The Eric Metaxas Show - Doug Giles Says the Bible Endorses Hunting in His Latest Book: The Bible and Hunting

Episode Date: August 9, 2025

If a person looked to Scripture and paid particular attention to the passages within the Bible that address the topic of hunting, then they'd walk away thinking not only is hunting animals tolerated but it is endorsed by God.

Welcome to the Eric Metaxas show. Did you ever see the movie The Blobs starring Steve McQueen? The blood-curdling threat of The Blob. Well, way back when, Eric had a small part in that film, but they had to cut his scene because the blob was supposed to eat him. But he kept spitting him out. Oh, the whole thing was just a disaster. Anyway, here's the guy who's not always that easy to digest.

Eric the Texas! Welcome back, folks. continuing my conversation with Scotty Curley, which is about his book, losing the plot, how secular stories are rewriting our souls. Now, you teach a course at Liberty on this, but you have written the book. So who's the book for? For parents? For whom? Yeah. So I wrote the book on a necessity because I saw a need, and we are as parents, as students, we're not aware that this programming, how important it is, how it's affecting our minds, how we talk, how we act, how we feel.

And so I really wanted to bring more awareness with details, case studies. And that's the reason I wrote the book. I really want parents to understand and grandparents to understand. Listen, this content that the kids are getting, and it could be shows that seem very benign, may have worldviews that don't align with our Christian values. what scripture teaches. And we need to watch and we need to talk to our kids about this. And then we need to have courageous conversations. If you have a 16, 17 year old, watch the movies that they're watching and actually sit down and pull apart the agenda and say, hey, how does this compare to what

the Word of God says? Right? Because we're just taking this as entertainment and it's not entertainment. It's programming disguised as entertainment. It's the introduction of ideology. Now, the classic example of this, we've been seeing this for decades. It began in the late 70s when Billy Crystal played an openly gay character on soap. This is a billion years ago. But there was a book written in the early 80s called After the Ball where gay activists said we need to use the media to normalize homosexuality to America. Yeah. And I'll be the first to say, part of that.

that is okay in the sense that you don't want to be worldly on the other side where you're demonizing people as their, oh, they're freaks and their perverts. But it was a truly Christian worldview says, we are all broken. We're all sexually broken. So you own that. But what they did is they want to say, no, we want to say this is good. And so they started pushing it through the 80s. It was already strong in the 80s, but we've dealt with this for decades. And again, if it has helped people have compassion on somebody who is broken in that way. That's good. We should be praying for people, offering them solutions and help, but that's not what happened. And so most recently, at the Hollywood Bowl, they have a production of Jesus Christ Superstar with Jesus being played

by an openly gay woman, not making it up. What is her name? Cynthia Aerovo. So this is an openly gay woman playing Jesus. Judas is being played by an openly gay man. So they are pushing this and pushing this and pushing this. And there is no way that this does not affect people. There is no way. And how many people in the church, most recently we had Chip and Joanna Gaines normalizing a gay couple adopting kids on the show, whatever. It is infiltrated the church. And again, of course, we're supposed to be compassionate and loving, but we also have to be clear that this is not something we want to say to our kids.

Like, well, no, this is okay. It's not okay. There are going to be sweet people who are getting stuff wrong. We don't have to demonize people, but we have to be clear. Eric, you're absolutely right. I'm going to give you a quick case study. The highest grossing movie of all time, right? Right now is a movie called Avatar. But for a brief time, it was Avengers Endgame. It gross $2.8 billion in the box office.

Avengers Endgame. Avengers Endgame. I've skipped all these movies, but go ahead. Marvel Cinematic Universe. In the first 10 minutes of the movie, okay? You have major stars in a counseling session. It's a men's counseling session. And one guy goes, hey, you know what?

Last time I went on a date was five years ago. And another guy goes, yeah, yeah, you know what? Me too. I went again for the first time in five years last Saturday. He cried during the entree. I cried during the dessert. Okay. Now, 17, 18, 19 year old, we get that.

We know what they're pushing. We know they're normalizing. You're 12 and 13 year old. They're getting that and they're just being acclimated that, hey, they're nothing to see here. It's absolutely normal to be in a gay relationship with another man, right? Again, normalization through massive box office movies. That's what we're seeing. Nothing to see here, guys, this is normal.

We have to be here. Now, I got to say that there is hope, folks. We don't want to be naysayers completely because there has been a backlash. This has been, all of this stuff has been pushed so hard. Yes. That finally a lot of people got fed up. I mean, for me, the ultimate was about two years. ago, they were pushing Pride Month down our throats. And I said, excuse me, ladies and gentlemen,

I'm a Christian. I'm not down with this. And I don't like you shoving it down my throat. You're not shoving St. Patty's Day down my throat. You're shoving a month down my throat of something that I do not approve of, that I don't think is good. And I think this is enough. And so I began to push back. I saw that other people were pushing back. Part of that push where you just think they go too far is that this tortured dude named Dylan Mulvaney who pretends to be a woman was put on a can of Bud Light. And I thought to myself, okay, Anheiser Bush, you need to suffer for this. Like, you are shoving this bizarre character down the throats, in this case, literally

through the beer of America. Like, hey, it's Bud Light. there's nothing more normal than having a bud light and thinking it's okay for a dude to pretend to be a woman, I think that's where the backlash began in earnest. And so there has been a backlash where people say, listen, I get it. I want to be nice to people with whom I disagree, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them. Yeah. You're absolutely right. I think the other big mistake they made was they overtly went after the kids.

And these TV shows, they overtly went after the kids. And Mama Bear, Papa Bear said, you know what? I've had enough. I'm canceling that subscription. I'm going a different route. I'm going to let my money talk because I don't want this indoctrination to go on with my children. And I think that was a big tipping point as well. I think you're right.

And I know that a lot of films that Disney films that have really pushed this lunacy, have tanked and they have lost the people who made them millions and millions and millions of dollars. Most recently, the Superman film that was kind of pushing this like anti-American, you know, idea out there that, you know, it's about truth, justice and what, the way of the world, I guess, you know, instead of the American way. Wherever you turn, the Snow White film that came out recently, where the ingenue who started Snow White just went. on and on about how bad the 1937 Disney film was and how it reduces women to da-da-da-da-da. And most people thought, sorry, that's one of my favorite films.

That's one of the sweetest, most wonderful things Disney ever did. We're not going to see the new film. So something good is happening out there. Yeah, I think when we go back to traditional family values, the nuclear family and what scripture says, and we really evaluate the content that our kids are exposed to, And we have honest conversations. The needle's got to write, right? It's got to go back.

And really, it helps us to renew our mind. It helps us to have a biblical worldview. And the nuclear family is the foundation of a healthy society. Hebrews 412 talks about the word of God being sharper than any two-edged sword. That's what we need to use to really help our kids to understand, Hey, how does this content, right, affect our mind and our hearts? And what is the word of God said? We got to get back the ultimate truth here.

It's not your opinion. It ain't my opinion. It's the opinion of God. Exactly. The very foundation. We're at a time. Scotty Curley, a joy to talk with you, folks. The book is losing the plot, how secular stories are rewriting our souls,

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if you listen to this program, you know that I'm friends with a guy named Doug Giles. And occasionally, I will have him on this program. I always enjoy it. For example, here he is. Doug Giles.

Welcome back. Eric, how you doing big dog? I tell you, you kill me, man. You write a lot of stuff, and we talk about it. And you have now written the book, which is like the apotheosis of Doug Giles. It's a book called the Bible and hunting, and you're holding it in your hand, the Bible and hunting on the cover. It looks like you

about to dress out a deer or something. Yeah, that's an access buck. And they're originally from India and Nepal. And they're thriving in the United States, especially in Texas and Florida. and you know what? The hunters did that. The hunters are the ones that created game ranches and high fences. And it's got, it's premium venison, Eric, if you've never eaten an Axis buck. And not only are they just absolutely beautiful. And but their venison is mooey-tacey, big dog. And I think there's more now in Texas and Florida than there is in India. And we did the same hunters with the black buck antelope. and the Neil Guy Antelope and the Barbary Sheep, I'm looking at all of them in my man cave,

that hunters, because they put a premium on the pursuit of these animals and the stewardship of these natural resources, we're the ones who brought these animals from near extinction, and like the Cimitar orcs and the attics. I mean, again, that's all hunters. Cimitar what? Cimitar orcs. So it's a big, it's a big antelope.

It's sub-Saharan Africa. Again, almost shot out to extinction. And then the Texas game ranchers, the Wai Ranch in particular, they decided, you know what? We want to preserve this species. And their big, beautiful white antelope. And they've got like an orange rust-colored neck and face configuration. And then the cimitars, their horns are just these long, curved, beautiful horned antelope. And brother, I'm telling you, man, they are three.

thriving here. They're not thriving in Africa and those war-torn zones. But again, hunters did that. It wasn't pita. It wasn't some doe-eyed tree-humper. It was a hunter who put Sabam-to-Bambi that has caused the, you know, the elevation of these near-extinct. I think, ladies and gentlemen, Doug just said, do-eyed tree-humper. We're going to check on that for you. Now, listen, Doug, you've written a book, and you're just holding it up before, the Bible and hunting. What led you to write a book with the title the Bible and hunting. I know you love the Bible. I know you love hunting.

But what led you to write a book about the two? Yeah, so when I was living in the so sassy Miami-Dade County, and I was interfacing with a whole new group of Christians, Eric, that didn't hail from the Great Republic of Texas. A lot of them, man, they didn't hunt. They didn't fish. They love God. But then they would think, oh, you know what you're doing?

wrong. Oh, you preserving them in taxidermy? You know, that's, that's just, you know, chest thumping. And that somehow, you know, the scripture frowns upon hunting. And, man, I got that in tidal waves when we were living in South Florida. So, you know, being a Christian, I want an apologetic for not being apologetic about the grand pursuit of hunting and fishing. And so, man, I just started going through Genesis to Revelation, to see if there was one verse, Eric, one, that poo-poohed hunting. And what I found, and I knew it was there, but I really found it when I drilled down on it, is that hunting not only is tolerated, it's called in Genesis 9 a blessing to mankind after the floodwaters receded, and God blessed Noah and said,

you can eat whatever was on that ark, just as I've given you plants, I give you venison for your victuals. And so I just kept plowing through the scripture. You see, Eric, that the prophets and the poets, David in particular, they utilized hunting verbiage when they're talking about deliverance. David said, my soul escaped as a bird from the snare of the fowler. So unless God's, you know, just a bad communicator, he knew that utilizing, you know, hunting verbiage would speak to the people about what it means to be a recipient of his mercy and his grace and deliverance. So I tell, you know, after obviously I wrap this book, I challenge people. It's like, if you can show me one anti-hunting verse, in the entirety of the scripture,

I'll eat a tube sock because it's not there. Okay, so folks, a lot of you have friends that are hunters. you probably want to get them a copy of this book, The Bible and Hunting. I can just see it. This is a great gift book, Doug. Maybe you already thought of that, but I just think this is like the ultimate because so many people we have friends that are hunters. What do I get them? The Bible and hunting, they don't have a book on the Bible and hunting.

And if there is a book that touches on it, it certainly doesn't have a cool title like the Bible and hunting. But so let's get into it. why, I mean, I know that the table of contents is in front of me, and I want to ask questions based on it. Your first question, the first chapter has the title with a question, who killed the first animal according to the Bible? Okay. Who? I know. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

I have the answer. Can I say it? I got it. I got it, folks. You ready? Who killed the first animal? The Lord did. The Lord did.

because when Adam and Eve foolishly covered themselves with aprons made of fig leaves, the Lord said, no, no, no, no, no, to cover nakedness, to cover sin, blood needs to be shed. He shed blood and he covered them with skins. Did I get it right? Right on, man, 100%. I got it. And not only did he killed the first animal, but if you want to be like God, then you take the leather from the animal. I'm thinking it was a leopard because leopard print looks so beautiful.

And you turn it into haute couture. So you want to be like the Lord. You hunt animals. You utilize the leather and you make fancy clothes to cover naughty people. So the first, so the first clothes in the history of the world of which God approved was made from the skins of animals. Ladies and gentlemen, that's a fact. Look it up. It's in the first couple pages of the Bible. Send that note, Eric, send this video over to Pam Anderson and inform her that it wasn't faux leather. It wasn't. I don't have Pam Anderson's information, but I'll try to get it. But seriously, folks, that's so interesting. I mean, this is why I love talking to you, Doug, because, you know, we learn things that are kind of basic, but we didn't know them. Like what

you're just saying, and again, your book is the Bible in hunting, but first chapter, you get into this idea that that the first clothing ever made of which God approved was made with the skin of animals. Now, we don't know what animals, but that's just a fact, and that's in the scripture. That is really, so if anybody says, well, I don't think God approves of, you know, you wearing fur or leather or suede or whatever. Well, obviously, They haven't read Genesis. Yeah, they've got no biblical precedent for that because, again, it's there. And you have to, you know, take an exacto knife and extract it from Genesis and have your little

amputated Bible. If you want to eradicate, you know, the notion that wearing leather, wearing fur, it's okay. Not only is it okay, but God's the one who started that whole party. God started that whole party. Okay, so chapter two of your book, this is another classic Doug Giles title, chapter title, was Noah's Ark one big floating game ranch? Yeah, it's a wonderful story. Well, it's kind of also dreadful because God liquidated, you know, the planet's population

and stood up only Noah and his family after the floodwaters receded. But, you know, it's always pitched as, you know, this wonderful. children's menagerie and you know there's places in kentucky i think that's got a life-size arc and it's just absolutely amazing story but according to genesis nine one through six god told noah it's like all these animals that that you got on board we'll pull out your salt and pepper because you can eat them and so god established in genesis chapter nine uh that you don't have to be a vegan anymore you You don't have to, you know, pursue edamami beans and baby carrots and spinach that you can shoot that giraffe. You can skin it.

You can eat it. Do whatever you want to do with it. And that's the covenant that he reestablished with Noah and mankind going forward. So from a, from a hunter standpoint, that floating zoo is nothing but a Texas game ranch, man. Now, I've never had a giraffe burger or a giraffe sausage. I'm not really aware of people eating giraffe meat. We're going to go to a break here, but folks, when we come back, I'm going to ask about giraffe meat and a lot of other crazy stuff.

But the book, I think you want to copy this book, and if you know any hunter and you're looking for a gift, Doug Giles, G-I-L-E-S is the author of the Bible and hunting. Who does want to copy that? Welcome back talking to my friend Doug Giles. It's spelled G-I-L-E-S. He has a brand new book called The Bible and Hunting, which I'm going to go out on a limb here, deals with the Bible and hunting. Am I right about that?

Yeah, man. It's crazy how you connected those dots. Well, that's what I do. And I, before we went to the break, you were talking about, you know, Noah kind of pulling up the arc, letting the animals off, and then killing them. and eating some of them. And you mentioned the giraffe. And now I just want to ask you, because I know you've hunted all kinds of exotic animals,

but what is the most exotic animal you've eaten? Have you ever, I've never heard of anyone eating giraffe. Yeah, I shot a giraffe in Zimbabwe in 2013 in the Metesi hunting block. And so this giraffe was an old, ancient, melanistic bull. I don't know if you know what a melanistic bull is. I've never heard of melanistic. Yes, so it's nearly black, man.

Like his spots weren't brown and his coat tan. His spots were black. And the in-between spaces of his coat were dark brown. And so that's a treasure animal. And so I shot him. And what's interesting because people's like, that's so mean. It's like, you know what's mean? Watch a Pride Alliance.

pull a giraffe down and eat him from his rear end forward while he's still alive. The giraffe that I shot Eric, it had scar tissue that was hard as a toilet lid on his belly where the lions and the hyenas and the wild dogs had been getting after him for over 20 years. We guesstimated his age around 20 plus, but just an ancient bull, barely any teeth left in his head. he had he had he had sewn all of his seed to all the female giraffes so it was done essentially except for a brutal uh god awful death inflicted by mother nature who we all know she can be a you know what rhymes with which well it's funny because most people wouldn't think of that and i'm glad you brought that up that basically um you know taking an animal like that down with with a

bullet or two uh is an infinitely better way for that animal to go, then as you just put it, to be torn apart by the teeth and claws of animals that are in a hurry to eat you. And they're not really checking to see if you have a pulse when they start eating. So it's pretty horrifying. Now, how big was this giraffe? How tall? Oh, my gosh, man. We didn't put a tape to him. But when we did the end of the safari pitcher, Eric, so I'm like 5-11. And my wife and I are standing in front of the hide that's stretched up. And so it's minus a lot of the neck hide. So we're just talking about pretty much the body hide. And it's well over twice, you know, our hide. I mean, that's that's amazing.

So you've, man, they're a pachyderm. Their skin is super thick. I mean, it's, it's like that, you know, and it's just, I mean, they're not actually pachyderms, but they're like pachyderms, is what you're saying. They got them thick hide. And the one that I shot, it had these, these massive, modules on the bridge of its nose where it had been fighting other bulls for breeding dominancy. And it's just a warhorse, man. But again, you know, like I said, we only shoot, like I'm a trophy hunter, which means everybody's like, well, that's so bad. It's like, no, I'm going for the oldest that has, you know, been driven from herds. He's not breeding that much anymore. Most of them, Eric, are toothless, you know, and so we go in there and we take them out because,

again, they've done what they've needed to do, you know, whether it's a deer or an alope or, you know, anything like that, Cape Buffalo, you know, always gun for the... But what is the most exotic thing that you've eaten or what are some of that? You've not, I assume you've never eaten giraffe meat. Yeah, we ate the giraffe meat. And here's, here's something that's, and it's, it's not that great. It's not that bad. I mean, it's meat. And we, I got so much hell when I was still on Facebook before they banned me for life from this girl again, from Miami. Oh my God, how dare you shoot a giraffe? Again, not knowing the backstory and not knowing what we're going to do with that giraffe.

Once we got it down on the ground started skinning it, we fed hundreds, if not thousands of people, low fat, high protein, Ted Nugent, yumbiness with that giraffe. And it was disseminated. as we were driving through the Metetsi hunting concession where we were where we were on safari you could see hut after hut drying the giraffe meat that they all came to pick up out in the middle of nowhere and I asked again the doe-eyed you know weepy weepy tree hump or girl when's the last time you fed you know I don't know 2,000 pounds of again high protein low-fat food at your expense to people who, you know, are eating dung beetles and, you know, some kind of maze-type gruel. I mean, we fed, again, I can still see it. Myn's eye, man. Hutt after hut after

hut had a ton of a gruel gyrky or Bill Tong as they call it hanging up, drying in the breeze. So in the Bible, I mean, whenever somebody says the title of your book is the Bible and hunting. And again, folks, this is make a great get, Doug didn't tell me to say this. I'm just telling you. I think it would be a great gift for a hunter in your life, the Bible and hunting. So chapter three is about Nimrod. Now Nimrod, as soon as you say the Bible and hunting, I think of Nimrod. So what do you have to say about Nimrod? Who was Nimrod? Yeah, so when I first got saved, you know, I'm, you know, three teeth, knock you of 50. I don't know anything about the scripture. And I was into hunting and I was around a lot of

Woosies at church that weren't into hunting, and they started nicknaming me Nimrod, like it was some kind of bad moniker to fly under. And so, you know, supposedly Nimrod went off the rails and built some, you know, evil, ancient city Babylon or something like that. But from a purely biblical standpoint, and Eric, there's four times that Nimrod's mentioned in the scripture, and none of it is pejorative. It just says, hang on. Just go into a good. going to a break. We're talking to the author of The Bible and Hunting. Welcome back, folks, talking to my friend Doug Giles, G-I-L-E-S. The title of his book, Are You Ready? The Bible and Hunting. I cannot help but think that a lot of people are buying

this book as gifts for their hunters and their family. What a great idea. What a great idea for a book. Yeah, thank you. I just checked right before we came on air, and it's only been out like a week and it's number one in hot new releases in animal care. It's number three. Animal care. Animal care. I like that. Okay.

So what else do you say in the book about hunting? Yeah, so going back to Nimrod, you know, everybody's like, oh, you're a Nimrod because you'd, you know, hunt. And, you know, there's evil connotations because of what he, you know, did. But it's not written in the scripture. So it's not to me, I'm just using the Bible as my. my, you know, source of information. So all it says is that Nimrod was a mighty hunter before God. And so the people try to twist it like he's, you know, shoving hunting in God's face. But that's

not the connotation where it says, David, same verbiage, David dance before the Lord. And so David isn't doing dirty dancing before God. He's just, he's just doing it in his presence. I just got to say this, you just remind me as something that I, that I used to talk about more often. when I wrote my Bonhofer book, if you read the Bonhofer book, you will notice several times, I mention the fact that Adolf Hitler, are you ready?

Was a dedicated vegetarian. Not kidding. Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian. So, you know, if you're going to do that thing, like, well, he did some bad stuff. Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian folks. And he owned a dog. So, you know,

I don't think it means you shouldn't be a dog owner. But I just think the fact that he's a vegetarian is very interesting. Yeah, have you ever read the book? And I hate to mention somebody else's book when I'm plugging my book. But there's another book called The Vegetarian Myth. And I can't remember the girl's name. But, you know, she's anti-hunting, you know, just total down the funnel vegetables only. And her doctor said, listen, if you don't eat a Big Mac, you're going to die.

So she was like in her early 40s. And she looked like Skeletor, like she's like 70, you know, plus 80 years old. And so she did a complete reversal on her stance about meat eating. And she spotlighted in the vegetarian myth that hunting and game meat, if you're going to, you know, park your meat truck somewhere, that's the best stuff on the planet, you know, avoid the process, poison stuff that you get at H.E.B. Okay, by the way, chapter nine of your book, I like this.

The chapter nine says, David's confidence that he could kill Goliath came from killing apex predators. Now that is also true, absolutely. Yeah, you see, David, when he's talking to Goliath and he's talking to, you know, the scared pastoral committing that they're on the rim of the Valley of Ila, he said that his confidence that to kill Goliath and serve him up to the birds came from killing a lion and a bear with his bare hands. You know, people say, Doug, do you have any problem with what the Bible says? And I was like, yeah, I have a problem with that. Because I've been, I got a lion right here. You've seen him before.

And I've got a, I've got a 10-foot grizzly bear in this corner. For a young, 16-year-old Jewish kid to kill an apex predator, like a flipping lion and a bear. Now, if it was a cub, I could see it. But if it's a mature animal, man, I'm telling you what? I want video proof of that when I get to heaven because I would love to see that tussle. But again, David's confidence, man, was I've done it. The Lord showed up for a lion. The Lord showed up for a bear.

God's going to show up and I'm going to take your head off with your own sword. Obviously, David used a sling. and if you're throwing a large stone accurately with a sling at the head of a bear, you know. But here's the caveat is that if they're undisturbed, if they're coming at you, you've got to have some gangster holy ghost anointing on that rock because you're not going to stop them. They move at 35 miles an hour unless you brain them. I mean, get inside their noggin, not just hit them in the head, but I mean, actually get in there.

and turn it into mush, they're going to be turned into bear or lion's scat. Uh-huh. Well, honestly, there's so much in the book. What else do you talk about? I like... I'll tell you one thing, Eric, that I think you'd like. Chapter 7, God's idea of interior design.

And so you've been to a ton of churches, and, you know, there's floral sprays, and there's cute, fat baby angel prints that look like they've got a good buzz going from their mother's milk that's been liberally mixed with Diet Coke and Nuprin. But when you look at the Tabernacle of Moses, man, and I don't know if we've talked about this before, but the Tabernacle of Moses, God's, first of all, the first two people that were filled with the Holy Spirit were artists, okay?

They weren't apostles, and they weren't prophets. They were artists. And so God fills these two dudes to come in there to trim out the Tabernacle of Moses. and one of the interesting things, oh, come on, one of the interesting things that he utilizes, sorry, so one of the interesting things that he utilizes is animal skins. So he tells the children of Israel, and they actually have these things, Eric, to get animal skins and put them in the tabernacle. So ram skins, porpo skins? Yes.

I have read this. porpois skins, ladies and gentlemen, man. Porpoise is a mammal. But that's, and there's all kinds of other animals, interesting animals mentioned in those passages. Yeah. Yeah. And statues of rams and lions. And again, this is God.

And I know that, you know, we're at the temple now. But I would like to see. Can you imagine, Eric, if there was a church, as soon as you walk into the foyer, there's a lion like you've seen. at my place. And it's, it's right there for everybody to behold. And underneath it, it says, the righteous or bold as lions. What kind of visual, you know, would that give off to people who walk in, you know, instead of, you know, having a kiosk with Starbucks or something? And God wanted to impress upon people, gravitas, beauty. And he said, listen, man, I'm going to need some deer peltz. I'm going to need a giraffe rug.

And again, I think it's just mind-blowing just how different he is compared to us. Well, that's why in your book you're taking us back to the Bible. We need to be reminded of this stuff, folks, badly. The title of the book is The Bible and Hunting. You've got to know some hunters in your life. Great gift, honestly, great gift. The Bible and Hunting, Doug Giles, G-I-L-E-S will be right back. Now they only blocks.

We're talking to Doug Giles. It's spelled with a G-I-L-E-S, Doug Giles. Doug, I'm obviously thrilled. You wrote this book called The Bible and Hunting. There's certain things that needed writing. And I think the book, The Bible and Hunting, it needed writing because it's kind of almost odd that there isn't a book about that. So congrats on thinking of it. Congrats on writing it.

What else have we, we haven't talked about chapter 11 in the book, which is titled, Rise, Kill, and Eat. Yeah, so that phrase comes from the Book of Acts, and Peter, you know, being Peter, he's after Pentecost, he's doing good, and then he gets derailed by Judaizer. It's like, ah, you got to have your foreskin lopped off, too, if you really want to please Jesus. And so God's got this guy named Cornelius that he's prime for the gospel. and so Peter's preaching circumcision and grace, you know, and so God's trying to get through to that knucklehead to go over to this Italian dude's house to preach the gospel to him and his family. So he puts Peter in a trance, and he lowers a sheet down and it's got all these animals, you know, that were according to Levitical law unclean.

And God tells Peter, rise, kill, and eat. And then Peter, again, being the dufous that he was, he said, I'll never eat anything unclean and God says, don't you call unclean what I've already cleansed? And he communicated the gospel of grace to the Gentile four skin-bearing Asia Minor peeps that they're accepted in the beloved too. And God did the message of, or communicated the message of grace through a hunting illustration. And again, I think that's indicative of the fact that they're very well acquainted with hunting and that God who is highly creative could have communicated the message of grace to the Gentiles to his rogue disciple Peter in any unimaginable type of ways, and he chose to do it

with the hunting illustration. And I think right after that, Peter come out of Blaston, but it doesn't say that in the scripture. It doesn't tell us everything in the scripture. But that is interesting that right there in Acts, you have to be a blastin. You have a lot of it. You have this picture where God says, arise, Peter, kill, and eat. And my late friend, the great Phil Robertson quoted that a lot. Of course, he's one of the great hunters of our time. And it is interesting how, you know, people who love God can love hunting. And like you, they really do have a respect for animals. This is, you know, that to me is what's so interesting, is that you have a knowledge of animals and you care about animals and what you were just sharing about that giraffe, the way

they would have died as opposed to the way that it died when you killed it, people don't often think about that. So I'm grateful for your reminding us that. We have less than a minute left. What can we say about your book, The Bible and Hunting that we haven't already said? Yeah, it's, you know, hunting season is on us now. And like you said, it's a great gift for people who. who are unashamedly hunters and anglers,

because obviously there's a ton of fishing in here as well. And it's good to have a biblical worldview on all things. And this is a cheeky book, but it's filled with information and entertainment. And Eric, the audio version, oh, my God. I did it. It's funny. And I listened to it the other day after I recorded it a year ago.

And I laughed so hard. Milk came out of my nostrils. And I haven't had milk for like 36 years. Wow. That is, that's very impressive. I didn't know there was an audio book. Now, now I know. There's an audio book.

So the audio is not, Amazon hadn't totally approved it yet. So the Kindle and the hardback are available. So we're going a little bit forth with the audio book. All right. But people can go to your website, Doug Giles, G-I-L-E-S, folks. Check it out.

We're at a time. Doug Giles, congrats on the book, The Bible and Hunting. Thank you, my friend. Thank you, brother. Have great week. I don't care what