The Eric Metaxas Show - Dr. Simone Gold & John Strand

Episode Date: May 5, 2023

Dr. Simone Gold and John Strand are in the studio to discuss what this government is doing to persecute and silence them from speaking the truth about what happened on Jan 6 – and about pushback against the Covid-19 mandates.

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Eric Matt, Texas. Hey, Albin. Hey, Eric. I forgot to tell you today's Friday, we got to do another show. Man, don't you hate that? It feels like Saturday because I've been traveling so much. I'm not kidding. Like today feels like Saturday to me because I got so wasted last night.

Just kidding. I don't get wasted. But I really, the traveling to Alaska whacked me out. and so we had an amazing day in the studio yesterday. We've got to just tell people, if you missed my interview with Brandon Strock yesterday, we're going to post it on the newsletter today, Ericmatoxys.com, sent it for the newsletter. You don't want to miss it.

Brandon Strock is an amazing young man, hero in our time. Very important that you hear his story and how he has just, endured, endured, tremendous, vicious attacks from the FBI and from our federal government. In case you're wondering if we're dealing with evil, ladies and gentlemen, we are dealing with evil. And he has really suffered and he told his story yesterday.

Now, today, very similar, very, very similar. We're talking to Simone Gold. and John Strand, both of whom, again, have been viciously, viciously attacked by our own government. It is satanic. It is evil. I've been saying this for a long time. Tucker Carlson said it.

We're dealing with evil. This is sick. This is every kind of evil. Corruption. It's really bad. So today we talk to Simone Gold. and to John Strand, they both have very similar and yet also dramatically different stories. And you have to hear this because you need to be praying for John Strand.

And I'm not saying that. I mean, I'm not just saying that. You've got to pray for John Strand. It's just, it's very important. I want to stress that. So we're talking to them today. We did some extra stuff with them, which we're going to air next week. we didn't have time to air it today, but today is the main part of the conversation.

And it is what I said to them, and I'll say it again now, we're all trying to process what we're going through. And there are a lot of people can't deal with it or they can only deal with part of it. But we have to process what we're living through as a nation. And we have to face it. And what I say in my book letter to the American Church is it is the obligation of anyone who dares to call himself a Christian to take action. So that doesn't mean just to pray. It does mean to pray. But, you know, you don't just pray against the slave trade. You take political action to end the slave trade. You don't just pray against abortion. You take political action to end abortion.

That's your moral obligation if you believe in these things. Christians, tend to over spiritualize things. Albin, I got to give you an example from yesterday. Yes. Yesterday. I now actually, I'll go back to when I was in Alaska. I don't think I shared this yesterday. We were coming back from our trip to the glacier, right? And as we're driving through Anchorage, my hosts, Pastor Ron and his wife, Crystal, they're basically saying, like, oh, there's like tons of moose in Anchorage, kind of wandering around like deer, okay? Sure enough, we see this big moose, like a baby moose, still gigantic, maybe two years old, eating a woman's flowers in her front yard.

And, you know, you're like, what is going? This is a moose eating this woman planted these beautiful flowers at spring, right? So we stopped the car. I opened the door and I'm like, I'm trying to shoe the moose away. The moose wouldn't budge. And they said, like, Eric, you better, you better get back in the car. These guys are dangerous. he could stomp you to death.

See, that's great because that's a Christian thing. You didn't just pray the moose would go away. You actually took action. I actually risked my life almost. But I say that just because, you know, that's the kind of guy I am, right? Like I'm going to do stuff. Maybe people say, well, just mind your own business, whatever. But sometimes for good or for ill.

Well, yesterday, after I got home from the studio, I was so fogged up and tired. I said, I got to go for a run. So I go for a run in Central Park. and as I'm sometimes I run up in Harlem by 110th Street and as I'm running, you know, and I don't really jog. I run. So I'm not like half walking. But I see four teenagers, obviously from this area hanging out smoking. And as an adult, man, I, you know, I'm not going to like.

stop and pray with them. But I shouted to them, because you could smell this stuff, obviously. And it's just a wretched, sweet, sickly smell. But that's another story. But I said to them in a kind of firm, but friendly voice, but firm, you know, I said, smells like failure. And I kept jogging, running. And they said something back to me, which I couldn't hear because I was listening

to like, I don't know, Peter Frampton or. super tramp in my earbuds. And they said something and I kind of gave him a thumbs up or whatever, you know, and I thought my only thought was, I hope one of them or more of them actually think about that at some point. Maybe yesterday, maybe today, maybe five or 10 years from now, they'll remember that guy who said smells like failure because that's what it is. It's failure. It's, I mean, even to do that in public. I mean, imagine just standing on a street corner like drinking a beer in public on the street. You'd be like, hey, what are you doing with your life? Like you think. I know. When I was a kid, if you were chewing on the top of your pen,

that showed that you were a failure. So what? And that's how we, that's why society is always progressing. And it's a wonderful thing that now we moved down to smoking weed in public. But anyway, so I put this on Twitter. And sure enough, you get these like hyper Christian people. This is like where people over spiritualized. like, why didn't you just pray for them? Don't you believe in prayer? Or why didn't you share Jesus with them? Like, I'm going to stop my run. There's like millions of people I could stop and share my faith with.

I happen to be, you know, going for my run. So, but people always over-spiritualized stuff where they can't. It's just so, I mean, again, I talk about it all the time and it's why I wrote letter to the American Church. We've got to stop this over-spiritualizing. Like, yes, Jesus is the answer. The question is, What does that mean?

Do we just say it's the answer? Do we just pray for people? Do we just like, we've got to do everything. Whatever that is. You know, it's like if you see a kid wandering into traffic, you don't just say, well, I'm going to pray for him that he doesn't wander into a bumper of a moving car. You'd say, hey, you know, like, but people don't say, people seem to want to over spiritualize stuff.

And it's led to inaction on the part of the church, which is why I. wrote my book letter to the American Church, and which reminds me, we're doing a campaign. Yes. Christian Solidarity International. There is real slavery in Sudan, and you and I can do something about it. And I exhort you, my friends, to do something about it by going to the website, our radio website, Metaxus Talk.com. When you see Metaxistalksotoc.com, you'll see the banner.

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program. And now to prove it, my guests, John Strand, Dr. Simone Gull Gold. You guys, you have a lot in common, and I want to talk about what you have been through and your stories, but give me the 30-second version each of you of kind of who you are, for those in my audience who are utterly unfamiliar with you, Dr. Gold, Simone. So I was a board-certified emergency physicians working on the front lines when COVID came to our shores, and I didn't like the medical tyranny and the, propaganda and censorship. So I started speaking out. I found it America's frontline doctors.

We spoke truth. We brought hope to the American people. And I've been fighting the medical tyranny for the last three years. So a lot of people are familiar with you and with that story. And they can find you at Dr. Simonegold.com. John Strand, what's your story? What's the short version of your story? The short version is, I am not a doctor, but was very excited. excited and grateful to see Dr. Gold stand up to the front lines during that time shortly before that, and that was July of 2020, but I was keyed into the oncoming tyranny really in January, February of 2020. My internal instinct, spidey sense was on full alert, and I was in the streets of Los Angeles where I lived as an artist, an actor, and so forth, pushing back against

that tyranny, and that allowed me to interact with Dr. Gold when she kind of came. to the forefront. And so now I work as the creative director at America's frontline doctors. Okay. So you, um, you were an actor. Uh, you were, you were not, you, you, you, you kind of got sucked into this because of what happened in 2020. You could see that, uh, COVID was being used by powers that be to, uh, really, um, take away our freedoms. Right. And so you, you, you, you, you, You picked up on that. What did you, well, actually, let me, let me, the reason you're here today in New York, in the studio, let's talk about that.

The clock is ticking. What are you facing? Why are you here today? So because of everything that happened in 2020, we were traveling the country. Dr. Gould was a requested speaker at many events. Of course, her mission was to bring light to. medical misinformation and the government tyranny from that perspective. And I was assisting her in that role.

But generally, I was pushing back against civil liberties violations across the board. That led us to be in January, excuse me, in Washington, D.C. on January 6th, where Dr. Gold was a scheduled speaker at a rally with a government-approved permit. So I was there assisting her doing my job that day. Because of that, we were both swept inside of the Capitol, threw open doors, and then subsequently arrested and essentially demonized destroyed over the last two years facing the full weight of the federal government's been weaponized against innocent American citizens. Dr. Gold chose to take a plea as most of the J6 defendants did.

However, I did not. I refused the plea, went to trial, was convicted by a politically poisoned at D.C. jury and now face up to 23 years of potential prison time facing a sentencing in a month from now. This is just mind-blowing. And anybody who doesn't care about this, want to you turn off your radio or computer now. because if you're not moved by this, I don't want you to listen to this program. It is so sick what has happened in this country, but the two of you, to some extent, are the face of many victims. The idea that Dr. Gold, that you went to prison for a short period of time, but the idea that a lovely woman like you, a doctor, a lawyer, someone who cares about people who's made your whole life about caring about people would be treated this way and forced into that is just horrifying.

I get so angry. I become speechless. And then, John, you, even worse, you said, I am not going to take, I did nothing wrong. You know you did nothing wrong. We all know. The three of us know what you, both did. And you said, I'm not going to do that. And you are now facing many years in prison in the United States of America. This is political, you would be a political prisoner as far as I'm concerned. This is not Cuba. This is not North Korea. How did this happen? It happened slowly until it happens suddenly. And so really,

we are at a place in our culture and in our society where we've totally lost our moorings. We've lost the ropes and the anchors that connect us to something immovable and solid. And so we're being tossed around in a violent storm and we're wondering why we're drowning.

That's why. Now, you're a Christian, you know, you believe in good and evil. And it seems clear to me that the reason the authoritarian scum who have taken control of our government away from we the people, that they see this as an opportunity

to make an example of you. Half of what they have done is to scare people into inaction. Correct. And that's really fundamentally the reason I chose the path that I did in this moment. The government presented me with the choice. You can comply with the lie

and make your life easy. or you can walk off the cliff and we'll push you off. But I'm not complying with a lie. That's very clear. God made it rock solid for me to understand that my obligation, my duty, my purpose in life is to always pursue the truth and to apply myself to doing the right thing, no matter what the cost, no matter how hard or impossible it seems with God,

all things are possible. I actually believe that. So that's the position that I'm in. But, yeah, I mean. So what is it that they are charging you with? It's preposterous that they're charging you with anything. But what are they, I mean, the idea that you would face years. I just want to give the background on that.

And before you say, is that we were both charged similarly with the same exact five charges. One is a felony, which doesn't apply in our situation, obstructing Congress. It's a rule called 1512C2. that has nothing to do with the events of January 6. It's an accounting financial law that George Bush signed into law about the Enron scandal, about witness tampering and shredding evidence. They've taken that statute, which has only been applied in those kinds of cases, and applied them to hundreds of people like John and like myself.

Why? Because it's got a 20-year felony attachment. And when you hear that 20 years, you take a plea. That's what I did. There were also a few misdemeanors thrown our way. So we walked peacefully. There's never been anything violent. Of course not. And I chose to just take the government's offering of a misdemeanor. And John said, I'm not lying. And therefore, he, like me, is facing the felony for misdemeanors. But my point, before we answer that, is how does the government go from saying this might be a 24-year incarceration to, by the way, you could have zero time? In other words, they offer. me 60 days. They would have offered him less because he was working for America's Frontland Duchess working for me, but instead they might want to throw him in 24 years. Well, this to me is, you know, you want to talk about the problem with the legal system in general

way before January 6th. This kind of thing has been going on and it's evil. It is utterly wrong. It is immoral that, I mean, listen, I wrote a book called Seven Men. The last chapter of that book is about my friend, the late hero, Chuck Colson. Chuck Colson was offered a plea deal around the Watergate thing, and his lawyer said, you've got to take it, you've got to take it, you've got a teenage son, you've just got to do it, and he had recently become a Christian, and he said, I can't, I won't. If I go to jail, God will go with me, and he'll be with me, and he'll use me there,

I'm willing to risk it. I'm going to give myself over into God's hands. And so he famously refused that deal and went to prison not for a terribly long time. It ended up being less than a year. But the point is, out of that, he founded prison fellowship and spent the rest of his life advocating for justice in our, penal system and so on and so forth. And it's just interesting to me that you have the kind of faith, that you're just willing to face what you know may be very difficult.

Absolutely. There's no minimizing the difficulty. I'm just struck by what Dr. Gold mentioned about the status of the justice system, how it's so off the rails. The federal prosecutors are not interested in justice. They are not an impartial arbiter of trying to provide a safe, just environment for all citizens to live in. No, they are entirely ambitious, and they are entirely soulless, moralless. lying is like just breathing to them. I can't tell you how many direct lies were spoken about me and about my story during my trial with evidence to show it. It's quite shocking, actually. It kind of brings us back to Solzhenitsyn. When you forget about God, this is the kind of thing that happens when you do.

don't fear God when you're not scared to lie. Plenty more ahead. I have the privilege of talking to John Strand and Dr. Simone Gold. Don't go away. Welcome back. I'm talking to my guests today. John Strand and Dr. Simone Gold, who were colleagues at frontline doctors. That's how this started.

You both believed that a false narrative was being put forward and you had to fight. And we were just talking about how both of you were there on January 6th. Part of the reason I wanted to have you on this program is just to say over and over and over again, the narrative of January 6th is 99 and 44 100th percent baloney. The idea that you, too, both of you, would be charged like this, tells the story. In other words, because I know both of you, I know what you did or didn't do. The fact that they're charging you and treating you like this tells me what kind of people they are. So there's still tons of people in the establishment, tons of people, good people, friends of mine,

who still believe the J6 lies. they don't believe that you two are guiltless. They don't believe. They have just bought it and moved on, and they think, oh, it was bad. It was an insurrection. It was a terrible riot. People were killed.

They really, I guess my point is, they're not hearing the truth in the mainstream media. And Tucker Carlson, who did, in some ways, a small part in telling the truth. is gone. It's dramatic. So it's so crazy. I was listening to you. You know us. You know of course we're not violent. Of course, why would a doctor and an actor go on and be violent? It's ludicrous. But in addition to that, there's videotape of the entire time. In other words, this

videotape is essentially exculpatory of what they're charging us with. That's what's the craziest, but people haven't seen it. When you look at the videotape, I had done an interview with Tucker, and then later, Later they get their hands on the videotape, and one of their producers calls me, they say, Dr. Gold, have you seen this videotape? You know, we can, and he's shocked. Now, this is Tucker's producer who's shocked. He says, but you're just walking between the ropes.

I said, I know. Like it was news even to him. I'm saying the news, the word hasn't gone out there. The media lock is so tight. The propaganda is so pervasive. That's what you're alluding to. Yeah. And it's true.

I mean, if you don't know, you don't know what you don't know. And they're not just withholding information, but they're replacing it. with lies and with things that seem reasonable. And so that's just internalized into the public psyche. So like you said, you know all these people who, they may not be menacing or malicious in their intent, but they believe that there was this violent insurrection on January 6th. It's a lie.

Not only is it a lie, but it was a criminal act by the government. See, this is where it gets really dark. Again, there's levels of evil. You know, it's one thing to lie. it's another thing to accuse the people of telling the truth of being liars. Right now, I mean, look, when Tucker aired the footage of the horned shaman dude innocently walking around being escorted by Capitol police, Mitch McConnell and a whole raft of super hacks,

denounced this as though he had put something on which was profoundly false and misleading, edited falsely. This is Mitch McConnell and plenty Republicans who participated in this. And so this, of course, makes the American people want to know how deep does this go? How is it possible that somebody like Mitch McConnell, who, Look, I don't think anybody thinks he's a noble person. But the idea that he would so strongly denounce this as though he had a gun to his head, that Chuck Schumer had put a gun to his head or something like that.

Why would he say these kinds of things? People are still living in a paradigm where there's two sides, and they're still living in this concept that there's Republican versus Democrat, and that sort of separates how we view the world. And that's an absurdity, actually. I mean, it's such a distraction and unfortunately a very effective one. But people can't accept the idea that the government could be corrupted and weaponized to the point of facilitating a criminal act against American citizens. That is what happened on January 6th.

I'm not just saying that. The evidence is there to prove that and to determine that. Also, I was physically there as a witness, an eyewitness. So I know what I saw. I know it was happening. And subsequently with the benefit of hindsight and, more evidence that comes out, that story becomes more and more filled out. I wonder if, you know, when we vote, if it's just theater, right, just to take what you're

saying a little bit further, that doesn't really matter anymore if you vote for Republican or Democrat. It's really just a bureaucracy that's running it, a machine. And then there's anonymous puppet masters that are telling the bureaucrats what to do. And it almost doesn't matter. Was it Bush, was it Gore? Is it McConnell? Right. I think it's very difficult as Americans to accept this. Well, no, no. It is virtually impossible. And that, that's why we are living through right now. We are processing. Every day, another person is waking up, every second, another person is waking up and looking around and realizing, whoa, I bought the lie. It's hard. It's very hard. I mean, listen, we lived through this,

the Western world lived through this when the Nazi death camps were revealed. Most people, I think to stay sane, said, I'm sorry, that didn't happen. That can't happen. It didn't happen. And slowly, slowly, you begin to realize it did. And I have to try to find a way to process the evil. And I have to find a way forward. We are living through that now as a nation, as a country.

We'll be right back, folks. I'm talking to John Strand. and Simone Gold. You know this is an important conversation, so let me remind you to share this everywhere you possibly can on social media while you still have the freedom to do that. And I'm not really kidding, am I? I'm talking to Dr. Simone Gold and John Strand. I was talking about how so many in America are processing this.

It happened to me when my wife was telling me. for example, during the COVID stuff, that they're putting people in these hospitals, and it looks like they're either trying to kill these people or they don't care whether the people live or die, or they're withholding this medicine, whatever. Instinctively, I said, that can't be right. I do not like Governor Cuomo, but I don't think he's capable of that. And so it took me time to begin to realize that people that I would, as a default, assume, believe roughly what I believe we get there in a different way.

I disagree on all these things. But they wouldn't do that. And both of you fairly early on saw that. And it's because of your work that people like me were able eventually to see that and to begin to try to. be a part of helping the rest of the country see that? I think what helps people wake up is to see examples with tremendous specificity. So I was watching the task force in the beginning of 2020, and I would watch Cuomo every time he was on, and I was cautiously optimistic that he was trying to do the right thing.

And then one day, he passes a bill, a regulation, executive order, that was taking hospitalized patients, elderly patients who had gone from the nursing home to the hospital with COVID, And then they're leaving the hospital, the ones who didn't die, went back to their nursing home. But he authorized that they get to go back to their nursing home. But the nursing was not allowed to know their COVID status. In other words, if you went for a broken leg or broken hip or you went for COVID, when you come back, the hospital nurse gives the nursing home nurse report, tells them the status of the patient, lets them know what's going on.

And in a COVID case, you would keep them segregated, right? He specifically passed an executive order that they intermingled. I always want to put the best face on it. In other words, if you, because people make mistakes, right? So the question is, sometimes there is a good reason and then you realize, ooh, that was a mistake. Are you, is there no rationale? When somebody says something crazy, I want to find out, like, why do you think this is a good idea?

The two sides, I think Cuomo, the best view you could put on it was that Cuomo had been hearing that nursing homes didn't want to take back COVID positive patients, so he wanted to suppress that information. That would be a positive spin on it. Because you can imagine nursing home doesn't want to. But the reason I reject that is there were thousands and thousands of empty beds on the ship and in the Javit Center, right? So he could have taken all of the COVID-positive recoveries from the hospital

and put them all in the Javit Center. Right. Right? So that was the best spin. Okay. And so it sounds to me, I've talked to John Zmirak about this on this program. Part of the story is that people like Governor Cuomo, who's been replaced by Stoge number two, was so anti-Trump that to use facilities that Trump as president had made available didn't fit the narrative, didn't want to help make Trump look like a good guy even on this small thing.

As we're, you know, we're miserable as a nation. We're suffering. We've got this. We don't know where this pandemic's going. And so the president does what he does. And but Cuomo and others were so partisan that to do anything that might help Trump look decent or possibly be reelected, whatever that was, we're not going to do that. even if it means sending people into nursing homes knowing that people are going to die.

That's, I mean, that's what happened. I studiously try to not talk about motives because it's so challenging and difficult. I can just present the facts that he had thousands and thousands of empty beds that he, the governor, chose not to use, and he chose to intermingle frail elderly patients who were vulnerable with COVID-positive patients. Those are facts. Well, you know, as we sit here again, your father is a Holocaust survivor. So I think part of how I process all of this is to say, to remind myself, satanic evil exists in the world.

We've all been privileged to live during some decades where things were going pretty well. And we forgot that human beings are capable of evil. we forgot. We kind of acted like well even the worst guy is a good guy. He's an American and he wouldn't do that. We just disagree on a few things. But when power is involved, and again,

these people have to wrestle with this on their own. But when power is involved, the idea that somebody could make a decision so fathomlessly cynical and to say we're going to send these patients there, we know people are going to die. I mean, another part

of the conversation is that getting the number of COVID deaths to go up helped in other way. So there was an incentive for there to be more COVID deaths. So we'll talk about that. What I'm thinking about right now, honestly, is that look past the last two years, look past the last hundred years. Think about humanity in general. We're pretty consistent, right?

I mean, people operate a certain way. We were talking earlier about losing our moorings, and is there an absolute morality? Does that exist or not? If an absolute morality does not exist, then we are animals. How do animals operate? They eat and kill. That's it.

It's really basic biology, right? So this is how people actually operate as higher functioning animals, without some sort of moral identity that would otherwise allow us, cause us, facilitate us to channel the base energies or base instincts that we have, they will just go the way they go. So why is it so unreasonable to assume that people won't kill other people for their own selfish purposes? Well, again, the reason is, and we'll come back to this because we've got plenty of time,

but I think that America, for most of our history, we have been different. Tocqueville writes about it that the Judeo-Christian biblical values have held sway here in a way that enabled us to get to a point where we forgot

that we could drift backwards. We'll be right back, folks. Don't go away. Picture show Second balcony was the place we'd meet second seat go Dutch tree.

You were sweet, dark a shame. Welcome back talking to John Strand and Dr. Simone Gold. We were just talking about the idea of how do we get here. And I really believe that we know that man, apart from God, is capable of just unfathomable evil. And you see it all through history. But because we've been so blessed in the United States of America with enough people who were virtuous, self-governing, cared about truth, cared about the little guy, cared about it.

In other words, this has been enough of a baseline for us in America that we forgot that it was not normal. And we took our eyes off the ball with regard to evil, with regard to the temptations of power that exists in government, the kinds of things that our founders saw when they set up our government. And so you arrive here now where, enough people have forgotten about God, have forgotten that it is immoral to lie, it is immoral to kill, it is a moral, in other words, they have really just devolved to what's in it for me,

how do I, you know, how do I get ahead? And a lot of us just didn't think that we could get there, but we're here. And even if, even if they're not thinking in terms of absolute evil, you take the average person, it was shocking when I went to my sentencing, you know, you You don't swear to God. You don't swear to tell the truth under God's law. It's unbelievable. What are you saying? You don't put your hand on a Bible?

No, you just say that you're going to say the truth. Wait a minute. When did that change? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Until suddenly. But I mean, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, but you don't put your hand on the Bible.

There's no Bible? You just, you just raise, and you don't say under God. You don't, that you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It was shocking. But there was no Bible. Forget the Bible. you didn't have to say God, the truth under God. I don't remember that you had to say under God.

I just remember you supposed to place your hand on the Bible. You swear the whole truth, the whole truth, nothing about the truth. You definitely didn't have a Bible. Oh, so help me God. I forgot about that part. That's what you mean. And by the way, the judicial system, just to river back to something you had said, is this is not a game of ping pong where the two sides are trying to win.

The only way our judicial system works is that the defense tries as hard as possible, but the prosecution is impartial. The prosecution is just bringing the evidence. Because if the prosecution defines itself as just the opponent to the defense, oh my gosh. So that's where we are. The prosecution is trying to win at all costs.

They're not seeking justice. Okay. So what we're talking about fundamentally is the erosion of morality in America. That's ultimately what we're talking about. And Solzhenitsyn talks about it. Many people have said it. When you pull God out,

you get this, you get power fighting with others for power. The problem, because we were talking about processing this, is that most Americans, I would say your average American, did not understand how far we had drifted until these things have happened. Correct, correct. So there's a selfishness and a cowardice in our culture that has metastasized to an unbelievable level.

And so now we're seeing people casually, glibly make these large-scale corporate decisions that cause people to die in hospitals. We're seeing the justice system truly weaponized against innocent American citizens and people just tossing it aside as it's nothing. I mean, they're believing lies about it to think, oh, these people are terrible people and they deserve that. But it doesn't take too much sifting through the details to realize this is a disaster. There's lies everywhere.

And the people using them, their objective, is their own. personal gain. So the Justice Department related to January 6th, and there are many details to substantiate this with detail, but the FBI, the DOJ, they see January 6th as a giant opportunity to make a name for themselves and carve literal notches on their belt. I'm a notch on a belt. Yeah. Wow. We've got plenty more coming up. Don't go away.