Dinesh D'Souza and Jenna Ellis
00:12As the announcer of this show, I sometimes ask myself, to what shall I compare Eric?Shall I compare him to a summer's day?Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May.But not Eric.I'll tell you nothing shakes this guy.And now here he is, wearing green leotards and a gestures coxcomb, Eric Mataxis.Exiton, stage left.Hey folks, welcome to today.
00:33Wherever you are, I'm sure it's today.For us today means Thursday, November 12th.But who are we?Honestly, we've got Jenna Ellis. Remember Jenna Ellis? She's coming up in a couple of minutes. And I want to warn you, the last time she was on this program, it got 500,000 views on our YouTube channel. Are you subscribed to our YouTube channel? It is exploding. We may be out of room quickly. You need to get in there and subscribe. Go to the YouTube channel for the Eric Mataxis show.I'm not kidding.500,000.That's three days ago she was on.It got 500,000 views.
01:17In the metric system, that counts as a half a million in three days.So I want you to go to the Eric Mattaxas show YouTube channel, if you can.If you're listening on radio, hey, what do you want for me?But what I'm saying is that if you want to see the visuals, you have to go to YouTube.But obviously, we love our radio listeners and our podcast listeners.But I cannot believe how things have blown up.I mean, Chris and Albin, you guys have been telling me about this.Like, we got like 25,000 subscribers like in the last month or something crazy.
01:50I know why.You just got better and better looking.I don't know how you did it, but look at you.You know what?Thank you for saying what needed to be said.Because a lot of people, they just shrink back.Thank you, my friend, for, you know, for bravely being willing.A lot of people just be willing to say it.
02:09By the way, I got to say this before Jenna comes on tonight, we're having another prayer call.Those of us who are crazy enough to believe in the living God, the God of history, oh yeah, we're nuts.We believe in this stuff.We believe in the power of prayer.If you don't, hey, just write us off as wackos.But we believe in the power of prayer.We believe God cares about history.And some of us believe that he has great plans for the freest, most prosperous country in the history of the world, that our story.
02:39is not over. We're not supposed to slither down south to Venezuela into the ash heap of history,which technically or actually literally is located geographically within the borders of Venezuela.I've seen the ash heap on the internet. I'm pretty sure it's real. But the point is tonight we'rehaving another prayer call. If you want to join that prayer call, it's a little on the charismaticPentecostal side. There's a man who blows a red, white, and blue shofar. Chris Heimes, you know I'm notmaking that up. Yeah, I haven't been able to join yet because of my, because of your skepticism tothe reality of God, the Lord of hosts, Sabai Oath. That's your problem, pal. Who? Chris, listen,when he blows the show far, I was very tempted because it's kind of like, weh, you know, it's not,
03:26but I was tempted to say, hey, can you play the flight of the bumblebee on that? But I didn't, I didn't,I didn't do that. Okay, so listen, tonight, the prayer call, I'm going to put it out on my, on all my social media.I'm also going to put out the link.It's Facebook, Global Awakening.I don't even know, remember what it is.But if you look on my, if you look on my social media, whatever it is, Facebook, Parlor, Twitter, Gab, whatever, I've listed it there.But it's tonight, I think it's 8 o'clock Eastern.I don't know.
03:56But it's a powerful time of prayer.I hope you can join it.Also, the Family Research Council is doing a prayer call tonight.for those of you who are perhaps Dutch reformed, you're frightened by shofar.Maybe you don't even know what a shofar is.Maybe you're only saved technically in an intellectual theological sense.Hey, that's your issue.You go to Tony Perkins and the Family Research Council.
04:20A lot of my friends are participating in that one.I would if I could be in two places at once like Padre Pio, but I cannot.And that's a deep, deep Catholic joke.Okay, so folks, yes.You know what, a friend of mine, I'm not kidding, just texted me this from the epic times, epoch times, whatever.Yeah, yeah, yeah.It's a new map.It's a new map that shows the realistic count right now if everything was played out fairly.
04:48Actually, I would just want to tell you that I also posted on social media.Kevin McCullough, Vodestradamus shared.And he's going to be, by the way, exonerated as Vostradamus.You watch and see when we find out where illegal votes came from.But he texted me something, too.I don't want to forget tonight's prayer call.I also want to say, now that we know that Fox News is in the bag for Biden,courtesy of George Soros, now, unfortunately, I don't think I'm joking.
05:16I think there's something here.I talked about it on the program yesterday.I figured out no joke that the reason I was not allowed on Fox News to talk aboutmy Donald the Caveman books is because the number one villain in the swamp isthe dinosaur named the George Osoros.I'm actually not joking.I know from two sources now that they were forbidden from mentioning Soros on the air.So that's not like a rumor, you know, that because Newt Gingrich mentioned it,
05:49it was some kind of a rumor.Evidently, two people that I know and respect told me this happened to them and they wereactually banned from Fox as a result of this, which sounds insane.but I know these people wouldn't make this up.So that would be why my first book and then all subsequent Donald Caveman books haveFox and Friends, Hannity, nobody has allowed me to come on and talk about these books,which kind of doesn't make sense because it's sort of up their alley.So I think maybe Rupert Murdoch has made a dirty deal with his billionaire pal, George Soros.
06:24I don't know, but it sure sounds like it.So that brings up two things.You therefore have a patriotic duty to buy the Donald, the Caveman books.I recommend going to my store.com.That's connected to mypillow.com.If you go to Mypillow.com, always use the code.Eric, to get our discount.It's a huge discount.
06:45It's the most comfortable discount you'll ever get.And also, I want to remind you, if you don't mind my saying this before Jenna Ellis comes on,that you guys know what I'm going to say?No, no, say it, say it, say it.Well, it was just to go to mypillow.comand to use the code Ericbecause independent of the Donaldthe Caveman book controversy,
07:17you know that Fox News is making a lot of moneyfrom those Mike Lindell adsand that money is now going into the coffersof Soros-friendly people, it seems to me.So if you see an adyou know, on one of those shows, don't use that discount.Use our discount, Eric.We can't force you to do that.
07:38But just to encourage you to use the code, Eric,let me repeat, and this is a scientific fact,it's the most comfortable discount code you'll ever get.Yay!Isn't that uncanny?That's Frank Gorshan-level impression.Okay, we also have to stay.Where people need to get gifts for people.
07:57So you're thinking about that.Are we allowed to say Christmas on the Salem Radio Network?Because it's banned on Fox.Did you know that?Nope.That's right.The Gringe, George Soros, has banned Christmas.Not him.
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09:42We want to double the number.We have 125,000 people subscribe.We want to double that number by Christmas.And I also want to say we're at a time.Make like a Mr. Milk Toast.You'll get shut out.Hey there, folks. Welcome back. Things are so crazy in this country now that I book a guest,and that guest has to be in meetings with the president of the United States. And so they say,
10:26oh, can we do it a little bit later, Eric? And what do you think I'm going to say? And you tell the president,you're on the Eric Mattaxas show, and he has to wait. I'm not going to say that. So Jenna Ellis will bewith us in a few minutes, but we have my friend, Dinesh D'Souza, with us right now. Dinesh, welcome.Hey, Eric, I'm happy to report my meeting with the president is later today.So I was able to pull this off.I know.I am only having on guests who are meeting with the president today.That's the level that we've moved to on this program, Dinesh.
10:57You understand, in all seriousness, you're going to be on this program tomorrow becauseI've been wanting to talk to you for a long time about what you see happening in the country.But I said, if we can get you on a little bit today, let's talk a little bit today.and I just want to say, I don't think anybody,but somebody from the country of India,could pull off a lavender shirt and still look masculine.Well, I think it's the brown skin,so the pastel against the brown.
11:26Remember, Erica, I am a person of color.I speak with the moral authorityof somebody whose ancestors have been victimized for centuries.By the way, in case you didn't know,Trump hates you people.Okay, let's continue.We are at a tremendous inflection pointin America right now. And I know that my audience is getting less clarity from places like
11:49perhaps Fox News. They're dying to know what is going on behind the scenes or what people likeyou think. So just tell us, where do you think we are in this process right now? What do youthink is happening? I think we're at a point where we are asking really basic questions aboutfundamental institutions. This actually has become bigger than even an election result, and that'sbig enough. It involves, in a sense, every election result. Because remember, first of all,Republicans, conservatives, we've lost elections before, many. We lost two with Obama. We lost the midtermin 2018. So this is not about can we live with the result of a losing election. We've shown thatwe can. If anybody needs to demonstrate their willingness to live with defeat, it's the other side.
12:42They went crazy when Trump was elected. They've never accepted the result until now. So it'skind of weird that they're demanding that we, you know, show our ability to take a loss and so on.They never did. Oh, I have to just interrupt you, just in case people forget, because I forgot,literally the day after the inauguration, just in case people wonder, how do things get so divisive in America?Oh, it's because of Trump.No, no, no.This is the day after the election, there was the women's march, which was not a women's march.It was a hate Trump march.
13:16And Madonna said, yes, I've thought a lot about blowing up the White House.This was the day after the inauguration, not the election, the inauguration.So the inability to accept the results of an election, just as you said, I want to be really clear with my audience how dramatically the Democrats refused to accept the results of an election where we know there was no voter fraud. Nobody alleged voter fraud. They simply thought with no voter fraud, we still refuse to accept the election. But the idea now that there is significant suspicion of,voter fraud with a lot of evidence coming out, what you're saying becomes all the more shockingthat they are accusing us of saying that you don't want to accept an election. Well, it strikes me thatthere's very good reason not yet to accept anything. Yeah, first of all, they know that all the voterfraud is coming from their side. In fact, the reason that they say things like, if you watchthese headlines carefully, there's no evidence of massive voter fraud. There's no evidence of
14:25systematic voter fraud. This is kind of the media stance because they know that there's just simplyan avalanche of affidavits about this dead guy who voted and this guy who's, you know,vote was transplanted and that guy who's voted, but it never showed up. So ultimately, I thinkthe Trump people are going to have to make the systematic case. I don't know to what degreestatistical evidence is going to work here. But the statistical evidence seems to me,to be quite overwhelming.Oh, sure.And I'll mention just two brief lines of evidence.
15:01The first one is simply what I would call the idea that, for example,Biden could get 138,000 consecutive votes.Now, I saw a guy who's behind the decision desk at Fox,and literally this guy with sort of a straight face goes,well, you know, Americans do kind of vote in groupsand there are communities where there are like a lot of Biden guys who all live together.Who said that?This was the guy, this was not Steyerwald.
15:25but the other dude who's running the election desk at Fox.He was being interviewed, and he was saying literally without blinking, that this is how it is.And I can testify, you know, just from my own experience, I mean, we open our movies, for example, in major cities.And a lot of people think, you know, our movies are going to do well only in Red America.No, our movies do fantastically in L.A., fantastically in Chicago, fantastically in New York City.Why?Because there are tons of red people who live in the blue areas.That's a fact.
15:56I'm one of them.You're one of them, I know.So the idea that you can rack up 137,000 blue votes without one red vote intruding is statistically preposterous.The other interesting patterns we're seeing in the swing states.And by the way, it's very interesting that the voting essentially stopped only in the swing states, the vote counting.But look, we have to all understand that.That is when we knew something was going on.You want to talk about statistics?
16:24I mean, the idea that it happened simultaneously only in the swing states, only when Trump lookedto be pulling ahead, any fool would say, I see something fishy going on.How about if we investigate?If we look back in retrospect, it's almost like they needed election day to figure out how manyvotes they needed to cook up.And moreover, even some of the other craziness, when you look back, I was wondering, you know,why isn't Biden campaigning?This guy is acting as if he's got the whole thing in the bag.
16:53And now in retrospect, it seems like, well, maybe.he knew he did or even the way that they pressed Amy Coney-Barrant. Will you agree that if this casegoes to the courts, you will recuse yourself? Again, this would seem like an odd question to presswith so much insistence. And now again, in retrospect, it's like, ah, yeah, now we see why they wereso insistent. They kind of knew that this was going to be a legal fight because they were cooking it up.It's just staggering. I mean, you and I, you know, you come from India.I come from a family where my parents left, Greece and Germany.And so we have a particular way of seeing things.
17:34We're aware of the fact that the way this country has worked is not normal.To have elections where every vote actually counts, where we stand against corruption,it's something beautiful and noble and sacred.And the idea that we're going to look the other way when it starts to look fishy,I think every American, unless they simply despise Trump so much that they're irrational to the point of not caring whatever about our foundational institutions and values, that any American would say, we really want to win, but we don't want to win by cheating. That seems to me the most basic thing. You teach your children that. The Democrats really seem to be so desperate, so consumed with hatred, that they would be.very happy to win by cheating.And I would widen the angle by saying things like this.You know, I've been in America now since the very late 1970s.
18:33I never thought I'd live in a country where, let's say, my right to free speech would comeinto fundamental question, where we would have these digital platforms that came to powerby purporting to be sort of like the phone company.You know, in other words, we're a neutral platform.We're going to allow you to connect with your relatives and your old friends.We're going to have a robust debate.And then when they become monopolies, they turn on you and they basically decide, we're going to regulate your content.I mean, can you imagine if AT&T were to say, we're going to be doing, we're going to be listening in on your calls, no hate speech loud.
19:03And if you say things that are misinformation, we're going to limit you to two phone calls a week, even though you pay your bill, we're going to cut your service off.I mean, people would shut the place down.So who knew that our First Amendment rights, our rights to assemble, our rights to religious freedom?And look at the media.Who would know we'd reach a point in the media where they would support.unanimously suppress the biggest story of the election.In other words, there's not one journalist at one major institution in the country that goes,you know what, all these other fools aren't covering this big story.
19:35Let me cover it for the Dallas Morning News.Let me cover it for the Sacramento Bee.No, the level of conformity is so great that that guy knows that if he put out the Biden story,if he talked about what was on Hunter Biden's laptop, his own boss would cut his throat.Right.I mean, this is a big deal.This is a big deal. And this shows, you know, people often say, you know, how is it possible that that happened in Germany in the 30s in a civilized country? Well, I say, I'll tell you how. Precisely like this. When you do not speak up and tell the truth, you add to the pressure to others to not speak up and tell the truth. And when there are enough of you, everyone looks away, everyone says what they think they're supposed to say, and you go down the tubes quickly thereafter.In this nation, you and I know that we've not been at a moment like this.
20:27This is an extraordinary moment.And everyone has to be committed to speaking the truth.We're going to go to a break, folks.We've got more coming up with Dinesh D'Souza.After Deneh, we'll speak to our friend Jenna Ellis.And we'll have more with Dinesh tomorrow because this is a much bigger conversation.Don't go away.Investors.
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22:57Use the code Eric.You're going to get whopping savings and really high quality products.Did I mention that?Thank you.Folks, I'm talking to Dinesh D'Souza.Jenna Ellis is coming up.Deneh, I have to ask you, where do you think we are today?This is Thursday, the 12th of November.
23:20Where do you think these lawsuits are?Where do you think the Dominion voter machine fraud is?I mean, it seems to me clear there's fraud.This is really, really dark, nasty stuff.And I think a lot of people in the middle, maybe they didn't vote for Trump,but they're not comfortable with this kind of voter manipulative.this kind of fraud.Where do you think we stand now in terms of pushing forward this investigation?
23:45You know, I was just talking about this topic with O'Reilly,and he was arguing that there was only one path for Trump to win.I'd call it the narrow path.And the path is for Trump to take Arizona and then for the Supreme Court to essentiallythrow out the late votes in Pennsylvania on the grounds that state law clearly requiresthat the votes be in by 8 p.m. Election Day, a judge decided whimsically,I'm going to give you a three-day grace period, flatly contravening the state law.So the Supreme Court could very narrowly say, listen, it's very simple. Those are illegal votes.
24:19We're going to toss them out. Trump wins Pennsylvania and thus wins the presidency.This is the narrow path. I favor the wide path because it seems to me that if the court takes thenarrow path, they will leave the structure of cheating in place. And it will recur in the future.So what the Supreme Court needs to do, I think, is two things.One is to recognize that the idea that you had all this vote switching,the idea that, for example, Trump was running alongside the other Republicans all through Election Day.In fact, he was doing better by about 7% than the other Republican candidates in the swing states.And then after Election Day in the counting, the other Republicans held the pattern.
24:58But Trump took a nose dive.This would be as of tens of thousands of people decided to vote for Biden alone.but no other Democrats. So very weird. I mean, anyone who looks at this, anyone who does dataanalysis, artificial intelligence, pattern recognition, can see this is more than fishy. This iswrong. Something has gone on here and something has gone wrong by programming or by design.So the Supreme Court needs to say, let's get into this. And second, let's define once and for allwhat a legal vote is. So the state governments have the right to orchestrate the procedure. They candecide how to organize the counting, but this is what a legal vote is and nothing else counts as
25:39a legal vote. I think the Supreme Court would do a lot to build confidence in the legitimacy of ourdemocracy if it took this occasion and what better occasion is there to do that.No one has made that point. The point you just made strikes me as very powerful,very, not just powerful, but significant in terms of the big point.picture when the Supreme Court rules, keeping in mind what you just said, that they have to send asignal that not only do we want this election to be fair, but we want everyone to know that fairnessis who we are. And it seems to me that if they're not willing to make an example of this,they should come close to that. They should say that we as Americans are offended in the same way
26:30that George Washington was offended when his officers came to him and said,let's do a military coup. It is right for people who love liberty to be offended at those kinds ofsuggestions. And I think that's very interesting, Dinesh. I guess I wonder, how do you think it findsits way to the high court? Somebody said to me that the administration is judge shopping right now.They have to find somebody in a lower court who's willing to hear this. I mean, it's complicated forpeople who are not lawyers. Well, that's the way the process works. You file at the local level. Sometimes youlose at the local level, but it doesn't matter because your goal is ultimately to run it up theflagpole. And you can do this in a very expedited way because all the courts recognize that this
27:13is the pressing issue that has to be resolved and resolved immediately. You know, I'd like to make abroader point here, and that's this, that normally when somebody wins, they want to demonstratethat the process is fair. It's really odd that Biden is saying nothing about, hey, if I were Biden,And I would say, you know what? Of course I won fairly. Let's investigate voter fraud. Let's check all these things out. You know, this would be like if you told LeBron James that every time he goes for the basketball hoop, the hoop drops four inches. It would be in his interest to say, wait a minute, don't be ridiculous. That's not the case at all. Come take a look. But Biden is dead silent on the topic, which suggests to me that he knows that something is up. You can establish a process as fair only when you convince the losers that therules were fair. It's not for the winners to go, oh, of course we won the rules are fair.End of story. Now you unify with us. No one's going to go for that. You've got to convince theloser. You know what? You came in seventh in the race. But look, you did start on the same line.The clock went on. The gun went off. And the other guy hit the finishing tape first. So you can
28:22verify for yourself that you lost a fair race. Otherwise, of course, all the participants feelthat the race was rigged because it is. And think of the example.this sets for children.If you don't take honesty and fairness very seriously as a nation,to me that is just a tremendously corrosive image to send to young people,that winning at all costs is what we're about.And you're quite right.The Biden folks, what they have done is basically said,
28:58everybody shut up, it's over.Everybody shut up.It's over.Look, we know it's over because we're going to, look,we're having a party, we're having a rally.We're grateful that it's been decided, even though it hasn't been decided.And in case you're still not convinced, we spent a couple of hundred bucks on graphicdesigners and we now have an official sign that says,
29:16the office of the president-elect, look, look, it's very obvious.It's amazing how hard they are pushing the idea that it's over, nothing to see here.That's because they are depending on the Republicans to be, to follow.their customary sucker behavior and fall for it. So this, I think, is the what's different. In a way,Trump has sort of remade the Republican Party. He's done it in other ways. It's a little more of aworking class party and so on. But he's remade it in the sense that we now see through this.We're not falling for the scam. We have a hard break. My apologies. We'll talk to you tomorrow.Dinesh. Thank you so much.
29:57Look forward to it.Hey there, folks. You remember Jenna Ellis.Remember she was going to be on earlier in the program and was replaced in the lineup?The coach said, we want Dinesh to go in.And we're going to hold Jenna for the cleanup batter spot.Remember that?Well, the fourth batter in the order.Here she is.
30:32Jenna Ellis.Jenna, welcome.Thanks so much for having me, Eric.Look, I know you are busy in meetings with the president.We are in the middle of a national crisis.I am really confident.A lot of people are praying.You're there.
30:47you're a lawyer. What do you see happening right now? Where are we? Yeah, well, where we're at isuncovering just massive, massive fraud. And this is, there will be lawsuits that will be filedin the forthcoming days, possibly even within the next 24 hours. And remember, of course,for all the American people who are wondering, you know, when are we going to see the evidence? Whenare we going to get to the bottom of this? Investigations do take time we're working as rapidly aspossible. It's only been a little over a week, but what we are discovering the people who arecoming forward as whistleblowers to explain what they saw not only at the polling locations,and then how they were denied access to the polling locations, but even more than that,
31:31Eric, what we're seeing with this Dominion voting system, this is huge. And the president has tweetedabout this today that reports are coming out and what we're seeing of possibly up to 2.7 millionor more votes that were simply deleted, that were for President Trump, how their voting systemwas able to have users that would log in and see the votes as they were coming in.And if it was a Trump vote, they could manually change it to a Biden vote.They could duplicate the vote if it was Biden and have a person actually cast not one butsix votes for Biden.So all of this technology, we really, really need a forensic audit.
32:16we need to know exactly what happened. And there's even more than this that I can't even go into detail right now about this company. And it's a foreign company and it's been used in multiple states. I mean, this has now nationwide impact. There is no doubt in my mind that the president is absolutely right that this election was rigged. And so now it's just a matter of gathering the evidence, filing the lawsuits, and getting to the proof in court.I have to say, anybody who follows me on Twitter knows, I posted a little bit about this Dominion company, and it is nasty stuff.We're talking about George Soros involvement. We're talking about, I mean, it's one of these things that you'd make it up like in a novel and you'd say, but this could never happen in reality.I mean, the idea that we now have this kind of voting where tech people, where people who are brilliant with computers,can do things that you could never dream of doing with a paper ballot or with one of the oldfashion voting machines. I mean, it's tremendous. I mean, when you say something like 2.7 million,I think of the old people with walkers who stand in line for a long time to cast their sacred vote.One vote like that is sacred. When you think of not just that one person, but of
33:44thousands and potentially scores of thousands and hundreds of thousands and maybe millions beingdisenfranchised that way, you want to talk about voter suppression? Don't you find it ironic thatthe other side, including President Obama, talking about voter suppression, which is a joke?I mean, show me the voter. Do you want to see evidence? How about you show me evidence of votersuppression? But we're talking about people that believe in this nation, believe in our system,and somebody very cynically paying off, I don't know who, I guess I want to ask you.You don't come out as well.How do we know?
34:23I'll stay tuned.So who paid and who was behind this?Right, right.Well, and a couple of really important points that you made, Eric, is that, you know,this isn't even just about the $2.7 million, which is an astounding number.I mean, the mainstream media, as we've talked before, is trying to use this term,widespread fraud to move the goalpost and to basically say, this doesn't matter, this doesn't matter.Biden is the president-elect. We've coronated him. That's the end of the story. But even more than that,
34:52when you have this much of intentional malfeasance and you have this much intentional criminal activity,this is really a disenfranchisement of the entire nation at this point. Because when you look atwhat's going on, I mean, this isn't just a mailman who takes a stack of votes.And every single one of those is sacred and absolutely.I mean, if this was 40 votes, it would matter.It counts as fraud.We need to diminish that.But this is such sinister evil conduct that it's an intentionally designed system to have user manipulation
35:29so that they can disenfranchise the entire nation.And so this isn't just about those specific votes that were manipulated.This is about leaving open this electronic.activity for this type of fraud on purpose. And I posted a link on my Twitter page. I'd encourage everybodyfollow, follow me, follow Team Trump, of course follow the president on Twitter. But I posted a link to areport just from last year in 2019 from the state of Texas who refused to certify Dominion votingsystems because they found that it was too open to this kind of user abuse. And it hadportals that were open for USB for other online activity, that it was too open to fraud. And so
36:16on the Texas Secretary of State website, there's this four-page document where an assistantattorney general in Texas says, I recommend that we don't use this because it's too open tomanipulation and fraud. Okay, so Texas said, this is fishy. We don't want to use these machines,but these machines were used in how many states? Right now.we're looking at, you know, upwards of possibly 38 states.Okay.This is unbelievable.I want to ask you, Jenna, and you probably can't say anything specifically because you
36:51work with the president, you're on his legal team.But what I said the other day is that when you, I guess I put it on my Twitter,when you notice six states suddenly stopping the count, it was bizarre.I mean, anybody with a brain.You don't have to be a genius.You say, that's weird.I've been following elections for quite a while.That's really bizarre.
37:15What just happened?And then you say, well, it looks like this is a conspiracy.We know that this kind of thing doesn't just happen in six states.So if somebody made a decision that if things are going this way, we stopped accounting,you kind of have to ask, who was in the room when?that conversation happened. Who are the people? Who are the leaders that had that conversation? That istreasonous. It is beyond belief that that happened. That information is going to come out. We'll be right back,folks, talking to Jenna Ellis. Folks, welcome back to Sierra Tech to Show. I'm talking to Jenna Ellis.
38:30Jenna, you are with the campaign. You are with Team Trump. You are in the middle of this. I was just asking the bigquestion, the big question, if any of this was planned, and unfortunately it looks like it was,it wasn't just kind of like random glitches and random corruption, but that somehow behind all of this,there were some high-level people saying, here's some of the things we're going to do.If we get to actually see who those people were, this is going to be the scandal of the century.I mean, no kidding.It can't rock the nation as far as who.always involved the ties that they had where this was coming from. We are still uncovering that
39:13information. And, you know, Sydney Powell and Rudy Giuliani, you know, some of my colleagueswho are on this case are working diligently around the clock on this. And you're going to seesome of these lawsuits very soon. And so, you know, these are things that we're going to get to thebottom of. And, but, you know, I want to go back to what you said in the prior segment about, you know,how this is more widespread of use than just the six states that we're looking at for recounts.And you know, you're seeing a lot of pushback from people saying, well, if Dominion votingsystems were in a state that Trump won, what's your beef? Well, this is where they're so savvy,right? Because you don't need all of those states. And that would, of course, be incredibly fishy.
39:58if a really, really red state that, you know, that Trump knows that he's going to win like Tennessee orAlabama or, you know, something that we just, we always know goes to the Republican side. If that somehowwent to Joe Biden, then everyone would be questioning. So they're trying to then push this off and say,hey, look, that was fine. But think about it. If you're somebody who's manipulating it,all you have to do is push up Biden enough and tamper down the votes for the president,like some of these, what they're trying to call glitches,with 6,000 votes being taken away from Trump,6,000 given to Joe Biden in certain key counties,
40:37that they're doing it on a widespread enough levelto have an outcome, a determinative impact,but they're doing it to try to fly under the radarso it doesn't look as suspicious.So this is why we have to have these forensic audits.We have to look at exactly what happened,and we have to make sure that there are no statesthat will certify
40:58the election results until we know exactly what happened. And if Joe Biden and the Democrats werereally concerned about truth and fact finding and they want to know, and they actually want to knowthe truth here and get to the bottom of this, they would be okay with that. They would be okay withsaying, wait, this is not the American system. We agree. Every legal vote should count. And we want tomake sure that if we win, we do so legitimately. But they're not saying that. I mean, I saw onTwitter today. Joe Biden now has a Office of Presidential Election Transition Team that's a verifiedTwitter account. I mean, this is how deep the deep fake is. And even on Facebook, on Twitter,on all of the big tech, and including all of the mainstream media outlets, the New York Times,
41:44Washington Post, all these people, they are trying to push this narrative that Joe Biden islegitimately the president-elect and just ignore everything else and ignore what is rapidlybecoming one of the greatest scandals in American history.There's no question about it.They are scared to death.That's why they're pushing the phony transition.I think many of them are afraid that if the truth comes out, they will be transitioningto jail.
42:14And I can't believe that I'm serious, except I know that I'm serious.This is so ugly and nasty.We're going to keep you into the second hour.Jenna, don't go away.Ladies and gentlemen, don't go away.
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