The Eric Metaxas Show - Eric at the YAF Convention

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

Eric delivers a powerful speech about freedom and courage at this year's Young America's Foundation convention in Washington, D.C.

Folks, welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show, sponsored by Legacy Precious Metals. There's never been a better time to invest in precious metals. Visit legacy p.m. Investments.com. That's legacy p.m. Investments.com. The Texas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Folks, this is a special edition of the Eric Mataxis show. Last week in Washington, D.C., I gave what I felt was an important speech. We wanted to play that speech on this program. We're playing the whole speech. Today, you can find it on my various social media places if you want to send the video out. I do ask you to share today, whether as a podcast, however you want to share it, with as many people as you can, it's an important speech.

Here it is. I'm so grateful to introduce our next brilliant speaker, Eric in Tapsis. Eric grew up in Danbury, Connecticut, and graduated from Yale with a VA in English. known for his great humor and literary skills, Eric quickly became a number one New York Times bestselling author for his books, Fish Out of Water, Martin Luther, If You Can Keep It, Bonhoffer, Amazing Grace, Miracles, and his most recently published book is Atheism Dead. He has written more than 30 children's books, and his books have been translated into more than 25 languages. His writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, and The New Yorker. Eric has also appeared as a cultural commentator on CNN, Fox News, MSN, and MSNBC. I have been particularly influenced by Eric Socrates in the city, conversations on the examine life,

which I've studied in high school and continued to reference today. I highly recommend you all check it out. Along with that, Eric is also the host of the Eric Metaxus show, a nationally syndicated daily radio show heard on 300 outlets and aired on television nationally. Without any further ado, I would like to welcome to the stage, Mr. Eric Metaxus. This is next level. USA? How do you know that I like that?

You're just assuming. You're just assuming that I love young people chanting USA, and you assumed right. Thank you very much. God bless you. Let me say how honored I am to be here and how honored I am to share with you what I consider some unbelievably important things. In fact, I kind of wish this weren't the case, but we find ourselves living in this thing we call reality,

where there's reality and then there's illusion, where there's truth and there's lies, where there is God and then the enemies of God, where there is liberty, and there's tyranny. And we need to take those things seriously. I think when I was your age, I wouldn't have realized that, Although I think I would have realized that more than most of the people around me, why? Because as I write in my book, Fish Out of Water, the story of my young life, up until I had my

dramatic conversion to God around my 25th birthday, my mom and dad were raised in countries that were not free. And if your parents grew up in countries that were not free, they tend to let you know how unbelievably freaking spoiled you are and how little you deserve to live in a country that's free. Now, let's start there. You need to understand you do not deserve to live in the United States of America.

It is a gift from God. It is an unbelievable privilege that people around the world are, in some cases, literally dying to have. And so if you don't understand what it is you have, fool. And most people, myself included, to some extent we are fools. We don't appreciate what it is we have. So the first thing, when you're talking about something like liberty or freedom in America, you really have to understand what it is, how rare it is, how preposterously rare it is, for people to be able to govern

themselves. What an insane idea it is. If you think it's normal, you've missed it. This is not normal. and you're seeing right now the threats to our liberty from every quarter are helping us see, oh, yeah, by the way, this is not normal. This will go away if you don't understand what it is you have and fight with everything you have to keep it. That's a fact. I wrote a book called If You Can Keep It, which I think most of you have today, right? And lately, whenever people ask me, you know, what's the most important book you've written? You've written all these books. What's the most important to me? You know, that's like saying, who's your favorite child? Like, you don't really want to answer that question. But if you can keep it, is the easiest to read and probably the most important of all the books that I have written. I will tell you, humbly, because it's true, that most the ideas in the books that I write, I didn't come up with myself. I feel privileged that somehow I find these things. And then,

I get all excited and freaked out about them, and then I say I have to write about this. Oz Guinness, some of you are familiar with him, wrote a book, has written many books. He's privileged to call him a friend. He wrote a book called The Free People's Suicide. And in that book, I was reading it just before it came out, actually. And he comes up with this thing called the Golden Triangle of Freedom. Now, I suspect most of you are not familiar with that idea. But when I understood what this was, I just couldn't believe that I had lived so long.

without understanding. This is effectively the secret formula of self-government and liberty. This is effectively how it works. And we, which is to say we Americans, have pretty much forgotten this, which is why we're spoiled and we don't seem to understand that what we have is a wild, insane idea in history, and we need to fight to preserve it, to understand what it is. So let me start with the basic idea of the Golden Triangle of Freedom, and then I'll tell you a little bit more about it. But this idea is so seminal. I mean, it's the kind of thing, if you have to get a tattoo, and by the way, you don't. But if you had to, but don't, because they're permanent, turns out they're permanent.

Yeah. But this is something, it's so seminal, so foundational to reality, to freedom, that I really, as I said, I couldn't believe it when I discovered it. And I said, I need to tell the world about this, because it will bless you and help you live. and help you keep the republic. So the basic idea is this. Okay. Now, did the person who introduced me mention that I had written for veggie tales? Yeah, I knew.

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I've done a lot of things like that, but I don't have time to get into it, but have kind of a weird background, but that's true. But that's got nothing to do with what I'm talking about right now. What I'm talking about right now is really serious, right? And so, Asginnis, in his book, calls it the Golden Triangle of Freedom. Now, the book that you have, if you can keep it, I talk about this and I explain it in depth

and I beg you to familiarize yourself with it. I beg you for the sake of the Republic. But in a nutshell, it's this. The Golden Triangle of Freedom is simply that. Freedom, which is liberty, which is self-government, right? You know, when you think about it, what does it mean to be free? It means I'm not free to do whatever the heck I want. It means I'm free to govern myself.

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This is not like optional. This is basic. You don't need to be an evangelical Christian to understand this, okay? You could be an Enlightenment rationalist like Franklin or Jefferson, anybody. They all understood that what they were talking about, what they were proposing, liberty, freedom, self-government, requires virtue. They further understood, freedom requires virtue, virtue requires faith, and then faith in turn requires freedom. So let me explain this. You sort of understand this intuitively, but we need to really understand what we mean by this.

So freedom requires virtue. Every one of the founders, without any exception, you need to understand, this is just history, okay? This is not like Christian history or what? This is history. Every one of the founders knew that this crazy idea. that people are going to govern themselves for the first time ever, it requires people of virtue. Now, it doesn't mean every single person is going to be a person of virtue, but it means a culture of virtue, a citizenry that's fundamentally virtuous. They understood this, that this is not

optional. This is not extra credit. If you do not have a virtuous citizenry, you do not get self-government. You cannot have liberty. You can't. That's a fact. Thank you very much. although I didn't invent that idea. You understand. Okay. So they understood this. And I want to be clear to you that every one of the founders understood this. So this is not some, you know, conservative idea. We're really not about conservatism, right? We're about truth. That's why we're conservatives. It's about truth. It's about history. It's about reality. And the reason you're conservative is because you say, this comports with reality. This is not some utopianist, illusionist, Marxist, trunel. fending philosophy. This is reality. And so the founders understood that if you want liberty, you need virtue. They also understood by observation that as much as liberty requires virtue, virtue requires faith. Now, they didn't have some illusion that everyone who is virtuous is a person of faith, but they observed, kind of like a sociologist observes. You don't have to agree with it. you just say, well, this is weird. People who are really serious about the God of the Bible

tend to be more virtuous or more, you know, they're not really, it's kind of interesting. We've just noticed this. Now, again, it doesn't necessarily even need to be the God of the Bible. The point is faith in something greater than oneself, faith in an order that is greater than oneself. Now, in colonial America, that tended to be people who believed in the God of the Bible. and that's not unimportant. But the point is the founder said, if we want liberty, we need virtue. And virtue requires faith.

A citizenry that believes in something larger than themselves, so they don't need someone to force them to do the right thing to be virtuous. Because if somebody's going to force you to do the right thing, you are a slave, you are no longer free. But to do it yourself, to govern yourself, not to need to be governed from without, or from above means I will do it because I believe it's the right thing, because I believe in doing

the right thing. I believe in virtue. Why do I believe in virtue? I believe in virtue because I believe there's a higher order. There's a God who demands of me the right thing. So I don't need the governor, the magistrate, the president, the king to tell me, to force me to do what is right. I do it of my own accord because the God of heaven requires it of me, and I take that seriously. Now, all the founders understood this. So now imagine, you say, well, here's the formula. In order to have liberty, we need virtue. In order to have virtue, we need faith.

So let's just compel faith. Well, if you compel it, you're no longer free. And by the way, we know that real faith cannot be compelled. It has to be free. So the founders said that we need to create a situation where faith is utterly free, where the government will not side with a denomination. It will not tell you when to go to church. It will not tell you whether to go to church.

It will not tell you to go to synagogue. It will not tell you to go to mosque. It will tell you nothing. It will say, we believe in freedom. We believe you will decide yourselves what you do because we believe that if faith is coerced, it's not faith. and we also believe that if faith is not coerced,

then it rises up freely and people own it themselves. People really take it seriously because it comes from within, because they do it because it's the right thing. So the conundrum, right? Freedom requires virtue. Virtue requires faith. Faith in turn requires freedom. You need religious liberty.

You need a government that says we will not take an stand on whether you worship, how you worship, if you want to be an atheist, a Jew, a Muslim, a Buddhist, this kind of a Christian, that kind of a Christian, a cafeteria Catholic. Any of those here? Just curious. Come on, there's got to be some hypocrites in the room. Come on, raise your hand. No. So the government says we can't compel that. So we have to trust that the people will govern themselves and that this will occur. And if it doesn't occur of its own accord, you can't be free. Freedom can't be forced. I think you get that. idea, right? Right. So what did the founders also see? Well, the founders, starting with Franklin, who is by no means like some doctrinaire, theologically Orthodox Christian, he observed that when

revival broke out in the 13 colonies, there's a chapter in the book on George Whitfield. George Whitfield, and again, if you want to know how broken things are, it's that this is not taught in public schools. This is as basic as it gets. George Whitfield, who was in a evangelist was as central to the formation of the United States of America as George Washington. That's not hyperbole. And I prove it in the book. You can see it. It's just, don't take my word for it. It's either true or it's not. But George Whitfield, Franklin observed as a young man, he saw Whitfield, you know, land in Philadelphia in 1738. And this was an evangelist who preached up and down the 13 colonies for a number of decades. Revival broke out. got crazy about the God of the Bible. Now, a lot of people went to church, but like a lot of you,

you can go to church and it doesn't really mean anything to you. These people found real faith, found a personal relationship with God, but what comes out of a personal relationship with the God of the Bible is inevitably pro-freedom. Because it says, well, if we're all equal in God's sight and God loves me as much as he loves those above me in the social order, it means that I answer to God, more than I answered to my superiors in the government or whatever, I answer directly to God, I don't steal because I want to honor God, not because there are rules and laws and people with guns to prevent me from stealing. I will be virtuous. So that follows, but it also follows that if you believe that, you also believe that those in authority over you

are also under God's authority, which leads to this egalitarian idea. that we will have no king but Jesus, as they would say in those days. We are all equal in God's sight, and we believe in the idea of government that says we can govern ourselves. We will not be forced by someone above us to do this or that. We will do what God requires of us. So Franklin and others observed that when revival broke out across the 13 colonies, suddenly crime went down, domestic abuse went down, alcoholism went down. When people got serious about the God of the Bible, the founders observed that the ability

for self-government went up. And they said, we think that we have a people for that reason and other reasons who are capable of governing themselves. The question is will they? So as he left the Constitutional Convention in 1787, Ben Franklin was famously asked by Mrs. Powell of Philadelphia. Dr. Franklin, what have you given us a monarchy or a republic? And he answered, some of you know this, a republic, madam, if you can keep it.

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And because of that, there was a serious question when you go into that place in Independence Hall in 1787 in that summer, will you be able to come out with this idea, with this constitution that says, yes, genuinely we can govern ourselves? Or are you going to come out of there saying, you know what, there's a reason we've never had a genuinely free people before? Because it doesn't work. People are selfish and people do what they want. They need somebody over them. It's not going to work. This republic thing, it's too radical.

It can't work. They literally didn't know. So when Mrs. Powell of Philadelphia says, what have you given us, Dr. Franklin, a monarchy or a republic? I always thought his answer was kind of this cheeky. If you know a little bit about Franklin, he was kind of this wit, you know. So it's a republic, madam, if you can keep it. And I realized, no.

He, off the cuff, he said this. But he meant, first of all, the question was genuine. This wasn't like, let me just ask this. this, these people really didn't know what have you been doing in that building for 100 days. Were you able to pull this off? This is what I said before. Do you understand how wild, insane, preposterous the idea of self-government is? If you understand that, you realize what happened in the Constitutional Convention, Independence Hall, in the summer 1787, it was essentially a miracle. It was at least a miracle of history. So he comes out and he says, a republic, madam, if you can keep it.

Now, that's the title of the book because what Franklin understood and what I've just shared with the Golden Triangle of Freedom is that if you don't keep the Republic, the Republic doesn't keep itself. The Constitution is worthless unless you live it out. The Constitution is worthless unless we the people take it to heart and live it out, live freely, do what is necessary to be free. So Franklin, Whoever that is, thank you. So Franklin understood, again, the irony, think how basic this is, that freedom cannot be compelled. It ceases to be free. So what are the guarantees? What is that piece of paper calls the Constitution? It's meaningless. If you don't know what it says and live it out, it's just sitting in a drawer.

It can't do anything by itself. It is inert paper and ink. It is we the people who have to understand it. In other words, the price of freedom. which is as radically different from serving under some tyranny or from some big government, is that you must do something. You are compelled to lift up the torch, to fight for freedom, to keep the republic. If you don't do that, someone will keep it for you.

They'll take it away from you. Whatever you have that is free, you must work to keep free. So this is at the heart of our troubles as a nation right now because since I was a kid, since the 60s, we've effectively ceased teaching these ideas. These ideas are radically pro-American. This is American exceptionalism. Now, you know American exceptionalism doesn't mean

we are better than other nationalities. It means that the ideas given to us by the founders, which we don't deserve, have given us a country and a freedom, which we don't deserve and which we need to understand and celebrate and praise and teach to our kids and make people understand that this is a gift from God to people in history that we don't deserve, but since we've been given it, we must do everything we can to understand it, to preserve it, and to try to keep the flame of liberty going, not just for ourselves, but for people around the world. who long to have what we have.

In other words, we have a holy burden. I mean, you understand this. I mean, the Bible says you're blessed to be a blessing, right? Now, those, if you have anything good, okay? If you are beautiful or handsome or rich or talented, or whatever it is that you have, is a gift from God to be used for his purposes to bless others, right?

So whatever you have, you have to figure out, okay, I have this gift. What can I do with this gift? The gift we have a freedom, for example, is a gift not for us, essentially. Now, God loves you and he wants you to be free, but he wants you to use that freedom for his purposes. And part of that means helping the Republic stay free,

keeping the Republic, understanding these ideas, coming to conferences like this, giving a darn even at your young age, because you understand this is why I was put on this planet, to do what is right and good and true, to have courage. That's why I'm here. That's why God has given me life and breath and the talents that I have and the opportunities that I have. And so when you cease teaching that in the schools, basically,

or when the culture gets spiritually dark as it has since I've been a kid, you get a culture that's living on fumes. And basically, or as Oz Guinness has put it, a cut-flower society. Like everything still looks okay, but you realize, but it's a cut flower. It's dying. That's effectively where we are. And since the 60s roughly,

we haven't taught these ideas. We haven't taught people that, for all our flaws, this is the greatest nation in the history of the world. Again, why? Because we're so great, no. We're no different than anyone else in the world. But we've been bequeathed these ideas to cherish, to preserve, to do everything we can.

Now, if you really understand that, you understand the burden on you that you have a role in keeping the republic. and either you're doing something about it or you're not. If you're not, you're part of the problem. Their father's help did slowly go by and feed them on your dreams, the one they picks, the one you know by. Don't you ever ask them why,

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last week in Washington, D.C. to the Young Americans Foundation. I considered it a very important speech. It was difficult to say some of the things I said, but I said them because I felt an urge to say them for the sake of my country. I hope you'll listen to it, and I hope you will please share it as you're able. And I think that we have to understand that this is not to lay a guilt trip, is that you've been given this glorious honor and this privilege, and to act as though it's nothing, to do nothing about it is grotesque.

You know, it's like getting an extraordinary gift, not saying thank you, not doing anything about it. We have some, we need to do something about the fact that we've been given this outrageous gift. And so I say that, to bring us to where we are today in America, we have not really done a good job with this. Those who've called themselves conservatives, and I would say going all the way back to Reagan, Reagan is not guilty of this. God bless Ronald Reagan for being a hero, for understanding there's evil in the world, for standing against communism. But I want to tell you that there were many in what we today might call. the deep state or the bureaucracy who said, Reagan, you are way too hot-headed. You need to tone it down.

You're crazy. Take it easy. We can have detente with the Soviet Union, which is a nice way of saying, who gives a damn about the people rotting in the gulag? We don't care. We got a good thing going here. We don't want war. We don't want bellicose words. Be nice. And Reagan thought, how can I be nice? empire that harms people on a level that most of you people in foggy bottom in your comfortable lives, you don't have any idea of the suffering around the world. And if I have the opportunity to spread the ideas of freedom in history, God forbid that I would be silent about it. Shame on you for asking me to be silent about it.

Shame on you. And we are there today. We've had plenty of people that would think of Reagan, who, who, you, who, you, for asking me to be silent about it. would think of Trump as a, why do you have to be so belligerent about it? Well, folks, if somebody is doing a grave injustice and you say, well, I'm just going to ignore that and let's just focus on the nice stuff, you know, you're complicit in the grave injustice. So whatever's going on around the world, whatever's going on around around this country, we're on the hook for that. We have to speak up about it. So when I see people who claim to be conservatives or in the GOP, who are not

willing to fight the way Reagan was willing to fight and the way Trump was willing to fight, you don't need to love Trump, but I have to tell you, you know, when somebody says, I'm going to fight for what is true, I'm going to fight for Brett Kavanaugh. Now, most members of the GOP would not have done what Trump did, would not have stood up for Kavanaugh. I want to be really blunt with you because I know from history, I know who these players are, they would have said, well, let's let this one go. Let them have this one. Well, if that had happened, Roe v. Wade would have not been overturned. I hope you understand what an insanely wonderful thing it is that Roe v. Wade was overturned. So when you talk about civility, if somebody is pointing a gun at your head or is pointing a gun

at the head of your parent or your child, you have to be aware of what is happening. We're living a time right now when the forces of cultural Marxism in all of their guises, critical race theory, the transgender madness, all this stuff is madness. And if you're a parent trying to raise your kids in America, you look around and you go, are there any adults in the room to shut this down? What is happening? But there are a lot of cowards. There are a lot of people who really don't want to step into the fight. They would rather just, you know, have a nice, life and pretend that somehow we can go back to 2019 or to 24, whatever they think. Well, folks, that would be nice if it were possible, but it's not possible.

There are people, two days ago, a friend of mine, Simone Gold, a medical doctor, a brave woman, a medical doctor and a lawyer, went to jail because she was on the grounds of the Capitol on January 6th. Now, let me tell you something. If Mike Pence can get up here at this podium and not talk about that, it's hard for me to care what else he has to say. It doesn't mean that I don't agree with most of what he had to say or that I don't like him because that's not true. I do.

But I want to tell you we're living at a time when if you can look the other way when innocent people are being used to crush dissent. Folks, that is evil. Can you think of another word for that? When you're being told, oh, by the way, shut up. We don't want to hear your testimony. We want to hear your narrative. My radio program, okay, which is not half as serious as this speech, okay?

We joke around, we talk about this, we talk about that. Sometimes we'll talk about serious things. My entire radio program was on YouTube. and the folks at YouTube, who effectively are cultural Marxists, if you want to know what people are made of, just watch how they behave. They took the whole program off of YouTube. Why? Because I dared to have on Naomi Wolf, who was a... She was in my class at Yale. She's a liberal feminist.

She came on the program and talked about vaccine passports and saying, we're drifting in the direction of China. This is very, very, very, very, very bad for America. We need to speak up about this. That is extremely true. Because of that, YouTube shut down my entire program. Now, again, if you don't have a dog in the fight and you say, you know, I'm not sure what I think about vaccine passports,

I'm not sure what I think about vaccines, I'm not sure what I think about the election if it was stolen. I don't know what I think. If you don't know what you think, watch how the people behave who are on the other side. Are they generous? or do they simply want to crush dissent? If they want to crush dissent, folks, that is Marxism.

If you want to crush dissent, you don't believe in freedom. You can talk about freedom. But if you want to crush dissent, you want to say, it's time to move on, let's move on. So if somebody like Mike Pence is talking about all these good things, but doesn't mention that most of the country doesn't believe that the election was fair, even if you think it was fair, you need to care about what we, the people,

And when we the people are told, shut up, don't bring that up. If you bring that up, you'll pay a price. What does that tell you? Folks, the headline is, we need your help. What do I mean by that? I mean at least three things by that. Number one, if it's possible for you to get to be part of our studio audience, August 3rd, 4th, and 5th and 8th in New York, this week, it starts about 4 o'clock

every day. We're taping the late night, the talk show with Eric Metaxus. It is a mainstream TV talk show. We don't have time to get into it now, but it's nuts. We've got a lot of mainstream guests. It's going to be a blast. We can't share most of it with you yet. But if you can get there, go to Eric Mataxis.com. You'll see where it says speaking or schedule, whatever, and you click on it. Every day you can sign up through Eventbrite. We'd love you there all four days or just one day. You can bring as many people as you want to sign them up. But this is going to be a wild, fun thing. We need some fun, folks. We need some fun because there's a lot of tough stuff going on, but we want you to be there. Please do what you can. That's number one. Number two,

if you follow me on social media, let me just ask you, instead of liking what I put there, would you retweet it or would you share it? Would you share it on Facebook? I'm trying to get a lot of information out. And I don't think I've ever said this before, but a lot of times people will like something. We need to get the word out. We are being suppressed. We know that what we're doing, whether we're being shadow banned, I don't mean to sound like, you know, like the, like chicken little. This is actually, or not chicken little. Who am I looking for? Oh, the boy you cried wolf. This is actually happening. We need your help, folks, to multiply our message. Everything we put out, it's a struggle. So whatever you can do to help us. And speaking of helping us, as you know,

every couple times a year, we try to raise funds for an organization that we think worthy. At the top of the list is Food for the Poor. Food for the Poor is an amazing Christian non-profit relief organization. They go where there is a need. And I just want to tell you, right now, they are helping families who have fled the Ukraine. Now, we don't need to get into the politics of it. These are people that are suffering. And we want to show them the love of God. We want to help them. Food for the Poor, I can't think of anybody that I would trust more to do that. So Food for the Poor is partnering with a number of Christian organizations, relief organizations, ministry partners to get food, literal food, to these families that have fled their homes.

They've left everything behind. If you know anybody who's ever been through anything like this, my parents experienced this kind of thing, it's hellish. And we want to show them the love of God. So I want to ask you simply to call this number to help, or you can just go to the banner. Our banner is metaxis talk.com. That's the radio banner. We want you to give.

We want you to give generously. We just want everybody who listens to this program. to do what you can. By God's grace, we are able to do something. Let's do what we can. So please go to Metaxistalk.com. Or you can call this number. I'll give it to you right now. 844-863 hope. Please dial that number. Please give what you can now. It's August 1st. We don't have a lot of time to do this. It's always a struggle. God bless you as you give. 844-863 hope. 844-8-6-3. 8-4-8-6-6. hope. These are people that are struggling and we need to do what we can to help them. 844-863 hope. 844-863 hope. Metaxistocococon.com. You'll see the banner there.

And Albin and I will shortly let you know everybody who gives anything. We will put your names in a in a hat, so to speak, proverbial hat. And we'll have a number of grand prize winners. We want to give you sign books and all kinds of things. And I always say, say anybody who can give $10,000 as tax deductible, I'd be delighted to have dinner with you, to spend an evening with you. We always manage to make that work. So remember 844-863 Hope, 844-863 hope, or go to Metaxus talk.com. God bless you.