The Eric Metaxas Show - Comedian, Christian, and Conservative Brad Stine

Episode Date: September 25, 2025

Brad Stine joins Eric to discuss his career after coming out as a christian, and the state of America. 

Welcome to the Eric Metaxus show. It's the show featuring Go Go The Chimp. Nothing like a chimp to liven up the radio show. Easy there. Go, go, go, go, go. Folks, welcome back. As you know, I'm friends with Lucas Miles, who's the pastor, who's the head of TPP USA Faith, who is a friend of Charlie's.

He has a bookout called Pagan Threat, Confronting America's Godless Uprising, the forward by Charlie Kirk, our dear, dear, dear friend. Lucas, welcome. Thank you, brother. Appreciate that. What do you want to say about that we weren't able to talk about the last time about your book and about where we are in the nation at this time? You know, a lot of people have referred to Charlie, and we've seen this all over the news, you know, you hear words like he's provocative or he's a, you know, conservative activist. and I don't think any of those things are really the best way to describe Charlie.

I think the best way to describe Charlie is he was a Christian. He was a disciple of the Lord Jesus. To be a Christian means that you stand up for the truth. To be a Christian means that you are willing to put your own life in danger for the sake of the gospel. To be a Christian means that you're going to say things that are going to be an effect. to people who are in rebellion, you know, to God and, and who are, you know, living their lives counter to the truth. Charlie was a Christian. That's the best way to describe him. And, and I think that, you know, of everything he did, he showed us that, you know, what it looks like really to follow Christ

to give it all. He talked, I mean, all the videos coming out, I mean, of just how, it's eerie, how many times people asked him about the risk and the, you know, the threats. the threat of death and, you know, and every time it's just like, it doesn't matter. This is what we do. This is where we go. Charlie, one thing that he understood is he understood how to develop an apologetic for Christianity to properly defend the faith. And in this new book, Pagan Threat, really in that spirit, and obviously long before I had any

inclination, this is going to be the situation that we were going to find ourselves in or the conditions at which my book would be released in. I set out to really write what I call a new apology for the church of tomorrow as we move forward confronting this pagan threat, this pagan threat that killed our friend Charlie Cook. So I go through this book and try to lay out a plan of what does it look like in the same way that the early church developed what is known as an apology. Not a, I'm telling, you know, not I'm saying I'm sorry, the way we think of the word apology today, but a defense of the faith that we have people like Jerome and Justin Martyr in church history that defended Christianity against a pagan Roman state. And Charlie did that so well.

And I hope to honor him with this book to really be able to help empower this generation to stand up the way that he did and to live their lives with that new apology as we are the Church of Tomorrow. And I just want to throw in here two things, because, because I'm Greek and because I run something called Socrates in the city, we've heard of Socrates Apology. The word apology, the Greek word apology is Apolloya. Loja are words. Apos is of, the preposition of.

So it's of words. In other words, a defense through words and argument and discussion and. and reasoning a defense in words. So an apology is really actually an explanation. So when you hear apologetics, it's about explanation with words giving a defense in words of the faith. And so that is what apologetics is. And that is when we talk about the apology of Socrates, he was giving a defense of his life. And as Christians, we need to understand what we believe is really, reasonable is rational is true. It's something we can talk about. I can't argue you into believing, but maybe it can help with words. And so apolloia as a card carrying member of the

tribe of Greeks, I can say it means it means with words of words. So always important because so many times people like, I don't get it. Why are we apologizing? We're not apologizing. We're explaining. And that's what an apology is. So keep going. So the book is pagan threat, confronting America's godless uprising. You were talking last time we were together about the Holy Spirit. And you and I understand this. We don't have a, some desiccated theology. We worship a living God who's alive, who wants to speak to us and communicate with us. And that can look like different things. But we need to be open to that, to the power of the Holy Spirit. Absolutely. I mean, look, ration and logic and reason. These are all great tools. But

we can't do anything really effectively without the Holy Spirit. And I think this is something that Charlie, you know, truly understood. I mean, he's the epitome of the, the logical thinker who can just rationally, you know, go through and just, you know, really just, I mean, nobody could prove him wrong. I mean, right? That's the whole, the whole nature of what he was going around. He was never actually. And by the way, by the way, that's why they said he was provocative.

You're provocative when people can't shut you up and when they can't win a debate. they say, well, he's a provocateur. Yeah, he's provocative because instead of saying, oh, yeah, you're right, maybe I need to change my thinking. You just get angry. And so that's why they- Counter to the truth, the truth is provocative to you, but it shouldn't be. When we hear the truth, it should be like, you know, if you're lost in a desert and you have no idea where you're going and somebody comes up to you, it says, hey, I'm here to help you this way to, you know, a nice oasis here where we can get you saved and refreshed and everything else, your response would not. be, you know, how dare you say that to me and start arguing with them? If you don't know where you're

going, you would gladly go. The only person who finds somebody guiding them to safety as provocative is the person who does not want to be found. And unfortunately, we have a lot of people who are living in rebellion who do not want to be found. And Charlie was an affront and an offense to them as a result of that. But it was not because of his message that he was shared. It was because the condition of their hearts? There are so many people, I think mainly of young men, but all kinds of people who the death of Charlie is really causing them to think in a way they've never thought before. And to be able to maybe as a plan for me.

What a beautiful thing that this young man, Charlie Kirk, was out there reasoning with people. And again, if you knew Charlie the way you did, the way I did, you knew what a dear soul he was. So to kind of portray him as some have who are ignorant and confused, oh, he was a provocateur, he was race baiting, he was homophiles. That is just, those are lies. And again, folks, there are a lot of people out there, they're diluted. I mean, when Stephen King writes that Charlie wanted a stone gaze, like, do you understand how insane that, that's so insane. Stephen King actually believed that. He actually believed that. Rosie O'Donnell actually, they actually believe this. Now, this is not a reason to hate

them, but it's a reason to pray for them because they really believe this. They're that lost. They don't understand what a kind soul Charlie was and how, you know, people have said vicious things about me. They're just, they're just not true. What are you going to do? People believe it. And they hate you based on something that's not true. So, but I think a lot of people, just because of the death of Charlie, they're being caused to say, like, maybe I miss something. So they're watching video. The timing of you're writing this book, of course, this is God's timing. It's called Pagan Threat, Confronting America's Godless Uprising. And that's what we're seeing right now, is we're seeing evil.

We've got less than a minute, just final thoughts on the book. You mentioned young men waking up, and that's something that Charlie was very, very passionate about. And I actually addressed this in the book. The challenges we're seeing young men become more conservative. When you look at their role models, it's people like Charlie Kirk, you know, Jordan Peterson, you know, it's the Joe Rogans of the world. There's a lot of younger, conservative guys that have, you know, a Christian worldview or at least starting to explore Christian ideas that they've been able to look to. But for women, it's much different. Younger

females have been really sucked into a pagan worldview. You start thinking about Beyonce and Taylor Swift and, you know, people like, you know, Sabrina Carpenter and all these different, you know, figures that are out there, Nikki Minaj. And a lot of these are people who have talked about their own, you know, experimentation with the occult and pagan practices. And so young women disproportionately are being affected by this pagan threat. I think where guys are becoming more conservative. Again, those are stereotypes that doesn't mean everybody. I'm hoping that even the events of this last week are going to wake a lot of people up.

But we have to understand the pagan threat that's out there. And if we can't understand why it's happening, we're not going to know what to do about it. We're at a time. Lucas Miles, thank you. The book is Pagan Threat. God bless you. My pillow is excited to understand. They're having their biggest three-in-one sale ever with a limited edition product, a back-in-stock special, and a close-out deal.

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Eric. Hey there, folks. Welcome back. I've been friends with Brad Stein for a long time. He is a comedian, an actual comedian, like a funny comedian, who's also a Christian, profound Christian. You can imagine why we would be friends, and I'm glad to have him back. Bradstein, my friend, my brother, welcome back. It's always good to you, Eric. I think you and I became friends in probably around 2004, almost 25 years ago. That's 21, but go ahead. Because mathematics was not my gift is what I was trying to say to you. And for all the mathematically challenged out there, I want to you let you know, you're

not alone and admitting it's the first step to recovery. So that's why I bring up the mathematical problems. Nevertheless, you and I met, I think, at the Connecticut men's gathering, Canaan. The New Canaan Society, yeah, it's about 2004. I remember it like it was 21 years ago. It's amazing. Yeah, to me it was 25, but I'm going by dog years. But here's the thing that's interesting, Eric.

You were interested in my work because I think you read the article about me, the New Yorker, about can you be funny and be a Christian conservative comic? And they've made an article about that for some reason. And you and I became fast friends. you had just written a book, I think, had to do with Amazing Grace maybe or something along that lines. I'm trying to remember the book you would do like that. I mean, people who know me who follow this program know that I care about the culture, I care about comedy, I care about entertainment and media. That's really my wheelhouse.

As much as I care about politics and I care about theology, the culture is at the heart of everything. And I have, since I came to faith a long time ago, have known that we have. a deep disconnect in the culture. The cultural elites are secular leftists, and most of the country is not. And so we have this strange thing where the cultural elites who kind of run the media, who are in leadership positions at ABC, NBC, New York Times, whatever, they don't speak our language. They don't get it.

And so when somebody like you, an actual comedian is actually funny, but is speaking to red state values, their heads explode. So to the point that the New Yorker decides that we need to write an article about this strange phenomenon of a funny conservative Christian, how can this be? It's very odd. So of course, I knew that we were, you know, two peas in a pod when I met you. And listen, people know that you and I, we want to talk about Charlie Kirk. We want to talk about what's going on in the country. We want to talk about where we are and where the church is. is. And so you and I talk about this privately, but I thought we should talk about it on the air. Well, you know, listen, Eric, and I think it's important to understand something. God gifts us for

certain times and seasons in existence of how the world works. It's his province. It's his sovereignty. But we are given gifts, teachers, pastors, prophets, you know, and so forth. And guys like you and I, and I'm just saying this only because it's true. It's not because there's some kind of special. anointing we've been given. There have been watchmen on the wall for a long time, sounding the alarm, something is wrong in the West, something is happening. Somebody is trying to destroy the greatest nation, the greatest ideas, the greatest philosophy, the greatest constitution, the greatest most egalitarian ideas in history to bring the most people, the most potential thriving, or what are the atheists like to call it, human flourishing. But

God does that through Christ. There's never been anything like it. Jesus is the game changer. He's the one of a kind, most famous, most influential human, God human in history. There's no other religion has them, no other philosophy has them. They all want a piece of him, but only we have him because he's true. And my career was destroyed when I said I'm a Christian conservative, as far as the mainstream. That was the end of my potential for the Tonight Show. That was the end of my potential for the sitcom. Netflix. wasn't coming to run, you know, knocked in my door. I didn't care.

Before we run on here, before we run past this, so folks, think about this, that, and this has been true in my life as well, I knew when I came out publicly as a Christian, and God forbid, as a conservative Christian, that immediately you're demonized by the people who run Hollywood or New York publishing or whatever. they look at you like some kind of a, you know, whatever term they use today, right? Fascist or something. They don't, they are, they're instantly hostile to you. And I remember this when I first went to Yale, I experienced it. I, you know, I go there as the son of European immigrants, working class, American values, and suddenly realize, oh, the way the elites think they are not down with patriotism. They think patriotism is jingoism, is chest beating nationalism, just like Hitler.

They think Christianity is theocracy like Sharia law. In other words, they don't understand it at all, but they've made these judgments. And your career is an example of that because I know how funny you are, how great you are, what you do. But the moment you're coming from that point of view, you're dismissed. So today, I mean, one of the reasons I want to talk to you as well is that when you have people like Jimmy Kimmel talking about censorship, free speech, ladies and gentlemen, do you understand what a joke this is? the only people being censored are conservative Christians. People who think like Charlie Kirk and Brad Stein and Eric Metaxus, there's no censorship of the left.

So the idea that Jimmy Kimmel is like weeping that he's been censored and he's right. It's so, it's funny, it's ironic, it's preposterous. And Brad and I have lived this. Yeah, well, you know, the thing that's been confounding to me, Eric, is a couple things. certainly with the you know as we tape this anyways because i'm sure it'll exist in history right that's one thing about filming things on the media is it's here forever so to water market you know was just about like a week ago that charlie kirk was assassinating marty for his faith and for his values and he but what was most sort of troubling to me amongst many was that it proved to point

all i've ever heard whenever something drastic took place in america that was sensitive a george Floyd, you know, things along that line. I would hear this every time from the left. We need a national conversation about race. We need a national conversation. And my point was always, we can't have a conversation with you people because you believe a conversation is, shut up, listen to us, and start obeying. And we said, if we bring up data, facts, truth, insight, wisdom, love, caring, compassion, I love everybody you love. My faith is the one that gave you even the ability to consider the poor as somebody worthy. My faith is one that gave you the ability to see that the man on the side of the road,

the Good Samaritan. That's our idea, Christ's idea. You hijacked it and tried to give you those virtues because you have none. That's why you call it virtue signaling. You have to create an illusion because you have no foundation. Christ is that foundation. So when I realized that trying to reason with people, trying to give them actual facts to see if we can find a consensus,

even if we can't, learning to agree to disagree agreeably as a civil civil society. It's off the tables. We're not going to kill you now. Now it's not hyperbole. It's not a bumper sticker. We're going to kill you now for that. So I had to decide, is this what I believe or not? Is not my belief? Not is Jesus my religion. Is it true? And the answer is yes. So yep, he's worth the church's... you know, a way of reckoning.

I don't want to be one. I want to read about it just like you do. I don't want to turn, but if that's what it takes, then so be it. And as a comic, I just happen to do it with a very different flavor. Humor is the delivery system to bring truth to the church. And the church is, Eric, and this is really weird. I'm sure you've seen this, because I've watched your career. I've watched you agonize over writing books like Bonhock. offer things along that line because it was so different.

Next thing, you know, Eric, my taxes is getting asked to speak at the biggest events in the country. They're catching up to what you and I have been talking about for 20 years. We were the watchmen on the wall. We saw something and said, anybody interested? I'm having GOP people contacted me to do fundraisers. Like, I'm not even a Republican. I'm an independent.

The Republicans, you know, I consider as just corrupt as the Democrats. I disavow the political system. I know it's God's hierarchy, but I'm a Christ follower. That's what drives everything I do. But I have in churches call me, Eric, finally saying, come here, tell us what you're doing. We love your comedy, but you got more to teach. That's why God said I trained you in nightclubs. I want an unorthodox way to tell my story in America because it's going to change. And so I think my prophetic voice to the church through comedy is simply a long lineage. of truth tellers that come in different packages in the season that God needs to get his word out.

And that's kind of where I am as we speak. Well, I mean, I want everybody on my program who listens to this program to know you, to get to know you. I mean, you've been on over the years, but not enough because you're one of the very few voices out there, almost the only voice of a real comedian who's coming from the same worldview that I'm coming from. and a lot of listeners coming to, and churches should be, you know, scrambling over each other to get to you. And they, honestly, folks,

well, we'll have plenty more. Bradstein. It's S-T-I-N-E, Bradstein.com. Bradstein.com will be right back. Tell me all you have to say. Welcome back. I'm talking to my friend Brad Stein, S-T-I-N-E. You should look.

him up. Trust me, folks. Look him up. Brad Stein. Bradstein. Brad, you and I, again, our hearts beat as one because we have seen what we're talking about for a long time. And we're seeing, you know, what the secular folks call the vibe shift. It's really a spiritual shift. It's a shift in the heavenlies. It's the result of prayer. People have prayed and prayed and prayed. And we're seeing things. I mean, we saw Trump at the UN call out the globalists at the UN to their faces. We're seeing things most of us could never dream would happen. We're seeing people understand what's what, but we never thought we'd see it. I mean, to see Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, give a full-throated presentation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This is the Secretary of State,

folks, the Secretary of State. To have the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth do the same thing, to have the head of the FDA, to have the head of HHS, rather, over and over and over, we heard full-throated presentations of faith in God. And I thought, this is so beautiful. This is a moment many of us have dreamt of and prayed for, and we're seeing it happen. And so I say this, Brad, because you and I have longed in our hearts to see this break into the world of entertainment and media,

that there would be TV programs. I've talked about wanting to do a late-night show. You and I have talked about this kind of stuff for years. I see it happening. By God's grace, it is happening. What happened with Jimmy Kimmel is just so, it's just so indicative of how dramatically out of touch the Hollywood leftists are.

They're just tremendously out of touch with mainstream America, and it's catching up with them. The market is not catching up. Not only out of touch, Eric, but untouched by what used to be discourse or at least an expectation of law. I got to be honest with you, brother. I don't know why Christians don't be more tactical and more prepared for things like slander and libel.

See, that's what I don't understand. Like what? This wasn't like slander and libel laws, right? They've already existed. So when you come up to, so if you come up to me and I don't understand the law, specifically. I know it's very specific. It should be. You can't just be suing people every time you don't like what you hear. But if you lie about me to discourage my character, to harm my ability to get work or to have access to the community without being in fear for my reputation of my life,

there's laws against that. If it's a lie, not because you don't like me, if you say I'm a Nazi, if you say I'm a fascist, because that gives you permission to harm me. Because that's why I'm telling you, that's why God used me as a comic. He said, your rhetorician, your skill set is words. I'm very aware, very sensitive to how words are used and abused. I never believed in the term hate speech, for example. I don't believe in that. Now, what I do believe is there's speech you hate.

That I believe in. But that speech you hate has to flourish so that we have a free society. The barometer of how free society is is your speech. What can I cannot say? Now, here's what happens. the market weed you out. If you start going around saying, let's get rid of the Jews or let's get rid of the blacks

or let's get rid of the Democrat, whatever you say, the market will weed you out. We ain't watching you. We're not reading your book. We're not listening to you. But you still need the freedom. And as a comic, I want no taboos, no guardrails to speak

because I'm doing it in a private function where you can choose to come or coming. And not because I'm going to disparage people. I'm not. I'm forbidden to hate people. I'm commanded to hate ideas that are not gods. I'm not going to curse. That's just my own nomenclature because of my faith.

It drives everything I am. I still don't want to silence a guy that uses the F word or does this or that because that's what freedom is. And more importantly, what is a better society? What is a mature society? What is this more foundationally virtuous society? One that forbid you to say things that offend you or teaching you how to hear offensive things and walk through that without being deterred or even accepting the premise. If I call you a bigot or whatever and you're not, then why would you care?

So it's this abusive language. It's controlling the words, which controls the culture. If I control the words, I control how you can think, how you can behave, how you can inculcate into culture and be part of this society. I can remove that simply by not allowing your thoughts, your conscience, to be distributed amongst the rest of the citizenry. That's why the First Amendment and the religious liberty, Congress shall make no law restricting the established religion

or forbidding the free exercise. Why that's the most important one? Because that's a conscience law. That means an atheist, a Jew, a Muslim, a polytheist, whatever, all have access to your conscience as sacrosanx and can't be touched because God gave you access to that. As a matter of fact, it's so, and crucial and sacred to God,

he will allow you to choose not to believe in him and to walk into hell than to restrict your free agency to speak and think as you choose. If God gives us that, certainly we can do it in society. So listen, I'm never funny on an interview. Everybody's thinking,

here comes the comic, we're going to have the funny interview. I was just going to say, hey, Brad, there's nothing funny about any of this. If I'm like some big church looking for a comedian, and I'm thinking, not that guy. That guy is so serious and intellectual. And holy cow, can we get somebody, you know, who does Pratt Falls? Like, is there a Christian Gallagher who smashes Christian watermelons?

Can we get that guy? Somebody like that. Somebody like that. Brad is just so serious. It's frightening. It's frightening. But it's because I hope, and I know you're joking with me. And people can go online to bradzine.com or YouTube, and you'll see a million of what I do.

There's a comic. Everybody knows. I'm joking. No, no, I know. I know. Is that you're so, you are so funny. Hold on. We're going to go to a break, but we've got plenty more folks.

Trust me on this. I'm not getting paid to say this. Bradstein.com. S-T-I-N-E, Bradstein. com. Boy, do we need more Bradstein. We'll be right back. Folks, welcome back.

I'm talking to my friend, the comedian, Brad Stein, S-I-N-E, Brad Stein. I'm trying. I can't find anything funny. Brad, listen, no, we don't have to be funny here. This is a, this is, we're very serious. I want to say that you and I've talked about this stuff for years, right? How the media landscape, I, 30 years ago, I just had a sense that, you know, my, my calling, part of my calling is to do interviews to do something. I kind of like late night TV always appealed to me, Johnny Carson, Letterman, that kind of thing.

Dick Cavett, who's a friend, you know, I appreciate that. And I said, all of. those programs, all of them, are monolithically secular leftist, which is fascinating. In other words, if you have a free market, theoretically, you know, maybe half of them would be secular leftist and another half would be kind of red state, believe in God. But most of Hollywood, most of the mainstream media is secular, is either hostile or confused by people of faith and the values of people of faith. And I thought, wouldn't it be amazing if we could get like a late night show or a weekend variety show that's coming from the point of view of half of the country or

sometimes like most of the country, right? And to this day, we still have just the lunacy of Jimmy Kimmel, Colbert. Now, Fallon comes closest. He's the least offensive, but he's still not having you on or me on. I mean, he's not going to go there. It was like a big thing when he had on Greg Gutfeld. You know, and Greg Gutfeld's not any kind of professing Christian, but he's hilarious, he's conservative. But it was like, even that was a big deal. And I thought, if we had the free market operating when it comes to entertainment, your average American who loves the country, voted for Trump or whatever, they would be able to turn on TV and have a late night show that sort of speaks to them, right?

And that doesn't exist. I guess some people think that that's what Gutfeld is, but Gutfeld is not, he doesn't interview people. That's, it's still kind of a Fox show. He doesn't have people on to talk about, hey, here's your movie or your book or whatever. It's pretty rare. And I keep talking about this because I really believe that it's part of God's

calling on my life to host a show like that. And I've done various iterations of that. We filmed some pilots and things. But it's just fascinating to me that here we are in 2025, with everything that's going on in the world. And we seem finally to be getting there, to be talking about this. And with a president who's willing to throw his weight around

and say whatever he thinks is true, including at places like the UN or when he's meeting with the G8 or with the NATO leaders, he's just willing to say this stuff. So we're seeing a kind of a breakthrough. And the ultimate example of this is what happened at Charlie Kirk's Memorial the other day in Phoenix, where I was there,

where you have tons of government figures robustly expressing their Christian faith, their love of country. We are seeing something in this nation right now that most of us, I don't know if we ever believed we ever would see it, but we're finally seeing this dramatic spiritual shift. Well, I would say this, and I said it from the get-go. When Trump was elected the first term, there was lots of memes or whatever you call it on social about leftist tears. all the people breaking down because he won and beat Hillary.

And we're laughing and joking and poking. And then, of course, his election is stolen in 2020, which was a huge tactical error on the left because it gave him four years to see what was up, see how to prepare for what was really at stake, the deep state, and what really is out there that is controlling things that you and I had no privy to because we're just a couple of slugs trying to, you know, serve God in our little way. and he gets reelected. And I said, and I would refuse to watch any of the leftist tears nonsense.

I said, look, Trump's election in 20, whatever it was, 24, is not something to celebrate. It is a reprieve. I believe from what I have learned in my life in the churches for so many years, including when it was corona, and I went out to all the churches, and I said, I ain't wearing masks. I'm not doing vaccination. I'm going to accept this room we're in called sanctuary for what it's called, and it's the most important place that needs to be done. And if you're a pastor shutting down your church because the secular government said you do,

that tells you who you are. You either got to take this thing seriously or not. You need to not just open your door. You need to rip them off the hinges. And so when Trump was reinstated into the public sphere now, as our president. To me, that was a call of the church. That was a call to every pastor saying, here's your shot, God says. I'm watching. Are you going to stand from that pulp and say, here's what it means to be moral. Here's what it means to be married. Here's what it means

about the gender and how you receive yourself. Here's how you identify as a child of God and nothing else. Here's what it means to not allow children to be mutilated for the cult of this transgender. When are you going to decide to speak my truth boldly from the pulpit, whatever may come? The myopic, shallow American Christianity, the least robust Christianity on earth is in America because we never had anything at stake. Where it's at stake now, and the vision God gave me, the moment he was killed, and it happened throughout the world, all of the watchers like you and I on the wall, and there's many more, It's not just us.

We knew something had happened, and it was bigger than we could have imagined. And what I saw was we had gone out into the field. We were trimming our wicks. We were filling our lamps. We were watching and praying and seeing what was at stake. But we were in the battlefield while aggregating this material that we're going to need for the second coming. And then God said this word to me, Eric, and I know you'll get it. Aslon is on the move.

and that's it's like what is this and it's like something has happened that is unprecedented and if the church doesn't wake up now in america i i don't know god will probably just cast us aside and go find a church like china or afghanistan or who knows where north korea who know now but he'll go find where the true warriors are and that's by the way if there are people listening and they heard you say trim trim your wick fill your lamp folks if you didn't get that reference, you need to crack the New Testament and read the New Testament. If you're so biblically ignorant that you didn't get that, you're in trouble. You're part of the problem. Open up the Bible. Just read the New Testament. Start where it's easy. Read the New Testament. Kind of important.

If you didn't get the phrase, Aslan is on the move, read the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis. Very important. Seminole book for adults. Forget about the kids. Seminole book, Lying the Witch in the wardrobe. And if you're going to a church that has not screened the film that we made with Charlie letter to the American church, ladies and gentlemen, letter to the American church.com. If you're going to a church that is not on board with what we're talking about, you've become part of the problem. That's the bad news. The good news is you can repent. We'll be right back. Yeah, that's right. Welcome back talking to Brad Stein. In case you missed it, folks, part of the reason I wanted Brad on here

is because I think there's so many Christians and churches in America that aren't even aware that there's a brilliant comedian named Brad Stein, not this one, the other guy, Bradstein.com. And I think there's so many churches that they're just not aware of you. And I tell you folks,

Brett, you know, you don't want to base it on this conversation because we're being like really serious. But it's important that you get this, that you get Brad's perspective. I also want to say, I mentioned it, Charlie Kirk partnered with us in producing a letter to the American church. I wrote the book Letter to the American Church because of this issue, because of all that we're talking about right now. And I said, we've got to get this into the churches. Charlie said to me, emphatically, I want to get this out into every church. He was emphatic. That's why he partnered with us. So he's in the film very prominently, but he also partnered

with us, TPSA, partner with us in producing the film. I say this because to this day, there are plenty churches, and many people listening to this program attend these churches that refused to screen the film. We offered it for free, folks. This is not about the money. This is about getting the message out. Or they gave my book to their pastor and the pastor said, I don't want to even want to read the book.

Folks, if you're going to a church that does not want to screen letter to the American church for free, you need to pray and ask God to lead you to the church that he, where he wants you to go to, because the hour is late. Brad and I have been talking about this, that the weak American church that refuses to celebrate how it's a biblical view of government that gave us the United States of America, that abolished slavery in America, that did all kinds of good things, that gives us the values that we have that comes out of the Bible. If you're going to a church that pretends, well, we don't, we don't want to make those connections. We just want to preach our little gospel, whatever pseudo-gospital you're preaching. You're in rebellion against God's will. I say that

bluntly in love, because I want everyone at this hour after the murder of my friend Charlie Kirk to say, now do you get it? Are you going to wake up now? What's it going to take? I don't really think God's going to give us another chance. I think he has given up by by sparing the life of Donald Trump, by having Trump reelected. He's saying to the church, this is it. This is it. This is. is it. Now is your hour. And if you're supporting a church that is not on board with this, for the sake of your soul, get out of that church. Find a place where they're willing to talk about what we're talking about here. Well, and I don't think we should miss the fact that when they tried to kill Trump, it clipped his ear. So ridiculous. Almost like God's saying,

are you listening? There's something really at stake. And I will not continue. He's long suffering, but there comes a point where you have to suffer for not listening. You know, I was called to the church in America for Cs Suss to be a voice, a prophetic voice. And yeah, I do it through comedy, but then through Christian worldview. I want the Christians that are watching this show, and I hope millions are, to understand this simple premise. You were never called to be a Christian. You were called to be a disciple. Christian is easy. Jesus' does all the work. He lives perfectly. He suffers for things that you should have suffered work. He goes to his death when it should have been you. He resurrects when we couldn't,

and he hands us the keys to the kingdom because he loves us that much. That's all Jesus, and I accepted. That was easy. But then he says count the cost, because if you're going to take my sacrifice, you have to become a disciplined Christian. That means disciple, and it's going to be the hardest stinking thing you've ever done in your life. But I want to say, since we're out of time, On the other hand, folks, it is the very reason you're created. It's, you are, this is not like, oh, this is extra credit. This is the exact reason you're alive. It's the exact reason Jesus did what he did for you.

So you can live your best life by giving everything you have to him. Now is the time. I keep saying it, the hour is late. Brad Stein, thank you, my friend. Folks, go to Bradstein, S-T-I-N-E, Bradstein.com. Go to letter to the American Church.com. We've all got work to do. Brad, God bless you.

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