The Eric Metaxas Show - CRT Panel (continued) and Neal Harmon

Episode Date: July 8, 2021

The panel discussion concerning Biblical Justice vs. Social Justice wraps up; then, Neal Harmon, creator of Video Angel, talks about its creation and the many note-worthy projects that got their start through his enterprise.

Texas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. We're going to play for you a really fascinating conversation that I had about a week ago at the N.R.B. in Dallas, it was about critical race theory and social justice and biblical justice, and it was extremely informative. A lot of people praised it, and I said, we've got to put it on the program. So it's a panel I did with Vody Balcombe Jr. and Charlie Kirk and the moderator's Owen strong. Here it is. I see what the pastors of tomorrow are being taught. So I'm trying to radically and sometimes provocatively tell the body of Christ we have to rethink the way that we pass down our values to the next generation. You don't need a certificate to succeed in America. You don't need to

say that you went to some college to be a good person. I care about whether you're saved, whether you have character, and whether you want to do something to your life, not if you went to Harvard and if you want to do something like that. Yeah, what was the question Owen? America is a white supremacist order. Our youth are being told. So how do we counter that idea? Well, it's kind of funny because there are many ways to counter it. The first thing you have to do is you have to loudly and forcefully say, that's a lie.

I think that oftentimes we rely too much on reason, and sometimes you just have to kind of push people back and say, that is a lie, and put the onus on them. You could say that's a lie, that's a pernicious lie, that's a satanic lie, that is evil. Don't say that again. Explain to me how that is true and explain to me where you get the right, even to say such a foul, untrue thing. There are many reasons for this, but I didn't really understand this fully until I wrote a book called If You Can Keep at the Forgotten Promise of American Liberty. And in it, I was forced myself to really see what I had kind of been missing over the decades.

And so, you know, I got the best miseducation you could get. I went to Yale University, which is exactly where you would go to learn how the global anti-American elites think. So I learned to speak that language. I got those ideas in. then I became a Christian, but it still took me a long time to get comfortable with what I now know to be true, and to understand how dramatically over at least 50 years. I mean, the 60s was the watershed moment when all of these evil ideas kind of bubbled into the public realm. And of course, they've been bubbling.

And, you know, this is trickle-down evil, right? This is cultural trickle-down theory, where you see these ideas, you know, they're brought in by Marcuse. and Gramsci, and there's certain people talking about them in faculty lounges and stuff and deri-da, right? And then they trickle down, trickle down, trickle down. So when I bumped in all this stuff in the 80s at Yale, this was not yet out in the public. But I've watched it come out into the public so that now people are even using terms. I mean, one thing for me that I noticed is when people use terms like hegemony or intersectionality or any of that. I just feel like saying, hey, shut up, like speak English.

Because all those words are sophistry. They're designed to skew your thinking a little bit, to knock you off balance. So, like, now I've got to talk about critical race theory or systematic. And it'd be like, those are called weasel words. You know what weasel words are, right? They're empty words. A weasel, you know, theoretically they would suck the interior of an egg out, right? So a weasel word is like an egg that's hollow.

And weasel words are like that. And the left does that. They come up with these terms. So anytime anybody talks about privilege, it's like that's not a thing. Shut up, go back, find like the real word and let's talk about it. But these are invented ideas. And so that's kind of, you know, that's part of what has happened. But I bumped into this stuff first.

And it took me decades really to perceive that we have been pushing these ideas out, out, out, out. So for me, Charlie said it's the parents to blame. I agree. It is always the leaders. If you look at what happened in 1968, when the students, took over the universities, okay? It is just like today, if a city burns down, that's not, to me, that's not on the people doing the burning. That's not on the people doing the burning. That's on the people who are supposed to stop them, not stopping them. It's very

simple. If you do not have the guts, if you do not have the ability to say that is wrong, and we will crush you if you try to disrupt private property, you try to do anything like that. But the leaders have imbibed these false views, going back to the 60s where people said, I don't trust anybody over 30. It's a Russoian idea. It's a utopian scheme that says the youth are pure. The Bible says the youth are hellbound sinners. Those things can't coexist.

But in the 60s, you have a situation where these leaders of Columbia, universities, different places, did not have the ability to stand up to the students and let these arrogant thugs. You know, these are cultural Marxists. These are cultural revolutionaries under Mao. We've seen them through history. They're the same ones that created the bloodbath of the French Revolution. It's always these shock troops. And then there are people who say, like, oh, they've got the truth.

And let's let them have their say. You cannot let the devil have his say. You cannot let the devil have a millimeter. If you do, you're a fool. And the fact of the matter is, we have allowed. this to happen and these anti-American ideas to come in and is why today we have an entire population

that is not conversant in the basics of what is self-government and liberty and why is it beautiful and good and doesn't need to be perfect it's just way better than anything else so I try to answer the question and I failed thank you

no you did well thank you we're concluding here in just a moment but we need to say a couple things we need to say that Uncle Tom Two. The documentary is coming out this fall on Salem Now. It's featuring Vody, so extensively. I think you had like a crew filming you and all that sort of thing, right? That must have been cool. Okay. So you want to check for Uncle Tom 2. Uncle Tom 1 has had a major effect, and Uncle Tom 2 will as well. Excellent work by Salem. And then we want to say a quick thank you to Tim Peterson, who's the president of

Salem Books. If we could have a hand for Tim Peterson. He has acquired a number of us up here and is really leading the counter-revolution in a lot of ways, because books do that in a free society. So we're very thankful, many of us for Tim. And I want to just conclude here. We have literally one minute, but I want each of you to give us 15 seconds on the antidote for what ails us. And we'll start with Eric and finish with Voddy. Speaking of sale in books, I have a book coming out in October called Is Atheism Dead?

And I've never been as excited about a book. And it is the answer to this question because the cover of the book essentially is a snake, you know, eating itself, biting its own tail, right? That's what false ideology is. If you push it to its logical conclusion, it swallows itself, disappears with a pop, and you'll never see it again. And it is our job to point that out. These things cannot sustain themselves. God is truth. And we just need to, in every way we can, with moral fiber and courage, continue to live out the truth and speak the truth and trust the Lord and be led by the Holy Spirit because there are 100 answers to this.

But I know that you cannot go wrong speaking the truth and trusting the Lord to use you. as you do and having the confidence that you cannot fail. He defeated death on the cross. There is nothing to fear, but displeasing the Lord. Amen. Ten seconds each. Yeah. It's going to cost you something.

You're going to have to give something up. Social status, a country club membership, some of your Facebook friends, you're going to be called bad names. If you're not in the fight, here's the way to tell that if you're living a comfortable life and everyone loves you. Amen. People are looking for things like justice, mercy, and reconciliation. The good news is we know the only place they can find that.

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You are on a tour. Obviously, you're on a tour. This is amazing. What is the name of the tour again? Uncensored truth. Uncensored truth. And we're living in strange times that that's not redundant. We actually have to go out of our way to say uncensored truth. You and I met, strangely, a few weeks ago in California. You happen to be driving by my hotel. It was kind of an amazing serendipitous would be the secular way of perceiving what happened. You are Jewish. You're not a Christian as far as I know. But we agree pretty dramatically on what I want to talk to you about today. So let's talk about that. You're a lawyer and you're a doctor, a medical doctor.

So what is your life about for the last year, the last six months? What are you talking about on this tour? Right. I started seeing that there's so much disinformation, censorship, and lies that were being told to the American people, that it was really threatening people's health and it was threatening the liberty of our nation. And I think where you and I agree, and a lot of us agree, is for me, this is a God versus no God kind of battle that we're in. And it's difficult for human beings to fight successfully if they're consumed 24-7 with lies and disinformation. So I see my role in this fight as bringing the truth, the scientific truth, and the legal truth to light. I just find it funny, Simone, that, you know, the other day, I've had Naomi Wolf on the program a couple of times. She's Jewish, liberal, feminist, but she's exactly where we are on these things. You're Jewish. I just find it amazing that the culture at large tries to say that it's white evangelicals that have problems with the vaccine. And I would even say, I don't really have a problem with the vaccine.

I mean, I have a problem with the idea that people are telling me I can't talk about it. I can't refuse to get it. I shouldn't refuse to get it. It's weird in America. And this is why I love you so much. Your voice is so powerful and important. People in America need to understand this is not okay. People cannot tell you things and they certainly can tell you not to question things,

especially when it concerns your own body. So when did you wake up to this? The problem with the experimental COVID shots is not a very important. vaccine or non-vaccine issue. All of my career, I've been vaccinated. My children have been vaccinated. This is not a vaccine issue. This is an issue of medical tyranny being imposed in such a way that it's harming individuals. It's also harming the nation because it's done away with like the right of fourth amendment, which is bodily integrity. People giving away that right because there have been such disinformation. There's essentially no free speech around the issue. That's the fight that we're in. It's not a

vaccine fight. From a medical perspective, of course you cannot rush out experimental shots to hundreds of millions of people and expect everything to go well. They're trying to rush these shots out to children. We've never rushed out experimental shots to children. It's ludicrous. I mean, it seems ludicrous when you hear the facts. But the problem and the reason you're having to go on an uncensored truth tour is that suddenly we're being told, no, no, no, things are different now. You can't talk about that. There's something, I mean, it's like the Nazis are trying to bomb us and we're saying, we don't want to put blackout curtains on our windows. want our light to shine. That would be an appropriate time for the government to say, sorry,

but we don't want the Nazis to bomb our cities. You're going to have to comply. And in that case, most Americans would say, you know what? Yes, you have to comply with what the government's telling you. This is not that kind of a case, but they've tried to inflate it into that kind of a life or death issue. So how do you, from a doctor's perspective, see it? Actually, that's an excellent analogy and the medical answer to your analogy is that the CDC has already sent data that this is a non-lethal trivial virus. Specifically, unless you're at or near or exceeded your life expectancy, this is non-leaf per the CDC if you're young, healthy or middle age, reasonably healthy, and even older and healthy, your chance of surviving SARS-Code 2 is almost 100%. Literally, per the CDC,

they released numbers May 5th. Again, it shows 99.5%. survivability between age 15 and 70, and over age 70, it's almost 95%. And with early treatment, it's almost 100%. All the people that have died from COVID-19 are at or exceeded life expectancy with rare exception. That's why urinalogy is so apropos. This is, there is no public health emergency that would require human beings to submit to experimental medications. And also the politicization of this issue. I mean, the idea that President Trump mentions hydrocarbon, hydroxychloroquine and suddenly the cognoscenti lose their minds and decide they must be against it. It's almost like he said, I take aspirin and they just said aspirin is evil.

No one can take aspirin. I mean, explain what happened with hydroxychloroquine. Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, the moment he mentioned it, then the media came out against it. And that's, by the way, how I knew that the media and doctors and often pharmacists had already drunk the Kool-Aid because there was no argument to be made. It's been FDA proof for 65 years. we give it to babies, infants, pregnant women, nursing mothers, the elderly and the immune compromised. Those two groups take it for decades and decades without incident. It's one of the

safest drugs on the planet. It's safer than Tylenol. Tylenol is actually the number one reason we have liver transplants in this nation. So there's no comparison. Hydroxic quarkin is very, very safe. So never believe that the reason the hatred towards hydroxychloroquine exists is because the only way to roll out in experimental vaccines so rapidly is that there was no other approved treatment. So unless they put the kibosh on hydroxychloricloric, ivermectin Budescined, they couldn't roll out experimental shots to all of humanity. So that's a crime. Okay.

So people need to understand that there's an arbitrary medical rule that says you want to rush out an experimental vaccine. Okay. If you do that, the only way we will give you permission to do that is if there is no treatment. And they said, okay, we'll go along with that. So even the things that are treatments, we'll say that they're not treatments. and if we say that hydroxychloroquine and whatever it is, Ivermectin or whatever, these other things,

if we say that those things can't be used and they are not treatments, you'll let us rush out this vaccine. So that's literally what happened. Yes, that's exactly what happened. I want to emphasize that this is not a political situation. This was the only political aspect to it was, I believe, that Trump got in the way of this plan. The way you know this isn't actually political is Trump keeps saying things like, you know, to get the vaccine. He's very proud of the Operation Warp's Speed effect. But most of the people that formally voted for Trump, right?

They're not behind that ban, right? And they do think themselves. And they're saying you are doing experimental shot for which there's a pirate. You were breaking up there. I just want to say that I think, you know, if anybody can speak ill of Trump, I would say that he was so excited about his ability to get this done when nobody said it could get done that they. that he just went crazy in a good way as he does to solve a problem. But then what he lost sight of and he allowed the media to get this narrative out there is the idea that the reason we're going crazy to get this experimental thing out there

is in case people are dying and there's no help. We can give them this experimental thing to save their lives. That was the idea. It wasn't to give it to everybody. You don't give experimental cancer treatments to people who aren't dying of cancer. Right. So from a political perspective, this business and scientific accomplishment with Operation Warp Speed was certainly an accomplishment. However, I believe it's been hijacked in service of tyrannical rules to take down our nation, quite frankly. We got rid of the First Amendment. You can't talk about it. And the Fourth Amendment bodily integrity. I believe Operation Warp Speed was hijacked. You believe Operation Warp Speed was hijacked by whom? Was hijacked by people with an intention to take down the Constitution.

Operation War Paveers a scientific and political accomplishment. It was really quite amazing that he could put all this together, right, and get all these pieces in place to roll out anything really in a few months. I mean, that's really amazing. On the other hand, I don't believe the President ever intended that Americans should be forced to take an experimental vaccine. Every day we're reading articles about governors offering free college, free money, lottery, ice cream, New York City, they're going to vaccinate in public schools.

They've even passed laws in local municipalities saying that children 12 and over, can consent without their parents' knowledge. Okay, that is flat out unconstitutional. That makes me want to get my gun, and I don't even own a gun. But let me tell you, the idea that they would say that, that 12-year-olds can do that, that violates everything, every law. I don't understand. How can they possibly say that?

If you're growing up in the USSR, or you're growing up in China, you understand that the children belong to the government. That's the movement that's going on right now. I'm wake up America. They're trying to take over, and you can see it clear as, day, San Francisco pastor rule within one week of it being rolled out to children that you could give these shots to children without their parents' knowledge. It's unbelievable. This is happening in multiple municipalities, not just San Francisco. Boston is another one. Can I grab children

off the street and have them baptized at my church without their parents' knowledge? Could I do that? Right. Exactly. You can't put water out of a child. It's a free country. I could do whatever I want. This is so crazy. The sound quality is not great, Dr. Simone Gold. So we're going to let it go with that. We want to get you back because it is wonderful to talk to you. We love you and what you're doing. God bless you to be continued. Folks, I'm at the NRP. It's here from Taxi Show. I'm talking to Neil Harmon. He's the CEO of Angel Studios. Neil, I understand that you hate Hollywood. We have that in common. What is Angel Studios? So Angel Studios allows creators and to answer to their community rather than Hollywood.

It sounds like a bullet point, like a slogan. What do you mean by that? That means, have you ever heard of The Chosen? The Chosen TV series? Yes. Starring Jesus? Yes. I've never heard of it.

So The Chosen was funded by 19,000 people. Season 1 was funded by the audience, by their community. And then Angel Studios provided a distribution platform to take that to the world. Gee, I wonder if we could do this, Chris. Chris Himes is here, my producer. What a great idea. When I heard about this, you know, I'm not up on everything. I understand crowdfunding and stuff.

But the idea that you were able to film, sorry, to fund something, which everyone I talk to says is fantastic. The Chosen, you can find it online. There's an app. but it's really super high quality. And you have funded it that way. And so you're doing other things that way, or is this the main thing you're doing right now? So, no, before the chosen, our first project was called Dry Bar Comedy, which gets over a billion views a year.

Dry Bar comedy? Yep. What does that mean? It's just stand-up comedy that's funny for everybody. It's family safe, brand safe. How can you be funny without the F-bombs? Really? Today?

In this day and age? No. Oh, come on. But so it's called Dry Bar Comedy. How do I find that? Just Drybarcom. Drybarcom. Yep.

So you funded that, and what part of that needs to be funded? I mean, you need a brick wall and a microphone, so what are you doing? The distribution is funded? So we shot over 300 stand-up comedians from all over North America, and then we built out a distribution mechanism for it. Other projects that we've done recently are a Freedom Series, an animated series. about freedom. It's called the Tuttle Twins.

It's like a mixture between The Simpsons and the Magic School Bus. It's educational and it's super funny. The Simpsons and the Magic School Bus. My head's exploding. So, and it's called the Tuttle Twins. Okay, so, and you're working on other projects. What's in the pipeline, as we say in showbiz? We just, so Andrew Peterson wrote the series, The Wing Feather Saga.

The Wing Feather Saga. Yes. That sounds iffy. What is that about? It is. It sounds like some kind of a fantasy trilogy. It is. I'm out.

I'm out. They all have predictable. There's the Wing Feather saga. Does it have kind of like Tolkien writing on it and stuff? Yeah, I hate that stuff. Go ahead. There's four books. So you can be in on this one.

There's not three. Okay. If I can be in on it, then I like it. Okay. So, but you do you have other stuff? I mean, I mean, this is a lot already that you're talking about. Yeah, so that wing feather just closed a $5 million round to make their first season. Tuttle twins the same.

We did a round for freelancers, the shift. But we plan to do 300 projects over the next five years that are driven by the crowd in the community rather than by the Hollywood system. And why five years? Because you just have like, you figured out that Jesus is descending on a golden cloud and it's game over at that point? What is this about? No, no. that's uh it's we we just see that gap in the market there's a lot of there's a lot of darkness and cynicism in the market and we're not saying there's anything wrong with that uh it's kind of

funny because people are so hungry for this so now if people go to is there a website for angel studios angel dot com angel dot com how did you get that uh it cost us two million bucks two million bucks to get angel dot com that's uh i think that's worth it that That's pretty amazing. That's five letters, a recognizable word.com. That's pretty good. Thanks. Two million bucks, though.

I don't know. Neil Harmon, how did you become the head of Angel Studios? What were you doing before this season in your life? So we, my brother and I co-founded, or my brothers and I co-founded an ad agency. It's called Harmon Brothers. It's called what? Harmon Brothers. Harmon Brothers.

Yeah. We made ads for Squatty Potty, the Purple Mattress, Poopery, chat books. You've seen some of these ads. Any non-fecal products? I gave you two. I must not have been listening. So most of your products were not fecal-oriented. And you know what?

That's a plus. That's a plus. Because more than 50% fecal-oriented products, that could brand you the wrong way. Yeah. But, okay. So, and you said, enough of this crap, we're going to be TV. So let me ask you, you were in Addo. Where did you grow up?

What part of the country did you grow up in? I'm a farm boy from Idaho. Farm boy from Idaho. Okay. And did you ever think you'd be doing something like this? Absolutely not. Where do you live now? So I live now about an hour south of Salt Lake City.

An hour south of Salt Lake City. And so, yeah, you're not exactly in Hollywood. No. And that's a positive thing. You're in touch with the heartland. Yep. Well, okay, so angel.com, can all the things you've mentioned, can we find them there? Yes, you can.

Or you can go look up the Chosen app or the Dry Bar Comedy app. I'm excited about the Dry Bar Comedy thing. That's so great. How long has that been going? It's been going since 2017. And that's just online. online, obviously. Yeah, well, it's available.

I mean, you can search for it on Roku. It's on SiriusXM Radio. It's on iTunes. It's everywhere. Isn't it fascinating how the market has just fractured and we have no idea where it's going to go, but it's so dramatically different than where we were. I think we're going to go to a break. Folks, I'm talking to Neil Harmon, CEO of Angel Studios.

You can go to angel.com. Seriously, angel.com. This is the Erk Metaxus show. Remember to go to Neutrametics. and to use the code Eric and they've just got all your non-drug needs. But in pill form, we'll be back. I'm talking to Neil Harmon, the CEO of Angel Studios. This is exciting and encouraging Neil to think that you are producing great content

and you've figured out how to fund it to go directly to the people. And now how does that work? Okay, let's say I want to do a show. There's crowdsourcing available, but I mean, how do you do that? You said, you know, you've just completed a round to raise $5 million for the, what is it, the feather wing feather saga. And so how do you do that? What do you offer? I'm just curious how this works.

You go to angel.com and there's a button there that says apply to fund my project. You need to have a short film or a pilot. And, oh, you mean people can go to angel.com to get their stuff funded? In other words, you are going to be like a studio that says if you want to be part of this and you've got something significant. Obviously, you guys have to vet that. You're not letting anybody come in with junk to fund it. Yeah, so it's all crowd powered. So the crowd determines what gets published.

The crowd determines. So you will let somebody come in with junk and then you'll let the market determine that. No, no, no, no. It's not going to be junk because the crowd. No, but that's what I'm saying. If somebody comes in with a lousy pilot, you're letting the market, which is to say the people who come to angel.com,

by not funding it, they're telling you we don't like it. That's right, right. That's interesting, using the free market to your advantage. Yeah. I like that idea. And so how many people come traditionally to you? I mean, it seems like, you know, people listening to this program are suddenly going to say, hey,

I got a short film in my dress or drawer. Let me pull that out and put it up there and see what happens. So we get requests daily, and we have a process for people to apply and to be able to have the chance to be funded. But, I mean, it's really exciting that you're doing it that way. You're not just doing it for the projects that you have initiated, but you're letting other folks come in. Well, we think that the,

audience, the community is going to know better than a few executives in Hollywood as to what's going to succeed. Well, we know that's true. And it's kind of funny that it is true. You probably are familiar with William F. Buckley once said rather famously that he would rather be governed by the first 300 names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard University. And what he was making an important point in a clever way, that, you know, your average

folks, they've got common sense and they know a lot more than the elites do because they're in touch with reality. And that's what this country was founded on, the people governing themselves, not being governed by elitist globalist cabals. Not that if anybody's a member of an elitist globalist cabal, I'm not here to offend you. You can worship Satan and do as you like. But I'm just saying in my world, that's a bad thing. So, um, so, so, What can we look forward to because I'm really fascinated? This seems like a possible game changer for me, for the country, for the world, to have this as a possibility

that creatives can just go do things and you can see what happens. Yeah, what this means is that everybody out here can be part of stories that matter. You can have an impact on culture. You don't have to sit by the sidelines. So even if you don't have an idea, if you're not a creative, You can go there and see if you like something and send $100 to say, I want to invest in this. So let's say somebody puts in something, turns out to be a real dog, and it doesn't reach a certain level. Then obviously that money goes back to the people.

Correct. That's right. And who determines whether the funding being asked for is appropriate or whatever. Do you guys do that at Angel Studios? How does that? There's an application review process to make sure that they have the – They have the right budget. But they have to publish their budget. This is not mob rule.

This is ordered liberty. This is representative government, electoral college. There are a group of you that have to be involved. That's not a bad thing. So the creator needs to actually publish the information. Right. Like what their budget is. They need to say how they're spending the money.

Yeah. So we don't actually say your budget's incorrect or it's correct, but they need to be accountable to the audience of the community for what they're spending. Of course. And we see those as fixing themselves. That's right. It sounds like a limited government operation. I like it.

I'm still fascinated. When did you get the idea to do this? Because this is a really huge undertaking. So the idea started in 2012 when some brothers we thought we want to create a product for our families. This is you and your brother. Yeah. Brothers. There were four brothers that started the company originally.

But only two of you were in the ad agency that did the potty stuff? Three. Three. Yep. All right. And you said you want to do what? So we wanted to create a way to show to our young kids popular Hollywood movies without the F-bombs. And then we thought if we attracted an audience that we allowed them to skip over things that they found offensive,

that we would be able to create content for them that was better than what Hollywood was creating. So we created a company, and then the idea for the crowdfunding came when we were sued by Disney in 2016. And we were sued two weeks after we asked our audience whether or not they would be interested in investing in the company. Disney got wind of that, and they sued us to stop that funding. And we said, well, forget the funding. We just need to survive. You guys still want to invest. And we said we need $5 million to beat this lawsuit.

and they invested $10 million in five days. And one of the brothers, after that happened, he called me, and he said, can you imagine if we applied this crowdfunding model to media? And that's where the idea said. And nothing ever came of it. That's right. Are you kidding? Who wants that?

And nothing ever happened. And America went down the tubes. Thank you very much. I'm kind of glad that you, Neil Harmon, saw the possibility because it is funny. People get ideas, but to actually execute on it. It's a big deal. This is a big idea. Angel.com is where folks can find you.

We've got 30 seconds left. What else do we need to know? We're shouting for hooray because that lawsuit's totally over. The whole thing is over. The whole thing's over. Wow. So we survived a Disney lawsuit and it's onward and upward from here. So if you're a creator and you want to.

Yes, I am. If you want to answer to your community rather than to Hollywood, then go to angel.com. And if you are a movie or film or TV series fanatic and you want to be part of stories that matter, then go to angel.com and back shows that you want to see me. Well, we're going to put some stuff up on there, and we'll bug my audience to see if they like it.

This is a brilliant idea, a wonderful idea. Neil Harmon, God bless you, folks. Go to angel.com. Thank you. Thank you, Eric. Oh, Albin, it's just about the end of the show, but we've got some very exciting things before people go. I know. And it's got nothing to do with nutrometics.com, use the code Eric.

Nothing to do with neuterimetics.com, use the code Eric. Or my store.com, my pillor.com, use the code Eric. Nothing to do with that. I will not explicitly. I will not mention those things on this program today. Here's what I will mention. Please. There's a couple of people sailing around the world.

I won't mention their names. Don't. But Brown and. Eileen Counsel. Really? Those are their initials. They're in the studio making me nervous. Very old friends freaking me out by sitting here.

I have no problem talking to an imaginary audience, folks. That's how I think of you. You're out there someplace, but when it's actual people that I know, it kind of freaks me out. I just want you to know that. All right, so let me say this. Last night, I watched the Sons of Katie Elder, the movie with John Wayne. People want to know, hey, Eric, what are you doing your school? What do you do for fun?

I collapse. I eat a meal. and sometimes I'll watch, you know, TV, but what has TV become? Finally, as I knew it would, TV and streaming and everything has morphed into one thing. So do I flip around rarely unless TBN, sorry, TBN, Turner Classic Movies, TCM, Turner Classic Movies is my go-to thing. But if they don't have something on, you know, I'll see what I can find on, you know, Netflix or Amazon. We got a Brit box. So, yeah, so now we're on, now we go to Britbox.

Yeah. And we were watching Cranston. It's with Eileen. Who's the woman that I'm confusing with our guest in the studio? It's the British actress. Is it Eileen Atkins? Eileen Atkins, Judy Dench. Anyway, they're in this thing.

And I'm watching. It's entertaining. But you know it's skewed for a female audience. So I felt a little self-conscious. And after two episodes, I said, I can't do this anymore. I need to watch like a Western or something. So Suzanne and I found... Get that testosterone going.

So Suzanne and I found the sons of Katie Elder. 1965, Dean Martin, John Wayne. And it's not a great movie, but it's a very good movie. But there were a couple of lines in it. First of all, I always read the opening credits who's going to be in it. And there were a couple of names.

What's his name? Kennedy, who always plays the bad guy. Oh, yeah, yeah. He was... George Kennedy. George Kennedy plays the bad guy. Man, he's just like a wicked monster. He's the bad guy, but there are all of these other character actors whose names I don't know.

But then I noticed in the credits Strother Martin. Strother Martin is in all these. I can't even think, whatever. But there's a scene in the movie. There were a couple of lines in the movie, and I thought the movie was worth it to me for these, like, three lines. One of them was John Wayne is kind of arguing with Dean Martin about when they were kids. and he used to always throw me out of the hayloft and whatever. And John Wayne says, that's because you, I think, he remember the exact line,

but he says, he said, you always throw me out of the hayloft, and he says, that's just because you bounce so good. Now, most people will think that's not funny. I find it funny. And we just want to see you bounce. You know, it was just so stupid. By the way, your John Wayne is, is, it's freaking people out. If people listening on the radio, they think the Duke walked in here.

They think. But then there was another one, another one was referring to their mother, Katie Elder, and said she had more brass than a Kansas City fire engine. I said, that's a keeper. I want to remember that line. And anyway, then there's a scene with Dean Martin where he's faking. He's a gambler and a con man, and he's trying to fool people. This is with Strother Martin.

He's trying to fool people that he has a glass eye and he's raffling it off and he puts on an eye patch. So later on, he wins it back. And they say, well, we want to see you put it back in. And then the big reveal, he takes off the eye patch, and he says, I don't think I can do that because it'd be awful crowded in there. And I just thought, that's a brilliant way of putting it. But anyway, sons of Katie Eldra, we love to watch these movies. I want to remind people before we leave you for the day, in all seriousness, go to the wine patch.

Dot org. The Wine Patch.org. My friend Keith Junta, one of my dearest friends on the planet, does a lot of amazing writing. but he wrote about my experience at the Sean Foyt event the other day in the Bronx. Check it out, the wine patch.org. We'll see tomorrow.