The Eric Metaxas Show - Doug Giles (Encore)

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

Doug Giles has a new book that's perfect for the times in which we live: "John the Baptist: A Rude Awakening Precedes a Great Awakening"; plus, our weekly installment of Ask Metaxas!

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I wub, vanilla. I wub, I wub, wab, vanilla. Here comes Eric Metaxus. It's the time of the week, Albin. Yes, it is. We call this segment Ask Metaxus every Thursday, the beginning of hour two. People write in with questions, and you ask them to me, and you're the voice of the people, the Vox Populi, and I try to answer them, so let's see what we have.

Okay, the first question, what are you most interested in talking about with Michael Medved at Socrates in the city? Are you excited to be in Seattle? Yes, that's tomorrow. We are doing a special Socrates in the City with Michael Medved. I guess this is my cue to say, if you want to watch it live, you can watch it live. We're live streaming this. People have often said, like, will you live stream it? Well, now we're live streaming it.

It costs a little bit for us to do that. So we hope you'll avail yourself of it. You go to Socratesandcity.com. You've got to sign up soon because 45 minutes before the actual event is too late. but I'm interested in talking to him about the subject of his book, The American Miracle. It is going to be, I promise you, I rarely, I'm not a big reader. People think I'm a big reader. But when I read books like this, I am blown away.

I'm talking about his book, The American Miracle. Miracle story after miracle story in the rise of America. It's basically unbelievable. You just say this can't be, but then when you realize that it's true, you think God has had his hand on America. It makes no sense. So it's really amazing. Anyway, Socrates and the city.com. Yeah, great.

And Ann and I are going to be watching because the subway does not stop in Seattle. So we're going to watch from here. That's right. Okay. What do you think about- Because of budget cuts. They shut it down. You used to go to Seattle.

Go ahead. Okay. Why do you think Biden is so determined to run again, even though voters from both sides are calling for a new candidate. Well, you know, I've talked to political experts, super experts who have said, if you know Joe Biden, Biden is very, very ambitious and loves power. Now, you don't need to be a political expert to know that. Anybody with eyes to see knows that he's sold his soul for a mess of pottage. And he wants his precious, just like that. like Rupert Murdoch. He wants his precious. So I don't think he can bear the thought of not running again.

He doesn't care what the American people think. And he doesn't care what his handlers think. His handlers are thinking, eh, let him make his announcement. And we'll take care of that. The Hunter Biden scandal, all of these scandals, I don't believe he will finish his term, much less run again. I think they've already figured out or figuring out who will replace him. And whether it's Susan Rice or Margaret Sanger or Gavin Newsom. I was just going to say that. Or the Marquis de Sade or somebody like that. So I kind of find it the whole thing is comical if you're paying any attention.

It's just utterly preposterous. Nobody thinks that he and Kamala Harris are, you know, worth rerunning. So I just think he is a power grasping, you know, a power grasping political hack. And we'll see what happens. Okay. Do you know anything about Don Lemon being fired from CNN? What?

What's the big network? What are the big networks? It looks like the big networks are clearing ranks. Yeah, that's what it looks like. Looks like. But I don't think that's the case. I think that they're opportunists. I think that the Tucker thing is a separate issue.

and that CNN knew, they've known for a long time, they've got to get rid of Don Lemon. And maybe they figured when we find out that the Tucker News gave them an opportunity to kind of slip it in there. So it kind of got muddled and it couldn't get, you know, full-time coverage. So, no, Don Lemon, I have to say, I met him once. And he once was a reasonable man. We would disagree. but he was reasonable. The election of Trump made him utterly unhinged,

and he got more and more unhinged and crazy, and his performance, I think I was talking to somebody about this the other day, that when he would be on the air with his co-host, because then they gave him this morning show, the co-host, this woman, was just physically, unbelievably uncomfortable. It was obvious that she was writhing as he spoke to Vivek Ram's way or whatever his name was. I mean, she was, clearly his days were numbered.

So how about, who cares? Let's move on. Okay. What has been your favorite place to speak in the past year? I don't, I don't have an answer for that because there are so many places that have been delightful. One that stands out, I spoke, I was in North Carolina, and I spoke at an event for the concerned Moravians. I believe that's online, but it was one of the most anointed special events. It was really, really beautiful. But I have had many, many special events. The other day I spoke in Atlanta

at a crisis pregnancy center. A thousand people in a ballroom fundraiser. It was particularly special. But I almost hesitate to single these out because there have been so many that have been, And each is special in a different way. God meets me at the podium, and I am genuinely blessed, honored, privileged, humbled to get to speak at these places. And as most people know, this Sunday, I'm speaking in Anchorage, Alaska. You can check out the details at ericmetaxis.com. Yes. Okay.

I'm a huge fan of your books. think you'd ever write another biography? Let me think about that. No. Okay. No, seriously, I doubt it. Because I've gotten so busy that I wasn't even going to write the one on Luther. Somebody kind of twisted my arm and I kind of thought, oh, and of course, in retrospect, you know, I do these things as prayerfully as possible because writing a book is a big deal.

You don't just want to, hey, hey, I got an idea, write a book. but I don't know that there's anybody out there who needs to have a biography written about him or her where I would put my, you know, set my face like Flint to do that job. But if I had like tons of time, I would do that. But there's so many projects where, you know, we want to take Is Atheism Dead and my book,

if you can keep it, we want to turn those into streaming video series. There's so many projects and things that we've got cooking that writing biography is just, it would really have to be something that I knew I had to do. And I don't, so I don't think so. Okay. Another Socrates question, thank you for setting up.

Socrates' live streams. I've watched the past two live streams and have been very happy. I heard you say that this one in Seattle is at an historic hotel. What makes that hotel historic? It's the Arctic Club. So this is literally tomorrow. Yeah, the live stream is tomorrow. It's at the Arctic Club.

By the time you hear this broadcast, I will probably already be at the Arctic Club. It is a hotel that was created as a, like a gentleman's club around 1914, a lot of men who made money in the Yukon Gold Rush, settled in Seattle and created the Arctic Club. And it has this extraordinary flavor to it. The building has walrus heads carved on the outside. It's just one of these, you know, the kind of thing that I did. When I first saw it, this is like, I think 11, 12 years ago,

I visited somehow I ended up there. And I was like, this is amazing. What is this? Somebody turned it into a hotel. It's so cool. They have this bar on the ground floor where we're going to have the reception. And it's called the polar bar. and it has this gigantic polar bear.

I mean, it's just the whole thing. So that's, you know, if I'm going to Seattle, I'm staying at the Arctic Club Hotel. Yeah, I personally would like to see some of that in the live stream. Hopefully they'll swing the cameras around and see some wall results on the wall. Don't you worry, never fear. Okay, this last one, let's get to it. Can you explain why since the beginning of time when a person is happy, their lips bend upward, and when they're sad, their lips bend downward?

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LegacyPMinvestments.com. Check it out. Hey, folks. Welcome to the program. I am really excited today to introduce some of you to a friend of mine. We've been friends for a long time. His name is Doug Giles, G-I-L-E-S. He has a another amazing book out. This one's called John the Baptist. A rude awakening precedes a great awakening. And it's kind of funny because Doug emailed me the other day that he's got this new book out. I immediately told Albin, we got to get him on the program. And no sooner did I do that. Then out of the blue, I get a text from the head of TBN himself, my friend Matt Crouch, who doesn't know that I know Doug. And he says, have he seen this book?

this would be great for your program. And I'm like, absolutely. So right now, here he is. My friend, Doug, Giles, Doug, welcome. Eric, how are you doing, Big Dog? There's nobody like you. You're unique. And you are hard to sum up.

It's one of the reasons you're unique. You're a hunter. I see there are animals behind you stuffed trophy animals that you have hunted. You've been a pastor. You've written a million books. Your new book is about John the Baptist. A Rood Awakening precedes a Great Awakening. Let's start there.

What do you mean by A Rood Awakening precedes a Great Awakening? Yeah, so, you know, revival and awakenings have been going on last few months here in the United States of liberal acrimony. And everybody's, you know, coming to me like, Doug, what do you think about Asbury? What do you think about what's going on at Baylor University and these other enclaves where, you know, rebates? where, you know, revival, quote-unquote, is going down, and awakenings are happening. And, Eric, I don't want to come and, you know, rain on anybody's parade. I'm more interested in the Reformation aspects of moves of God instead of, you know, the poof, the revival aspects.

Okay, that's, listen, this is the good news. I'm tracking with you. We haven't discussed this, but you're saying what I'm thinking. So keep going. This is beautiful. Yeah, so when I think we ought to, you know, be limited and careful with the word revival. Yeah. And so we've got to see if it is a legitimate sovereign work of God.

And when I say a sovereign work of God, that means the school can't shut it down after a month. Yeah, you know what? I will tell you, that that upset me that Asbury did that. They misplayed that. I do think it's a sovereign act of God. I think things are happening. When you have places like the New York. York Times and others actually reporting on it.

That's crazy because they never report on this kind of stuff. I think the point, I believe the point you're making and what I've been thinking is that this has to be only the beginning. This has to be only the beginning. It has to lead to everything else. Yes, so here's what I look forward. So I've studied revival in Western Europe all around the world, the church in China, the first and second great awakening here in the United States.

United States. But the ultimate great awakening was the arrival of the person and the ministry and the works of Jesus Christ. I know that sounds silly, but that's the ultimate awakening. So what I do is I look into, you know, what preceded it? What's the telltale sign that God Almighty is a foot, and this is his work, and this is exalts him, and this is going to revolutionize, you know, this third rock from the sun. And so one of the things that is spot welded to the incredible greatest awakening, the arrival of the chief dragon slayer himself, Jesus Christ, was that there was this little critter with a terse message named John the Baptist

that was spot welded with that event. And I tell people today, it's like, you want Jesus in your life? You want Jesus in your church? You want Jesus in your family, in your country? Embrace yourself for John. And that's what I'm really not seeing yet. Eric is the spirit of Elijah and the message of repentance, the confrontation of sin in the person, in bad religion, in political parties. That's represented John.

I'm not hearing dilly squat about the wrath of God. I'm not hearing anything about coming judgment. And I'm not hearing a lot of people say, if you don't produce fruit, I'm going to put this axe. to the root of the tree. And so the Bible in Malachi and Isaiah, and then in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, they all spot well Jesus with John. And so there's this synthesis of this rough, rude, obtuse message

coming from a character, Eric, that no pastoral search committee on this planet, especially in the sassy and oh so-prissy, evangelical la la land. None of them would give John the pulpit, none of them would give him a high-five. None of them could stomach his message. And yet God the Father and his amazing love said,

you know what? Who can we get to be the MC of the greatest event in human history? And he goes, boom, weird John. That is so beautiful. That is so apt. It is so utterly true. I mean, it gets back to, we mentioned it yesterday. You know, you're always joking around.

You're a kitty cat. And the fact is, you know, You know, in my book letter to the American Church, I write about this, this idea of tame religion, domesticated religion. So when, you know, the kids ask in the Narnia Chronicles, is Aslan a tame lion? It's like, no, he's not tame. He is wild, but he's good. But it's a kind of goodness that should scare you because it goes up against evil, which is evil.

Evil is not bad. It is evil. It is satanic evil. And you need a warrior spirit to go against that. And that's what you talk about almost every time you come on this program is it's not about safe religiosity. It's not about doing church in a nice, neat way. It's about something wild and beautiful and bold and true. And that is the spirit of Elijah. And that's why you wrote this book about John the Baptist, because John the Baptist was that kind of a figure. You're exactly right. There's no way he would be invited into the pulpits of most megachurches in the United States of America, which is very sad, but true. Yeah. And again, you know, God inextricably linked John the Baptist with Jesus Christ. And here's what's funny because people think, well, you know, John the Baptist, he was rough, you know, he was rougher than grandma's breath. And then here came sweet and cuddly 7-pound 13-ounce baby Jesus.

You know, when Jesus asks his disciples, he said, who do men say? say that I am. And they said, well, some say you're Elijah, some say you're Jeremiah, some say you're John the Baptist. So Elijah, Jeremiah, and John the Baptist were about as cuddly as a cactus, Eric. And the way that Jesus popped off, the way that he ministered, the way that he stood stalwart and forthright against demonic foes and Satan himself, that's not little sweet Jesus. And again, they compared him. to John the Baptist. I think we're completely missing, Eric, and I hope to God, man, that there's video in heaven, because I would love to see John the Baptist get on a roll when he's standing there

in this little muddy creek, and he's got thousands of people in front of him. I would love to see that man preach and compare it to the emasculated little sermonettes that the pastors, like you said, that are lame, that are effeminate, that love skinny jeans and big screens and smoke. machines. I'd love to see a comparison and contrast between the way that John popped off and the way that these popin jays preach now and day. Strutting popin jays, all of them, martinettes in their own little kingdoms. Hey, listen, I'm talking to my friend Doug Giles. I just love talking to you, Doug, because you tell it like it is, as we used to say back in the 60s. John the Baptist was a maniac by today's standards. He was a wild man. We're not saying that. Jesus was a wild man, but even Jesus was not as

wild a man as John the Baptist. There was something about him that was extremely raw. He wore crude clothing. He ate locusts. He was a wild man, but people saw in him utter authenticity. Whatever it was that they were hearing from the manicured scribes and Pharisees, they were not hearing from the wild man, John. Yeah, and that's beautiful. And people like, well, you know, it really wouldn't work today. It didn't work back then. That's not normal for people to have some critter like John show up out of nowhere,

just fresh from the University of Earth, Wind, and Fire. You know, 30 years, Erica, of isolation. and then just boom, here comes Lenny Kravitz, eating bugs, and talking mad smack to all the Christian influencers on Instagram. Nobody's prepped for that. But you know what? Jesus said, of all the prophets, Samuel, Moses, Abraham, everybody, the whole litany of the Hall of Faith, he said, nobody is greater than John the Baptist.

And so what we see is obtuse and weird, and he's too rough. and, you know, he looks strange, and his diet's strange. Jesus said that's the greatest of all the Old Testament prophets right there. And that's the person that God said, John, you're a special boy. We need you for three, four years. Yeah. You know, have you ever thought about writing a book on John the Baptist? When we come back, I'd like to talk to you about that very book.

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Yeah, my neighborhood is Doug Jiles.org.org. So you'll find everything. Doug J-O-U-G-G-I-L-E-S dot org. Folks, check it out, Doug Jolls.org. Okay, Doug, you've written a book on John the Baptist. In a sense, what made you write a book about John the Baptist? Because, you know, a lot of us feel like we've heard a lot about him, but I can't think of a book about him that I have known.

So what was your thinking behind this? Yeah, I think it's the revelation. And again, some of you guys like, duh, Captain Obvious, but everybody's talking about, you know, Jesus and love, and we need more of Jesus. And then the Holy Spirit is really highlighted to me, you know, in the Gospels and in the book of Malachi, which is the only Italian prophet in the Old Testament.

Correct. I see Jesus and John just, you know, inextricably coupled together. And the message that John brought, again, Eric, you've been to a gazillion churches. You preach all over the planet. I travel a little bit. I go here and there and I hear sermons online. I don't hear diddly squat about repentance. I don't hear anything about sin.

I'm talking about sin, sin, not like, well, you have an addiction and you have a problem. and you know, and you're dealing with something right now. John brought it up. Sin, the wrath of God, the judgment of God. Better bear fruit, man. Or God's going to cut your tree down. You don't hear anything like that. I don't hear diddly squat.

It's funny. I mean, a lot of times when I speak, there's a little diddly squat, but a lot of what you're talking about, because I do say in the book, Letter to the American Church, I'm quoting Bonhoeffer preaching like this, that the axe will be laid to the root. Do you understand the coming judgment? Do you understand?

I also talk about, and because this is what you're talking about, Jesus cursed the fig tree. He didn't say, no, now a little fig tree, you can do better. I'll be back to check up on you. He cursed the fig tree and it withered. And there are churches in America today that are being cursed by, Jesus, they are withering. They are dying because they refuse to produce the fruit for which he installed them in the first place. And those churches that are bearing fruit are growing. It's an extraordinary thing. It's happening in America right now. I see it because I get to speak in so many

different places around the country that the churches that have been heroic and that have been effectively doing what you're saying are exploding because the hunger has never been keener for this kind of straight talk from pulpits. I agree, man. I think there's a famine in the land. And I believe wholeheartedly that the anti-woke pastors that are, you know, just stumbling along, trying to be faithful to the Lord. I think they're going to get a fresh anointing. As you said, they're going to, you're going to see growth because that's what God's behind.

He's not behind all this stuff where you're trying to, you know, parlay some hip and cool, groovy Jesus that's down with your lifestyle. And he has no commandments written in stone. They're written in sand. and you can amend them if you want. And that's another reason, man, that I wrote this book. Because Eric, I wanted to encourage the prophets out there that could be hiding in caves or could be more frustrated than Donald Trump at a Nancy Pelosi lingerie party. And they're feeling like there's no place, you know, to find a home to preach at.

Yeah. I'm calling them out to speak out. Speak your mind. Speak your heart. If you smell, you know, crap on, you know, some church and it's glide path and you're its member and you're doing it in love, you need to say something. I mean, it's like during the whole COVID crisis. It's like, hey, pastor, why are you shutting your church down? Why are you obeying Mayor McChese instead of the Lord Jesus Christ?

And you and I talked about that in 2020, 2021, and we were right. And now all the science and all the data backs us up, that all that stuff that was- Did you say Mayor McChese? I just want to be very, very clear for my audience in case that didn't come across. You can use it. That's very funny. That is so beautiful. Well, listen, Doug, listen, you and I, we're not simply trying to upset people.

We're trying to encourage people. We're trying to emboldened pastors and Christian leaders. Hey, it's okay if you got it wrong as long as you repent. As long as you see, whoops, I got it wrong. need to get it right. The time is short. So when I say what I say, and I know when you say what you say, we're trying to emboldened pastors in my book, Letters to the American Church. I'm not writing it, you know, just to get people angry or just to sell books or just to get people to agree with me. I'm trying to reason with people. And that's what you're doing in this book about John the Baptist.

You're saying, hey, ladies and gentlemen, this is John the Baptist. This is not some hazy character we don't know about. This is the man who opened the door to the ministry of Jesus and of whom Jesus utterly approved. In fact, that's putting it too mildly. He lauded him as the greatest prophet until that time. I mean, it's an amazing, amazing thing, but it's not a message we're hearing, thanks to you. We're hearing it today. When we come back, we will hear plenty more about it. Folks, you need to visit Doug Giles.org.

It's G-I-L-E-S, Doug Giles.org. You need to get a copy of John the Baptist. A Rood Awakening precedes a great awakening. Give it to your pastor. Our pastors need to be encouraged. They need to be told, if you don't get this, I'm finding another church because this is serious. This is serious. Folks, I'm thrilled to continue talking to my friend.

I almost said John the Baptist. You are a type and shadow of John the Baptist, Doug Giles. Can that work in retrospect? You have written a book called John the Baptist. A rude awakening precedes a great awakening. And you pull no punches because you're telling the truth about who John the Baptist was, what a wild man he was. And it is kind of amazing how lost this is in the American church today. I keep talking about the parallels to Germany in the 30s.

Everybody was being nice. Everybody was afraid to get political. Everybody was afraid. I don't want to offend somebody in my congregation. and because of that spirit, which ultimately is Antichrist, because of that spirit masquerading as niceness, and we don't want to color outside the lines, we want to be nice, religious people.

That opened the door to hell on earth. And if you want to open the door to heaven on earth, you need to take a page out of the story of John the Baptist, which is why you wrote this book. So thank you for writing this book. So keep telling us about John the Baptist. Yes, so again, you know, you're talking about the lame aspect of today's preaching, and I call it effeminate. What I think is interesting, Eric, is in 1st Corinthians 6, 9 through 10.

Paul gives the church in Corinth an aggravated list of whopping no-nows like adultery, theft, reviling, I mean, just a gross laundry list. of transgressions, and he throws effeminacy right in there. It makes a differentiation between homosexuality and effeminacy. So I looked up the word effeminate, and it's the Greek word malacos. And Malacos, Eric, means to be soft, to be manageable, to be pliable, to be tame and tepid. And Paul said, and this is only a sin that a man can't commit, because a woman's supposed to be feminine. A man's not supposed to be feminine. And you look at the majority of the pastors out there with their sweetie little voices and the worship leaders with their hushed whispers. And I'm telling you,

man, I'm going nuts listening to this garbage. And then you got Paul the apostle said, if you come off like that, if you come off soft and tame and tepid and malleable and mild, If you come off like you're born to be mild instead of born to be wild, then you need to repent because that has dilly squat to do with my kingdom. And that's what I dig about John the Baptist, because this obtuse character, man, and we can, I've got an incredible furtive imagination. And I know you do as well. We're both artists.

We're both, you know, poets we think in pictures and stuff. I guarantee I can't even capture how far. freakish this young man was and he was God's special boy and he spot-welded him to the ministry and work of Jesus Christ. And I think, Eric, that there's a whole world of freaks out there that don't fit in, you know, to our little, you know, pro-clutch and religious evangelical mold that God's like, man, I love you. I love your idiosyncratic weirdness. I love your eccentricities. I love your fearlessness. I want to bring you to the forefront.

And I think they're going to start coming to the forefront, Eric, because it is such a time for business-as-usual Christianity to get burnt. And for us to really see a fresh fire, a true awakening that always is preceded, like I said in my book, by a rude awakening. And listen, I think it is happening because, as I said, the hunger has never been keener. There are people in America who maybe don't go to. church. But they're looking around and they're thinking the world is going insane. I don't need to be a conservative evangelical Christian to see that madness is afoot in the land. People are saying things that I flat out know aren't true. People are claiming that men and women are interchangeable, that there's no such thing as a man or as a woman or we can't say or that a man can become a woman. And even Christians

are kind of afraid to like weigh in on the most, it's very basic. It's God's design. It's very, very basic. So pagans are waking up and they're looking around. Is anybody willing to address this? Is anybody willing to address the lunacy that we see everywhere, that the idea of having a strong nation is a crazy racist idea? And you think, what are you talking about? Like it's basic. We have borders. I mean, there are all these basic ideas that are being challenged. And I believe revival and evangelism are coming to those people that they're looking around. Is anybody willing to notice that they're trying to redefine everything? And I'm not having it. I'm trying to raise my kids. I'm trying to make a buck, trying to be a good person. And the

world is going crazy. Who will speak for me? And there are John the Baptist figures out there. There are heroic pastors and Christian leaders. Much of the church is not that way. And I think people are voting with their feet, and they're going to hear those kinds of messages because they are that hungry. Yeah, you get pastors who are, you know, preaching Pablum in this incredible, you know,

day of declension here in the United States of liberal acrimony. And they're not doing what Paul said the minister is supposed to do in Ephesians 5. Ephesion 6, you've got to equip your congregation to stand in the evil day. And God's injunction to Ezekiel is like, Ezekiel, you're a watchman. And on your watch, if you see some stuff going down that's kittywampus to my commandments, and you don't warn the people and they get mowed down by the enemy, then I'm going to hold you accountable, Ezekiel. Their blood's going to be on your head. And what's funny is that when most people, Eric, when they, when they feel called to be a pastor, it's a job.

Ezekiel, it was a dread. John the Baptist, it was a holy dread that they had on them. Same thing with Paul. He said, what was me if I don't preach this? And I don't think a lot of pastors out there, Eric, forgive me. You know, I paint people in broad generalities. I don't think they're calling as a dread calling. because if it was, they would say whatever, to whomever, in love, of course, not like me,

and they would just let the truth write out. But instead, you know, they're putting their sword away, they're taming their sword, they're dulling its edge. But you get somebody like John the Baptist, you get cats like Ezekiel, Jesus. They don't give two flibberty gibets what whomever thinks. If it needs to be said, then they say it. And like you said, when that voice goes out, God's already got his elect, chosen, primed, ready to hear the voice of the Son of God and come online.

But it takes people with the Cahones to say what needs to be said and not back down one angstrom. Ladies and gentlemen, you need to get Doug Giles' book, John the Baptist, The Root Awakening, Proceeds a Great Awakening. Doug Giles, God bless you, my friend. Hey there, folks. People keep asking me. I think I said this yesterday. I don't know when I said it, but people say, Eric, how can we help you?

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And we're grateful to anybody who helps. So God bless you.