The Eric Metaxas Show - Erick Stakelbeck and Laura Klassen

Episode Date: November 4, 2022

Erick Stakelbeck has an incredible lineup of guests for his TBN program on the eve of the mid-terms; then, Laura Klassen of Choice42.com provides an update on her new pulls-no-punches film, "The Procedure."

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And if you're a TBN watcher, you're familiar with my friend Eric Stackleback. And I just got breaking news, ding-da-ding-ding-dain-dain-d-d-d-breaking news that he is doing a special Monday the 7th. That's the day before election day. It's called Restoring America. He has such a raft of big-shot guests that I thought, why don't I get Eric Stackleback on this program to talk about what he's going to do on TBN on Monday, November 7th. And here he is. Eric, Shacklebeck, welcome.

Eric, great to be back with you. All right. So what's the theme of this program? It's called Restoring America, airing the day before the election. Eric, as you've laid out so eloquently on your show, we are in big trouble, obviously, in the United States. The country is completely divided on so many levels. The radical left is on the march. We have weakness in Washington, D.C. We're at a tipping point, I believe, in this nation, not even a turning away from God in many cases. So what can we do to turn this thing around, restoring America, as the title suggests? And one of the things I did, Eric, in researching this program, was to look at where it's working. Where are things working in the United States right now,

especially after the chaos of the past two and a half years? Florida and Texas are two major success stories where, hey, they're using common sense policies, Eric, in a time when common sense is not so common, whether it's economically. There's a reason people are flocking to Florida and Texas. They're leaving blue states and they're kind of relocating to red states. And a reason for that, I think, number one, obviously economic benefits, but personal freedom. The kind of freedom this nation was founded on, personal freedom in a place like Florida in Texas. They rejected the governors of those two states, mask mandates, vaccine mandates. They kept the schools open whenever they could. So I was able to grab Ron DeSantis, the Florida governor and Greg Abbott, the Texas governor for this special.

You got two governors in one program. Two governors, one program. That's a pretty big deal. Seriously, that's pretty terrific. But it's funny, Eric, to me, I always have to, you know, comment on the hilarity of it. That in Texas, and he's, even more so in Florida, you have two leaders who have really done nothing extraordinary. They have gone with almost any idiot in America, anyone with common sense in America. You're raising your kids. You're living your life. You're just, you know, a normal person like you, like me. You see what makes sense and you do it. So here you have two governors who've basically done the basics, but we're living in a time of such lunacy

that the basics looks radical to the rest of the country. So it's almost like we have an experiment. Like in these two states, we're going to do what pretty much anybody would do. Every non-expert who just knows enough to know the basics, this is pretty much what they would do. But at this point, in the lunacy in which we live, it takes real leadership to do the basics. And that's what we've had in Greg Abbott and especially in, in Governor Ron DeSantis. And the results, again, it's like a laboratory.

The results have been amazing. As you just said, people are flocking to these two states, which makes all the sense in the world. But I just, I kind of find it funny that, like, most Americans know what would work, what's basic, what's crazy, but we've only had two governors really with the leadership skills to pull this off. And now the dividends have been extraordinary. Yeah.

And Eric, they stood against this. this whole woke virus from the very beginning, especially during COVID, they said from the beginning, look, we're not going to do lockdowns. We're not going to do the mask mandates, vaccine. We're not going to mandate it in our states. And they did that against relentless pressure from the mainstream media, from the left, from the Biden administration. But these two governors stood strong to their credit. And Eric, in the show, we talk a lot about this poisonous, woke ideology that really seeks to take the United States down, quite frankly. in every area, and DeSantis and Abbott have stood strongly and vocally against that.

It's almost like those two states, Texas and Florida, are a refuge for sanity right now. So we dug into, especially what's going on in the schools, critical race theory, the gender madness, and how Texas and Florida and these two governors are standing against that as well, and why that's so important. And on the same vein as education, as part of this program, Eric, we also interviewed Michelle Bachman, her congresswoman, a dean right now at Regent University, one of the top Christian universities in the country. She had some very strong things to say about reclaiming our school system. And again, pushing this woke madness out. Every guest we had on this program stressed the importance of that. I have to say, Michelle Bachman is one of the true heroes out there. As I've gotten to

know her over the last few years, I've just been amazed at the depth of her faith. And because, you know, know, when somebody says, oh, I'm a Christian or I'm, you know, to me, that no longer means anything. They can still be crazy and off in every way. Michelle Bachman is really, she's been a hero. As you mentioned, she's at Regent University. I wish she would run for governor or senator of something. You also on the program, so you have Governor Rhonda Santis, Governor Greg Abbott, Michelle Bachman. You also have Franklin Graham on the program.

What do you talk to him about? You know, he just completed a mini tour, Eric, called God Loves You, the God Loves You Tour. And when we talk about restoring, I caught up with him at the tour. And when we talk about restoring America, ultimately, Eric, as you know, there's not a political solution. Ultimately, this is a spiritual battle. We need revival in this nation. We need it badly. And we need it now.

And I talked to Franklin Graham about that. Look, he's at the forefront of calling for a revival for evangelism. re-evangelizing the United States. And he broke down, look, if we don't do that, we can have a Josiah rise up and we have that, say, a 10-year, 15-year window, things improve. But then if we go back to our old ways, we turn away from God. Ultimately, it's all going to collapse like a house of cards. The main thing we need to do, the main message of this program is the need for revival. And by the way, hand in hand with that, we also interviewed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for the program and a man of faith, obviously. And not only that, he stressed the need for America as part of

reviving this nation, turning back to God, reviving our standing as the leader of the free world, as a moral beacon for the world, as a city shining on a hill once again. So we also talked about America's place in the world and being a moral leader in the world, something he knows very well, having served as Secretary of State. And who is Matthew Peterson? I see him also on the guest list. Matthew Peterson, Eric, this is a guy to keep an eye on. He is very active in this push, basically, to have conservative-minded, tradition-minded Americans, Christians kind of band together. And look, big tech, obviously. The left controls, big tech, corporations, social media. Can we continue to form our own platforms, our own venues, to get the message out and where we're

not reliant on people who, quite frankly, hate us and do not share our values. So he's got a lot of interesting things say about that. He's a young guy and up-and-comer, I think, for sure. And he's got very, very strong prescriptions on how to cure this woke virus. Okay, so this is Monday night, November 7th, 8 p.m. Eastern on TBN. And how long is the show? It's a one hour program. Okay, this is a big deal. So, folks, check out TBN.

Now, look, you should be checking out TBN always, always. But Monday, November 7th, 8 p.m. Eastern. It's a really an impressive raft of guests. And I've said it many times, Eric, that, There is no doubt that God has allowed things to get this bad to wake us up. This is what he does in his mercy, to let things get so bad that people who ordinarily would sit on their hands begin to take action, really get serious about praying for the country and taking prayerful action in the country. So we're just thrilled you're doing the show.

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As you know, I wrote a book about William Wilberforce and the heroic campaign to end slavery. At the end of the 18th century, slavery was just considered a necessary evil. It's the way things are. but Wilberforce was convinced by the Bible and by his faith and the God of the Bible that he had to do what he could. And people often think of him principally or only as a political figure. But he knew he was very canny and he understood that politics is downstream of culture, that we have to use the culture, the arts, to communicate. to people who will eventually vote.

And he did it very successfully. And I think that we in the United States have not really understood this idea very effectively, but by the grace of God that's changing, and one of the principal examples, I'm very, very happy to report, is a four-minute film called The Procedure. I put it out all over my social media,

I sent out an email with it. The other day, I spoke to Kevin Sorbo, who is the voice of the narrator on this film. And we just had a few moments with the director of the film, Laura Klassen. I wanted to get some more time with her because this is an important film because I want everyone to share it. Again, it's called The Procedure. My guest now, Laura Klausen, welcome to the program. Hi, thank you so much for having to be. having me. How, Laura, how did you find yourself directing this short animated, I should say,

film? What, what, what have you been doing with your life up to this point that you found yourself, you know, directing what I see as a really vital, vital short film? Right. Well, so I'm the founder and director of an anti-abortion organization here based in Canada called Choice for Two. And half of what we do is try to change the culture through media. So that is where this video plays in to what we do. And this story is a true story. And on my social media about a year ago, I had just made a post asking,

are there any medical professionals who have witnessed or been involved with surgical abortion? would you message me? I just wanted to hear their side of things. And I got quite a few messages. And this was one of them. It's a true story from this man. And when I read it, it was just so powerful, the way that he had explained it initially.

And then I talked with him more and just came up with the idea of making a video out of this and having this story seen hopefully by millions. It's a true story. That's part of what makes it. it's so tremendously compelling. This is true. This is not made up.

This is not what an abortion looks like. This is an actual person telling you the story of precisely what he saw. It's horrifying. It's difficult. But it's my hope that people who are on the fence about this issue of abortion, just like people, let's be honest, people were on the fence about many things in the past, whether it's the issue of slavery or the slave trade. until you know the horror of it, you can just say, well, this is one of those things and who am I to say.

But when you actually see the reality of it, you're responsible for that information. And folks who watch this video, this short film called The Procedure, they're responsible for that information. Now, I want to be clear, your organization is called Choice 4-2, the numbers like 42, Choice4.com. Choice 42 obviously means when you're making that choice, you're making the choice for two people, not just for yourself as a woman, but also for the human being inside you. Choice42.com. So talk us through what actually happened.

When people watch the film, and I hope people watch it especially before they vote next Tuesday in the United States. But this person, this medical professional, who was this person that suddenly gets called in to see something he did not expect to see, to put it mildly? Right. Well, he was the hospital's lead ultrasound technician. And so, you know, he just got to work and was told that he was needed in the OR. And he had never assisted with an abortion before. I was totally unprepared for what he was about to do. and just saw it and was basically in shock there, just watching the whole thing play out.

And as you can see in the video, went and threw up afterward and quit his job. This is, of course, similar to the story of Abby Johnson, who was even less qualified to be looking at this kind of thing. So he's in this hospital. He's called in. And to what is obviously his shock and horror, he watches something. It's almost too gruesome to be described. I guess that's part of why you thought doing it as an animation. It's just the right level of reality, but it's kind of, in a sense, it's slightly impressionistic compared to if we were to see the real thing. So it's slightly less horrifying, but it's nonetheless horrifying. So he did at the time, as a professional, he went through with this.

And so for people who haven't seen this yet, and folks, you've got to see it and you've got to share it with everyone you know. It's called the procedure. But what happened to him? I mean, did he even know what it was initially when he was called in to the room? No, like he didn't even know he would be doing an ultrasound on a pregnant person, a pregnant woman. He had no idea, right? Like, ultrasound is needed quite often in. surgery. So that was his job and he was completely unprepared. And this was the second trimester

fetus in the mother's womb. Do we remember how long, do we know how long into the second trimester this was? I believe it was 25 weeks. Listen, I've met children that were born at 25 weeks. Yeah. This is real. I think what people don't realize, Laura, is, Again, people are often given this false binary choice. They act as though, well, there's a blob of cells, and then there's a baby. And they forget that in between conception and birth, this tiny thing more and more and more looks exactly like what we all ended up as at some point. And this film underscores that. That's the horror of it when you're talking about a douchequer.

doctor tearing off arms and legs with four. I mean, it's just, it's so gruesome. It's difficult to talk about. Yeah. And it's, it's hard to because this procedure happens. And here in Canada, we have no abortion law. So abortion is allowed all the way up until birth. This procedure is happening every day. And the fetus, the child is not given any pain medication. And that is because the doctors don't want to humanize the child, right? If you have to give the baby pain medication, then maybe that would make people start to question why, why does the child need pain medication for this procedure? So it's, you know, I'm quite sick and tired of all of the euphemisms surrounding abortion of a woman's choice, health care, my body, my choice. It's not, you know,

it is the brutal slaughter of babies in the womb. And it is a, about time that people who call themselves anti-abortion or pro-life, it's about time that we started making some serious noise about this. And I hope that people will after watching this. How did you get involved in this whole world? What's your story with that? Well, I come from a theater background. I was working in theater until a few years ago when I left just to solely focus on Choice for Two. But the way I got, got into the whole abortion issue was when I was very little, I think maybe around age four, I saw someone on the side of the street holding a graphic abortion image. And at that moment,

I knew it was wrong. I knew there was something terrible. And that really stuck with me. And just for all the years following, that was always something that I really wanted to do something about. And so that is where Choice 42 came from. And now here we are with the procedure. And when did you found Choice4.2.com? Seven years ago. So you've been at this for a while. Did you ever think you'd be making a film like this?

No. We started out because I mentioned the organization does two different things. So the one half of what we do is connecting one-on-one with women who have abortions scheduled or who are considering abortion, we connect with them online and basically try and convince them to have mercy on their child and to let their child live rather than murdering their child. So when the organization started, it was more to do with that, and we were more connected with pregnancy resource centers

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The time to donate is now. Thank you. And God bless you. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Laura Klassen, who is the young woman behind this important, very short film. Four minutes. The writer and the director of this film called The Procedure was released just a couple of days ago. You were just telling us what it was that you were doing with Choice 4-2.

And then I guess eventually you found your way. maybe because of your theater background into saying, well, we need to tell stories. We need to get the information out in stories. Yes, exactly. And so, yeah, we just started. Our first viral video was the magical birth canal. We have a series of satire, which did really well. And it helped the organization because to have a viral video connected with the organization,

we were then able to reach more women who were considering. abortion. So it does go hand in hand. And now this is our third animation that we've done. And it's definitely the most harsh, brutal one. Well, I keep saying on social media, everyone, if you're going to vote, you need to see this film before you vote, folks. You need to understand what evil we are countenance saying. And this is no different than William Wilberforce in the slave trade. People need to know what is legal in your country and what some of your political leaders are pushing for. When you see it and understand that you are responsible for this horror, it will give you pause, folks, because it's really extraordinary.

But you need to look. You need to see it. How has the video been doing? I know that a lot of people have watched it since it was released just a couple days ago. It's doing really well, actually. It's because we gave it to a bunch of different organizations, you guys being one of them, and thank you so much, for them to just upload to their own platforms.

So, you know, we have some larger pages like live action uploaded it, and we're at about half a million views right now. I mean, I'm sure more than that, because now that people are seeing that they can upload it, they're doing so. And so it's incredible to see it spreading. we just want people to see it. But the reaction has been, people have actually said that they've thrown up after watching it

or they couldn't make it, they couldn't watch the full thing. And now, of course, we just started getting the hate mail. I just, before coming on here, was given a nice little death threat in my inbox. Isn't that sweet? You know, yeah. That's love. That's how you know.

Right. People really care. It's amazing because what else do you need to know? I mean, if you're getting death threats, you know, you kind of feel like, well, somebody has a problem with this. And what is their problem? The idea that you're telling the truth, that they don't like the truth? I mean, people need to see what it is that they're getting behind. If you live in Canada, you live in the United States, you are one way or the other getting behind this kind of thing.

You have leaders representing you pushing for what is in the video. And so you need to be aware of what it is that you're getting behind. And I think there's some people that, look, it's obvious they just don't care. They don't want to know. And so they're going to resort to, you know, really pathetic things like making death threats. It's so vital that people understand what happens. And when you just said that, you know, people throw up or people get, that's the normal reaction to seeing something like this. I mean, at least to be inclined to be so disgusted that you have to look away or something.

And this is an animation. So, folks, you know, if, I mean, when I was watching it, I guess part of what I thought is, and again, it's only four minutes long. But when I was watching it, I thought to myself, somehow in the way that you have told this story, again, the video is called the procedure, you have made it real. And I don't know why it's more real in this video than in other things that I've seen before. And I don't mean real, meaning graphic or horrible, but you've just somehow made it clear. You've made it obvious what is happening. If somebody, you know, right now brought a puppy in here and did to the puppy what this doctor, quote unquote, does to this human child of 25 weeks, the world would be outraged if we filmed that.

The whole world would be sickened and outraged at the horror and the cruelty. So the question is, folks, are you willing to be intellectually honest and consistent, or do you just not care? It's really extraordinary. I think, tell us what happened. Now, Kevin Sorbo, of course, is the voice of the narrator and the story. and the story is the story of this technician. But this technician reached out to you because of an email that you had sent out or a social media post you sent out looking for folks who'd experienced things like this.

Yeah, exactly. A Facebook post. I just asked and got a lot of responses. And they were all very, there were a lot of similarities between them all, which I mean makes sense, people who had witnessed an ultrasound-guided abortion. Yeah, lots of people. throwing up right after. That was like a common thread throughout everyone's experience. Well, that gives me hope for humanity, to be honest, that people have this kind of reaction,

because it's the normal reaction that I think a lot of people would have. But again, folks, it's vital that you're aware of this and that you send this video to your good friends, to people that are simply ignorant. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. They have no idea what they're getting behind with whom they vote for, what they say. We need to make them aware. Like, listen, it's okay, but now you need to look at this. Now you need to understand. We'll be right back talking to Laura Klassen.

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Promocode Eric at my pillow.com. Folks, the video is called the procedure. It's four minutes long, amazingly short, but it tells the story of what is happening right now. while we're having this conversation. It's happening all across America. It's happening all around the world. It's happening in Canada. And every single one of us is whether actively or passively participating in this.

This is what is happening in our country. And we are responsible for this. And we need to get the word out by sharing the video, which I have posted all over my social media. and I will continue to do so. To anyone you know that has been misinformed or is confused about what we're talking about when people blithely say things like,

I'm all about a woman making decision between her and her doctor, and you say, great, great, what decision to have an abortion? Okay, do you know what that is? What does that mean? Can we look at it? Let's look at it. So this video is an animation of what happens

and that's happening every day. And we need to face this. If you don't face it and get other people to face it, you're being a hypocrite because you're responsible for this. Laura, I just want to ask you, this is a true story. This is the narrative of a man who was called in to help with an ultrasound. What happened to him? I mean, I was kind of amazed when I watched this short film

that he was able to be there while this was happening. I mean, it's an astonishing thing. I know. Well, he said he just froze and just even, you know, looking back, he really regrets not doing something or saying something, but he was in just so much shock. And this was his job. He was just doing his job. So, you know, he regrets that. As I said, he quit.

And he vowed that he would never again participate in an abortion. And he is now working at another hospital as an ultrasound technician. currently. Well, I mean, the idea that he quit, that tells you everything, folks. I mean, can you imagine you've got a job, you call them to do your job, and then you find out that your job has to do with standing right there while something basically unspeakable. We really hardly want to even say what it is because it's so evil, so obviously, manifestly evil and wrong, immoral. It doesn't matter where you stand. politically the idea. I don't know that there's anybody that would say, I think this is a good thing. I think it's okay. How is it a good thing? I just defy anyone. I was saying, Laura, that, you know, it's such a short film. People can share this and should share this. I said to parents, somebody else said this to me that, you know, pay your teenagers to watch this or dare them to watch it.

dare them to share it with their friends. If we don't begin telling the truth about this, folks, I mean, listen, silence in the face of evil is itself evil. We are guilty because this is happening, and to say nothing is to say something. You said that this ultrasound technician still has nightmares about what he saw, and this was during one experience. Yeah, of course, because if you witness that, how could you not? Right? And like, to your point, of us needing to share this video,

we've gotten responses of people saying, this is very powerful, you know, I thank you for making it. I can't share it because it's too much. And they're worried about offending their friends and family. And my message to all these cowards is your discomfort, the backlash that you might face and sharing it is nothing compared to what this little girl endured. So, like, have a little reality check there and realize that this is happening every day in my country and your country. And my goodness, stop being so scared and actually do something.

You know, it's about time we ended this if we think that we're civilized societies. Well, the most horrifying part of it for me is this abortionist, that there are people not just watching this, not just being ultrasound technicians, but actually being the one using your own arms and the strength that God has given you in your arms to tear the arms and legs off of tiny children in their mother's wombs. That is something that is very tough to comprehend that there are people doing this.

doctors, they are doctors. They've taken the Hippocratic oath. Surely they know what they're doing. I mean, I don't know what some of them say about this or how it's possible for them to feel because it's obviously visceral. When you're doing this, you're doing it with your own hands. You're feeling the resistance. It's too horrible to comprehend, really.

Yeah, I think they just must be like taken over. by something. Like, look at Gossnell, just what a, what an evil man he was, right, for what he was able to do. So, I mean, we're not, we're not dealing with moral people. Well, I mean, I actually, as horrible as Gosnell is, the almost unspeakable horror of snipping a child's neck, which would kill them instantly, is less horrifying. than what you depict in this video, tearing the arm off of a child. Even saying it, it's just so disturbing.

And yet people are doing this. They're obviously making pretty good money off of this because if there's another way for you to make money, trust me, folks, you'd take the other way. These folks are doing this. They're being paid for it. They say, well, it's legal. This is what the woman wants.

It's just, it's unbelievable. What is your hope for this video, Laura? My hope is that this is a moment where things shift for our culture, where people start questioning abortion and not just believing it and not just believing all the garbage they've been fed by the media and the government up until this point about it truly just being a medical procedure and a woman's right. My hope is that a change happens now. And praise God, we already have new.

of a baby boy's life being spared because of this story. So I hope that there are many more. And also we've seen people changing their mind, commenting on our video saying, I am no longer pro-choice, this changed me. So I'm optimistic that this will make a difference. Folks, you've got to share the video and share this video, this conversation I'm having now with Laura.

Share this wherever you can. We have got to get the word out. We are responsible for this. Laura Clausen, thank you so much. Thank you for having me, really. Folks, go to Choice4.2.com. That's Choice42.com and do whatever you can do. Folks, welcome back to the show about everything.

Yes. And everything includes pretty much everything. Everything. We talk about everything. We talk about some things a lot, but we eventually talk about everything. One thing that I want to talk about right now is my schedule. Yes. I am headed later today.

to Lynchburg, Virginia, or maybe by the time you hear this, I'm already in Lynchburg, Virginia at Liberty. You can find out the details of where I will be, where I'll be signing books, where I'll be speaking, whatever. I'm also going to be in Pittsburgh.

Yay. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to see Donald Trump and Doug Mostriano in La Trobe, Pennsylvania, this Saturday night. What's that tomorrow the next day? It's like any day now, I think so. We'll see what happens. Monday, folks, this is crazy.

Next Tuesday, you know, oh, there's an election. It's really important that you vote. I don't know if I've ever mentioned that, but it's extremely important that you vote. If you don't know for whom to vote, I would play it safe and just vote Republican. I don't have time to explain. The Republicans aren't perfect, but let me tell you,

boy, oh boy, if we don't retake the House and hopefully the Senate, and then hopefully in a couple of years of the White House, we're going to be in big trouble. I want to recommend on a happy note, SalemNow.com. Yes. If you are looking for something to watch and who isn't,

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