The Eric Metaxas Show - Drew Allen

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Columnist Drew Allen joins to discuss his new book America’s Last Stand Will You Vote to Save or Destroy America in 2024?

Folks, welcome to the Eric Metaxus show, sponsored by Legacy Precious Metals. There's never been a better time to invest in precious metals. Visit legacy p.m. Investments.com. That's legacy p.m. Investments.com. Welcome to the Eric Metaxus show. I shouldn't tell you this, but Eric hired someone who sounds just like him to host today's show. But since I'm the announcer, they told me, so I'm telling you, don't be fooled. The real Eric's in jail. Oh, Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. I feel obligated to say that. No, but honestly, we have, in this hour, we're talking to a brand new guest, Drew Allen, about how this is essentially this is it.

Yeah. Like either we win in 2024 and elect a non-communist bum to the White House, et cetera. or it's game over for America. So we'll be talking about that in a moment. Before we get to that, I want to tell the story of how I got my Christmas tree yesterday, and I want to talk about CSI. All right, so, CSI.

Yeah. I've never done this before. I don't know why I don't do this, but as you know... You're kind of a modest guy. We have a campaign. No, actually, I'll try to explain. Basically, every year at this time,

we try to raise money for Christian Solidarity International because they work to help those people who have been viciously persecuted for their Christian faith. And this month in particular, we focus on one aspect of that.

There are many people in the Sudan who have been enslaved for years, literally enslaved. And CSI has the ability to get these people out of slavery, and we've talked about it on the program. We'll talk about it more in the future. But it's horrifying. It's very difficult for us in our mindset in America to imagine this is going on. But CSI does that, and every $250 will free someone who's been enslaved, many of them for many years.

This is since the 90s. So this is just an extremely wonderful opportunity. But what I've never done before, at least I don't think I've ever done it before, is refer to where we are in the campaign. Because this is something we do it through the month of December. And every $250 frees a slave and enables them to be set up in a life of freedom. So that's the most important part of the $250. So first of all, if you can't give $250, give what you can, folks. It's not about everybody is in a different place.

But every $250 that is given enables someone to be freed and to be set up in a life of freedom. So it's an amazing opportunity. But what I've never done before, I don't think, is say where we are now. And where we are now is as of today, today is Monday, I believe it's the 4th of December. That's right.

correct yes um we had this morning we got the report uh we've raised 14,000 dollars, which, uh, frees 57 slaves. That's amazing. Our goal, here's the good news and the bad news, the goal for this campaign is 169,000 dollars. So 14,000 means we're 8% of the way to the goal. So that's not so great. Now, I'm bad at math, but how many slaves is our goal free? I don't remember that. Yeah. As producer, it's your job to tell me, to tell me. But the bottom line is that we have freed 57 slaves. Now, folks, I just want to say, so if you have given, try to get your head around this one, 57 human beings who are enslaved today will be freed as a result of your gift.

57 human beings. This is real. This is not something that's made up. This is what CSI, every day they give us the amount of, you know, what we have raised on this program. So God bless you, those of you who've given. Those of you who've not yet given, I want to ask you to give generously. I also want to say that every $250, CSI, when they get the gift from you, you will automatically be sent a signed copy of my book letter to the American Church.

So I know you don't give to get, but I'm just letting you know if you give $250, you will get a signed copy of my book letter to the American Church. I also want to say anybody who can give $15,000, and this price went up because we used to do it for 10, I can't anymore. I basically have no time. It's insane. But I donate my evening. In fact, tonight we're having dinner with some people here in New York City.

But if there's anybody that can give $15,000 as a thank you or anything more than $15,000, I will carve out an evening to spend. We can have dinner. It can be a group of people or a small or just a couple, whatever it is. But that's my joy for anybody out there who wants to do this around Christmas. It's a gift you can give someone. You can say, you know, I got you. a dinner with Eric Metaxus, whatever, and by the way, you freed this many slaves.

I think doing this in somebody's name, to say to somebody, you know, Uncle Joe, grandpa, grandma, in your name, this family freed a slave. We gave $250 or we gave $1,000. I mean, it's a beautiful, beautiful thing. And so you go to Metaxus talk.com. The number is 888-253-3522. 8-88-253-35-22. So right now we're at 57.

Tomorrow, I hope that number changes significantly because we have a long way to go. Okay, I guess I'll leave it there. So we scheduled getting a Christmas tree yesterday. And last year, this is true. If you follow me on Instagram, I don't understand this. but last year we got a Christmas tree and I carried it home on my shoulder and it was a nine-foot Christmas tree.

It's a big Christmas tree. That's like Paul Bunyan vibes, right? Well, I've been working out, dude. I'm coming back, man. I'm coming back. So you're jacked as I say. I've been working out for a number of years and I am totally jacked specifically for the day

when I get the Christmas tree. So we've got to get the Christmas tree down on like, you know, First Avenue because it's like cheaper. The farther you walk away from Central Park, the cheaper the trees are. So we got this massive tree yesterday, nine-foot tree. And once again, I carried it home on my shoulder. And it is amazing because when you first pick it up, you're like, oh, okay.

And by the time you get to the end of the block, you want to die. So I put it down. And I will post these photos on Instagram. Yeah. But last year, I posted a photo of me doing this, and I still don't understand, like, why, but it got more likes than anything I ever put on Instagram. Yeah. And I don't really understand that.

Well, it's fun. You know, people like to see the holiday spirit. Well, it's fun, but I still don't quite understand. A physical feat of strength. I mean, it's basically one John Disland is what you were able to. You know what? John Disland, who is on this show. Yeah.

He's like literally seven feet tall. Yeah. And I think... He said he was 380 pounds, I think. Is that true? I think that's what he said. Yeah, the tree wasn't quite that heavy. Yeah.

But I just feel like... But the thing is, it is an issue of like, you know, male pride. Oh, yeah. Like, as a dude, I'm like, no, I don't want you to deliver it. I got it. You know? Yeah. I got it.

Yeah. And I did, but I need to find a chiropractor bed. No, it really was kind of a cool thing. And so we took some pictures. I forced my daughter to take some pictures. I said, look, I want to prove to people that I really carried it. But it was just... That's pretty far.

I know where you live, you know, First Avenue. It's about a thousand miles distance. It's pretty far, actually. That's because the avenue... The separation between avenues is not nothing. It was something, but I kind of feel like, you know, I was pumped. I was psyched. And then, of course, you know, you get it in the house,

and then, you know, you got to put the lights on. That's actually much more self-sacrificial as a man to put the lights on the tree. That can just be brutal. But I did that. We got it set up. And it just made me so happy to see it. And actually, I should post on Instagram photos of the tree also.

But then after that, we watched my favorite Christmas film, which is the Scroo, the 1970 Scrooge musical with Albert Finney. I just love that. I watched it in 1970 at Radio City Music Hall when it came out. When my grandmother took us, we lived in Queens and took us on the train, and we watched it in 1970. And to this day, I just think it's the greatest Christmas film. 1970 Scrooge. We'll talk about it another time. We're at a time. Folks, I am asking you to go to Metaxistok.com. Do anything you can. And please get your family and your church involved. This is a beautiful opportunity. The number is 888-253-35-22. 8-8-88-253-35-22.

Folks, right now in other parts of the world, people's lives are being threatened simply for believing in Jesus. People have been enslaved. for their faith. So listeners to this show know that I'm passionate about the work of Christian Solidarity International because they protect and free those who are being persecuted and enslaved for their Christian faith. I've got to thank you for your life-changing generosity for years. Now, if you've given a CSI through this program, you have played a role in freeing literally thousands of captives. So as we near the end of this year, can I ask you to give once again your gift of just $250 will free a woman in Sudan who has been in enslaved for years. You can buy a believer's freedom and provide her with food and other supplies

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He happens to be the host of the Drew Allen show, which is a lot of. a coincidence. It's named the Drew Allen show, and his name is also Drew Allen. He's a widely published columnist, and he's out with a new book called America's Last Stand. Will you vote to save or destroy America in 2024? Drew Allen, welcome the program. Oh, it's great to be with you, Eric. Thanks. I have to say that, you know, there's no exaggerating about how bad things are in America right now and how they're trending. And I, everywhere I go, I say the same thing that it is waking people up. The question is, will it wake enough people up? But we are in a tailspin. We've never seen anything like this. And anybody who isn't seeing this, they're living in

some kind of bubble because it's an astonishing display of incompetence and malfeasance, both. but when your book is called America's Last Stand, why do you put it that way? Why do you put it that way? Yeah. I mean, what's happening this country is unprecedented in terms of what the left has done, obviously, in terms of devastating this country, whether it's the border national security and on and on. But the attacks against Donald Trump, that cannot be overstated in terms of its danger to this country. This is the third consecutive.

example of election interference from the left. And this is, of course, you've heard people say, banana republic tactics and so on and so forth, it's true. If the left can succeed in corrupting the justice system, the legal system to prosecute, put in prison, their political opponents for crimes that weren't even committed, we don't have a country. Elections don't matter anymore. And, you know, I think people have said every election has been the most important election. And that may have been true, but people really need to understand that this really is, in my opinion, Eric, I write in the book that this is really the third major test we've had as a nation. Now, we're trying to use a peaceful means to change our future and save the country with elections, of course. But, you know, we had 1776, the American Revolution.

We had the Civil War in 1861. And I think this is just as important in terms of an inflection point. Drew Allen, I'm not making this up. you're the first person besides me to have said this. I say this in my book, which is coming out in April, and I've been saying it wherever I go, that we are in the third existential crisis of our history. I have not heard anyone say it besides you just now.

It is a fact. And when we say existential crisis, America will cease to exist. That's the meaning of the word existential. We will, in fact, and are well on our way. Ladies and gentlemen, We are well on our way to ceasing to exist as America. And if you don't get that, you're missing something extraordinary, horrifying.

And by the way, if you don't get that and you don't do what you can, you are guilty. And I say that with as much force as I can muster, because if we're not all in on this, it's over. And I'm just thrilled, Drew, that you don't just see that, but you've written a book about it. America's last end, will you vote to save or destroy it? democracy in 2024. And of course, you don't say it in the title, but not to vote is to vote. Not to vote is to help destroy America. Yeah, and I'll make an analogy that I like to use because I happen to be a Christian, Eric. I can't think of a better way to explain our job and duty in this country than this analogy. You know, as a Christian, I'm not called to sit at home and just thumb through

my Bible and pray. Jesus calls on us to go forth and make disciples of all nations, right? Being a Christian is about being an activist. It's up to us to go out and spread the word and recruit people. It's the same responsibility we have as Americans. It's actually our duty, our patriotic duty, in a constitutional republic, to go out and take responsibility ourselves, to educate and form and protect this country. And so, you know, that's one of the reason that wrote the book too is to give people kind of a political Bible, if you will, for their own vantage point, to read these arguments, and to address people. Because I talk to a lot of people, Eric, and it's a little bit disheartening

when people just don't want to talk to their neighbors, don't want to talk to other Americans about politics because it's depressing or it's uncomfortable. And I'm warning people, you know, you're not being asked to run into bullet fire like the founding fathers or, you know, the union soldiers. all you're being asked to do right now is go out and spend the next little bit less than a year talking to people, doing everything in your power to make converts to the cause of liberty. And if you don't do it because you think that's too uncomfortable now, I'm sorry, what's coming down the way if you don't do it now is going to be so much more worse and very, very uncomfortable. And listen, there are plenty people who can't be convinced. And so it's it's not about just talking.

But I really feel, you know, Drew, that the churches are the most to blame. In other words, there are people, there are plenty evangelical churches where you can go and never deal with any of this stuff. And these are tremendous moral issues. I mean, these are, satanic things are happening. And you have a lot of pastors that act like, well, we don't want to be divisive. We don't want to talk about, you know, immigration policy, or we don't want to refer to the southern border.

well, does child rape bother you? Does fentanyl killing thousands and thousands of Americans not bother you? Is that not a gospel-related issue for you to bring up in church? You obviously don't love your neighbor if you don't care about these things. And that's, to me, the disconnect is that there's so many in churches that pretend like talking about these things is to get out of their lane. I'm here to say that that is unbiblical. It is totally unbiblical. And if it's unbiblical, and if it's unbiblical, and if it's unbiblical, biblical, it's from the pit of hell. That's the kind of church that Satan loves because you are not bothering him in the places where he is being very effective right now. There's the level of destruction and harm being caused, not just to Americans, but to people all around the world as a result of silence of churches and pulpits in America is so shocking to me. It's why I speak out so strongly about it. But when you call this America's Last Stand, that's the title of your book, you know, you're not kidding. And I want to underscore this for folks. Ladies and gentlemen, it's that bad. And if you're living in a bubble and you don't see that, please try to hear

what we're saying, try to hear what Drew is saying, because this is it. You're going to live on the other side of this wherever it goes. So what is your sense, Drew, of where it is going? Well, to be honest, I think we have a historic opportunity ahead of us. Not that polls are always accurate, but I think they can be accurate when they measure up against your gut and your feeling. The fact that Donald Trump, for example, seems to be beating Joe Biden and pretty much all the swing states in polling. I mean, why shouldn't he be? I think it's strange right now that we have a champion in Trump still, and we have somebody who we can really win with, and Democrats believe that he can win. That's why they're going through these motions to try and destroy him and put him in

prison. You can listen to them on MSNBC if you want to torture yourself. You can hear what they're saying. They believe he can win. But for some reason, there's many people, many Republicans who want to deny that. They want to fight against it. They'd rather, you know, will his loss into existence than champion his victory. And you have to remember, people by and large, I mean, they're very much persuaded by the path least traveled. They want to go with the popular thing. And so we have kind of turn the tables, in my opinion. One of the things that frustrated. me throughout Trump's presidency and even leading up to 2020 was ashamed Trump voters on our side, even though Joe Biden and any other Democrat is horrendous in comparison to anything Trump might

have even done that they didn't make up. You know, they made us feel like we were on the defense. You know, you've got to defend your decision to vote for Trump. Why can't, why wouldn't you vote for Biden? Well, now you see, you know, whether it's Cuomo going on a podcast and saying he could possibly see himself voting for Trump. The left is finally, many Democrats are ashamed of being a Democrat right now. They're ashamed of the Biden administration.

And we should be changing the momentum and backing Trump and being positive, being enthusiastic, because it's an opportunity to take these people who are wondering where to go and bring them on to our side. And I think if we do that, we do have a great opportunity to convert and win. But we've got to get past this never Trump syndrome that's going on denying the inevitable result, whereas he is. going to be our nominee. So why are we wasting this time trying to destroy him and convince people not to back him when we should be using this precious time, little time that we have, to convince people to support him because our country's future depends on it. I think, I like DeSantis, but I don't believe his time is now. I don't think he has the fire, the personality on any level to even compare to Trump. As for Nikki Haley, she's a neocon bum. She is a night. She is a night.

It's like Dick Cheney in a wig. I would run from her like the plague. But I'm just fascinated how Fox News and other outlets are trying to prop up this idea that we have this alternative. And I think pretty quickly we're going to find out we don't. It's Trump. And then the larger point is why would they be attacking Trump on the level they are? This is just mind bending, mind bending. If you have any sense of history for them to attack a U.S. president in this way tells you

they are scared to death. They're scared to death of him. I think the Washington Post wrote an article recently where they're now trying to say like, oh, he's really going to be a dictator and a tyrant if he gets in this time. He's going to wipe out the opposition. First of all, wouldn't that be swell? Wouldn't that be wonderful if he did that? But the point is they are so scared of him.

And the way they're attacking him tells me that he is the greatest threat to the deep state, to the Uniparty, to the enemies of America. That just seems to me to be a fact. We're talking to Drew Allen. We'll be right back. His book is America's last stand. Folks, have I told you about Moink? M-O-I-N-K?

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What is the evidence? What's the argument for that? Yeah, well, I think that people can look at what's happened just a little, you know, less than four years under the Biden administration, how far we've gone in terms of national security, the corruption of the education system. I mean, we're facing moral decay, economic decay. I mean, I call this in my book even the American Dark Age is what we're looking at. And if they have another four years to continue down this path, like you said yourself, we're only going to exist nominally. America will exist, but our freedoms will be gone. And of course, unfortunately, elections aren't going to be a way to save ourselves.

So this is really our last stand to push back and take control of our destiny and alter the future of the country for the better to save it and protect it for our own posterity. But I want to be clear, too, when I say it's America's last stand, I'm not telling people that voting for Trump is going to solve all our problems because I'm 36, Eric, and the rest of my life is going to have to be dedicated to protecting the country because, look, we've been asleep at the wheel. And I'm not, I don't beat people up. It's inevitable. I say, look, where we are is inevitable. Lincoln, 20 years before the Civil War, he gave this speech to the young Lyceum's Club in Illinois. And, you know, he talked about the fact that, you know, you think that the Caesars and Napoleon, of the world. You think they won't spring up amongst us? Of course they will. The Constitution is a great bulwark against tyranny, but it doesn't erase that from going into and corrupting the hearts of mankind. So we have, we're the most prosperous, lucky, blessed generation I am and the history of mankind. And so while we've been dormant taking all this for granted, naively telling ourselves that this could never happen here, the tyrant has been the most active. They've been making a move. And it's like,

what? The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing, you know, people that he didn't exist. I mean, that's kind of what's happened here that, you know, the Democrat party, oh, they're so moral, they're so good. They just, you know, have good intentions and the policies don't work. That's not true. We are facing a war, if you want, of good versus evil, not just liberty versus tyranny, but it's, I mean, it's spiritual in nature even. Oh, there's absolutely no question. And again, I talk about this all the time. And you're quoting Lincoln's speech. at the Springfield Young Men's Lyceum.

He was a very, very young man. He was in his late 20s when he gave that speech. And it's astonishing. I quoted in my book, if you can keep it, he saw clearly, almost better than anybody, really the greatness of America and the fragility of America, that if we don't keep the republic,

it doesn't keep itself, that we can be devoured from within. And as you are saying, that's basically what's been happening. In my lifetime, people have been asleep at the wheel. Let's face it, Republicans, most of them are utterly useless. That's putting it very, very kindly. They are self-serving and they don't deserve to hold office most of them because they do not understand we are in a war for the soul of the republic. And not just America depends on it. But as America goes, so goes the whole world. There is chaos in Ukraine, Russia, China, Israel.

All of the world depends on a strong, virtuous America. And obviously, under this regime, we're seeing a classic case. It's almost like the test case. Biden makes Jimmy Carter look like Reagan as far as I can see. And it's just a nightmare. Let's talk for a minute about the border because it's very hard. hard for me to take in that even a Republican governor like Greg Abbott in Texas, it's taken him till now. I think it's despicable. I think he's pathetic. It's taken him till now to take a strong

stand on the border. And I think, hey, it's great. You're doing it now, but it's a little late. I think we've let in like thousands of Chinese nationals, potential terrorists. Like, we've actually done that because of you, Texas governor, Greg Abbott. And of course, you can lay the larger blame at the footstep, at the doorstep for the Biden administration. But we have Republicans like Greg Abbott who are just kind of shrugging and then wondering why people don't respect them. Yeah, it's really tragic for you and me and the rest of the American people that the supposed leadership that is elected to obviously fulfill their constitutional duty, protect the sovereignty of state and the country, that they don't seem to care. You know, when we have this conversation

and we've been having this conversation about how important 2024 is, a lot of people are right. They don't get it. And our leaders don't get it. The Republican Party doesn't get it. And Abbott, it's kind of disgraceful because what it shows is he actually could have done something all along. So he knew he could do something. It's like I was flying back from Italy. I went with my six-month-old daughter, kind of crazy. wouldn't do it again anyway. But we were trying to catch a plane and we'd gone through a travel agent and they didn't actually, they couldn't find the ticket for the infant. And I speak Italian and it helped a little bit. But at first she said, sorry, there's nothing you can do about it. There's

nothing we could do about it. You're just going to miss your flight. And I didn't take that answer and I pushed back and I said, no, you have to do something. And sure enough, she took it to the kid, got it done. So why are you telling me that you can't do something right now when I know you can and it gets so bad, that's when you make the decision. And what's the point now? We've got 10 million almost illegals who've come into this country just under this administration. We don't know who they are. We do know who some of them are. They're going to be murders. They're going to be terrorist acts. Congratulations, Greg Abbott. You're guilty. Congratulations, Joe Biden. Congratulations, evangelical voters who didn't vote in the last election. You're guilty. Because when you don't vote,

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Will you vote to save or destroy America in 2024? So we're down to the wire, Drew. We are, as you say, and I've been saying, in an existential crisis for the soul of America. This is no hyperbole. I always say, boy, I wish that I were exaggerating, but that's where we are. Things have gotten this bad. And also, I think a lot of it is being masked, that there are a lot of people that they don't, you know, they're not really reporting the true state of the economy or the effect that

wokeness has had on our military, the effect that vaccine mandates have had in our military. We are a devastated nation compared to where we were under Donald Trump. I don't know how anyone can argue with that. Well, it's kind of like I'm sitting here waiting. I think many of us are for the quote-unquote straw that's going to break the camels back. There's so many crises that are unprecedented in nature. they're so significant in scale that we're just wondering, you know, I mean, if China was to decide to invade Taiwan tomorrow, that could be it. You know, the unraveling crisis in the Middle East could end us. I mean, because our military is not prepared and so on and so forth.

I mean, everywhere you look, it's just a dumpster fire. And of course, it's almost beneficial to this administration because you can't really remember all the things that this administration has done because they're constantly breaking through the ceiling of insanity that they had previously set for themselves. the day before. And so on top of that, if people can't remember all the devastation that's happened under this administration, there's been so much abundance of it, can Americans remember how great it was under Trump? And we have to remind them of that because this is what I say too in the book. I say, you know, just ask yourself objectively, like Reagan in that one debate with Jimmy Carter, he said what? You know, are you better off today than you were four years ago? Well, this is even more unique because Reagan hadn't been president before. They had to take him his word and based on his record as a governor, but we have all lived under the Trump presidency.

We have all lived and suffered under the Biden presidency. Are you better off under Biden than you were under Trump? And under Trump, of course, we had a loathsome propagandist media that told us it was so bad when we had it so good. And today, of course, we have it so bad. And to point something out based on something you just said about we don't really know the true state of things, last year, You remember Q2 economic results, job results came out. And the Biden administration told us celebrated they created something like one, over a million jobs. And then it took the Philadelphia Fed to come out in December and said, actually, we looked and they only created 10,000 jobs. Okay.

That was last year. That's called lying. And ladies and gentlemen, as a fanatical, born-again evangelical Christian, I think lying is wrong. I know I'm alone in that. It's a freaky religious point of view, but I think lying is wrong when your government lies to you. Now, listen, the funny thing is, Drew, we're used to politicians shading the truth.

We've never seen anything like this. I mean, and this is the thing, is the older you are, the more of a perspective you have. I am astonished. Under Biden, the level of lying has been ratcheted up. It's simply like nothing we've ever seen, because it's one thing to have a different person. point of view and to, as I say, shade things and to bend the narrative and, you know, you're trying

to advocate for what you believe. But we are seeing a level of brazen lying that it takes my breath away. It takes my breath away to have the press secretary routinely saying things that they're not even close to true or to have Biden say things are not even close to true. I think most Americans are basically good people who they don't know how to take it in. I mean, if people are lying and lying and lying, you can't help but believe some of it sort of. And I think that's kind of what's happening. And then, of course, CNN has gone over to the dark side. I mean, 10 years ago, they were somewhat moderate.

They've gone crazy. So it's hard for a lot of Americans to process where we are. Yeah. And I'd point out one other thing that happened under the Biden. just in terms of perspective about these are types of lies, these are types of scandals that would sink any other presidency in history. They're worse than everything before. When we had the botched Biden withdrawal from Afghanistan, not only did we ignore intelligence and we had 13 American service members murdered with a suicide bombing, but after that happened, the Biden

administration ordered a drone strike. And they claimed they took out in retaliation, right? Okay, we got the bad guys that did this. They claimed they killed, well, one, and then two high-level ISIS-K planners. They told us that with a straight face. And then it turned out that they had actually murdered 10 innocent Afghans, including seven children, who were associated in some way with some kind of humane organization out of California. And they got caught doing that. So they knew they murdered 10 innocent Afghans in retaliation.

They never got two ISIS-K planners, like they said. but they tried to get away with that. I mean, that's astonishing when you think of Iran-Contra or anything else. This administration murdered ten innocent Afghans and tried to lie to us and say that they got the bad guys. Unbelievable, the level of corruption and just, I mean, you're an evil person. Again, I think that it is, I always try to try to figure out how is this happening. and I simply think most Americans, we've just never been used to anything like this. And so I think a lot of Americans cannot possibly take it in.

And I've been on a process myself. When I first heard that, you know, Governor Cuomo, may he rest in peace, is sending COVID patients into nursing homes. And my wife says to me, well, it's like they're trying to kill these elderly people. And I thought, oh, my goodness, look, he may differ from us politically, but he wouldn't do that. We now know that not only would he and others do things like that, but this kind of thing has been happening.

And so it's really we're having to recalibrate. We're having to reestablish the idea that, yes, in America, there are evil actors. There are people who don't care about life and death. There are people who don't care about anything except power. It is vital that we wake up. We've just got 30 seconds left before we go to a break, final segment. So final thoughts, and we'll be back.

Sure. At the end of the day, my message is one of encouragement because I call us the Patriots of 24. And I say it's unfortunate that we're going through this hardship right now. But honestly, thank God. Eric, thank God you're here. Thank God I'm here. Thank God there are many patriots that are capable of meeting the need in this country's history. And we have to ensure that our posterity looks back on us and can, you know, lift this country up on their shoulders using our memory. Like we can use the memory of Lincoln, their memory of the Patriots. Amen. We'll be right back, folks. Don't forget we need you to help us with CSI.

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Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Drew Allen, his brand new book, America's Last Stand. Now, Drew, I live in New York. You live in California. And yet, we both see signs of hope. There's no question about it. I know you've worked with a lot of people that are heroic figures to me. Carrie Lake, Peter Navarro, Dr. Ben Carson, Naomi Wolf.

You have worked with people that are on fire about something. saving this country and you and I are on fire about saving this country. A lot of people listening to this program are on fire about saving this country. I think a lot of the bad things have happened have driven good people to action. And so there are a lot of things happening right now. Yeah, I mean, the silver lining is it's just kind of an inevitable cycle, if you will. Things have to kind of become bad before people get woken up and activated. And I think that some of the greatest advocates of any cause, they come from a background in which they were actually doubters in the beginning or they were actually on the other side. And you're seeing that happen

with even some of the clients I represent now that were, you know, rabid Marxists in the past who have seen the light and now they're on our team. I mean, the greatest, you know, people who were used, for example, I always bring up, and again, I'm a religious guy. So I bring up, you know, Saul, the conversion from Saul to Paul. I mean, look how much good he did for Christianity in terms of spreading it. And that's somebody who was a persecutor himself before. And so we're seeing this shift in people that are really, I think, going to be useful to this cause. I mean, I grew up around many, many liberals. I mean, I grew up in a conservative household in Texas, but I went to an all-male college preparatory school, a Jesuit school in Dallas. It was very liberal. The Jesuits are very liberal.

I worked in Hollywood. I used to open retail stores and work for Mark Jacobs. I lived in Italy for five years. So my actually life experience is around people who think nothing like me. But I actually am a little bit envious, Eric, of people who actually were like the Reagan's. They were actually, you know, Democrats before they came over to this side, because those people are very valuable. Well, I feel more and more like that. In other words, I feel like somebody who supported George W. Bush and who voted for, I forget their names, you know, John McCain and, and, you know, and, you And I realize that with the advent of Trump, the world changed and we suddenly saw what we were dealing with because of the viciousness in the way they dealt with him. It was so astonishing that many of us woke up and said, you know what?

The Republicans that we thought were the good guys, they're not good guys. They're controlled opposition. They are, you know, they are really evil actors. They're almost worse than liberal Democrats because they pretend to care about what we care about. We vote for them. We support them. And then we find out that they really don't support us. And so I think that there are a lot of people who were in that camp like myself who have woken up.

It's a new day. And we recognize that we're in a different kind of war than we thought we were in. But, you know, you're right that there are a lot of people waking up who were on the other side. I think of Naomi Wolf, whom you know. Carrie Lake was nowhere near where she is right now. She's a firebrand, but lots and lots of people are waking up new voices. When did you decide to write a book? The book is America's last stand.

When did you decide you need to write a book on this subject? Well, honestly, it kind of coincided with the birth of my firstborn, my daughter. She's eight months old now. And I already had a fire in my belly about this country and how much I love it and how much it means to me, but having a daughter kind of add another dimension to the urgency, if you will. And I wanted to contribute, I mean, I've got more work to do. It's not just I wrote a book. I'm done. I can sit back. But I wanted to contribute something that I hoped would be impactful or influential and help us on this journey through 2024. I mean, I look at it like, you know,

Thomas Payne wrote common sense with a very specific purpose, which was to persuade the American colonists to support our war for independence. And so I wanted to write a book with just the same specificity for our time, which is, hey, we've got it. 2024 is it. It's going to come down to Trump versus Biden or another Democrat. They'll plug in. You have to vote for Trump. Yes, yes. We're at a time, but I'm just so glad to have had the time with you, Drew Allen. Thank you, the book, folks, America's Last Stand.