The Eric Metaxas Show - Frank Gaffney

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

Frank Gaffney does a deeper dive into the troubles facing America and the world with his book, "The Indictment: Prosecuting the Chinese Communist Party & Friends for Crimes against America, China, and the World."

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Okay, so Alvin, before we lose the audience, let me tell them who's coming up. Oh, yeah. Seriously, you were here. We recorded him yesterday. Ladies and gentlemen, I cannot underscore, I cannot possibly underscore the importance of my conversation with Frank Gaffney. He is coming up in both hours today. His book, which is called The Indictment, yeah. Which is called The Indictment.

It is absolutely as chilling as it gets. The only thing that would make it more chilling is if we do nothing. But he will talk, I mean, he brings tremendous decades and decades of experience working at the Pentagon under Reagan and on and on and on. This book outlines this just impossible to exaggerate threat of China. What makes it so shocking and chilling is, we've faced these things before as a people, but we've never been so ill-prepared.

We've never been so fat, lazy, complacent that we just don't want to believe it's true. We go on with our lives unless we wake up to the threat of China. And what he says, I mean, again, this is like, you know, it's part of the larger globalist takeover, but China is happy to work with whoever, as long as their aims are helped along. But Frank gives us chapter and verse.

The book is the indictment. And this is another reason. I was on Charlie Kirk's show just the other day for the full hour. And at some point he asked me, so what do you think is going on in the election in 2024? And I said, listen, point blank, Trump. It's going to be Trump. It ought to be Trump, not because there aren't some other wonderful people,

but to unless you have someone who is utterly aware of the evil threat and who has been himself attacked by a lot of these establishment, deep state, globalist forces in the way that Trump has been attacked, you're never going to be able to summon the will in the American people to fight against it. And so I say, we need a wartime consigliary. Yeah. So, Ron, DeSantis, great guy. But I want to say, Ron, we need a wartime consigliary. I'm sorry, Ron, you're out. But Michael, I, you're out, you're out, Ron. Listen, I'm just saying it's like we need a wartime.

When you're dealing with this level of threat, and again, you have to appreciate the threat. You have to be able to summon what is necessary to lead people in fighting the threat. So in the next two hours, you're going to hear from Frank Gaffney. And I hope that you will – people always say, what can I do? Well, I'll tell you what you can do. Very few people actually do it, but some of you will do it. I ask you to share the interview when we post the interview with Frank Gaffney on our social media,

I ask you to share it. I ask you to push it. I ask you to buy a copy of his book, The Indictment. And, you know, if you feel like it, you should send a copy to your congressman with a note.

If people did that, it would change things in America. If your congressman is a rhino bum like Senator Mitch McConnell, well, then maybe you could skip it. But just sent him a package of Turtle Chow to get him through the weekend. But I have to tell you, we're dealing with madness. And when you talk to somebody like Frank Gaffney, I've known Frank for years, it is chilling, but it's, it only

is really chilling if we do nothing. So I want to say when I interview somebody like Frank, the only reason I do it, you know, we're not doing this show for the money folks in case you're wondering, we're doing this because we believe in communicating what we can while we can. And they have a good spread of food in the green room. And because there's great food in the other room. That's why we show up here. So basically, we're going to be talking to Frank Gaffney for both hours today, and I want to ask you to take what he says seriously. And again, people always say, what can I do? So I always say, in the case of Frank Gaffney in particular, share the interview, share it on social media.

We put the video out there. Some of you listen on podcasts, you want to share it that way, however you want to do it. But the point is that sharing that interview with as many people as you can, buying his book, the indictment, okay? I'm not getting money when he sells a book, but I'm telling you, if we don't get this message out, Well, you'll see. You'll listen to the conversation. People also say, when people say what I can do, what can I do? Another thing you can do is buy my books. You can support our sponsors on this program. I promise you that we're doing everything we can with every dollar we can to pay our staff to get the job done, to get the show done. There's a lot involved. please go to my store.com and support Mike Lindell and support this program by using the code Eric. Go to Mypillow.com. Get MyPillow 2.0. Yeah.

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You were currently the founder and executive chairman of the Center for Security Policy. You're very well known in certain circles. any books. You were with the Reagan administration. You've been doing this a long time, and you've been a brave, heroic voice for a long, long time. So I just feel honored that you're here. And I'm particularly thrilled about your book. This is called The Indictment, Prosecuting the Chinese Communist Party and Friends. Notice I didn't mention Google or Biden. It just says Friends. prosecuting the Chinese Communist Party in friends for crimes against America, China, and the world, the indictment.

So talk to us about what is happening. I mean, I talk about this a lot. It is nothing less than evil. The Chinese Communist Party, they are as evil as Adolf Hitler with way better technology. Hard to process, because people kind of think like, oh, Hitler was really bad. Well, he didn't have the technology to do more than he did.

He did what he could with what he had. But the Chinese are ideologically exactly the same. They do not believe in good or evil. They believe in power. So how did you come to write this book? What are the basics? The provenance of the book is that, I was imprinted as a very young man by Ronald Reagan's efforts to deal with what he called his times

existential threat to freedom, which of course was the Soviet Union. And he became a member of and then sought advice and help from a group called the Committee on the Present Danger. and that committee was made up of distinguished national security professionals, business leaders, subject matter experts, academics, and others. And they came up with a strategy to help Reagan deal with that threat from the USSR that wasn't more of the same, what Jimmy Carter was offering, for example, detente is what they called it. They're a fancy French name for engagement or appeasement, really. It wasn't even containment. The idea was rolling back what Reagan came to call the evil empire, placing it, as he colorfully put it, on the ash heap of history. And then he took that strategy that the committee on the present danger helped him conjure up to the American people. And he sought a mandate from them to affect the kind of course correction that he thought was needed, namely rolling back.

his evil empire. Okay, now the problem, of course, is at the time, and I write about this in the last chapter of my book, Letter to the American Church, the Deep State or the moderates or the rhinos, or the, let's say, the establishment, they were against this. Reagan is a firebrand. He wants to go to war with evil because he believes that's what good people do. They go to war with evil. They try to win. And you have all the people, whether it's Howard Baker or Colin Powell or all these people around him saying, well, Mr. President, you know, we don't want, we don't want any trouble. Let's just appease. So we call it detente. We call it letting the Soviets get away with literal murder. But we're fine with that. We're making a nice living. We don't want any

trouble. And he says, no, I want to do this. So when he gives his famous speech and says, Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall, they all told him you can't say that. You mustn't say that. Literally. Yes. Over and over and over again, they said it. And for me, it's fascinating because because of his saying that, that's a big part of exposing the evil and in a sense threatening these evil forces. Yeah.

And that's the purpose of the indictment, is to do. do exactly that in our time. With China. In the absence of a Reagan. Yeah. But we created a committee on the present danger, China, to advance a strategy for disengaging from and taking down in our time an existential threat to freedom that, frankly, Eric, makes the Soviets in their heyday when I was in the Pentagon contending with their nuclear threats to us and so on,

pale by comparison. So this was the genesis of the book because we put together under the banner of the committee on the present danger of China some 70 webinars to examine what that threat actually is from China and why it has been doing such harm to us and why they've gotten away with so much of it

and what the implications are if we allow them to continue to do so. Out of the webinars came two main points. One, the Chinese have for decades been conducting what they call. This is their term. Unrestricted warfare against us. And they've been doing it decisively, in many cases, with the help of Americans they

call elite captured. This is the heart of the whole evil that is in our time, trying to take down our country, and it must be recognized as such. And in addition to nine different charges that we bring against them, starting with their crimes against humanity, and you're absolutely right, it's not just the technology. It's the relentlessness. A hundred million Chinese and enslaved people, they call Chinese, Tibetans, Southern Mongolians,

Uighurs, Hong Kongers, have died at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party. And that doesn't count, Eric. 400 million that they boast about, and it's maybe up to 500 million that they've killed in the womb. There's never been anything in the history of the world remotely like this evil. That's, okay, we need to say that again because a lot of people are, they're not up to speed on this, which is why I'm glad you wrote the book, folks. It's called The Indictment by Frank Gaffney, forward by Steve Bannon. And we're dealing with something, and this goes across the board with where we are in America right now,

we're dealing with many things that are unprecedented. And because they're unprecedented, it's very hard for us to process it, to swallow it. Well, maybe he's exaggerating. It can't be that bad. It is that bad. And we need to wake up and we need to fight. But you know why? The reason we need to do that is not just out of some humanitarian impulse, which has not been attended to for too long.

It's about the fact that the people who have treated their own folks this badly will not treat us better if they get their hands on us. And that is exactly what they intend to do. So this is the first charge because they're coming for us in a way that may, in fact, make what they've done to their own people pale and insignificant. In fact, we've got a quote from the then defense minister of China about 20 years ago saying that the fellow who, brought us Tiananmen Square, the general secretary of the Chinese Communist Party at the time by the name of Deng Xiaoping, commissioned the illegal biological warfare program of China with the mission of depopulating the United States so that it could be colonized by China. Okay, depopulating the United States. Now Naomi Wolf has been on this program. Are you, you're familiar with the work that she's done? Very much so. Okay, so we're saying some shocking stuff, folks. And I just want to be clear that if it weren't true, it would be too horrible to believe.

But the bad news is it's true. But it also makes logical sense. This is where I keep coming back to this idea of evil. We kind of act like, well, we don't have evil in the world, and everybody's pretty much a nice guy, and we can deal with China, and we can make a lot of money dealing with China. And if we help them with the free market, you know, before you know it, peace will be breaking out over there. stuff, and this is all naivete and greed mixed together. And so we have allowed them to become powerful, and we have forgotten that if you are an atheist who does not believe in good or

evil, if you are Chinese communists who don't believe in good or evil, there is literally nothing you won't do for power. So if you could use biological warfare to wipe out the West. Maybe it'll take you 20 years to figure it out, but man, that sounds like a great idea. That's easy. It's way cheaper than tanks and planes. And that's what Naomi Wolf lays out in this Pfizer book that she has published with Steve Bannon. But this is as dark as anything possibly gets. And we do too. Okay. And the point is that it's documentable. This isn't just our imagining. they've had a proof of concept in using a biological warfare agent out of that illegal biological warfare program, including the Wuhan Institute of Virology, to kill a million of us more now. And they have in the wings vastly more dangerous biological warfare capabilities.

And I think we ignore at our peril those capabilities and their intent. This is amazing. Folks, I hope you will pick up a copy of this book, The Indictment by Frank Gaffney. This is vitally important. We need to move the narrative in this nation so that we understand what this is and what we must do. The book is The Indyement. I'll be right back with Frank Gaffney. Are you tired of not getting a good night's sleep?

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You lay out in the book nine charges against the Chinese Communist Party. And you say, number one, it's perpetrated crimes against the people of China and its captive nations. Charge two, the CCP is at war with America. Charge three, the CCP has captured America's elite and is using it to take us down.

Let's start there. Because that's the answer to your question. Why are we not hearing more about this? Because the Chinese have cunningly, but understandably, decided it is

desirable to spend a trivial sum, tens of billions of dollars, let's say, buying up America's leadership. And of particular concern, for example, is our financial elite who are responsible for having migrated by some estimates three, perhaps as much as six trillion dollars from American investors' money in capital markets of the United States. to Chinese Communist Party front companies. You can buy a lot of unrestricted warfare and the old-fashioned kind for that matter

for $3 to $6 trillion, and they are. It's not just the financial sector. It's not just the business elite. It's not just the academics. It's not just the media. It's not just Hollywood. And it's not just our political representatives who have in large numbers,

a good friend of mine and I hope of yours, Trevor Loudon, has done the latest of several volumes he's performed as a real public service to our country on enemies within. A two-volume set describing what he calls security risk senators, which has dossiers on 40 members of the current United States Senate that he believes can reasonably, accurately, and demonstrably be described as captured. And five of those senators are Mitch McConnell. He's a notable one on the Republican side of the aisle.

I mean, look, I have to say, again, the American people need to be angry. They need to understand that people who are supposed to be representing them and the interests of the United States have sold their souls to the devil, have made bargains, and are being used by the wickedest forces in the world against America. We need to be honest about this, and we need to throw them. the bums out. I wish we could ride them out of town on a rail the way we used to do. But this is very real. And we need to be talking about it. So I'm glad you and I are talking about it today. The book is the indictment. But I think a lot of people want to believe, as many did with the

Soviet Union, well, you know what? It's just, it's far away. It's over there. And why do I need to worry about it. There are a lot of people that they're comfortable, they're lazy, they're complacent, they're selfish. They just, they don't want to care really. But increasingly, they're being forced to care, at least more and more people, I think, are picking up on this. No doubt about it. You know, one of my favorite lines is that conservatives are liberals who've been mugged by reality. Look, we've all been mugged by the reality of that biological warfare attack. It's killed a million of us. And then there's the hundred thousand a year of us that being killed by the Chinese chemical warfare attack.

Okay, so who knows, who knows this? In other words, it seems to me that Donald Trump, for example, understands that this was Chinese warfare. He did. Okay. So Donald Trump understands this. He, it seems to me, has been awake to this, to this threat, to this evil. By the way, long before he became president.

Long before he became president. Right. I remember him talking about me. I've seen clips of him talking about this. So how is it, I mean, so wouldn't it be logical to assume that China would have a vested interest in doing anything it could conceivably do to keep him out of the White House for a second term? You bet. And I think they did. Let me just finish this thought because it's an important data point for your public, your audience.

In addition to the hundred senators of whom 40 seemed to be compromised by the Chinese Communist Party, including on the Republican side of the aisle, the Senate Republican leader. Yeah. According to Trevor Loudon's six volumes now forthcoming, he entitles House on Americans, there are roughly 100 members of the House of Representatives that have similarly been compromised. So you ask the question, and it's not rhetorical. I know you really are probing for the answer here. I believe that part of the reason why most of us don't understand this problem is the people we rely upon us to tell us,

about the problem are part of the problem. We have, and you said it exactly right, running them out of town on a rail is probably too good for them, but removing them from office, forcing their resignation, where appropriate, impeaching. And in any case, where possible, prosecuting them for treason is, I believe, the single most important of some 20 corrective actions we recommend in the book. I mean, prosecuting for treason, what's the last time we've prosecuted somebody for treason? We kind of act like, well, we don't do that anymore. That's true. We don't even think it's a problem.

We don't even think, you know, basically since Joe McCarthy's day, a man who the Soviet Union took out because he was too close to exposing what they were doing, it has been impossible to talk about the enemy within. We will continue talking about the enemy within. The book is the indictment. Frank Gaffney, the all. author, very important, we'll be right back. Listen, happiness, through love and charity, why you think he's talking straight to you and me. Talk to Frank Gaffney. The new book is The Indictment, Prosecuting the Chinese Communist Party and Friends for Crimes Against America, China, and the World.

So the Chinese communists are not stupid. They know that they can buy influence, and that for, you know, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for chump change, they can get people like Joe Biden to look the other way while they do X, Y, and Z. It would be dumb not to do that. I mean, it is a universe in their world rife with corruption. It's pure corruption from stem to stern. And if they can use some money to gain a foothold in the White House, in our government, they've certainly done this in the universities around America.

They've done this with big tech. They've done this with corporations. they're throwing their money around, and it has paid tremendous dividends. Yes, it has. Look, it would be one thing, Eric, if Joe Biden were just looking the other way at the criminal behavior of the Chinese Communist Party, which I think properly understood is not a political party. It's not even a government. It is a transnational criminal organization. Yeah.

know, sectors of our economy and our society are not just looking the other way. They're aiding and abetting that criminal conduct. That means they're accomplices. Yeah. And they need to be exposed and prosecuted as such. So you are not shy about saying that the Chinese communists used COVID deliberately to harm Americans. Unquestionable. Okay, well, you know how we...

Give us more... How we know that? Because, you know... We did another study in a different book called the CCP is at war with America, which is actually charged to. The CCP as at America was put together by a group we call the Team B3 to get a sort of independent, second opinion, on something that the director of national intelligence,

Joe Biden's DNI, put forward, which was basically, I think back in September of 21, if I can remember correctly, just couldn't tell where that virus came from. Did it come from nature? Did it come from a laboratory? We just couldn't tell. We looked very carefully at it

with some of the best national security practitioners, including Dr. Stephen Hatfield, who was arguably the preeminent expert on biological warfare in America. The answer we came up with is there is no real evidence that it came from nature, and there is abundant evidence,

albeit circumstantial, that it came from a lab, But what really was telling, we can't say for sure how it got out of the laboratory. What we do know is once it was out of the laboratory, they sent it here purposefully, malevolently, and by calculation to do harm. I believe to do harm to Donald Trump, for the political reasons you mentioned, but most especially as a proof of concept of the kind of harm they could do to our country, our people, and our constitution with biological warfare. And as I say, there's worse still in that laboratory and others that they're a building. And we have reason to believe that so because we've taught them. We've given them the technology.

We've given them the financing, thanks to Tony Fauci, to have gained a function research that makes the diseases vastly more deadly than they were to begin with. That means if they do want to exercise an option to debrief. to depopulate the United States, which you may remember the old neutron bomb debate. Kill all the people. Yeah. Save all the buildings.

Leave the buildings intact. Is what you can do with BW. Right. And that, I think, is exactly what they have in mind if they seek to colonize our country. BW being biological warfare, a new term, BW. Well, who is on to this? In other words, you know, Steve Bannon is talking about this. but who else out there is to, I mean, it's just fascinating to me that we have sort of, you know, it's kind of like opening up our borders.

We have really ceased to defend ourselves. I mean, if you don't have people working on this 24-7, what are they working on? Why wouldn't they be working on this? If your career depends on conforming to the preferred narrative, the preferred course of, action, the preferred relationship with the Chinese Communist Party. You said it very well yourself. Basically, if we just make them rich, they'll be more like us, or we'll certainly just be competitors, and maybe not even that, but we'll all just get along.

That has been used to take us down, and people in positions of responsibility, I believe, are aware of it and have chosen either not to do anything about it because it's inconvenient or dangerous perhaps, but also in many cases to help the Chinese Communist Party do it to us. And just as one further example, the United States military is at the end of the day an institution we rely upon to protect our country against precisely these kinds of threats. The unrestricted kind, the pre-kinetic kind to some extent, but certainly the kinetic kind, which is now in the offing. they have been suborn. Charge seven is the Chinese Communist Party's friends in the United States have done the Chinese Communist Party's bidding in helping to demoralize, to destroy the readiness, the spree to core. You need cohesion and the rest of our military.

I want to see if I can understand this. I know that General Millie is an evil villain, but I don't know if that's just because he's stupid or it's a combination. You always wonder, is it a combination of naivetee and self-interest, self-serving greed, what it is? But how, you know, I want to understand how does that work that some of these elites in the Pentagon and elsewhere would be able to be sucked in to helping China and harming America? I don't really, I don't understand, Emmy. I'm sure every case is different. Look, I worked in the Pentagon for Ronald Reagan. I worked on the Senate Armed Services Committee before that, overseeing the Pentagon with the Senate.

We have a tradition of civilian control of the military, and it's easy to rationalize if you're in uniform that you're just following orders and you're doing what you're told by your civilian authorities. And if your civilian authorities are telling you, you know, we want to wokeify or some similar term, you know, effectively achieve the kind of fundamental transfer. that Barack Obama advertised. You go along with it because you're just doing what your civilian authorities tell you. If you are destroying the United States military in the process, you have a duty to regard that as an unlawful order and to resist it or to resign. Millie has not done it, but we're about to get Millie 2.0, which I think will be considerably worse. All right then. We'll be right back.

We're talking with the author of a brand new book, The Indictment. Frank Gaffney, don't go away. Folks, we continue talking with our friend Kevin McCullough of that Kevin show. We've rebranded him. Yes, he still votes Trudamas, but he is available across social media at that Kevin show. And obviously, I recommend that you follow him. Because a big part of what I've been saying, Kevin, wherever I go, I'm speaking all over

the place. I was just in Alaska. People say, what can I do? One thing you can do is not listen to lies. Wean yourself from listening to mainstream media. and I would include Fox News at this point. You've got to find sources where you're getting the truth, where you're getting the whole story.

And that's a little bit difficult. So I say to people even just follow me on Twitter. If you just follow me on Twitter, the people that I retweet, you're going to get the truth. You're going to find stories. That's one important thing we have to do. So I want people to follow you on social media. Follow me on social media.

I also want to say that we believe that we can do many things at once. And we are doing a campaign, for example, right now with Christian Solidarity International. They are literally freeing slaves. And we can participate in that. In fact, I would say to my audience, you've got to participate. I don't know how. I don't know if you have $5 or $10 or $10,000, but everyone ought to participate because it's a magnificent opportunity. you can go to metaxis talk.com and click on the banner.

But Kevin, you have a history with CSI as well, and you were just talking to me off the air about what's going on. Well, they, and people may have seen some of the violence that's taking place in Sudan's capital. And there's a, it's just a, it's just a region of the world that's in turmoil. But CSI is faithfully doing their duty to go and liberate slaves that are being held. These slaves have primarily been the spoils of the civil war that was held when Sudan was a single country. It's now been divided into two countries. The world governments came at the end of that war and said, let's create South Sudan. That can be a haven for the Christians that are living under persecution from the Arabs of the North.

But they didn't free the slaves. And so there were about 185,000 slaves in captivity at one point. There are about 35,000 now, which means that CSI, because they're the only group that's been doing, has liberated over 100,000 over the last decade or so. And we are continuing to find out that there are slaves and children of slaves that we can liberate. And this year, your show and my show and just a handful of other people are raising this awareness across the globe.

And we're asking people to help us. Now, I just read a story of a woman who was freed just last year. So it could have been one of your listeners, Eric, that actually gave the gift that freed Nyanat, I think, is how you say her word, say her name. And obviously, the names in Sudan don't sound like names we use in the West. And so it's, you know, a little bit goofy to hear these kind of odd names. But if you just think of this as a young girl who, when she was about 12, she's at home, helping her mom. Her mom's talking about her getting married someday and she wants to teach her to cook and to sew and to do things that a mother and a daughter would do.

and the Arab raiders came from the north, basically leveled the town, burned it to the ground. Everybody in Nanuette's family scattered. They just went out into the fields and tried to run. She was captured by those same raiders. She was then marched to North Sudan. And for the next 12 years, she was made to not only service the slave master that she originally serviced, but when he wanted to reward somebody with a reward or something, he would give her to them to use sexually for their pleasure.

And so she became this kind of dehumanized version of herself. And 12 years later, she heard about a CSI retriever being in the town. She made contact with him, and she was able to be liberated. She was brought back to the South at the age of 24. or she was able to tell her story and she was able to say, I am free, but please don't leave the ones that are still there behind. Every slave that gets liberated says the ones that are still there need to be saved. Folks, we can't make it any clearer.

You want to fight evil. Please go to metaxis talk.com. Click on the banner. Give generously metaxistalksot.com. Kevin, thank you. Thank you.