The Eric Metaxas Show - Dr. Simone Gold & John Strand & Brandon Straka

Episode Date: May 9, 2023

Eric orchestrates a panel discussion with Dr. Simone Gold, John Strand, and Brandon Straka centered around the cancel culture, woke infiltration, and the kerfuffle created by trans activism.

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Eric the Texas! Hey there, sports fans. Every time, it doesn't happen often, I get two guests in the building. I think to myself, you know what? It would be fun to have them on a panel. But we don't do panels on this program. Until now, until right now,

I have the joy and the privilege of sitting with two friends, two warriors for freedom, Brandon Strach, and Dr. Simone Gold in the same room together. I've interviewed you separately, but I thought it would be fun to have a few minutes to talk to the two of you together because you have some things in common. Why don't we talk about those things? Let's do it. You ready? I'm ready.

You ready? All right. What do you guys have in common? Fashion? There you go. That's good. We both get into a lot of trouble. Yes. Troublemakers. Right.

Yeah. Well, seriously, what you have in common is pretty dramatic. Both of you have suffered at the hands of tyrannous elements within our own government. Not that there's anything wrong with tyranny. Who are we to judge? But you both have. And so I think it's what endears you both to me. is that you've been willing to put yourselves out there in a way most people aren't.

And so let me start with you, Simone. What is it in you that you think enabled you to be a voice, to be a face, in the midst of the madness, when everybody's sitting back and thinking, I don't know what to do, you stepped up. What do you suppose it was in you that enabled you? you to do that? I think everybody faces those moments in their daily life. I don't think I'm unique in facing those challenges. So one day I was at work as an emergency physician, and there was a patient in front of me who needed early treatment for COVID, and the government said I couldn't do it,

and the hospital said I couldn't do it. And I remember thinking, well, that's nonsense. The person in front of me needed that, and I knew that I'd face repercussions for doing it, but it was not relevant to me in the moment of the question and the query from the person in front of me. Everything that has happened in the three years since, it was April of 2020, has followed from that one decision. So I urge everyone that in their daily life, every day you have a crossroad, a decision to make. Every day you're going to do the right thing or the wrong thing.

Every day. You just don't know where it will lead you to. Okay, so the question is, do I listen to Adolf Hitler, or do I do what is right? The Nuremberg trials, they all said, we were just following orders. Everyone just said we were just following orders. I had to follow orders, didn't I?

Obviously, you didn't. And most people do. You didn't. You did what innumerable doctors did not do. You actually cared about the patient. You took the Hippocratic oath seriously. And you said, it's not my job to worry about the repercussions on me. I'm concerned with the health of this person.

And for that, you have. have endured, unshirted hell for over two years. I'll ask the same question to you, Brandon Stroke. What do you suppose it was in you that said, I'm going to stick my neck out there. I know I'm going to be vilified. But was there a moment, or how did that happen for you? Well, I think by nature I am a rebellious person, and I'm comfortable being rebellious. It's like not wearing a tie right now, for example.

Super rebellious. What is wrong with you? Probably the most rebellious thing I've ever done. No, I think there's that. I'm comfortable not going along with the herd or the flow. But that stems from a place, ultimately, that I care about people. And I actually care about people individually, and I care about the collective as well.

As I have told you before, I mean, the whole reason why I wanted to speak out about and start walk away was because ultimately I realized I was being lied to and manipulated. I realize that black and brown and LGBT people and immigrants and all different kinds of people are being manipulated. And I realize that this division that exists in our culture doesn't have to exist. We're all being exploited. We're being used. We're being manipulated. I wanted to do something about it.

So, I mean, believe me, at boomerangs, it's backfired in my face numerous times. I mean, for people who haven't woken up yet, I'm extremely hated by black and brown and LGBT people who don't yet understand. what I'm doing, but someday they will. And I think that it'll be appreciated that I spoke out at some point, or so I hope. Or I'll be dead, one of the two. Yes. Well, we'll all be dead eventually. Who cares?

Related. You know, I just want to piggyback on what you said. You have to actually not really care that much what other people think. You phrase it as being rebellious. In other words, you stood up for your own worldview, contrary to one, be what other people think. You have to actually have that inside of you to say, at the end of the day, I'll listen to you, I'll pay attention, I'll read, I'll think, but I'm going to do it.

what I think is right. You have to have that streak inside of you and you should develop it in your children. You should spread that message amongst your friends. You shouldn't care that much. You should make up your own mind. But what's fascinating to me philosophically, being Greek, I have to be philosophical, is that you have the idea that there is such a thing as what is right. Some people don't. Some people aren't there yet. Some people are kind of looking around for clues, and if you're merely looking around for clues, you will go with the flow. So the idea, let me ask this question for either of you as well. Where did you get the idea that it was right to care about other people to do the right thing? I mean, I'll start with you.

Yeah, I love that question. I do think some people think there's an absolute morality, and some people think it's all relative. I have never thought it's relative. I know that there's an absolute morality, an absolute good and evil, bad and good. 100%. Where? Why? Well, in my particular case, my father's a Holocaust survivor, so I was absolutely raised on stories of knowing that good and evil. You don't believe that whole crazy

Holocaust narrative, do you? No, right, right. Really? Come on. You believe in mermaids? No, seriously, you are the daughter of a Holocaust survivor. Yes. Now, it's a compelling and ethical way to grow up because you're very face-to-face with what's real and what's evil and out there.

But it's accessible to anybody. You have to start with there's an absolute morality. Mostly this generation or the last, I don't know, 40, 50 years people think it's all relative. It's not relative. There's an absolute good and an absolute evil. Okay, so you had that. That kind of comes out of your, whatever, your background growing up as the daughter of a Holocaust survivor. And I think of myself growing up, my mom and dad, what?

they went through similarly informed me. Brandon, what about you? How does that, where do you get the idea? When you say, I care about people, where did that idea come from? Because not everybody cares about people enough to stick their neck out and do the right thing. I just think the bottom line is that most people just want to be validated. They want to know that what they think and what they believe in their heart and what they care about matters to people.

And, you know, when I grew up in a tiny little town in Nebraska, in the 80s and the 90s, and I was a young person who knew that I was gay really early on, and that was at a time when people were pretty vocal and outspoken about their opposition to that. And, I mean, I would certainly say that I experienced a great deal of torment and bullying and things like that. I think that instilled in me a desire to want to protect other people who just have a desire to be their true and authentic selves or believe what they truly and authentically believe. And that's why I've always felt so defensive of Trump supporters, because the abuse that I see leveled toward people who've supported Donald Trump is exactly the same as what I felt like I experienced when I was growing up. It's stemmed in misunderstanding, misinformation, and bigotry.

It is so fascinating, you put it that way, because I am, you know, being a Christian, I'm not an advocate of any sexuality outside of, you know, a man and a woman for life in marriage. there is this thing when you see the way anybody is bullied or treated, you know that's not God. I mean, if you believe in God, right? You just say that that's not the way to deal with people with whom you disagree. You're not loving them. So it's fascinating to me that you come from totally different places, but something rose up inside you.

nonetheless, most of the people on the left, most of the people in the community that you were describing, haven't turned that corner, haven't made the connection with, you know, working class, Trump supporters. We're at a time in this segment. So thank you. But if we have time, we'll do another segment and continue this conversation. I don't know about you, but I'm sick and tired of iconic American brands selling us out to appease radical leftists. But it's not just beer and sneakers. For years, big mobile companies have been dumping millions into leftist causes, and we had to take it because another option didn't exist.

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Check it out. Folks, as you know, I never do panels on this program, but they bullied me into doing one. I said it would never work. I was wrong. I love talking to Dr. Simone Gold and Brandon Strock, who just happened to be here at the same time. But we have some things in common. Simone, you were just talking about the deeper principle behind standing up. For you, it was the Holocaust.

It was that background, Brandon for you, was being bullied as a kid and just seeing the injustice of it, feeling the injustice of it. But why do you suppose so many people on the left, I could say, in the gay community, in the Jewish community, don't make that connection? What does either of you think is at work there? Because you are both leaders in a sense in doing. that. So Simone, please. I think there's a reluctance for parents to actually teach kind of this absolute moral truth to their children. We're all like, hey, whatever feels good, whatever is good, it's all very equal, co-equal. People, for example, in my, I've got children, in the children's school, they would call the teachers by the first name. And I was a huge advocate of trying to get rid of that. I said that that's a problem, that the kids are thinking the teachers are equal.

There is a certain kind of hierarchy that you have to teach children, really honestly, for them to go on to have happy, productive lives. Okay, now this is deep, right? Because we're normally given a choice between this kind of sloppy, false egalitarianism, right? I would argue as a Christian, a genuine egalitarianism comes out of the Bible. We're all equal in God's sight. He loves every one of us equally, period. But some people take that into this kind of, as you just, just said a sort of, they are like militantly against any kind of hierarchy or tradition, which pushes them, you know, they just become like Bolshevist, Bolshevik idiots, basically. First of all, then, no one's really in charge or somebody evil's likely to be in charge because average good, nice people are not really going to pummel their way and push the way to be on the top, right? It's more like sociopathic people that will do that. So if you don't have a hierarchy in place that's honorable, that's got proper authority in place, then who ends up in charge or sociopaths?

Okay, so that idea, again, this all kind of came to the culture in the 60s, but it's like when somebody says question authority in the 60s, they would say question authority. So what that really ought to mean is you question authority to see whether the authority is legitimate or tyrannists. Not question authority as a concept that all authority is bad. all leaders are bad and need to be taken down a notch. And I think anytime anyone sees someone who is a real leader or who is strong or who has made it or is wealthy or whatever, there's an egalitarian impulse in America to say we need to take them down a notch, which is a kind of a socialistic Marxist idea. And I think a lot of the hatred of Trump comes from that kind of a sensibility.

That's my theory. Yeah, well, and that ties in because I want to answer your question about the left, too, from my perspective. I actually believe that the majority of people on the left do feel that they are trying to protect social justice and trying to do what they think is right. Trying to help the downtrodden. Right, but the problem is misinformation. And when we're talking about, like, the authority, what I think a lot of people don't understand on the left is that the authority for them has become the media. They just don't realize that they're being ruled and governed by the misinformation from the media.

I mean, if you're to ask the average person on the left, why do you hate Donald Trump so much? Why do you espouse so much opposition to his followers? They would tell you that he's akin to Hitler and that it's their moral obligation to stop Hitler. But that misinformation has been instilled in them. I mean, right now, I don't know when this is airing, but there's a situation happening. It's airing right now. Wonderful. There's a situation happening in real time in New York City.

where a black man was on the subway yesterday. He went in there. He was menacing people. A white Marine was there. Put him in a chokehold to try to subdue him, and this black man died. Right now, as we speak, the liberal left is going crazy, claiming that another white man killed a black man on the subway.

They seemed to have no care whatsoever for the fact that all the other people that were put in danger on the subway train. But they've been ingrained to believe through the media that they're protecting the rights of a downtrown. trodden group of people anytime a black person is. This ultimately is a question of narratives, right? I'm old enough to remember when, you know, we had Woodward and Bernstein kind of, you know, waving the flag of journalistic integrity to bring down corrupt government.

And that kind of came into the culture. And the problem is we've always in America. believed in the basic integrity of the authorities. Like we knew that there could be corruption, but what has happened, of course, is that we accorded all of this power to, let's call it the media as the champions of truth. And in the decades since Walter Cronkite and Woodward and Bernstein,

something has happened so that we still, a lot of Americans still trust the mainstream media, but the mainstream media itself, has fallen prey to the temptation of power, which is exactly what they used to be against. You know, but it was like, it's like this in all of our institutions. I think there's a certain kind of cherry-picking

of those applicants to the schools. I mean, journalists' schools really favor a very certain kind of political ideology. Medical schools are in the same boat now, favoring a certain kind of political ideology. I think it was Harvard. It was one of the most famous medical schools that literally now is favoring diversity

and favoring having classes that are segregated by race. You're kidding. I am not kidding. I was sending you that article. Okay, so we didn't bring it up, but since you're sitting here, the medical establishment, no more trusted establishment in America.

Many people think of doctors as God. They have the power of life and death. They're all about science. And over the decades, that has eroded. We have seen greed, and corporate power take over that world so that hospitals, which are owned by conglomerates, are telling you the doctor what you can do here and here and here and here. And as the doctor, you suddenly realize, wait a minute, that's not working in the best interest of my patient.

So there's a whole other gigantic field. You've lived this. Yeah, it's heartbreaking. And it's as vicious as the, you know, you call the military industrial complex. I call it the medical industrial complex. and I think it's far more dangerous. The military industrial complex is about 4% of our GDP. The medical industrial complex, which is run by corporate insurance interests essentially,

like United Health Group, Optum, Kaiser, those financial interests, which are being funded by people's monthly premiums that they're paying, is controlling the medical care that the average person gets. Telling the doctor what to do. Infinite examples. Telling the doctor what to do, telling the hospital what to do. That doctor-patient relationship has essentially been eviscerated. And it's not just a problem for the patient.

It's really a problem for society because it's taken down of the intelligentsia, really. Like that's what it's doing, which is always a move that Marxists do. Say more about that. How is it, how is that attacking the intelligentsia, which is what Marxists have done through history, kill the intellectuals or whatever? Who could have really pushed back in early 2020? The only people who could have pushed back, it wasn't EU, and it wasn't you, and you both are super bright. But it was scientists who were reading the journals. I read the journals. I was really no different than my paper. And I'd read the journals and I go, well, gosh, darn it.

SARS-1 we got through 15 years ago. And SARS-1, this drug called hydroxychloroquine worked really well on SARS-1. Oh, I wonder if it works on SARS-2. You read the journals, oh, it does work on SARS-2. Who can read those journals? It's the intelligentsia. In that field, it's medical intelligentsia. What do they do?

They silenced us. Completely silenced us, banished us, censored us. When they do that, people downstream from the doctor are now fed misinformation. They have to silence the intelligentsia. medical, legal, artistic, whatever, journalist. So the media.

Yeah. Misinformation. But what makes it really sick to me is they label truth misinformation. In other words, this is the term gaslighting, unfortunately, has become so popular. But that's what makes it particularly, to my mind, diabolical. In other words, it's one thing to say, we disagree with you, whatever. But they're saying you're guilty of what they're in fact guilty of. Well, it's important to remember, too, that the stories that we hear every day or every night when we turn on the news are decided for us by a small handful of people.

And what's happened over time, too, is a lot of these people who are making these decisions are people who are fresh out of college. I mean, people have just spent four years being indoctrinated in whatever school that they go to into leftist ideology. I mean, interns, bookers, these are the people sitting around saying these are the stories that we're going to tell tonight. Well, no, we're not going to say this positive story about President Trump. We're not going to talk about this positive thing that we did. Here's a story that we can spin into making it seem like Donald Trump did something racist or that this Republican over here did something to harm black people. And these are the stories that they're going to run with.

These decisions are being made by 24-year-olds. So they've become either Marxist activists or whores for money who couldn't care less about the actual patient. This is about we want to make money and we're going to tell you how to do it. But we've trained the population to be very compliant and to just follow their paycheck or just follow their boss or follow their peers. We've trained the people like that. That's why we're huge. I'm like saying parents, you have to teach your children to think for themselves. To reach you, Dr. Simonegold.com.

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You know, I thought since I had Brandon Strach and Dr. Simone Gold with me in the studio, maybe just for a goof, we could talk about something really controversial and provocative and stop talking about the safe, hallmarky kind of stuff we've been talking about. So Simone, Dr. Gold, you brought something up, which I think, qualifies. So I've always been wondering, now that I'm sitting here with you, Eric, and you Brandon, the LGBTQ, et cetera, all the initials. XYZ, my name is Legion. I'm not sure. The extensive, I believe as a doctor that that movement was hijacked by the whole transgender movement. And I'm just to speak as a physician. I'm very offended at the fact that doctors perform these very high-risk

surgeries, which have unbelievably high complication rates that in no other area of medicine would we be allowed to legally do. But they're doing them because they're called experimental. So as long as a person signs away, they can't really bring a malpractice suit against the practitioner, but they should be absolutely illegal. It's assault. It's terrible. But I'm just kind of wondering if you as a gay person feel as though the LGBT movement

was hijacked by the transgender movement? Yes. Short answer is yes. but it's also complicated because I think that there's an enormous amount of people now that are calling themselves transgender who are not even transgender. So it's a little bit complicated. I mean, so now there was a time when I was growing up where there were people who had gender reassignment surgery, and they would say they felt like they were born in the wrong body,

and we called those people transgender. Now we're calling 14-year-old girls with purple hair and nose ring trans because they say that they fall somewhere on a gender spectrum, or they're neither male nor female. That, to me, is an absolute high jacking. And then the second part of it, too, is that the whole gay rights movement began with Stonewall in 1969, and it was a group of mostly gay men who got tired of having the bar that they were going to being raided night after night by police.

They were being beaten, and finally, one night they fought back. Well, now this sort of radical Marxist movement is saying, well, that didn't happen. It was actually black trans women who were fighting back against these officers at Stonewall and that this history has been whitewashed. And it's not true. So, yeah, there's many ways in which I think the gay rights has been hijacked. I just have to say that, you know, again, speaking as a Christian, it's a sin issue when you're talking about greed. Because this is not an issue that we typically think of as a sin issue, but I've never in my lifetime seen greed take over the souls of people like doctors.

When I think that there are doctors willing to take money to do these surgeries, I am absolutely aghast. And I kind of wonder, how is this different from Dr. Mangala? Like, look, somebody else was going to do it. If I didn't do it, I might as well get in there and make a buck. Thank you for saying this. It's cash. These are cash procedures. You're absolutely right.

It's being driven by greed. They're being paid a lot to do these procedures. It's horrifying. Okay, so if I go to a doctor, the reason this is so stupid is that if I go to a doctor and say, listen, I identify as a limbless person. So I'm going to pay you money to remove my arms and legs. Most doctors would balk at that. Now, there are some super pigs who wouldn't.

But the point is, most doctors would say, I think this person has mental issues. I don't think it's possible for me to do it. do something like this. It's physically possible. It's medically possible, but I wouldn't do it. But also the doctor would be afraid of losing their license, of being brought up on charges, right? They're not afraid of that anymore. They're actually afraid of the opposite, that if they don't do the surgery, that they might get called transphobic. So it's all kinds of incentives. It's the greed. Ooh, you get called a name. Wow. It's better to take the money and run. Listen, I just find it as a man, the idea that men want to compete, for example, as women,

I just laugh at it because not only are there crazy, selfish people who want to do this, but there are other people willing to allow it to happen, to destroy everything. Yeah. I mean, that particular point is outrageous. Even if you're somebody, say, on the left or if you're a large advocate for the transgender movement, you should be able to look at least at basic fairness and say, okay, this is an area where we should all be able to agree. Biological males have advantages in certain ways over biological females,

and it's just, it's not fair. I mean, it's literally just a matter of fairness. But they're not. They don't care about the fairness. They don't care about anything. literally just this is a movement that almost wishes to devour everything in its path. And I think that's just one aspect of that. But I love the, I love what you brought up about the complications. And I think you should speak more to that because, I mean, I considered myself for a long time to

be an advocate for people who felt like a transition was the right choice for them to feel like who they really were. But we never heard about the complications that people went through. And we never talked about the detransitioning people, too. I mean, that is something that was absolutely very. See, but that's the point is that that narrative, we're not allowing them to have a voice. And that's when you know something's wrong. When we say, well, listen to those stories, but we won't listen to those stories. Very horrifyingly in Denmark, an 18-year-old boy died on the operating table because I can't even say on the air what they were trying to do. It is, it sounds like a joke, except it's true.

He died. So there's going to be evidence against what we see happening. And just that gives me a modicum of hope. I'm sorry, we're out of time. Just a joy to speak with you, Brandon Strach and Simone Gold. Thank you. Thank you. Folks, welcome back.

If you are a listener to this program or if you watch us on Rumble, I hope you do, because I want you to see what I'm wearing. You know that whenever we can, we have on our friend Robert Netsley. Who is Robert Netsley, you ask? Well, since he's on right now, I can ask him to tell you. Robert Natsley, first of all, welcome. Hey, thank you for having me again, Eric. Pleasure.

For those in my audience who are in and out and don't remember or never heard you and who it is, what it is that you do and whom you represent. Just tell my audience the nutshell version, if you don't mind. Sure. So I'm the founder, CEO of a firm called Inspire Investing, where the world's largest faith-based provider of exchange-traded funds. And we do something called biblically responsible investing. Essentially, we invest the hell out of your money.

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that you claim to believe in. It is not difficult to do something about that, but it does take some effort. You have to actually know about it. And then you have to go to inspire advisors.com slash Eric. So that's what I put on my Twitter feed because I feel like, and I've said this, Robert, I've had you on this program before, people do not realize the power they have, they're not using. And you have to use the power you have. So the money that you have invested in various places. If you, if you let it go, you can make some money off of things that are destroying America. So it's like, it's like eating a, like an ice cream while you're sitting on a branch on a tree that is being sawed off with every lick of the ice cream. You're going to

die, but you know, you're, you're just enjoying the ice cream. What is happening right now with, with a lot of us, we've got our money, whether it's a little bit or a lot in these funds that We're just unaware of it. So you, Robert, this is what you do. So the company that you run, of course, is inspire investors. But for the link, people need to go to inspireadvisors.com slash Eric. So that's the action point. But tell us about your affiliation.

You've been working with the Alliance Defending Freedom, Total Heroes. We've talked about them on this program many many times. But talk about one of the things you're involved in with them right now. Yeah, so we were contacted by Alliance of Finning Freedom a few years ago to start working together on shareholder activism. And so recently we've been partnering up on some shareholder proposals regarding this whole trend of debanking conservatives and people of faith. You know, you may have heard some people like Ambassador Brownback getting debanked by Chase and some other high profile. Now, hold on. issues.

De-banked. That's like a really ugly verb speaking as a word smith. It's just a grotesque term. But what does it mean? It sounds a little bit. It means it's really evil. Yeah. Well, yeah.

It means that if you have a, right, so if you're a conservative person or you have certain political viewpoints or hold certain faith-based values, this is a bank saying, we don't like that. We're closing your accounts or severing relationships with you, canceling your loans, canceling your lines of credit, whatever else may be. as a business or as an individual and you don't have access to the financial services. You need to run a ministry, run a nonprofit, run your life. You know, your friend Mike Lindell, you know, has suffered from this sort of thing.

I think it was it last year or year before. There's a long list that's growing. It's a troubling trend. It doesn't matter what your values are. I mean, whether you're conservative or liberal or somewhere in between or on the, whatever, right, you should have access to a bank account in America, for heaven's sake. And so what we're doing with Alliance Depending Freedom is putting it to these banks, some large banks that are in our portfolios,

we filed shareholder resolutions with several last fall. I'm going to highlight one in particular because it's been in the news, signature bank. So signature bank, if you've recently heard, had a massive implosion and, you know, has been taken into receivership and the FDIC and this big problem, right? Well, last fall, we filed this resolution to, force them to make transparent their so-called hate speech policies or, you know, anti-discrimination policies and making flying rabbit ears or anybody can't see me. Because oftentimes these are so vague

that they're used by folks in these banks to just, well, hate speech means whatever I think it means. And so that means if you believe in marriage between a man and a woman only, then I might think that's hate speech and cancel your accounts, right? So, It's a problem. So we're forcing them to make these policies transparent, opening them up to public accountability and scrutiny to make sure that they're not these vague statements that can be misinterpreted and twisted to hurt people, but instead are clear and actually do what they're supposed to do. And so Signature Bank in particular was not interested in having a resolution put on their ballot.

They fought that. We, along with Alliance Defend Freedom, pushed back. They acquiesced and our shareholder resolution was then approved by regulators and the company to be put on the ballot. And then they went out of business. So it's a little bit of a moot point. But the point is maybe they should have been paying more attention to their core business of running a good bank instead of. We're just at a time in this segment. I just want to tell my audience, folks, this is real. If you don't get involved, if you don't take your funds out of of these places. I mean, the idea of debanking, this is wicked. This is right out of the book of revelation.

Go to inspireadvisors.com slash Eric. Please go to inspireadvisors.com slash Eric. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Robert Netsley. inspireadvisors.com slash Eric is the action point because Robert you every time I talk to you I'm amazed at what is happening and you kind of wonder does anybody do anything about it

you're doing something about this. What is happening is it's right on the book of Revelation. If you don't play ball with the Marxist Loonies with the transgender activists, with the viewpoint diversity score, garbage. If you don't play that game, people are being prohibited

from having access to their banks, to their money. They are being targeted. If you have biblical values, you are being targeted or the big fish are being targeted. They're going to come for you soon enough, but you need to stand now. And so many of us are just kind of drifting along,

like, well, it'll happen to somebody else. And the reason I wrote a letter to the American churches, because that's everybody in Germany thought exactly that. And so you can be guilty or you can step up and do something right now. And it's why I wanted to have you, Robert Nestle, back on the program, because you were just sharing with us on and off the air about the horror of this, that this is actually happening and how people, first of all, need to get their money out of funds and out of companies that are supporting. values that are completely at war with what most of us believe in. So in order to do that, you can go to inspireadvisors.com slash Eric, folks, please do it. It's free. But Robert, you're not making this up. And it doesn't seem like most people are aware of this, that this is happening today. It's happening right now. Yeah, people are losing their access to financial

services because of their political affiliations and their religious beliefs. in America, right? And like you said, well, it's just these high profile people. And it's just kind of an elitist, you know, game going on. Well, no, it really is going to trickle down if left unchecked to you and me and the people listening here. And we need to stand up and say, hey, this, like enough is enough. And money is power, right?

Money is power. The money you have is giving somebody power. So where are you putting your money? That matters. What funds are you putting your money in? What fund companies are you investing with? Are they standing for your values? Are they using your money, your power to advocate for your destruction and your family's destruction, instruction, instruction of America and everything you hold dear? You've got to think about this, right? So inspire and we manage about $2 billion right now. We're one of the fastest growing investment firms in the nation because we're standing up and speaking biblical truth to corporate power. And good friends like Eric right here and others who are just sharing this message and getting it out to the masses, we need. to get together and wake up. And that's why we're making this free offer, inspiredvisors.com slash Eric, where if you want to know what's in your portfolio,

good, bad and ugly, we're going to give you that information, do that report for free so you can do something about it, right? Take some action, whether it's with us or with somebody else, but just don't do nothing, right? Don't do nothing, do something.

Because frankly, that happens on. It happens in Germany. People say, how did that happen? How did that happen? And I want to be really clear, folks. It happened exactly as it is happening right now with good people.

doing nothing or hesitating and saying, I'll do it tomorrow, I'll do it another time. It's not them. I've got a lot of other stuff to worry about. And they pick us off one at a time. If you do not tow the woke line, they're coming after you, after your money, after your ability to buy and sell. This is out of the book of revelation. What will it take to wake us up? I promise you. that you're going to feel very guilty if you don't step up. We're doing all weekend to communicate this. The action point, since we're out of time, inspireadvisors.com slash Eric, just go there.

Please tell your friends. We've got to get our money out away from these wicked, wicked corporations. Inspireadvisors.com slash Eric.