that question. The owners of Relief Factor tell me they believe

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And so the hypothesis may be that the more people who can invest their identity in life to a relationship with the Lord would help us secure our republic in a number of ways and a handful of people have suggested this. And I am in the business of converting liberal inner-city youth to the conservative movement. And so my question is, how do we get more youth towards these avenues, specifically liberal youth? And I ask because so much of the liberal agenda grabbing youth is almost in direct contrast to God, not just a matter of ignoring those basic principles. So we have issues of, you know, godlike complexes with a gender identity as just one example. So how do we draw youth to these sorts of faith-based relationships, specifically? How do we, fellow young people,

stop our current media and political figures from drawing incorrect images of God, faith, and higher order. Well, I think the first thing, that's a wonderful question. Thank you. The first thing we have to say is that at its core, we are in a spiritual battle. Even people who aren't people of faith, they can kind of smell this. You smell evil, okay? Critical race theory, okay? The whole BLM organization and most of the movement. These are atheistic movements. They don't, I want to say to somebody like, hey, okay, I know racism is wrong because the God of the Bible says we are all made in his image. We are equal. He's no respecter of persons. That's why racism is wrong. If you're an atheist, you tell me, why do you say it's wrong? Now, I promise you, the atheist can have no rational answer

to that question. They will get angry because you've just pointed at that. But the fact of the matter is, if you want to talk about the concept of a world without God where we evolved from the primordial soup as if into what we are today, I wrote a book called Is Atheism Dead, where I think it flat out proves through the evidence. This is not evidence that I've come up with. It's just evidence that I pulled together, that even the thesis that there is no God, we now can say boldly is utterly preposterous. Like, just forget that. You want to be an agnostic? You want to say, have questions? That's fine. But the thesis that there is no God is simply preposterous and untenable, and you need to deal with that reality. We need to recognize that in history, sometimes

certain ideas kind of come into full flower. What we've been seeing, the liberal agenda over the decades has rarely been openly hostile to God. But we're at that point right now. It's a fascinating thing. And in many ways, I find it funny, that because of Trump in a way, it kind of flushed the birds out of the bushes. And they, you know, they couldn't stop themselves from saying whatever was on their mind. So we now know that if you believe in critical race theory and the whole BLM agenda, for example, or the transgender agenda, these are ideas that are at war with God. And if you care about young people in poverty, young people of color, you are obliged to speak against the BLM CRT agenda. You have an obligation. If you are silent,

you are making certain that those people are going to suffer. If you actually care about young people. You don't care about virtue signaling to your friends, but you actually care about young people and you care about what God thinks of what you do. You will courageously speak against those things, not because they're liberal or whatever, because they are not reality. And so in a funny way, sometimes I think maybe we need to understand that it's not about converting people to conservatism or to Christian faith or whatever. It's about converting them to reality. Either it's true or it's not. Okay. You know, if Jesus didn't rise from the dead bodily, I'm really not interested in it because it's a nice bunch of ideas. If the

Bible was created by people in the middle ages, and I know that to be true, and I know it to be folk tales, I'm not interested in following it. I'm interested in what's real and true, but I'm here to tell you, as someone who's looked into it over decades, these things are real and true. So you don't need to convert a young person to anything except reality. And I really find that that that's one of the beautiful things about getting married and having children is that suddenly you're dealing with reality. Suddenly you're dealing with, I have to pay the bills, I have to kind of suck it up, you know, for the little one. If you haven't experienced that yet, you're still in a way able to exist in this ideological bubble. But when you start dealing with reality, when you

have a job, when you create a business, you have to deal with this thing called reality. And so what we ought to be arguing for is what is true and what is real. When you're arguing for what is true and what is real, you're arguing for the God of the Bible. You don't even have to mention him by name. When you're arguing for what is real and true and factual as all the things that I've been sharing with you, either these things are true or they're not. My Pillow is having their biggest sheet sale of the year. You've all helped build my pillow into the amazing company it is today. Now Mike Lindell, inventor and CEO wants to give back exclusively to his listeners.

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The offer will not last very long because these percal sheets are known to sell very quickly. Order now with promo code Eric at Mypillow.com. That's mypillow.com. Promocode Eric. Folks, in both hours of today's program, we are airing an audio of a speech that I gave last week in Washington, D.C. to the Young Americans Foundation. I considered it a very important speech. It was difficult to say some of the things I said, but I said them because I felt an urge to say them for the sake of my country. I hope you'll listen to it, and I hope you will please share it as you're able. But when you look through history and you try to figure out what is real, what works? If you want to bless people struggling in poverty, what's going to work for them?

A virtuous free market economy or socialism? If socialism worked, I would say, fine. it will crush people. Historically, it has crushed people. So I think we need to simply make our arguments based on reality and on history, trusting that people will respond to that. It's not about signing up for my team. Come on, be a conservative. I mean, I don't care if somebody's a conservative. I care if somebody sees what's true. Maybe they don't think of themselves as a conservative. If you realize a lot of people during these crazy times in which we live, a lot of people either who were on the left or who were in the middle or wouldn't have called themselves anything are finding themselves siding with many of us on a lot of issues simply because things

have gotten so bad that they have to speak up. And they see the censorship when you see a guy like Joe Rogan being demonized and vilified because he said, I'm going to try Ivermectin. Oh yeah, why? Because I actually care about my health and I'm going to try to do what I think is right for my health, and you're going to criticize me for that. When people like that see that blowback, they go, what's this blowback? So you don't care about my health? You don't care about my freedom to make my own medical decisions? That doesn't smell good. That doesn't seem right. People like Naomi Wolf, I mentioned. People like a host of others are waking up to the cancel culture. I was recently in Las Vegas at Freedom Fest. I'd never been there before. And I had the privilege

of interviewing John Cleese. Now, you're all way to do. too young to know who John Cleese is. I'm curious, how many of you know who John Cleese is? You can go take a cigarette break. John Cleese is one of these comedy legends, okay? He has been seriously liberal most of his life. The man's a genius, but he is so disgusted by the cancel culture. And remember, cancel culture is Marxism. It is anti-freedom, okay? He's so disgusted by it that even he has come out of the closet and started talking about it. So I simply think if we argue for reality,

we see that many, many people are, they're interested in what works. They're interested in what's right and true, and they'll find their way at their own pace. And a final word on cancel culture, it needs to be said. Cancel culture, again, it's Marxism, because you see, if you know the history

of the Soviet Union, if you know the history of what's going on in China, if you know the history of the French Revolution, always people who don't believe in truth, they don't believe in the God of truth, they don't believe in right or wrong, they believe in power. That is a satanic agenda, folks.

When you say, I don't care what's right or true or good, I want to win. If that's what is in your heart, you've allied yourself with the darkest forces imaginable. And that is what cancel culture is. And cancel culture, theologically speaking,

is the antithesis of the Gospel of Grace. The Gospel of Grace says, you screwed up, you said a bad thing. Well, God wants to forgive you for that. God knows that we're all screwed up. We do things and say things that we might later on go, whoa, I got that wrong.

The God of Grace says, okay, so we're all screwed up and let's bring forgiveness for what you did. You had an abortion, you participated in an abortion. What God wants you to understand, that's wrong. He wants to forgive you. He wants to heal you. He wants to love you.

He can't force you. That's the antithesis of cancel culture, which says, you said that wrong thing way back when, we want to shut you down. We hate you. It brings a chilling effect. That chilling effect is the fundamental enemy of liberty and freedom.

And we have to do everything conceivably possible to preserve what freedom we have and to fan the flames of freedom so that in the future, in a few years from now, we can still be having this conversation freely in the United States of America. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you. Bless you. Folks, the headline is, we need your help. What do I mean by that? I mean at least three things by that.

Number one, if it's possible for you to get to be part of our studio audience, August 3rd, 4th, and 5th, and 8th in New York, this week, it starts about 4 o'clock every day. We're taping the late night, the talk show with Eric Metaxus. It is a mainstream TV talk show. We don't have time to get into it now, but it's nuts. We've got a lot of mainstream guests. It's going to be a blast. We can't share most of it with you. yet. But if you can get there, go to Ericmataxis.com. You'll see where it says speaking or schedule,

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Food for the Poor. Food for the Poor is an amazing Christian nonprofit relief organization. they go where there is a need. And I just want to tell you right now, they are helping families who have fled the Ukraine. Now, we don't need to get into the politics of it. These are people that are suffering. And we want to show them the love of God. We want to help them. Food for the poor, I can't think of anybody that I would trust more to do that. So food for the poor is partnering with a number of Christian organizations, relief organizations, ministry partners to get food, literal food to these families that have fled their homes. They've left everything behind. If you know anybody who's ever been through anything like this, my parents experienced this

kind of thing, it's hellish. And we want to show them the love of God. So I want to ask you simply to call this number to help, or you can just go to the banner. Our banner is metaxis talk.com. that's the radio banner. We want you to give. We want you to give generously. We just want everybody who listens to this program to do what you can. By God's grace, we are able to do something. Let's do what we can. So please go to metaxis talk.com or you can call this number. I'll give it to you right now. 844-863 hope. Please dial that number. Please give what you can now. It's August 1st. We don't have a lot of time to do this. It's always a struggle.

God bless you as you give. 844-8-6-3 hope. 8-4-8-6-3 hope. These are people that are struggling, and we need to do what we can to help them. 8-4-863 hope, 844-863 hope. Metaxistalk.com. You'll see the banner there.

And Albin and I will shortly let you know everybody who gives anything. We will put your names in a hat, so to speak, proverbial hat, and we'll have a number of grand prize winners. We want to give you signed books and all kinds of things. And I always say anybody who can give $10,000 as tax deductible, I'd be delighted to have dinner with you, to spend an evening with you. We always manage to make that work. So remember, 844-863 Hope, 844-863 Hope, or go to metaxis talk.com. God bless you. What they make?