The Eric Metaxas Show - Eric Swithin

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

Eric Swithin on a new film on miracles on "Show Me Your Glory" in theaters now. https://www.fathomentertainment.com/releases/show-me-your-glory/ ...

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Starting point is 00:00:51 Eric Pataxon. Welcome back, continuing our conversation with Naomi Wolf. So, Naomi, you were just about to give the second thing that a surgeon general, Casey means could be the next surgeon general, what they might be able to do. as Surgeon General. So go ahead. The third thing. First is promote the use of biometric harvesting products. Second is actually transfer data to third-party platforms. And the third thing is to be a conduit. I don't know what kinds of NDAs people in government signed these days, but I know that the Trump
Starting point is 00:01:34 administration and RFK Jr. are not having applicants sign NDAs. That was one reason I didn't go forward with seeking even to be assessed by them. And as a result, if you've got a surgeon general sitting in on those meetings in your Google or SpaceX or Twitter, you'll know what's coming up. And that's a form essentially of legal insider trading. So for all of those reasons, she's a very corrupt pick as well as just not being qualified as a surgeon. And so as a result, strongly recommend that she not move forward, but this is a bigger picture, like Silicon Valley has been trying to get in in various ways since the start of the Trump administration to breach our security in the ways that I've described. So why would RFK Jr. not know?
Starting point is 00:02:31 I mean, he may well know, but again, he's not at liberty. None of them are to make all their own decisions without strong oppositions supporting. But they don't, neither do they have to be cheerleaders. I mean, he could just keep his mouth shut. But it seems like he and, and Marty McCary and others were saying, this is great. In other words, I get the impression they actually think it's great, not that they have been strong armed and to go on going on. You can't tell from the talking points what someone really thinks. And I can't venture to know, but I do know that there, that President Trump was running a campaign that wasn't winning until after his assassination attempt in July of last year. And then all of a sudden, big tech kind of aligned in support
Starting point is 00:03:20 of his agenda. Elon Musk came in. Zuckerberg sort of aligned. Bezos sort of aligned. They were all sitting behind him at the inauguration. His first announcement was about AI. So I think there's been a deal done, you know? Okay. All right. Well, you know, when what's interesting to me is, and you would get this better than anyone, the way Trump was badly fooled in 2020, because he didn't know that world. I mean, the man is clearly a genius, but he can't know everything. And he was horribly fooled, as many good people were. Horribly, horribly fooled. But then eventually you see, it, China, the World Health Organization, there's just wickedness, and we didn't see it coming. We didn't know.
Starting point is 00:04:10 We didn't know either. Yeah. We, well, this is similar. In other words, I could see people, and Elon Musk is at the top of the list. There is a naivete about the horrific dangers of any of this stuff you've talked about, neural implants, whatever. There's something transhuman, disturbing, and if you have a moral compass, you begin to get worried about this. But if you're just some kind of a tech, you know, Asperger's super genius, you're not thinking about that. You're going to go to Mars and we're going to do all this great stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:48 You're simply not thinking of the downside. It's just not on your radar. It's just all upside. And you know, and I know it's not all upside. It is potentially horrific. Yeah, I mean, everything I just said for the last 20 minutes is very technical and nerdy. And if I didn't happen to have been in this space for the last 10 years, I wouldn't have been able to explain it either or recognize it.
Starting point is 00:05:16 So I don't blame President Trump or even his chief of staff. They're both from a pre-internet generation for not understanding it. But I will say Elon Musk fired a third of the IT people. when he came on board for Doge or someone did, an anonymous email, and then 21 high-level technologists in the cybersecurity space resigned, and they wrote a letter to the White House saying, we can't secure the people's data anymore. We're not going to work under these conditions.
Starting point is 00:05:49 So the very people who would have been able to say to the president or to Susie Wiles, this is dangerous or this is corrupt, are no longer there. And this is because President Trump trusted Elon. Elon Musk with this, and you're saying that Elon Musk knew what he was doing. You're saying that, and I think Banon would agree with you, Steve Bannon. He doesn't seem to like Elon Musk. And again, I'm always puzzled when people that I like or trust disagree strongly. So you think that Elon Musk had nefarious intent in getting this data? Well, first to be clear, we don't know who sent the anonymous email firing a third of the IT workforce, the cybersecurity workforce. And I don't think Musk had the authority to actually fire people. But the 21 people who resigned with their names on the resignation letter really sounded the alarm. They brought this story to a lot of major news outlets.
Starting point is 00:06:53 They really try it hard to warn the administration. Elon Musk, how can I put it, he isn't even being nefarious, right? You've got to understand what a deep conflict of interest this is. He still was in charge of his company's XAI, for instance, and building his own AI while he was working for Doge. This is a direct conflict of interest because he's legally obligated to give his shareholders as much value as possible, even as he's, you know, probably legally, but certainly more obligated to give the president, the people of the United States, their priority care.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And those are in direct conflict because his shareholders could sue him if he didn't. I'm so sorry. His shareholders could sue him if he didn't go after our data, right? So it's a conflict. Well, okay, maybe. I guess I get the impression from listening to him talk that Elon Trump, yeah, Elon Trump, I said that. Elon Musk, I believe, we can check, loves America.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I get that impression. I don't doubt it. Well, no, no. I'm saying, so that's one data point. The second data point is it's the boy who cried wolf. When people, government bureaucrats in IT start raising the alarm, you think anything that Trump does, they will raise the alarm and raise the concerns like they're raising about due process. But in other words, they will do anything.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And we are now in this difficult position of having to figure out, do we listen to them? Because we get the impression that they do not either love America or align with our values and that they will simply say anything. So we're in a very tough spot. At least I find that I am. Okay. I hear you, but respectfully, I really disagree with that. Sure, the Democrats, the DNC, are using the cybersecurity problems caused by Musk. and I'm going to say, you know, by the nomination of Casey Means,
Starting point is 00:08:58 as fodder against President Trump. But the cybersecurity workers in the White House are nonpartisan. They're there to serve the American people. So if they raise the alarm... theoretically, Naomi, I'm just saying they've so undermined their credibility that even if they are right, which they may well be, it's destroyed our ability, most people's ability to trust them. At least that's where I'm coming from.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I hear you, but you're throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Yeah, potentially, yeah. Yeah. Also, you know, cybersecurity is a very big deal, right, for any tech company, let alone the government of the United States of America. And, you know, if there are cybersecurity people raising the alarm, find out more. You know, there should be here to find out what the story really is. There should be an, you know, I mean, the obvious thing to do if you're President Trump is get an independent cybersecurity treat team to do an independent valuation.
Starting point is 00:09:59 To my knowledge, he didn't do that. I'm so sorry, I have to go. Yeah, no, no, no, we're going to let you go. We're so grateful, Naomi, the reason I wanted to have you on is because I want to hear this stuff. And the president's team needs to hear this stuff. So, God bless you. Thanks for coming on. Thank you so much.
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Starting point is 00:12:15 Hey folks, I think I mentioned it's Miracle Monday. Now, the miraculous happens every day. But because Miracle starts with an M, I had this clever idea because everybody knows I'm very witty. I had this clever idea to say, hey, Monday, weirdly, also begins with an M. Don't get freaked out. But what are the odds? 25 letters? We need to do this.
Starting point is 00:12:51 It's a sign. Miracle Monday. So many Mondays we do a miracle Monday where we talk about the miraculous. I keep saying that I've experienced the miraculous a lot, not as much as I would like. But I want people understand that this is normative. God speaks to us. He's real. It's not just for some religious people.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And in fact, some particularly religious people, it's definitely not for them. They're not interested in this stuff. But we are. We're crazy like that. So today, we're bringing about. back onto the show, somebody we had on a year or so ago. Eric Swithin, who is launching tomorrow in theaters, a new film called Show Me Your Glory. Eric Swithin, welcome back.
Starting point is 00:13:37 So glad to be here. It's good to see you. Good to see you. And you were with us in the studio last time. You are in Florence, Alabama. That is home for you. It is. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Okay. In a nutshell, why? Why? Well, similar to in your book on The Miraculous, how you were led in such a beautiful way to write Bonhoeffer, we followed the breadcrumbs of the Lord and ended up in a place where we have no family. We have new friends here, but we didn't have anybody here other than my dad who was about an hour away. So it all kind of started with my dad getting diagnosed with terminal cancer. We came out here to take care of him about an hour north of here and ended up moving here full time. Well, I know the last time you were on, you told a little bit about your testimony.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I want to talk about the film, Show Me Your Glory, which is, what is the subtitle, when the supernatural crashes? What is that? Yeah, it's about when the supernatural crashes into human suffering. And ultimately, that started with my own story, right? as a United States Marine serving on the battlefield, seeing and doing things that were devastating. And it led me into a spiritual crisis. Not only that, but just seeing the world around us,
Starting point is 00:15:01 all the evil and all the suffering led me on a 20-year academic pursuit of trying to understand that problem. And then that collides with this idea that we're seeing the miraculous around us all the time, including in my own life. I became a Christian through an incredible and miraculous encounter with the divine. And so you look around, you're seeing all this evil, you're seeing all this suffering, but then simultaneously you see some of these miraculous things. And you have to ask the
Starting point is 00:15:25 question, if God is perfect, if he is all loving and all powerful, he's sovereign, why doesn't he do more miracles to alleviate some of that suffering? So that's our film. Our film is entertaining and transformational. It sits at the intersection of suffering and the miraculous. The miraculous is birthed out of suffering 99% of the time. And so we wanted to address that question. Well, this is one of the questions. I do this thing for 25 years. I've been doing this thing called Socrates in the city. And when it all started, I thought, what is the ultimate question? Everybody has the ultimate question. Why does a good God allow suffering? That's the question. And I think that anyone who doesn't wonder about that is brain dead. That is
Starting point is 00:16:14 or has no soul because there is suffering in the world, and we are, we're meant to be horrified by it. We're not supposed to be indifferent to it, but we love God and we want to know, why does God allow it? And then many of us have seen God move miraculously, so we know God is real. So it's the ultimate question. So I know that's in your film, show me your glory. I obviously want to talk about that. and I know it's in theaters this week, like tomorrow. So I hope people will check it out.
Starting point is 00:16:46 But before we get to that, give us your testimony a little bit because you talked about that last time of what happened to you. You said you were 18. Tell us a little bit about this. Well, I've had three profound encounters with the divine. I don't know why I was fortunate enough to experience these things. There's nothing special about me. I'm just a normal person.
Starting point is 00:17:08 But I had these miraculous encounters, one of which was on January. 4th in the year 2000. Prior to that, I'd been stabbed in a gang fight. I was a criminal. I was living on the streets. I was a drug addict. I was destined to be dead at a young age or end up in prison for a very long time. And in a last ditch effort, mind you, like no Christian background, no spiritual context,
Starting point is 00:17:34 maybe a little bit of the occult, if anything. I cried out in a last ditch effort before swallowing a bullet. And I said, God, if you're real, I don't care if you're Santa Claus, Harry Krishna, if you're Mohammed, if you're Jesus, like, if you can prove to me and show me in this moment that I'm worth anything to you, that there's any purpose to my life, then I won't do this. I'll dedicate my life to you. But otherwise, I'm tired and I'm done. And in that moment, I encountered a divine being who is utterly holy.
Starting point is 00:18:07 In fact, what's weird is that that word holy, right? I didn't even know what that word meant. I had no idea what the word holy meant. But in that moment, for some reason, I knew in revelation, deep in my heart, what that word meant. And that's what he is. He is holy, perfect, pure light, and I am not. And in that moment, I knew there was some gaping divide between us. And he gave me an opportunity to bridge that divide through the grace that we could receive through Jesus on the cross.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Now, you mentioned something before. First of all, you said you were 18 years old. Correct. And you said before I swallowed a bullet, specifically, what are you talking about there? What were you going to do? I was going to end my life. I was exhausted. I'd lost everything.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I was alone. I was by myself. And I felt like that was the best and most reasonable way out. And you had a gun? Yeah. Yeah. Where'd you get this gun at age 18? I knocked on a relative's door.
Starting point is 00:19:08 as I was going into massive drug withdraws the night before. And she had actually kicked me out of her house weeks prior for stealing things from her. And by the grace of God, she let me into her home. But she did have some home protection in her house that was accessible to me. And she ended up going to work. And so that was my plan. Wait until she goes to work and we'll do this thing. So you cry out to God.
Starting point is 00:19:36 you barely know who he is. You don't know who he is. And he answers you in what way? In other words, his presence fills the room and you know you're dealing with God. Somehow you know. Yeah, and I always explain, you know, visually, I can't see through the tears.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I'm weeping so hard in his presence. And I don't even want to look up. My face is on the ground. And there's this verse in Revelation, Chapter 1, where John encounters a vision of God, and he falls to his face as though he was dead. That's how it describes it. He literally collapses like a dead person at the feet of God. And that was kind of the state that I was in. I knew I was in the presence of God. There was zero doubt whatsoever. And far be it from me to open my eyes and look in his direction. I kept my face on the ground. And I embraced this encounter I was experiencing. It was far beyond anything I could describe. And what did you do at that point? Did you know what do you? Yeah. What? What? Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:20:37 did you do? I mean, so you clearly didn't kill yourself, but what, what do you do right after this? You know, it's very strange, never really understanding the gospel. And then in an immediate moment I knew, kind of like with your book on Bonhoeffers, like you have this moment of clarity that's outside of yourself where it's almost like you're downloaded, right? Think about the movie Matrix where he's buckled into a chair and he learns kung fu in 30 seconds because he's buckled into this chair and they download it to, you know, his mainframe. Well, ultimately, that was me. In that moment, I understood that God is perfect. I am not, but he desires to be in relationship with me, right? So we have this problem. We're separated. He's holy. I'm not. In fact,
Starting point is 00:21:23 if I'm in his holy presence in my current condition, I would probably explode or disintegrate. That is the difference. It'd be like trying to build a snowman and a fireplace. It ain't happening. But in that moment, I had this divine revelation. I knew that that's what Jesus had done. He'd provided a way to deal with this problem. In fact, it was the perfect justice of God that needed to be met. And so Jesus meets that demand.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And now the judge is putting the handcuffs on Jesus rather than me. My debt is paid. And now I'm reconciled to this loving God. I knew in that moment. You somehow knew all this, which is amazing. That's sometimes how the Lord works. amazing. It happened to me in my conversion in a similar way. It's sort of like these, these paragraphs are just dropped into your head, like, you know, and you know, and it's hard
Starting point is 00:22:16 to explain. But what did you just got 30 seconds here, but what did you do immediately after that? Did you start going to church? What did you do? It gave me very specific instructions. Get a job. Go apologize to my mom. She's a single mom at the time. Go to those crazy people at your school. They're always talking about Jesus and tell them what happened to you. Start to go to church, read the Bible. That was it. I knew those exact specific. That was the words of God, what I'm supposed to do. And I did it. Unstinkin-believable, as they say in the scripture. Honestly, I love to hear these stories. The film is Show Me Your Glory. You can go to the website. Folks, we're going to talk more after the break. Showmeyourglory.com. Show meyourglory.com. Show meyour glory.com.
Starting point is 00:23:02 check it out show me your glory dot com be right back with eric swithin I'm talking to eric swithin uh he's behind the film show me your glory dot com that's actually the website the film is show me your glory when the supernatural crashes into human suffering so eric um are you the producer the director like how did you come to be involved with the film. You know, even better than that. I was the creator, director, producer, but I was also the water boy. I was a stunt man at one point. My wife made me do a very dangerous stunt because of insurance reasons. So I wore about eight hats in this project. And you, and so the film is in theaters tomorrow and this week. And the website is show me your glory.com. So, okay, so what is the
Starting point is 00:24:14 film? What's in the film? What are people going to see? Well, as I mentioned, it sits at the intersection of suffering and the miraculous, right? And understanding this deist mindset that God is somehow absent from our world is, it's a lie because we see the miraculous constantly. And we know that even science is catching up to this. And there's verifiable evidence of this stuff now. So we wanted to dive into the intellectual side of the miraculous and also into the heart. And with that, we scoured the earth looking for the eight bests, best stories that we could possibly find.
Starting point is 00:24:49 We narrowed it down to 16, which are all in our book, come out exactly the same day as the release of the film. But we put eight of these stories in the film. What's the title of the book? Show Me Your Glory. So there's a book. There's a book. Show me your glory.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And the film comes out tomorrow. Okay. So, yeah, I am, as I say, fascinated with the miraculous. I wrote a book called Miracles, where I recount many miracles. stories and there are many more that I've seen and people that I know it's real and I want to encourage people. God is real, folks. Whatever you, whatever is going on. I can just tell you, that's a fact. God is real. The God of the Bible is real. It's not whatever. It's the God of the Bible. And I think it's very important that we try to communicate that because there's a hunger. A lot of people
Starting point is 00:25:39 are so hungry to know, is it real? Is it real? So what are some of the stories in the film, show me your glory that is coming out tomorrow? Well, I'll give you a little taste. It has three categories of the miraculous. Your book, I think, had like seven or eight, which I loved, by the way. Our categories, number one, are miraculous healings, where we have verifiable evidence, and we have ways of corroborating it. I think they would hold up in a court of law. Category two are miraculous encounters where people's lives were radically transformed, not dissimilar to mine. And category three are those who responded miraculously.
Starting point is 00:26:16 to human suffering. They didn't get the miracle they prayed for, but the way they responded was absolutely bonkers. And so a little taste of that, we have someone whose healing is recorded on audio, and we actually share that audio in the film, which is really special. Now, how can a healing be recorded on audio?
Starting point is 00:26:38 What do you mean by that? Well, I'm sure you've heard of the story of Mr. Dwayne Miller, whose voice was utterly destroyed. He was on the way to being mute. and doctors, over 200 specialists in Houston, Texas, told him that it was inevitably he was going to be able to, or never going to be able to speak again. And he was caught while preaching on the miraculous at First Baptist Church in Houston, Texas with a specialized microphone,
Starting point is 00:27:04 be barely able to get words out. And right there on audio, his voice was miraculously healed. You can hear his wife screaming and crying in the background. It was pretty wild. No, I don't know of his story. And you tell me, this happened in a Baptist church. That's the hilarity, a Baptist church. Yeah, 100%. And category two, here's a cool one for you. So supernatural encounters, we have a Hezbollah terrorist, a Hezbollah soldier who has literally, this guy has killed a ton of people in the name of Allah thinking he's doing something good for God, who met God, had an encounter with Jesus in a Malaysian jail cell, and immediately abandoned his Islamic faith.
Starting point is 00:27:45 man i i i i love these stories this is amazing it's kind of funny because you know when you mentioned uh this miracle uh in a baptist church this keeps happening to me where i meet baptists who've had these absolutely miraculous experiences and they say now i'm like you know uh i don't know they they have they have a funny term uh you know uh baptist costel or pentabaptist or something like Because they, you know, they, right? It's, but what fascinates me, really, of course, disturbs me is when I hear somebody, the other day I heard Pastor John MacArthur on an Instagram thing. Now, this is somebody I respect deeply, but I think he's simply wrong on the miraculous.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And I understand his caution because I think. think folks like that, it's, you know, they have some cartoon caricatured version of when they think that, you know, you don't care about the scripture, you just care about experience, which is a lie. That's a lie, because there's so many people that I know that have trafficked in every kind of miracle and healing and deliverance. They care more about the scripture than anybody. They care certainly as much as John McCarthy does.
Starting point is 00:29:11 There's no doubt about that because the God is the God of the Scripture. But what amazes me is you get a lot of folks like John McCarthy, they feel some obligation to denigrate the miraculous. And they sound when they're doing that just like atheists. It's bizarre. Like they say, oh, yeah, they're faking it. There's never any proof. You know, they say this stuff, which is simply not true.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I mean, just because there are frauds doesn't mean there's not the real thing. It's like saying every preacher is a fraud because I encountered a preacher who was a fraud. He was a liar and he was living a lie and therefore all preachers are, you know, it's bad logic. But you get a lot of people doing that. R.C. Sproll was kind of like that. It's very, I'm always shocked because I think if you know God, you know, you have to at least be open to the miraculous and to this kind of stuff. So, because, boy, you're missing it. We're going to be right back.
Starting point is 00:30:08 The film is out tomorrow. Show me your glory. You can find out details that show me your glory. dot com back folks talking to eric swithin uh the man behind the film show me your glory and the book show me your glory and the book comes out tomorrow and the film is in theaters tomorrow is that correct that's it okay so the book you said that there's 16 miraculous stories in the book the film uh you had room for eight miraculous stories can you can you share another couple of these stories what are appetites because i love hearing these stories yeah so we did things
Starting point is 00:30:57 backwards. You know, typically you write a book and then you make a movie off the book, but we were so overwhelmed with these stories and this information. When we were in the editing room, I only was able to cut certain things out because I knew that I could put it into the book, that these facts, these amazing stories, our subject matter expert material wasn't going to be lost. It could go somewhere for people to see. And I think when people see this film, it's one of those things. It is entertaining. 100%. A lot of films are entertaining.
Starting point is 00:31:33 But some films are not just entertaining. They also transform. I believe this film will deeply impact people. I think they'll be talking about it for a long time to come. But I think that they're going to be so curious after this to hear more about these stories and to hear other stories that they're going to want to go get the book. So I'm glad
Starting point is 00:31:48 we had that. Another story that's in the film that's near and dear to my heart is one where this lady hasn't told her story to hardly anybody. She hadn't even told her parents this story because it was so embarrassing and it was so private. And she went in her life to such a dark place that when we met her, she had to really pray and consider whether she was going to get in front of a camera and tell the whole world. And her story is not just a miracle of healing physically, but her story is also a near-death experience. And her story is also a life transformation.
Starting point is 00:32:24 So she literally fills up most all the categories. And to this day, many years later, she's still living a beautiful, healthy life. She just got married. It's like the ultimate underdog story. It's one of those things where if you see her story, you're going to think in your mind, no one, no one. And I mean no one is too far gone to be transformed by Jesus. Nobody.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Wow. I mean, can you say more about how far gone she was? What do you mean by that? she died twice from drug overdose and she'd been living on the streets. But more than that, I mean, she was utterly demon possessed. In fact, we dealt with some of that on the film set while we were filming her. And what was nuts was her footage was lost. And we had to fly her back in from Santa Fe to Alabama.
Starting point is 00:33:17 And we also had to fly someone, one of our characters from England, back over here, to refilm. And the person we filmed the second time was not the person we filmed the first time. And so this woman has gone from utter darkness to being a bright light. I mean, I just love, I love this stuff. I don't think I asked you, why is the film titled Show Me Your Glory? Was that something that you said or somebody said or what, why, where'd that come from? You know, it's a Bible verse from Exodus 33, where Moses, after having been face to face with God, like a friend is with a friend. He has the audacity to ask God, show me your glory.
Starting point is 00:34:00 And that means show me your face. In other words, he's like, I've seen you face to face like a friend, but I know you were holding back. I know you were doing that for my benefit. I want to see more of who you really are. I want to see your presence unfiltered, so to speak. And God says, he doesn't correct them, which I love. It shows how good of a father he is.
Starting point is 00:34:18 He didn't correct them and say, how dare you ask me that? He says, okay, you can't handle that, but I'll do the next best thing. I'll hide you in these rocks over here and I'll let you catch a glimpse of me. And we know, you know, Moses's face was shining to the point where he had to wear a veil so he didn't scare the bejesus out of everybody when they saw him. So that's where it comes from. It's Moses saying, Lord, show me your glory. And we want to say the same thing as children.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I don't think God is offended by our honesty. We can say, you know, God, I know that it's by faith that we're saved. and I know that it's not by sight. But I sure would love to see you move. And I think that's where Baptists struggle. I go to a Baptist seminary for my doctorate now. And in their defense, I think what happens is like, we pray for people again and again and again.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And guess what? They don't get a miracle. They don't see it. And as a pastor, you know how discouraging that is to see people die that you're praying for, that you genuinely want to live. But it might be that 50th prayer you get to see a miracle.
Starting point is 00:35:18 It might be that 60th prayer. and one of our experts in our film, he says it best, and it's so simple but profound. He says, more miracles occur in places where people pray for miracles more. So as ministers, we kind of alleviate our responsibility. We forfeit our responsibility by creating these theologies that say that, hey, this stuff doesn't happen anymore. So now I don't have the responsibility of praying for people that are sick and dying.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I would say, take a risk and ask God, say, God, I would love to encounter you. would love for you to show me your glory. But if you don't, I still trust you. And I have the encouragement of all these other people who have and all these amazing stories. They can read your book, Eric, and be utterly dumbfounded by all the miracles that are still happening, even to this very day. I mean, I'm glad you're aware of my book. I wrote the book. I wasn't going to write the book, but somebody kind of badgered me into it. And then I thought, okay, I won't tell about my miracles because I've experienced a bunch of them. And I'll write about them in a book, which is the sequel to my book, Fish Out of Water. Fish Out of Water tells my story from, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:28 my birth to when I had my born again experience or my 25th birthday. But since then, I've had all these miracles. And I said, I want to put them in a book. But in my book miracles, I want to, I want to write about mostly miracles of people that I knew. People that had told me stories, I go, that's just insane. I got to write that down. And I got to give it journalistic detail. So people can't say, well, it's like it's clear. This is, this stuff is real. So that's why I wrote my book Miracles. But obviously, it's why we do Miracle Monday on this program. There's so many other miracles. Your story, the stories in this film. So I want people to know that the film is out tomorrow. Ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow in theaters, show me your glory. And if you go to the website,
Starting point is 00:37:12 show me your glory.com. I assume there's more information there. Eric. that they can find at showmeyourglory.com. Yeah, there's a free devotional. You can access the book. There's a bunch of resources. And I want to clarify, our film is in theaters, May 13th, 14th, and 15th.
Starting point is 00:37:29 It's three days, but what we're seeing are certain theaters are filling up. And in those areas where theaters are filling up, we're moving into the weekend. There's opportunities. If people are willing to go see this in theaters, it's going to tremendously help us. And you may know this, you may not,
Starting point is 00:37:45 but our film was 100% funer raised by our ministry and all of the proceeds, 100% of the net proceeds go directly towards our ministry, not only to end the fatherless epidemic in America, but a wide variety of other beautiful causes. All right, man, this is fantastic. Folks, step up. You'll be blessed. I hope you already know that.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Show me your glory. Show me your glory.com's a website. Eric Swithin. God bless you, man. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. Hey there, folks. Welcome back. This is our two. I want to ask you a question. Are you rethinking your child's educational path? Are you wondering if their current school truly supports your family's values? Well, if you're thinking about this, you're not exactly alone. The Herzog Foundation is here to help. With the Trump administration working to abolish the Federal Department of Education, hurrah, and return control to the states, there's never been a better time to explore Christian education.
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Starting point is 00:40:08 This is a big deal. I've been sharing about it on the program. We have an opportunity. if you're listening to me on this program, every one of us has an opportunity to be modern day abolitionists, to not just to add, actually it's more than being a modern day abolitionist. Abolitionists advocate against slavery. We have the opportunity actually to free slaves.
Starting point is 00:40:43 And we've done this every year with CSI. They have connections in Sudan. And this is one of these amazing things. I've never been to Africa, much less to Sudan. The things that go on in the world, horrible, horrible things. We know that in the 90s, many, many Christians were enslaved by radical Muslims. And when the UN got involved and ended that war, they did not free those who had already been enslaved. enslaved. So we get to do that because of CSI because they're already there and this is what they do.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And we've talked about it on the program. They trade cattle vaccines with these Falani tribesmen. They do all kinds of things to free these slaves and then to bring them to walk them to a new territory into a life of freedom. And then they set them up in a life of freedom. We've talked about it with Kevin McCau. on the program and with Todd Chapman. And the only thing that remains is for you to help us. So in order to do that, you go to metaxis talk.com. The website, it's actually our radio website, metaxis talk.com. The top of the page, you will see a banner.
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