The Eric Metaxas Show - Evan Sayet

Episode Date: August 12, 2021

Comedian Evan Sayet, author of "The Woke Supremacy," explains how George Orwell's dystopian vision of society is playing out today through America's ruling party.

Texas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Hey, their sports fans. It's time for another segment. Yes. In our famous Ask Mataxis series. I'm Metaxus and you every week at this time, Thursday, we answer your questions. And we put a post on Instagram on my story every Thursday. And you get to send it any questions you want short pithy questions.

Please. Not thwart pishy. I said that last week, and I realized I was wrong. It's not thornt and it's not pishy questions I'm looking for. It's short and pithy. And I apologize for anybody that was inconvenienced by that. Okay, Alvin. Yes, sir.

I'm ready. I'm a taxis. Go ahead. Okay. Question number one. What is your place of strength? What? Yeah.

What? Say that again? What is your place of strength? What is my place? place of strength? Strength. I think really in the pectoral region, I'm really getting pumped up there. I've been doing a lot of bench presses.

So when they say place of strength, is that what they mean? Or do they mean, what is my place of strength? Like, where geographically do I feel most strong? Yeah. And I would say in Middle Western Connecticut. So let's move on. That's question number one. I've answered it to the best of my ability.

Those are my places of strength. We would have also accepted church or gym, either one. Yeah. Spiritual or. I don't know. I don't know. Here we go. That's a question that baffled me.

You baffled me. You baffled my taxes. I'm baffled. Will you be returning to day spring Christian Academy anytime soon? Day spring Christian Academy? Yes. That's where I interviewed Jonathan Kahn. Oh, yeah.

And I also did something for them a couple of years ago. But unless people invite me, and this is not like a setup to ask. you to invite me. But unless somebody invites me, I can't just, like, show up at Day Spring Christian Academy. So as far as I know, no, but I can come to Lancaster, Pennsylvania. I can come anywhere, but people have to invite me. So as far as I know, no, I'm not going to Day Spring Christian Academy. Okay, then. Question number three. That was easy. No. It was easy. No. Any plans to have Pastor David Englehart on your show? That bum? Yeah. When he pays me back my $40, I'll have money. I mean, I mean, seriously, come on.

These are friends. No, David Englehart, he's a pastor at a church that is called King's Church in New York City. I preached there, oh, I don't know, maybe three, four months ago. Actually, it was longer than that. No, there was snow on the ground. Oh, my gosh. So this must have been March. Anyway, I was so enamored of that church.

that I thought I would love to go back there just to be there, not to preach. But it's King's Church. It's sort of in Chinatown. But anybody looking for a wonderful service in New York City? I mean, there's a number of wonderful churches. But I have to say, David Englehart, he's, I mean, he has become a friend. And I actually just saw him when I was down in last week. I was in Tampa at Turning Point, the Charlie Kirk thing.

And David Englehart was there. So I guess the question is not when I'm going to his church, but will I have him on the show? The answer is yes. I will have him on this show probably soon. Thank you very much. And I hope when he gets here, he sings that big hit of his Engelheart's hit. So I'll sing you to sleep after the loving with the song that I wrote just yesterday. You know what?

You're confusing David Englehart, my pastor friend at King's Church in New York, with the singer Englehart Humperdink. Yes, so Englehart Humperdick. And by the way, Engelhart Humperdink should not be confused with the 19th century opera composer named Engelhart Humperdink. That's a fact. You didn't know that, did you? No, I didn't know that?

I think, you know the Hansland Gretel opera that kids go to? Oh, yeah. That was written by Engelhart Humperdink, not to be confused with the Engelhardt, Humperdink, who sings the song that you know. you just saying, not to be confused with David Englehart, who's the pastor of the King's Church in New York City. Okay.

And before we get another, we're really clearing up some problems. This is Ask Mataxus. I'm a Taxus. And Mr. Engelbert, Humperdink, we're sorry. And now, question number four, now that COVID is over, in quotes, we can start having S-I, we can start having Socrates and the city events again, right? Eric, Socrates- That sounds like a leading question.

It does. It sounds like somebody- From the record. Now that COVID is over, are we going to have more Socrates and city events? The short answer to that is, yes. We're actually planning that right now. And I don't know if I can say this on the air or if I'll get arrested, but we need funding for Socrates in the city. So this is not a setup.

I didn't ask Albin to ask me that question. I don't know what he's asking me. But if somebody wants to fund a Socrates and city event, and they're not cheap because we film them, film them. We do them as beautiful clubs, or if you have a speaker in mind. But the short answer is absolutely we are planning on it probably to be kicked off in January. We might do one this fall. We don't know yet. But we are absolutely planning to do like a full season of Socrates and City events.

I'm very excited. By the way, if you don't know what that is, go to Socratesin the city.com. A lot of people listening to this program are not aware of my Socrates in the city career. Socrates in the city.com. Now, this is a very serious and important question. do you think will have a revival of Christian faith? Nah. Come on.

Come on. Let's be serious. Actually, I do, and I think that apart from that, there's no hope for freedom. I think that people don't know this. If you read my book, if you can keep it, you will get an idea that it was revival, Christian revival in America and the 13 colonies that led to the possibility of American-style self-cold. government. I mean, there were other things, but that was, I would say, the main thing. I think where we are in the country right now, I do think we will have revival. I think through, for many reasons, I see it beginning. But I think that without it, we're dead. But you know what?

Without God, we're all dead generally. Jesus was dead. But the resurrection power of God, you know, kind of trumps death and defeats death. And I kind of feel spiritually, in the natural America and freedom is dead. So I do believe we're going to have Christian revival. I think it's the only hope for us to, well, to do what we're supposed to do as a country. So that'll be a yes. Okay, big yes. Okay, which book did you enjoy writing the most?

This is a good one. It's like asking a parent. What's your favorite child? Who is that? I'd have to go with Moby Dick. I would say that. Brilliant job, by the way. Or Huckleberry Finn.

I'm always, actually now you're saying which book did I write? I think it's the one. I thought it was reading. Because those two are just like the greatest books ever. I like less miserables. Yeah, yeah. And the French version is Les Miserables. But who can read French?

Come on. So what book did I enjoy writing the most? I would say, now this is very different from which book do you like the most or which book do you. But the only book that I seem to enjoy writing, because writing is really hard. It's like it's work, folks. It's not like, you know, you go to a cabin and thoughts come to you. And it's really hard work. But I would say that my Luther book, I was able to have fun writing it for, I don't know why.

but there was something about the character of Luther, and there's a lot of funny stuff in the story. It's a serious story, but a lot of it is really funny. And so if you're looking for a book of mine to read where there's just some fun stuff in it, for some reason that I enjoyed it, I didn't expect to enjoy it. I thought somebody said to me, prophetically,

this is going to be the hardest book you ever wrote. Guess what? That prophet was wrong because it was the most fun book I ever wrote. I'm not even joking. That's true what I just said. So next question. Yeah, I know. And you're going to like this.

How can I pre-order your is atheism dead book? That's what's called a softball. Yeah. I need people to pre-order it because it's very important to the success of the book. It is pure apologetics. It's an evangelistic tool. I am thrilled. I wrote the book.

And I would say the easiest way to pre-order it is go to my website, ericmataxis.com. Did I pronounce that correctly? I think so. Ericmettaxas.com. Very good. Where it says books, you'll see is atheism dead. I do need people to pre-order it.

And if you think you're going to get it, and I think you will, please pre-order it. That helps us a lot. We're probably out of time. Yeah, we're probably out of time. This Thursday. We'll see you next week. Same time. Same Bat Channel.

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The Woke Supremacy and kind of where we are in the culture. But you come to this originally as a comedian. You see through the culture, you crack jokes about the culture. You were on Letterman. I mean, you've done all those shows. How is it possible that you come out of all that thinking more as a conservative than as a liberal? Or do you not define yourself that way? Oh, no, I absolutely define myself that way.

Look, whether you're a comedian or whatever your business is, hopefully as you mature, hopefully as you experience the world more, you begin to think about the things that you believe. You know, the world of a comedian is so easy in general. I mean, you're not plowing the fields. You're not carrying, you're not building things, you're not mending things, you're not sewing things. In fact, you're not even making your own bed. You know, you're on the road, you're in a motel. Somebody else makes your bed.

You're not even washing your own dishes. The person that Denny's does that. And so you go through life, and especially if you hit a certain degree of success, where you never have to really think about the most basic of things. You know, and you say you don't put yourself in the mindset of the opposite. others, but hopefully at a certain point, you mature enough that you begin to. So you wrote a book called The Woke Supremacy. We've talked about it on this program before. Why is it a supremacy? Like, talk about that idea. Sure. I mean, let's define what a

supremacist movement is and what it isn't. I mean, a supremacist movement is not one in which somebody has misgendered a plastic toy potato. That's just not a supremacist movement. A supremacist movement is not one in which they found a drawing in a 70-year-old children's book of a hardworking Asian man that happened to have been drawn somewhat cartoonishly. Eric, do you know why I was drawn cartoonishly? Why? Why? Hey, you know, I got to tell you, this is how fast culture moves.

The last time you were on, we were talking about this stuff, and it's already like late years in the past, Dr. Seuss was singled out. Now, Dr. Seuss was a leftist, basically, but he was singled out as the cannibal, as the woke culture, cancel culture eats its own for a couple of cartoons. In 1930, he drew a Chinese man who, by the way, if you were in Chinatown, because the book's about Mulberry Street, in 1930, the Chinese man would have actually looked like that. So it wasn't like he was making fun and projecting. He was drawing the way they are. But that's how fast culture moves. that that happened, that gets canceled, we move on,

and the next thing, next thing, and then suddenly here we are. It's insane, though, the speed. It is indeed, but that's the way it is in a totalitarian, authoritarian, i.e. supremacist movement. So what is the definition of a supremacist movement? It is this. It is one in which the members of that movement seek to create a society, and then a world, but first a society in which all the rights, privileges, protections, and opportunities of that society belong,

only to those who possess a certain trait. All others, and Eric, I spell that with a capital all. All others are not only to be denied these things, but it is a moral imperative to the supremacist that that society's resources be used to fully disempower, forever silence, and to permanently erase the memory of the existence of all the others. So do the woke believe that all rights, like right to freedom of speech, should belong only to those who possess the Supreme Trade of Whopeness? We know this. Do they believe all protections of society

like due process should belong only to those who possess the Supreme Trade of Wholeness? We know this. Do they believe all opportunities, like the opportunity to run your own business or to have a job should belong only to those who are woke? Eric, not only do you need to be woke, but like every other supremacist movement,

there's a purity test. You need to be 100% woke. So in the previous Democratic Party supremacist incarnation, the Old South, it was one drop of black blood, and you were the other. No matter how good a good old boy you were, in Nazi Germany, no matter how good a Nazi you were, if you had one grandparent who was Jewish, you were the other. In another supremacist movement, the Islamist supremacist movement, just one blasphemy is enough to take the most pious Islamist and turn him into the other. and let me tell you a story. I think we even discussed this a little bit last time. I think you brought it up, Alexei McCamond.

And Alexei McCamond was such a good, articulate, pure, wonderful spokesperson for the woke supremacist movement that at the age of 27, they made her the editor-in-chief of one of their most important propaganda outlets, teen vogue. Why is teen vogue so important? The same reason that Hitler had Hitler youth, the same reason that Lenin had the young pioneers, The same reason the Islamists have those madrasas is because they always go after the children first who are incapable of defending themselves intellectually. So they make her editor-in-chief of Team Vogue, and between the time they make the announcement

and on her first day on the job, they force her to resign because they discovered that 10 years earlier, Eric, in her childhood, she had tweeted some unwoke things. And so they quite literally silenced her voice. They quite literally disempowered her. They quite literally erased her memory from the masthead. And what's important to recognize here is it wasn't the right wing that shut her up. It was the left wing. It was their co-workers at Teen Vogue who didn't think she passed the purity test.

It's a good moment just to say, Teen Vogue is one of the most foul magazine. imaginable. This is this is aimed at kids and it has stuff in their sexual stuff that would make anybody blush. It is horrifying stuff. And as you say, it is it is woke. It is leftist to to the endth degree. But they decided, yes, that this woman was perfect in every way except for that. Boom, she's gone. Correct. As I say, they all have purity tests. And the reason it's a moral imperative is because every supremacist movement has yet another thing in common, and that's that they're all utopian. They all are absolutely convinced that every ill and evil the world has ever known

has been caused by the other. And once the other has been permanently silenced, permanently vanquished, permanently erased from memory, then all that will be left are those who possess the Supreme Trade. And so in the Marxist supremacist movement, where the Supreme Trade is proletarianism, All the ills and evils of the world were caused by the bourgeoisie. Once the bourgeoisie were put into gulags or permanently confined to mental institutions,

they promised a workers paradise. Okay, that's the promise. Hold on. I just want to say there's a great irony here is that during the Trump years, the Trump supporters were all demonized as being guilty of what you're describing. And others, the irony is that the very, people who are guilty of this today were the ones who created this narrative that Trump supporters are white supremacists. Trump supporters hate brown and black people. That's why we don't want

people coming over our borders illegally. They built up this narrative and they talked about it as a kind of an unbridled ideological hatred of the other. But what you're telling us, of course, is that precisely the opposite is true. It is the woke culture that is demonizing the other and we are part of that other. Indeed, we are the other. Anybody who engages in discriminating thought, and I'll get to that in a moment. But look, it's not unusual. In fact, it's a well-known tactic. I believe it was Garibald's, you know, who said, accuse the other of that which you yourself are guilty of. So it's really not surprising that they would accuse us of this. And, of course, the Islamists accuse the Israelis of terrorism and so on and so forth across the board.

It's just a tactic that is employed by supremacist movements. But it's particularly wicked. Let's be honest. It's a wicked, wicked thing to so cynically twist the truth in that kind of a way. Indeed. And one thing that I've found quite telling, quite interesting, is supremacist movements are basically three act plays. Act one, they portray the situation as it is as God-awful oppressive. You're being oppressed by the bourgeois.

You're being oppressed by white people in America. You're being oppressed. Act three is the perfect world they promise. But Act two is always exactly the opposite of the utopia that they promised to bring. So the promise that what was going to make it a workers' paradise, Marxism, a workers' paradise, was that there'd be no government and there would be total autonomy for every single worker. Every single worker would be autonomous. But in order to get to that, they first have to have a dictatorship of the proletariat.

The Islamists promise that the world will be peaceful. But in order to get to that, Act 2 sees them the most violent of all peoples on the planet. Well, Act 3, according to the woke, is a world of utter tolerance. But before they can get there, they have to be utterly intolerant, even to those who have one drop of unwholkism. It's unbelievable. We're going to go to a break. Folks, I'm talking to Evan Say It, S-A-Y-E-T. The book is the woke supremacy. Folks, don't forget, please sign up for a newsletter. We need you to do that. There's no other way to reach you. We've been canceled on YouTube. Please go to my website, Eric Mataxis.com. Sign up for the newsletter. We'll send you these videos. We'll be right back with Evan Say-Sahe.

Folks, I'm talking to Evan Say-It. Comedyian. Thinker. Thinker. comedian, which is it? The book is the woke supremacy. So, Evan, you're talking about what makes it a supremacy. So then the question is, how many people buy into this in a society? Because right now it seems like the people on the woke side, they've had the upper hand in the culture, but there aren't that many people I don't think who really think this way. Somehow, though, they're able to manipulate things so that they seem like they're in the majority. Indeed, look, in every supremacist movement, let's go across the board from Nazism, Marxism, Islamicism, Whalcism, in every supremacist movement, only about five to 10% of the population are actual, active, activist members of any of these movements, right? In 1944, in Germany, only about 10% of the German people were actual active, activist members of the Nazi party.

in the previous Democratic Party supremacist movement, the old South, only about five to 10 percent of the Democrats were actual active activist members of the Ku Klux Klan. It's estimated that around the globe today, only about five, maybe 10 percent of the Muslims around the globe are active and activists jihadis, members of the jihadi movement. The problem is not the five or the 10 percent. It's the other 95 or 90 percent who have been so fully steeped. in, so wholly surrounded by, and so totally denied the opportunity to even hear another point of view that the ludicrous, the ludicrous narratives become nothing other than the givens. And this is something that George Orwell hinted at in 1984 when he had these self-negating, obviously absurd slogans as big brother's slogans, war is peace. So it's not the opposite of

ignorance is strength. No, it's not. It's the opposite of strength. Freedom is slavery. No, it's not. But when you've been so fully surrounded by, you will believe the opposite of the truth. For example, silence is violence. No, silence isn't violence. It's the opposite of violence. You cannot get less violent than being silent. But when you've been so fully steeped and so wholly surrounded by, and so totally denied even the opportunity to entertain any of the point of view, the narrative of the supremacy becomes just the given. Can I give you an example? Yeah. I am a big fan of Bruce Springste. I think he's a good man, a decent guy, loves his family. He's even a somewhat practicing Catholic. He's good people who

work with him, want to work with him for the next 50 years. You know, so he's not a monster. He's not Adolf Hitler. He's not Stalin. He's not Lenin. He's not now. So he decides he's going to write a song to tell the world what it's like to be born in the USA. And one, every single line of the song is diametrically opposed to his own personal experience. But he's not writing about himself. He's writing about this narrative that he's been steeped in. And so he gets a line about the Vietnam War. And he says, got in the little hometown jam. So they stuck a rifle in my hand. They sent me off to a foreign land to go and kill the yellow man. So in other words, his explanation for the Vietnam War is the narrative of the supremacy

that America's this evil, horrible, racist place so vile, so racist that we would even send our sons and daughters halfway across the globe to that God-forsaken jungle in Southeast Asia just to kill people with different color skin. And you know what, Eric, if that were true, America would be a horrible place. But not only is it not true, it's the opposite of the truth, and I'll prove that in a moment.

But even more disconcerting is that before he spewed this hateful narrative about his fellow Americans, Springsteen didn't feel the need to spend even a moment questioning it. How do I know? Because as ignorant of history as Springsteen there may not have been,

he certainly at least had to have known this. Well, it's absolutely true. The people of North Vietnam had yellow skin. So too did the people of South Vietnam with whom we were fighting and for whom we were dying for. So clearly, with even a moment's thought, he could have made the mental leap to the fact that if both sides had yellow skin, it could not have been a racial issue. I've never been a big Springsteen fan. And now that I hear... I'll cure you.

I'll cure you. I mean, but I mean, the idea that, that, that, that, that, line is in there. That's pretty despicable, really. And it's the kind of thing you say to gin up the crowd. Like people are going to, it sounds good. But it's really a terrible lie. It's a god. It's a god, it's a god awful lie, except that he doesn't think he's lying. He believes because that's the narrative that he's been steeped in. And he simply never questioned it. And that happens with the 90 and 95% of the people. You know, most people simply do not question. did not in the South question the narrative that the Democrats told them that blacks are inferior.

You know, how many Muslims in the world question the narrative that Jews are the offspring of pigs and monkeys? How many people in Oceania questioned Big Brother? It's just when you're steeped in it, the monsters are only the handful and they're easy to deal with. It's once they've gotten enough control, once they've passed the, the, the, the, the tip point where they control the schools and universities and turn them into their ministries of indoctrination, where they control entertainment and news and turn them into their ministries of propaganda, when they control communications and turn them into their ministries of truth. You know, Eric, one reason that it's so hard for us to get and compare the Democrats of today to the Nazi party is because obviously the techniques employed by the Nazis, the method

employed by the Nazis were infinitely more and more despicable, more heinous. I'm going to, before you, I'm going to let you finish that thought on the other side of the break. Folks, I'm talking to Evan Say It. The book is the woke supremacy. Folks, I'm talking to Evan Say it, S-A-Y-E-T. It's easy to say. Say it. Okay, Evan, so you were making a point about the Democratic Party and the Nazis. And it's just hard for me to believe that this is happening in America. It's not. disturbing. But finish your point. You're making important things. It is. It is beyond disturbing. And it actually, let me take it back just a half step and say this is something else that that George Orwell

recognized is that, look, all of these cultures, all of these supremacist movements are canceled cultures. Nazism was a cancel culture. Stalinism was a cancel culture. Maoism was a cancel culture. The only difference is that the technologies available to the Nazis, to the Lenists, to the Stalin's, to the Maoists, were primitive. They didn't have the technology that we have today, which is exactly what Orwell was warning about. So they can accomplish the same ends using far less bloody and far less obvious means. So, for example, you know why Hitler put the Jews into ghettos? it was to remove their voice from the community so that they could not counter the lies of the narrative,

of the narrative of the supremacists with their humanity. Well, that's, I am now right now, as we speak in a ghetto. My voice has been removed from Twitter permanently. I cannot counter the lies that are on Twitter with my humanity. I am sitting right now in Zuckerberg's gulag, serving the same purpose as the gulag, to remove my voice from the community. So the fact that they don't have to build guard towers,

they don't have to build railroad tracks, they don't have to build gulags, they don't have to demand mental institutions. Those are just the primitive technologies that were available to those earlier canceled cultures. Zuckerberg, of course, is Jewish. You, Evan Say it, are Jewish. It's tremendously ironic, isn't it,

that we have people unaware of what they're doing. I mean, the idea that your fellow Jew is employing the same tactics that the national socialist did, except more effectively, it's a horrifying thing to think about. Indeed. And look, if there's one question that I get asked more than any other,

no matter what topic I'm speaking on, once people know that I'm a conservative and that I'm a Jew, it doesn't matter what I'm talking about. They will ask me, why do Jews vote Democrat? And it's a simple answer, but it's not a quick one,

but I know we don't have a lot of times I'm going to go as quickly as I can. Just nod your head every once in a while. Let me know that I'm filling in the blank. To be called a Jew, to be identified as Jew, when you say Jews do this, is different than any other religion that's out there. To be called a Christian,

it's easy to identify a Christian. He's somebody who believes that Jesus Christ is his Lord and Savior. If he believes that, he's a Christian. If he doesn't believe that he's not a Christian. He does believe that there's tend to be certain rights and rituals, and literature and ways of culturally thinking that you can follow. It's easy to identify a Muslim. A Muslim is somebody who believes that the Quran is the final testament of God,

and Muhammad, it's perfect messenger. If you believe that, you're a Muslim. If you don't believe that, you're not a Muslim. But to be called a Jew, even to call yourself a Jew, you don't have to believe anything. All you have to do is have fallen out of a Jewish woman's womb. Period. So there's no reason to believe that something that happened through no choice of your own

is going to be any part of your thinking in the future. And the reality is the overwhelming majority of Jews who vote Democrat are secular Jews, or as Dennis Prager would call them, non-Jewish Jews. And there's actually almost a perfect diagonal line from the four sects of Judaism. The non-Jewish Jew, the reformed Jew, who, instead of, of reforming his beliefs to comport with his scripture, reforms his scripture to conform to his beliefs. They tend to vote Democrat. But once you get to the Jews who are Jewish by practice, by faith, the conservative Jews who seek to learn and practice Judaism, but do so recognizing they

live in a secular world, and the Orthodox Jews who seek to conserve and better practice Judaism, but seek to do so in a world of their own. Once you get there, it's almost all of them vote Republican. Because leftism is antithetical to Judaism. Look at the Ten Commandments, especially the five that have to do with how man treats man, not man's responsibility to God. Thou shall not commit murder? They're calling for the murder of cops.

Thou shall not steal. That's the basis of Marxism. thou shall not covet their entire ideology is based on covetous. So the more religious you are by faith and practice, the more untenable it becomes to vote Democrat. Well, I mean, you put it well. Thank you. It strikes me that being an American and loving American style, self-government and freedom and liberty is fundamentally a biblical idea. There's just no question about that. So Marxism, cancel culture.

These things are fundamentally atheistic. Marxist cultures around the world tend to enforce atheism. When God comes into the picture, it dignifies men and women. We're made in God's image. But if you don't have God in the picture, of course, you can treat men and women like animals, like dogs, like nothing. But the other thing, it's central to the larger issue, the whether God is in the picture. You're exactly right. add to that one more layer, which is if you don't have God in your life, you're going to search

for something else to give you meaning, which is why you saw right at the start of the woke supremacist movement in the 60s and 70s, cultism became so big because people were looking for something, but it couldn't be God. And it's why you now see the woke supremacist movement. It's because if you don't believe in God, you're going to go and find some other cause. Well, it's amazing. Recently, Antifa folks have been attacking Christians. My friend Sean Foyt holding an outdoor service in Portland, Oregon, Antifa were attacking it, trying to shut it down. And you think, why would they do that?

They claim to be anti-fascist. Of course, they are fascists. But it's just interesting to me that ultimately this is a war on God. these people have bought into something, whether wittingly or unwittingly, and as you've just laid out, they're at war with God, but they don't often put it that way. But sometimes it comes out. Well, my entire thesis throughout, from the time I became a conservative and then got famous, giving my famous lecture to the Heritage Foundation, 2007, the left is trying to get rid of discrimination. All right. Now, discrimination is an odd word because I do believe it's the only word in the English language whose first two definitions are diametrically opposed. Okay, hold on. This is another cliffhanger. Folks are going to be right back short segment with Evan Sayet. The book is the woke supremacy. Folks, the author of the woke supremacy is Evan Say it. My guest, you were just saying, Evan, that liberals try to eliminate quote unquote discrimination. And you said that that word, tell us.

about the word. Yeah, it's an odd word. I do believe it may be the only word in the English language where the first two definitions in the dictionary are diametrically opposed. One, discrimination means to give a lot of thought to, to be discerting, as in she's a discriminating shopper. The other one is to give no thought to not be discerting, to not be able to tell the difference between different things within a large group. And so in order to a lot of eliminate the evils of discrimination, the woke have chosen to become utterly indiscriminate. There is no difference between a man and a woman. There is no difference between fat and skinny. There is no different between the Jews and the Muslims. There is no difference.

The problem with this is that indiscriminates of thought does not lead to indiscriminates of beliefs. It leads to siding only and always with evil failure and wrong. Why? Because of nothing, no person, no culture, no religion, no form of governance, no familial construct, no body shape, no body size. If nothing is better than anything else, then success is unjust. Why should a person, a nation, a culture, religion succeed if it's not better than anything else? The flip side is failure, as proved by nothing other than the fact that it has failed, serves as proof positive. The failure has been victimized. There's just one more point.

By extension, if success and failure is proof positive of injustice, great success and great failure is proof positive of great injustice, and the most exceptional success and the most exceptional failure is the most exceptional injustice of all, which is why the two nations they hate the most are not the worst nations on the planet. There's no moral, intellectual, legal, or any other argument to be made that America and Israel are the two worst nations on the planet. The problem is they're the two most successful nations on the life.

That's exactly right. So it's easy to hate them. I want to ask you, you mentioned the speech you gave a few years ago. Where can people find that? Well, you can find everything Evan Sayet, Evan Sayet, E-V-A-N-S-S-N-S-N-S-A-Y-T dot com. And, of course, my book is available there, the woke supremacy. It's getting raves, Eric. Well, listen, listening to you, I'm not surprised it's getting raves

because you've got this stuff figured out and you can articulate it. I've got to figure it out, but I can't articulate it as well as you do. It's just wonderful to listen to you. Evan say it.com, E-V-A-N-S-A-Y-E-T-E-E-N-S-A-E-E-N-Say-It.com. And so tell us about the speech you said you gave it, what, 12 years ago? Yeah, I walked into the Heritage Foundation's the first time I had given any talk of a serious nature in such a serious environment. And by the time I walked out this video where I explained how the modern liberal things, where I laid out basically four laws and three corollaries that explain,

everything about why such good, smart, decent, loving, caring, generous people like our Democratic Party friends and colleagues, neighbors, and even family members, why it is they reject fact and reason and side only and always with that which is ugly, that which is profane, profane over profound, evil over good, no matter where it is. If you look in Ferguson, Missouri, they'll side with Michael Brown and against the cop. You know, you look in the middle. police, they'll side with the homophobic, xenophobic, misogynistic, and I do believe a little bit anti-Semitic Islamists and single out of Jews to be strangled to death economically through boycott sanctions and divestment. How do good, smart, decent people get so wrong? And I answered that

in a 47-minute speech that just rocked the conservative world. Praise God. It's just wonderful to know you're out there, Evans Say It. Thank you. Folks, go to Evan Say It. The book is the woke supremacy. Evan, God bless you and thank you so much. Eric, God bless you and thank you so much.