The Eric Metaxas Show - Dr. Ben Carson

Episode Date: September 16, 2022

Dr. Ben Carson sets the record straight on Black history in America with his appearance in Larry Elder's power-packed documentary, "Uncle Tom II," available at SalemNOW.com.

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We talked to him now and again to find out what's going on in the financial markets. And suffice it to say, things are looking crazy. You may remember what happened in June 2020. That was a pandemic was going on. It was a nightmare. But just a few days ago, we had something equally crazy happen. So Charles Thorngren with Legacy, precious metals, what is going on? This is the world you live in.

And I'm glad that we can ask. you your opinion on this. Yeah, the great thing is that I enjoy doing these kind of figures and facts and things that other people don't like. I live for that. But it really comes down to this. The markets are saying they have no faith in the Fed. They have no faith in their policy for inflation.

The CPI was hotter than it should be. The what? The what? The consumer price index. Aha. The consumer price index was higher, you said? Yes. The inflation, they, last month, they were saying, we think we've broke inflation.

We've put the model in place. Does anybody believe that? Does anybody believe that? Listen, this is why I find this is why I want to talk to the expert, and I'm talking to you, Charles Thorngren, because I think your average person looks at the landscape and says, this is madness. We are printing money. It's like the Fed and company are trying to destroy America. I mean, if you don't know the details, you just look at it and you think, I wouldn't do this.

This doesn't seem like sound business practices to me. What are they doing? It seems like madness. The thing, too, is really what we have here is we have the Fed trying to camouflage the money grab by the current administration. The increased debt that we've done since President Obama has taken office is ridiculous, right? They're trying to blame inflation, not on the fact that we created all this debt, but on the fact that oil went up. But we also know that that was caused by shutting down the pipeline and making entire industry become afraid because you said, we're going to shut you down. So why would a company spend money on infrastructure and make things better when they're being told by the leader of the free world, I want to shut you down.

I want you out of business soon. So you create the oil piece of this whole campaign of destruction. Then you have people who aren't working, right? Then you have people who are getting free money because of the pandemic situation. So pointing to the fact that inflation is high doesn't help when you don't address the real issues. And that's the problem we have. So we have a chairman who's trying to, one, save his job. but also try to do what's right for America, but also not get involved in the game of politics.

It's an impossibility. They will turn around this next session and not officially say it, but they will raise again, anywhere from three quarters of a basis point, to one full basis point. Because what they want to do right now is not worry about you and I. They want to worry about the stock market. That's what they're there to protect, not their job, not inflation. Because here's the reality.

When you have four points drop off the Dow before the bad news even is felt, we know that that market is in trouble. So people in the know understand that it looks terrible. It's why the market plummeted. What exactly was the drop? The drop was just under 1,300 points on the Dow. So just a touch. much under 4%. I remember when the Dow was at 1,300.

I remember back when the whole Dow was at 1,300. You're talking in one day, it dropped almost 13%. How many, I'm sorry, 1,300 points, how many percent? Just under 4%. Okay, that's a monstrous correction. How else do you... Absolutely. It's a gigantic correction because the people in the know it's looking very, very bad.

and you're telling me that the Fed is covering for the government. Now, why would the Fed be trying to cover for the Biden administration's actions and the results of those actions which are disastrous for America? It's a complex change in the way that the government wants to run the country. Not to play politics, but we went from a nation where we had freedom, where we had a conscience, and the people ruled. We know that that's not the case now. We're being told what we can and can't do.

We're being told what people's genders are, and I know I do economics, but we look at this in a broad stroke and say, if you can't tell me the difference between a man or a woman or you want to tell me what the difference between a man and woman is, how can I trust that you have my best interest in mind? Yeah, well, I mean, that's the point is we know they don't. And I think people listening to this program know why I like Charles Thorngren and want him on this program. And I'm thrilled the legacy precious metals is a sponsor of this program because we are just talking about reality.

We're talking about most people see what is happening. And this is just the financial aspect of it. And now, okay, so because you're in the business of precious metals, how do, how do, how, how do, how, how. How does buying gold and silver help us kind of get out of this death spiral? Gold and silver act independently of the U.S. dollar. They act independently of the U.S. government. In fact, if you take it to the extreme, you could say by buying gold and silver, you don't have faith in this administration because you don't count on them doing the things

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We donate, we help. We're there for other people's, even if they don't necessarily agree with the things we do. We, as a conservative-minded person, we have compassion. So that strength when we do this makes us be able to get America back to where it belongs quicker because we have stronger individuals in the nation. Well, okay, so again, one of the reasons that you're a sponsor on this program is I believe in what you all are doing at Legacy Precious Metals. And I want to tell people, buy guns, buy ammunition, buy gold, buy silver. Do you guys sell silver bullets, or is it just the coin form?

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Who do you think you are? Well, you know what? Promise is made. Promises kept. Dr. Ben Carson, welcome with the program. Always a pleasure to be with you. I love talking to you about anything, but I have you on today specifically

to talk about the new film. I've told my audience about it a bunch of times. Uncle Tom, too. Tell us what you can about this film, because from my point of view, we have to re-educate America on American history. And a big part of that, of course, is black history. And the level of either ignorance or disinformation that many of us have on the story of black America after the

Civil War, it's almost unbelievable. So I want to congratulate Larry Elder and you and everyone who's participated in this. But tell us about about, about, the film? Well, I was glad to participate in the film that Larry did. And it helps black people to see that you don't have to support Biden to be black, like he said. Now you're phrasing it negatively. You don't have to support Biden to be black. How about you can't support Biden if you're pro-black? I mean, it's kind of, it's almost funny to me how crazy we are, that we kind of act like we have to, well, I mean, you're saying it, I'm interrupting, but it's just, it's amazing how bad it is. It's been going on for decades and decades, roughly since Lyndon Johnson.

Well, you know, so many people are corralled, you know, by political correctness, by wokeness, by wanting to fit in. You know, I noticed this dramatically when I was in high school, in inner city high school in Detroit. and, you know, everybody had to talk a certain way. You wear certain clothes. You do certain things. Or they call you names and they ostracize you. And I was the object of much of that ridicule. Now, why?

I just want to laugh now. I'm trying to picture you as a high school student. I can't do that in Detroit. And, like, what were you doing or not? doing that made you the object of ridicule? Were your grades too high, carrying too many books down the hall? What were you doing that made you the object of scorn? Well, because I was a very good student, people would say you're acting white.

And of course, my retort was, if being smart is acting white, what is being black? And of course, they never had a good answer for that. but I didn't wear the clothes. I didn't go to the social gatherings. I just was laser focused on getting out of that environment and being successful. And, you know, the funny thing is even though I got a lot of ridicule, when I went back to my 25th class reunion, everybody said, oh, we're so proud of you, we tell our kids, our grandkids about you.

And don't you remember how we used to encourage you? That's just kind of funny how people's memories change over the course of time. But, you know, it's so important this film that Larry has done to break the stereotypes. And I see it happening already. It used to be when I went to a conservative gathering, I was frequently the only blackface there. Now there are a lot of black faces there. And people are starting to recognize that they've been used mercilessly for political gain. And when the last administration was present, you had the lowest black unemployment, significantly increasing wages, educational programs, prison reform.

I mean, there are a lot of good things that happen, and people aren't stupid. They opened their eyes, and they saw that that was happening. And that's why you see this migration occurring, and it will continue to occur. And I think both parties should have to fight for the black vote. They shouldn't be something that's taken for granted. Well, I mean, it's interesting because it's only late in life that I discovered half of this stuff. I mean, the idea that the Democrats were the pro-slavery party, that the Republican Party was founded to end slavery. They didn't teach that to me in school.

I never heard that at Yale University. You know, now you were at Yale University a little couple of years before. Right, and I never heard it either. Well, no, you're never going to hear it at a place like that. They're teaching the opposite. They're teaching this narrative that somehow the Democratic Party is the party that cares about blacks. That's – I mean, it's wrong on 100 levels. But when you just look at the history, just look at the history, the history of who was pushing Jim Crow in the South, who founded the KKK.

This is like Democrats from STEM to Stern. Democrats, when did this narrative come in that somehow the Democrats cared more about poor people or about urban people or about black people? When did that narrative take root? Because it's an amazing thing, how it's just taken over, and it's completely false. Well, most blacks were in the Republican Party during Reconstruction and after that. And the real change occurred with FDR and the programs. And he did, you know, make some significant changes because we had a very racist society before that.

And I think that's when things really started changing, you know, particularly after World War II and people started saying, you know, these black soldiers help us to maintain our freedom. You had the crack Air Force group, the Red Tails. And I think people began to change their opinion. And FDR helped to speed that along. But the blacks really were looking at who was benefiting them. And Hoover's policies were not beneficial to blacks by any stretch of the

imagination. He basically just didn't care. And because Roosevelt showed that caring aspect, I think that's when the change began. And then during the civil rights movement, it was actually the Republican Party that pushed for voting rights and that pushed the civil rights bill. It was the Democrats who were resistant to that. And then the Democrats subsequently said, Well, the Republicans and the Democrats switched, and they became the opposite of who they were. And the Democrats became the Republicans. Well, there was only one that was strong ferment. So, you know, throw that argument out of the window.

That's not true. But what the Democratic Party then learned to do is to present themselves as the savior for black people. And, you know, Johnson's programs of welfare, I think were probably one of the most detrimental things that ever happened, making people dependent on the government, creating programs like housing subsidies that require you to report any time your salary goes up so that your rent can go up, requires you to report any time someone comes into the household, with a salary so that you rent can go up. I mean, this is almost funny. It's almost like in a children's book, it's so simple. It's like how can we make people do nothing or do less or have no ambition to pull themselves up by their bootstuffs? How can we create a system that's a kind of slavery that basically says to them, if you do nothing,

if you behave in a way that makes you look pathetic, like a victim, we will reward you. And if you start showing progress, we will punish you. It's that simple. That's what the social programs of the 60s did. That's what Lyndon Johnson did. And on some level, we know that many people behind that as misguided and as destructive as they were, we know that many of them, their heart was in the right place.

But the reality crushed the black community for generations. and I really do believe that because of you, because of Trump's presidency, because of some things that have just happened in the last few years, there are a lot of people with black community that they're waking up to the fact that you said in the beginning that they have been used by this political party. And also, it's interesting, but the media doesn't really highlight the incredible progress that's been made in the black community. You know, when I was a kid and a black person came on television who was in a non-survile role, it was a big deal. You called everybody into the living room and come see this. And now, in the same lifetime, in my lifetime, you have black admirals and generals and CEOs of Fortune 500 companies and heads of foundations. We've elected a black president twice, have a black vice president.

I mean, the list goes on and all. That's in one lifetime. So it's ludicrous to say that we haven't made a lot of progress. Two to three percent of the black population are millionaires. You would never know that. Two to three percent of the black population are millionaires. That's pretty interesting. We're going to be right back, folks.

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It is really astonishing that in our lifetimes, what is in this film has been just pushed to the side, ignored. And this is the actual history. And it is precisely the opposite of the victim story narrative that we've heard over and over and over again. again, including from the mainstream media constantly? Well, the mainstream media is a major culprit in all of this. Take, for example, the George Floyd situation. It was played incessantly 24-7. You would have thought that black men were being killed by police every day, that it was a common phenomenon.

We have some good friends in Australia, and we talked to them. They said, what's happening over there? They're killing all the black men. But the fact of the matter is, this great conservative organization, the Washington Post even says, the number of unarmed black men killed by policemen in a year is less than two dozen, significantly less than two dozen. And there was another case, just like the George Floyd case around that time, knee on the neck, face on the ground, I'm going to die. got almost no attention. He did die, by the way, because he was white. So it didn't fit the narrative. So toss that one out. We don't really care about that. But this is how the media manipulates

and tries to make it seem like black people are these horrible victims. Now, this is not to say that we've reached Nirvana in terms of race relationships, but we have made enormous progress, and we need to build on the progress we've made, not build on slavery and and some of the mistakes that were made in our society. What is in this film for folks who are interested in seeing? And I want to tell people you go to SalemNow.com, where you can find it and many other great things. But Uncle Tom, too, roughly speaking, for those who are not aware of the film, what is in it, besides you talking about some of the things we're talking about right here? Well, we talk about some of the things that you and I have just been talking about.

how the media and many on the left try to manipulate people into believing that they're victims. And when you believe you're a victim, guess what? You are a victim. And rather than talking about the enormous avenues that exist for people to achieve. And one of the things also that's talked about is how certain policies, policies are helpful to a minority community. For instance, controlling our border. We control our border. You have less people coming in who are taking many jobs that people in the minority

community might take and use as stepping stones to move higher. Those are very important issues in our country. And only one side seems to understand that. It's incredible. I mean, I was amazed when I started to learn some of this history. I remember when I wrote my book Seven Men and I told the story of Jackie Robinson, not realizing until, you know, fairly late in life that this was a man of profound Christian faith and a Republican. And I thought, what?

the civil rights icon was a Republican. For him, it was about prayer. It was about God. That's what put him on the right path, was his relationship with a minister. And I thought, why does nobody know about this? It's why I put it in my book, Seven Men. I said, people need to know the true story of civil rights in America,

that it was the churches. again, this stuff has been just swept away, and we've brought into this kind of secular, really Marxist ideology, this Marxist narrative, which is exactly the opposite of the truth. It's not just that it's wrong. It's just it's the opposite of what actually happened when you tell the story of what happened in this country. Well, you know, Black Lives Matters had on their website. an admission of their Marxist ideology. They took it off after much attention was brought to it, but that's where they are.

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and not focusing on I'm going to make sure I understand this geometry and this algebra and this calculus, your chances of being successful go down quite significantly. Well, I think I know that you studied your geometry and your calculus. But, well, when we come back, folks, we continue our conversation with Dr. Ben Carson. I want to encourage you folks to go to SalemNow.com and to check out Uncle Tom 2. It's actually important. It's important that we know this information.

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Folks, welcome back. I am speaking with Dr. Ben Carson about a film in which he appears, new film called Uncle Tom 2, produced by our friend Larry Elder. You can see it at Salem Now, see it at Salem Now.com, Uncle Tom, too. Dr. Carson, I just marvel at the idea that there are many people like you, blacks in America, who lived through this, who saw this. I had the privilege of speaking with Justice Clarence Thomas at some point earlier this year. And it's just an amazing thing to hear how he, bought in to the angry black man ideology until he woke up to the truth. And we just see the astonishing accomplishments that he has made just a hero. And yet he, like you, is mostly vilified in the mainstream media and by the Democratic Party

as somehow getting it wrong. I mean, it's just fascinating to me. You could be one of the greatest surgeons in the world. You could be in the cabinet of the president of the United States. You could be a Supreme Court justice. It's just amazing that the two of you, for example, who have been just so dramatically successful would be vilified. What do you think is behind that?

Who is behind that? Well, you know, I grew up in Detroit, a very liberal place. Boston a very liberal place, went to New Haven, a very liberal place, and then Ann Arbor a very liberal place, and then Baltimore very liberal place. So I was a very liberal individual. Until I did something that a liberal is never supposed to do. I listened to a conservative. I listened to Ronald Reagan. And I said, this guy sounds just like my mother. He's saying, Exactly the same stuff, the same philosophy. And, you know, I started really examining my belief system.

I was noticing that so many of the patients that I was seeing in East Baltimore were dependent on the government. They were perfectly able-bodied people. I said, this is wrong. And there is a system that is absolutely deleterious to the aspirations of these people. and that's really when I started making a significant change. Once the media for whom I was a darling discovered that I had made that change and now I was a conservative, he's an evil person, he's a terrible, terrible person because they don't want the narrative of self-reliance out there.

They want people to think that they're a victim. and that they, in fact, are their savior, and that they can't make it without them. It's just, it's amazing to me. And again, it's why I'm shamelessly plugging Uncle Tom, too, because I think a lot of people just don't have the facts. I mean, even as they hear us, you know, talking about these talking points, these themes, they don't know the specifics of how many blacks in America did incredible things. And you never hear their stories in the early part of the 20th century, whoever we're talking about, just story after story of success, success.

And let's talk a little bit about the idea of the family. The breakdown of the family in America and the breakdown of black families in America, that's part of this secular Marxist narrative, that somehow families are, you know, it's some kind of patriarchal institution, whatever narrative that was out there didn't used to be the narrative in black America. No question about it. It was the strong family structure and the faith that got black families through slavery and Jim Crow and segregation and all the horrible things that occurred subsequently.

But what has happened as the family structure has been destroyed by the welfare programs And as people have moved away from their faith, you look how people are now engaged in horrific crimes in which they clearly don't care about anybody else except themselves. And that's why they're able to go out. And that's why you see all the carnage that you see in Chicago every weekend and other places across the country. And you see the carjackings and the robberies and all. all these things because they are self-centered. They don't care about anybody else. And that's what happens when you take faith out of the equation.

And when you take family out of the equation, you don't pass on those values. And, you know, you become a victim of your environment. And that environment frequently is not very nurturing. Well, it's interesting that we have two prominent black mayors, one in New York here, Eric Adams and Lori Lightfoot in Chicago. overseeing a nightmare. Neither of them is married, is a family person. It's just kind of interesting in a way that these people in their own lives,

you know, they send signals. We all send signals by how we behave. Oprah never got married. We always knew who she was involved with. But it's interesting to me how that narrative has changed across the country, but also in Black America, and the messages that get sent out as a result of that to young people. Well, also, if you look at a lot of the writings of the Marxists, and you look at some of the Lennon's writings, they talk about how strong America is and how it can't be brought down unless we find a way to attack their families and their faith.

And they've been very successful at doing it, and it's having the desired effect. That's why Khrushchev, 60-plus years ago, said to Eisenhower, your grandchildren's children will live under communism, and we won't have to fire a shot. What was he talking about? All they had to do is indoctrinate the kids, gain control of our educational system, gain control of the media so they could spoon-feed the people

only what they want them to hear, replace faith in God with faith in government, and raise the national debt to astronomical levels so you could justify massive tax. relaxation, redistribution of wealth and complete dependence on the government. Seems to me like they're doing a pretty good job of doing all those things. We've got to recognize it, and we've got to fight back. Well, when you say we've got to fight back, I could not agree more.

I have a new book out called Letter to the American Church, where I lay the blame at the foot of the American Church for not fighting back saying, well, we can't get involved in politics. If you care about people, folks, you need to get involved in whatever you need to get involved in to speak the truth. We'll be right back talking to Dr. Ben Carson. Folks, welcome back. Final segment with our friend Dr. Ben Carson. Dr. Carson, what do you see as the future of this nation from where we stand right now? What gives you hope? Well, I'll tell you, I'm a big believer in the Bible and in faith and what it can do.

And if God was willing to save Solomon and go more for the sake of ten people, I think he may save us. There's a lot of people in this country who are still very decent people who do care, who love their fellow man, and they love God. And I believe what's going on right now, we all look at it. We say, this is just horrendous. But it's always darkest before the dawn. And a lot of times you need this to wake you up. I think we were sort of like the frog in the saucepan. And now all of a sudden somebody's taking a fish and whacking us in the face with it.

I think the left has moved a little bit too rapidly in their eagerness to fundamentally changes. And I think people are waking up. I really do believe that we're going to see some changes. Of course, it will require some diligence in terms of our voting system, making sure that it cannot be manipulated. And what I find interesting is you take a leftist nation like France. France ended mail-in balance in 1975. Why did they do it?

They said there was just way too much corruption and too many ways to corrupt the vote. Now, if they learned that, why can't we learn that? If we can put a man on the moon and we can put rovers on Mars, certainly we can come up with a system that is transparent that will gain the faith and trust of all the people. Well, I mean, I think it's obvious that if you're the party of corruption, and I am going to say, yes, the Democrats have been the party of corruption. It's not just Democrats, but they have they've made a game of it. They've gotten very good at it. And the last thing they want is transparency, because my goodness, they might lose power. Of course, they would lose power.

But you're right. People are waking up. It needed to get this bad for some people to wake up. But as I said earlier, I lay the blame squarely at the foot of the church, at the white evangelical church, for opening their doors to the Marxist nonsense of critical race theory, of letting their war. white guilt manipulate them into displaying, you know, black squares and BLM flags and stuff. It is just astonishing to me that they would participate in promoting this kind of evil and falsehood to their own people. And in a sense, telling Christians that, you know, don't get political unless it's that kind of politics, in which case we'll say it's the gospel. But I mean,

I really do think that some people in the church by God's grace are waking up. But many have been asleep? Well, two wrongs don't make a right. So, you know, creating guilt on behalf of white people for something that their ancestors did doesn't do anything. And what that will eventually do is boomerang back around and just continue the cycle. So why would you do that? Why not just say, let's learn from the past and let's try to do things in a way that is fair to everybody right now? Well, obviously, I agree with that. Well, I'm just so glad for your time and for your participation in this film, Uncle Tom, too. Folks, it's just important that we learn the truth about history, about the way these trends have worked so we can reverse them.

Uncle Tom, too, I know you can go to SalemNow.com. I really hope everybody will see it because it's just an eye-opener. Dr. Carson, we love you, and we're so grateful for your time. God bless you and thanks for your time today. Thank you for being a patriot.