The Eric Metaxas Show - David Clements

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Lawyer and filmmaker David Clements returns from DC with a report on the release of J6 Prisoners and voting integrity. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Folks, I'm excited right now to bring back onto this program our friend David Clements. David, where do we begin? I want to talk to you about J6. I want to talk to you about election fraud. How can people see, before we go anyplace, how can people see your film? Just go to Rumble or YouTube and put in Let My People Go documentary. Or you can go to my website, which is the professors record.com, and it's right there for free. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Last week, I was in Washington, D.C., and you were in Washington, D.C., correct? That's correct. Correct. We, Monday night of the 20th, my wife and I got tickets to one of those balls, right? And I've talked about it on the program, so I'll give the short version.
Starting point is 00:01:33 It's pretty much not worth going. It was like 10 degrees out, and it's impossible to get in. It's like it's just getting an Uber there, getting an Uber. It's like just this nightmare. So we were on the verge of getting into the long line in the bitter, bitter, bitter cold, you know, thinking, oh, somebody got us these tickets. We have to go to this thing.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And I just said, you know what, Suzanne, I'm out. let's not do let's just let's please skip this let's please skip this you know zoo it's a zoo it looks great on TV it's like if you watch it on TV it's no cost it's like no Uber there's no cold there's no waiting around and being tired and it's you just okay so we are walking home and because the traffic in DC was such a nightmare people who weren't there cannot possibly imagine what a nightmare it was to try to get an Uber. You know, my wife's wearing high heels were all dressed up. Like a nightmare, there are humvees and military people and you can't get within a mile almost of the venue. So you can't get a nightmare, a nightmare. So we're walking through the cold
Starting point is 00:02:50 and I realized, look at my phone, we might as well just walk all the way home to our hotel. Like just, we might as well just keep going because by the time we wait and wait and wait and wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So we're walking, again, it's unbelievably cold. We're walking and walking and walking. And some people come out of what looks like a hotel, and they're kind of dressed, they're not fancy. And I said to, we get talking to them, and they seem like, you know, Maga Christians. And I said, so where are you guys headed? And they said, we're going to the gulag. I said, excuse me, we're going to the D.C. Gulag, to the jail where all the J6 people are held. David Clements is there. And I'll tell you, David, I could not go for many reasons,
Starting point is 00:03:41 but I was so thrilled to hear that the J6 prisoners were being released that night, that you were there, that these folks were going there. So I want you to tell me in my audience about this. This is like, I, again, I couldn't believe it. When these people said this to me, because there's nobody else on the street, we just happened to bump into these folks and they told us about this. It was like, it was like a party in the cold on the street just talking about this. Yeah, I actually know some of the folks that came into contact with you. They didn't know who you were until you said your name. They're like, oh my God, it's Eric Batakis. But those were members of a 24-7 strategic prayer network that have been praying for our nation, for the president for
Starting point is 00:04:29 eight years straight. And they're grafted into a ministry that we started in 2021 called the Prisoner's Record, where we have had nightly prayer meetings every night, where we go over charges, we go over needs, we fill up commissary, we send letters. And so we've been praying for this day where we could have the release and see people home. And I'm still thawing out from the time out there by the Gulloch, but I wanted to have a film crew show up so we could welcome them. So if they come out, we can treat them like heroes. And it was very, very disappointing the first day.
Starting point is 00:05:11 I got there at 10 o'clock of the morning, long before Trump was sworn in. There was just probably three or four of us. And people started showing up. And we waited all day. After Trump issued the blanket pardons that evening, there were two individuals that were collected by the marshals. And that was not what we were looking for because, according to the pardons, there needs to be an immediate release. So there was another 20-some individuals inside the prison locally. And we were trying to manage and keep up with about 250.
Starting point is 00:05:49 prisoners through 60 facilities nationwide. And what's wonderful is the next day, we waited all day and eventually had 15 releases. They all came late at night. Jake Lang's probably the most notable or most visible. And many others, we had a J6 prisoner that was the first female that was released. And we were documenting these releases as we went along. We had certain congresspersons show up. I think Lauren Bobert showed up in person.
Starting point is 00:06:19 and Chip Roy, checking in Eli Crane, I believe, is the third that actually showed up, checking on the release. And so we went through the ups and the downs, and it got to a point where it was difficult to actually have contact because the marshals would actually release the J6 prisoners about a block away. And it makes sense because there was a certain counter-protesting element of Antifa. the jail officials were very, very nervous. They didn't like the fact that every time someone came out, the press would just rush the doors.
Starting point is 00:06:57 And so you kind of get called back to the circumstances surrounding J6 to begin with. And so we didn't want the J6ers to be penalized by our presence. But at the same time, a lot of these folks, you know, they've come out. They're homeless. They don't have jobs. They don't have bus tickets. And so we want to make sure that we can get them on a plane, get them in a hotel. And then the other thing that was wonderful, Eric, is that nearby facilities that imprisoned Stuart Rhodes, Robert Morris, these are individuals that, one of which was in the Pennsylvania facility, they made a beeline.
Starting point is 00:07:33 They drove all night. They released it midnight, 2 o'clock in the morning, made a beeline to the gulag because they spent time there initially. And they stood out in the cold with us all day. Mickey Widhoff, mother of Ashley Babett was there. And to see the human drama, I just can't describe it enough, where we've got former Green Beret, Jeremy Brown, who's still incarcerated right now in a new facility. They moved him.
Starting point is 00:08:02 His girlfriend of five plus years came up to D.C. was waiting all day. She was so excited to see her man, only to be disappointed and have him move to a different state. where he's still in prison right now. So the ups and downs, the emotions, it's hard to describe. I got to welcome my client, Jake. I was actually set for trial on February 2nd for his trial and get a bare hug in person.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I mean, it's so there's lots to rejoice over, but right now the count as I can kind of roughly estimate, we've got about 10 people that are still in, and we're following them very, very closely. Well, the drama, I mean, what do you say? It's all unbelievable. And I think I have to say, what always shocks me, David, is that there are tons of people who, they may even be pro-Trump people who still buy the narrative that, oh, yeah, MAGA people did some bad stuff. They still believe this. that, you know, I'm just convinced that they don't ever, they haven't looked into this. They haven't watched, you know, anything about this.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I mean, there have been a number of documentaries. There's been all kinds of stuff. And this lie is still the narrative. There are still people. Now, of course, the worst is on MSNBC or CNN, where they're going on and on about how, oh, look, Trump is releasing these violent people that, you know, this is payback because this is his militia. Like this insanity, this narrative is still out there.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And so we've got a long way to go to help America understand what actually happened, which you know and I know and some of us know. We'll be right back talking to David Clements. So you're putting money away, saving for the future, for retirement, for your family. You're doing what you're supposed to do, right? Well, what if I told you that your 401k IRA and other investments are probably paying for gambling abortion and LGBT causes. Inspire Advisors can tell you where your profits are really coming from.
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Starting point is 00:12:17 who were pardoned by Donald Trump. And I have to ask you, David, Donald Trump referred to them as hostages, and I thought, wow, that's a bold, beautiful thing that he put it that way. I had not heard that term before, the J6 hostages. Yeah. Well, it's the right way to describe them because a lot of people get caught up in the distinction between violent and nonviolent protesters. And they ignore the elephant in the room, which is entrapment, government-imposed entrapment. And so there's this doctrine called the fruit of the poisonous tree.
Starting point is 00:12:52 If you've got people that are planting evidence or creating the circumstances to create a trap, those cases are routinely dismissed. And the fact that a Trump or not Trump, but a officer might be assaulted, not to say that we want it to happen. But people have to understand that in America, every night when peace officers are arresting someone, there's usually an element of resistance that happens. and these folks aren't locked up for four years. Usually they're issued citations. It's time served. But if you have a circumstance, let's say that you've got a cop that's not as pure as the driven snow. And he plants evidence on someone that's resisting.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Those cases, you don't parse. You don't say you still get to get your pound of flesh as to an assault charge. The whole thing goes away. And so the specter of entrapment looms so large here because you had the inspector General report from Horowitz, which admits that at least 26 and baited agent provocateurs were there on the premises. And by 26, we mean you had 26 that were probably running smaller units throughout the Capitol. So you have potentially hundreds of federal informants that were there that were creating the circumstances for unwitting, unsuspecting, MAGA, country-loving,
Starting point is 00:14:15 Trump voters to be in a place where they were set up to fail. And so it's completely appropriate to refer to these folks as hostages because, you know, most sentences with respect to assault on a peace officer, you're looking at a misdemeanor. The sentencing range typically ranges from six months to 18 months at the top. And usually these folks aren't given the book. So I was a prosecutor for 10 years, I got to see these charges all the time, but to have people that really have misdemeanor trespass charges being held for years and years and years. And some of the assault charges, you know, the fact that we call it assault, it conjures up all kinds of images as if someone's being hit or struck. Some people throw a water bottle that didn't hit anyone. Those people
Starting point is 00:15:04 were charged with felonies. You've got people that, like Jared Wise, who's a former FBI agent who was yelling at the police to stop beating someone up. And by yelling at the police, he was charged with aiding and abetting and assault. And he had his case dismissed. The police were beating someone up. Yes, and he told them to stop. Okay, explain that.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Why were the police beating someone up? Well, it happened all over the place. And so, Coy Griffin, someone who was there, would tell you that they observed snipers with rubber bullets, just taking headshots. shooting people in the face. This was before there was an actual breach of the Capitol. Now, we're not talking about FBI scum that we're infiltrating.
Starting point is 00:15:53 We're talking about D.C. cops? It was a mixture of both. We have to go backwards because, you know, my audience, like me, it's pretty mixed, where we're still wondering, and I don't know if you can speculate, who was behind all this? I mean, it's one thing to get in the weeds and to talk about some cop doing this and some FBI provocateur doing this.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Who planned all this? Do we know who planned all of this? Who contacted the FBI to do this? Who? I'll speculate. I think you've got the senior executive service. Basically, these are the folks that never leave the swamp. These are the people that were there before Trump got in.
Starting point is 00:16:37 They're the people that were there after Trump left. left. And these are the people that really run the country. Who? The secret executive service. So at some point, who are we talking about? Okay, so typically you've got rank and file up to like a GS rating up to a certain point. And then there is a tier above that. And so think of like the Dick Cheney's, the intelligence agents, the people that had their security clearances recently revoked by President Trump. These are the people that basically are the swamp. And so when we talk about who they are, they're the ones that are interfacing with the Nancy Pelosi's, the Chris Rays. And so when you've got salacious facts like Trump recommending and authorizing 10,000 national guardsmen to make sure
Starting point is 00:17:30 that J6 doesn't happen, and Pelosi declines that offer, you have the circumstances. So the question is, why would they choose a narrative that paints Trump and his supporters in a bad light instead of doing the right thing? So you can point the fingers in many, many directions, but at some point you have to start looking up, looking at the hierarchy of decision making. Who has the power to say? This is what I'm asking, David. Name names. Who, whose idea was it to stage this theater? Whose idea was it to use this crowd as a prop in creating?
Starting point is 00:18:08 a false narrative. Who was behind this? Who do we think was involved in these conversations? I think it goes back probably to the same folks that were behind the crossfire hurricane events. I mean, the Mueller hoax, the Russia hoax. And so you see the facemen, and that's who I'm familiar with. I don't get to see the people that are hiding behind the door, but you see the Merrick Garlands. You see the Chris Rays. You see the Pelosi's. But this is what I'm asking you, do you think that Chris Ray, who's now resigned, that Nancy Pelosi, that Hillary Clinton, that they were in a room talking about this? Who do you suppose cook this up? I'm just, I'm guessing or are asking you to guess, but who do you think cooked this up?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Because this is a gigantic foul lie perpetrated on the American people. Who is behind this ultimately? Who do you think? I won't share names for purposes of that if I say something and I'm wrong, I'm exposing myself to significant liability, but I will say the senior executive service, if your followers will Google that, you will get a list of personnel, higher-ups that fit that category. But when you think in terms of who the Department of Homeland Security is, you think about all of the law enforcement aspects that can put you in bondage. lie about you, have siops deployed. That's where you have to focus. What is the power, the top of the food chain?
Starting point is 00:19:43 I don't necessarily think that's Hillary Clinton or that's Barack Obama. I think a lot of these folks are the sociopaths that you put in front of a camera to read someone else's script that was written for them. And so that's probably as close as I can get to the mark. I can tell you, though, factually that, yeah, Chris Ray's hands are dirty because he was he was leading the FBI. So if you've got embedded informants and the inspector generals have released a report that, yes, they were there. And he was very coy during a lot of the hearings where he was being cross-examined by, you know, Thomas Massey, Clay Higgins.
Starting point is 00:20:21 They were trying to get information from him under oath. And he just chose not to answer those questions directly. So it's hard to point to a precise point in time where he's, He's lying, but he's certainly lying through omission. Yeah, I wish I could be more helpful, Eric, but I think people just have to do their homework on this. Well, I just want to frame it because I keep you, you know, if you tune into Fox News, for example, most people on Fox News, I mean, I can't really think of anybody on Fox News who knows what happened the way you do or I do. and who's willing to talk about it that way.
Starting point is 00:21:06 They always kind of couched this legalistic crap where they say things like, well, we know that, you know, there were some violent people or there were somebody. They keep acting like, yeah, some bad stuff happened on the, you know, there was some overreach or there was some this. They don't seem to understand the actual narrative that this whole thing was a setup, that this whole thing was fraudulent, that this lie, this, this, this, this. this huge narrative lie has been pushed on the American people. They don't seem to be willing to call that out. That's on Fox. Yeah, look, I think SES is one thing.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I think you look at the unslecked committee. If we're going to name names, you can state objectively that the Liz Cheney's, the Jamie Raskins, the Benny Thompson's of the world were complicit because we know that depositions were taken of many individuals. Garrett Ziegler, Navarro, Bannon, and a lot of the information that came to light, the chief of the capital police, was suppressed to allow this narrative to emerge that you had people that were, you know, committing an act of insurrection, even though none of them were charged with them. And what's ironic was that there was a case called Fisher last summer where the biggest charge levied against the J-Sixers was obstruction of a crime. congressional proceeding. This was the one that carried with it a 20-year-plus sentence, and this allowed them to hold people that were otherwise charged with misdemeanors like criminal trespass indefinitely. We have to go to a break. Folks, this is very important talking to David Clements. The documentary is Let My People Go. We'll be right back. For years, customers have been asking
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Starting point is 00:24:15 Yeah, a little bit of everything. I canceled. I was a law professor until it was canceled for sending up against the jab. I didn't want my students to take it. And of course, I was giving commentary on the rigged election. And after about nine months of trying to hold on to my job, after receiving an award for teaching excellence, the very next day, I was unceremoniously shown the door. Where were you a law professor? At New Mexico State University in the Business College. Okay. So you have just been very, very brave, very brave voice. And you were just talking, you know, because we're talking about J6, but you were talking in the first segment about being there to help those who are finally being released, thank God, from their imprisonment.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And is there an organization because I know that there were people there, there's some kind of a network? I mean, if people are interested in reaching you or being a part of this network, is there a place where people can go online? On Telegram, we have a ministry called The Prisoner's Record. And it's there because it's one of the few places where we weren't censored out of existence. And we don't disperse funds. We don't take money. It's all volunteer. or we actually refuse because we've seen so much grifting that's that's happened in this community that
Starting point is 00:25:47 we want people to be a part of a community and then they can make up their own judgment on donating specific monies to it that goes directly to a family. And so we basically try to line up patriots to sponsor families, get in touch with them, pray for them to where there's a connection instead of outsourcing all of that decision making. and we'll go ahead and, you know, play God with people's money. We don't do that. But if people are interested in helping the prisoner's record on telegram, we've got administrators that can put you in touch with J-Sixers in your respective state
Starting point is 00:26:23 and pray on it. And that's how we've been doing it. We've been trying to keep families intact. Mortgage is paid because we had a sad story just yesterday. We learned that a guy that set up a give-s-s-send go, his wife was taking all the money, thought everything was good. He goes home and they're not there. His wife left him.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Took the kids. And so we're, it's like these are like soldiers that go out and serve the country, come back and they don't have a family. And so we're continually kind of dealing with this human tragedy as we just try to make sense of what's going on with the remaining hostages. And right now, just give you a few names in D.C. As of last night, Daniel Ball, D.R. Neely and Taylor, Toronto. They're still there, even though they were issued pardons.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Say the names again, please. Daniel Ball, Daryl Neely, Taylor, Toronto. They're still in the Goulag in D.C. We had some that were transported from there to a Kentucky detention center. I think it's Pike County, Domic Box, Jeremy Brown, Andrew Grigsby, and Theodore Middendorf. And this is one of the worst facilities in America. In fact, we got a communication from Jeremy Brown's fan. family. They've got 16 inmates crowded in a very, very small room. There's not enough beds for them.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And so many of them are sleeping on floor mats, Jeremy Brown included. And he has just been through hell wondering when someone's going to send the U.S. Marshals to provide real freedom after the pardon. And his girlfriend, I mentioned earlier, went up to D.C. has had to turn around and drive to Kentucky outside of this facility. We've got... guided by the name Edward Kelly, who's still being detained in Blount County. In British Columbia, Canada, Anthony Vaux is being detained. He actually fled the country and was detained when he was trying to get back in. He's been issued a pardon, but he's being detained.
Starting point is 00:28:29 And then we've got other folks like Ben Martin, who's been recently incarcerated because they released them. and then there's outstanding, you know, charges that might be four years old that get triggered and pinned in the system. And these, I don't want to curse, but these bastards, Eric, are basically violating them on probation when they should have done it four years ago. But because they're out, they're using the arrest that happened four years ago as grounds to violate them on probation on old, old cases just to bring the back to the president. Does the President of the United States have any recourse? Has he deputized anyone to deal with this stuff? I mean, he signs something. What happens when he signs something? Do we not have people to follow up on this? I mean, other than you. Well, you know, when I was outside the D.C. jail, he did have representatives go into the jail and they secured the release of the two individuals the first night that I was there. So I know that he does. But there's this question of if you're going to send the marshals in, are you going to create another conference? that the media can capitalize on.
Starting point is 00:29:38 So I think he's got the legal authorization to send the marshals in to do these things. But right now, there's a labyrinth of old charges. Maybe there's some justification in a few instances. Jeremy Brown had, I think, a misdemeanor that was outstanding. So what happens in the system is as soon as you get out before you can be removed to another facility, there's usually holds from unrelated charges or unrelated cases. And so I think most of the people that I just read off had some unrelated charge that needs to be resolved. But in certain circumstances, what we're finding is that they're basically now tracking these J6 prisoners looking for new conditions of release to be imposed upon them, especially those that were commuted, not pardon, like Stewart Rhodes.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And they're monitoring them so closely that if there's a condition and you're not supposed to be on social, media and Stuart Rhodes does an interview on social media, they want to violate them and bring them right back into the prison system. Right. And so the people that were the sedition hunters, these Antifa, terrible people, are now trying to repurpose their efforts on black. I mean, look, we'll be right back. Folks talking to David Clements. Don't go away. David Clements about the J6 horror. What you're describing, David, again, my larger concern is the narrative, that there are still many Americans that watch CNN. They think really bad stuff was done. And Trump pardoned them and it's confusing. And then you have really
Starting point is 00:31:30 wicked people that they hate justice, they hate America, they hate due process, they hate Donald Trump. And they would love to see any friend of Trump, any friend of liberty, stay in jail. I mean, it's almost unbelievable. We're living at a time like this. And so we have to get the narrative out. And as I said before, Fox News doesn't understand what happened.
Starting point is 00:31:56 They are still hedging their bets and kind of pretending like, I mean, we had, what's his face? The guy that everybody keeps praising on CNN, he says all this brave stuff and he's a good guy. But even he said something on CNN like,
Starting point is 00:32:10 oh, yes, but I don't think Trump should be releasing the ones that were violent or what. He kind of acts like, oh, yeah, there were all these violent J-6ers, and yeah, we shouldn't be releasing them. These folks are still drinking the poison Kool-Aid to some extent. They still don't seem to understand that this is what's been described as a Fed-Surrection. They don't get that. Yeah, well, the people that were murdered weren't the police. They keep throwing that out there.
Starting point is 00:32:37 There was one officer that died the next day, and there was a person. a phenomenon where people being sprayed with toxic chemicals and this police officer was in the midst of that. And there have been people that have had medical complications resolved that. But Roseanne Boylan, she was murdered. Ashley Babette, she was murdered. And so for the people that want to look at the salacious photographs of a Jake Lang holding a bat, to stop and ask yourself, why did he have the need to pull up a bat and you see? You see. force against police shields. It's because he witnessed Rosanne Boylan murdered in front of him. This is after he saved Philip Anderson's life, pulled him out after he was getting trampled.
Starting point is 00:33:23 This is after he saved Tommy Tatum's life, got him out. Okay, so I have to ask, why were the two people that you just mentioned, you know, who killed whom? Are you talking about D.C. police? We're not talking about Ashley Babette, because that one we all know, but these other folks, Boylan, what, what, What was going on there? I think elements of the Capitol Police were set up to fail. I think this was all about a narrative. So in certain circumstances, it's clear as day that the police provided some type of authorization to open the gates, open doors, wave them in. We've all seen the videos.
Starting point is 00:34:05 In other areas, it's not clear that they got that same information, but the doors were unlocked from the inside. And if anyone knows about the security level for the Capitol, these doors, you could, you could hook chains to the hands. Listen, I'm not talking about that. That to me, that's one level of melt. But you're talking about people being killed? Yes. But so when you have these choke points and you've got Roseanne Boyland and you've got these scenarios with very, very little room to move around and you've got the Capitolies showing up, they'll take their baton sticks out. And there's videos of this.
Starting point is 00:34:40 and they're using lethal force, literally stabbing people in the head. And people are falling, getting knocked over, getting asphyxiated, and getting trampled. And so when people like Jake Lang go to the doors, they're seeing this happen. They're pulling bodies out of places where people can't breathe. They're being hurt viciously. Okay, what you're talking about right now, has this story, which you know to be true, Has this been covered anywhere on Fox News? No, no.
Starting point is 00:35:14 You've got a few brave souls like Laura Logan that we've gone through. Laura Logan is not on Fox News. No, she's not. She's been canceled. Okay. But I'm saying Fox News. This is, you know, they're ostensibly pro-Trump or whatever. They're not covering what you just said.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I mean, this is incredibly clear, but people have to come to the Eric Mattaxas show to hear this. I mean, this is unbelievable because you're talking about what actually happened. And this narrative, which is at the heart of everything, is not getting out. This is what blows my mind. Why would Fox News not cover this? Is Sean Hannity not covering this? Well, yeah. Look, I haven't been a fan of Fox News like forever because I see them as third railers.
Starting point is 00:36:02 They present the guardrails, I think, on 90% of the issues, maybe. On the red meat issues, they're good. I think you've got another level of folks that I say occupy conservative ink. And they will go to a certain point and they'll say, yeah, the election was rigged, but they won't talk about the election vendors. They won't talk about the machines because they don't want to be sued. J-Sixers, there's a safe place to occupy about violent people got what they deserve, the nonviolent let them out. And they're wrong. They're wrong because they're missing just how evil the setup was.
Starting point is 00:36:38 and I don't know why that is, Eric. I don't know why by Fox would, you know, settle and pay a check and not do their due diligence in the Dominion case. I don't know why they're not covering this. I don't know why they would fire. The Dominion and the voting stuff or whatever, that's a whole other conversation. It's a whole other conversation. But, but, you know, case and point, the QAnon shaman, you know, what was Tucker's last show on Fox News? When he provided actual footage of the guided tour of the Q&Non shaman.
Starting point is 00:37:08 shaman. And now, and so he was thrown off of Fox as part of their settlement agreement. And so when you ask me questions, what is Fox thinking? It's like, I don't know why they have this narrative that it's just impossible to see the American people in MAGA as a good thing. And so it's, I guess it's whatever Trump stands for that threatens their, their existence. Look, but somebody like Sean Hannity, you know, I don't expect Brett Bear to get this. this, okay? No, I don't. There are a lot of folks on Fox. They're pretty useless, whatever. But somebody like Sean Hannity, I would expect him to talk about what you just said, about Boylan, about Jake Lang, about this is like at the heart of everything, is this lie. And I would expect someone like
Starting point is 00:37:59 Sean Hannity to understand what happened and to talk about it. And I'm just astonished, frankly, that he doesn't. I don't get that. I just don't get it. I agree. There's many law professors. I think there's a guy named John Charlington, another one that's really said that Trump's making a mistake. And they don't see the human damage. They don't see the collateral damage. They don't see the anguish in these families. And my response to all of them, Eric, is even if you disagree with me about the violent, nonviolent protesters, how much is enough? I mean, how many years do these folks have to be incarcerated? final segment folks I'm talking to David Clements his film is let my people go you need to look him up we'll be right back welcome back folks I'm talking to David Clements David um you know what this reminds me of frankly this all reminds me of I've been reading uh on the American Revolution and when I think about the British tyranny how they how cruel they were And I think many have forgotten this, but how cruel they were to the patriots in Boston, for example. And we think about the Boston massacre. The Boston massacre is similar to me to what happened on J6,
Starting point is 00:39:40 because, yeah, there was like some people on both sides that weren't great. But it was in response to a deep injustice. And so you have people that they're not willing to, you know, to call a spade a spade. They're still kind of like, well, it's complicated. On one level it's complicated. On another level, it is not complicated. And the narrative of what actually happened has to get out. And I really think that just as the Boston Massacre, which happened in 1770, became a rallying cry for the Patriots, for the Sons of Liberty in Boston. Austin, that that's what J6 is, that what happened, it's become a rallying cry.
Starting point is 00:40:26 It's something that we will never let this go. We will never, ever let this go. What happened needs redress. Justice needs to be done. The truth needs to get out. It's just unbelievable. And it falls to such as you and to much lesser extent to such as I to try to get the truth out. It's just amazing to me that so many, even in the conservative orbit, I mean,
Starting point is 00:40:55 how many senators are talking about this? Any senators that you know of that are talking about this that understand what you understand? Not to the degree that I'm satisfied that they're part of the solution. Look, you've got maybe three congresspersons that I think have been diligent. I think Marjorie Taylor Green's done a, you know, I'm, I'm just a, I'm, I'm disappointed all of them. Let me just say that. But she's put out some stuff. You had Loudermilk who actually met with me in his chambers and we were trying to get to the bottom of things months ago. And I appreciate him taking the meeting because some of them won't even give you the time of day to help these folks. On the U.S. Senate side, I've heard very little from anyone. Mike Lee
Starting point is 00:41:42 will every once in a while put out a tweet talking about, you know, constitutional, theoretical things that are that that bother him but they don't get to the heart of the issue that's plain as day is that there's a massive false flag and you had government entrapment on a level that I've I've never seen as a line prosecutor for for the better part of a decade and the fact that they can't see it and when you when you get outside of the beltway and you talk to American citizens I've been to 48 states over the past three years I know what the rank and file think about what happened in D.C. And they get it.
Starting point is 00:42:22 They get it. But you've got this outsized influence through the propaganda media feed that's being beamed into everyone's home each night. And as soon as we think we're awakening people and breaking the spell, they turn back on the same box that has brainwashed them over the past 20 years. And so, yeah, our work's cut out for us. But I'll tell you this, what's encouraging is that we have more. or less 240 prisoners that are free to tell their story. And as long as they can draw a breath,
Starting point is 00:42:52 they can tell everyone about the atrocities to set the record straight. And so it's your job, it's my job, to continue to just tell the truth. I really believe that all of these J-Sixers are, they're the hope of America. They have been radicalized by what they experienced. I hope many of them run for office. My friend John Strand has talked about that. We're at a time. David Clements, thank you, thank you, thank you. bless you for the work you're doing. People can find your film, let my people go online. And the telegram is the prisoner's record. If people want to check that out, David, thank you so much. Thanks, Eric.

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