The Eric Metaxas Show - Frank Gaffney (continued)

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

Frank Gaffney expresses the urgent need for citizens of this country to finally wake up to what is happening to our freedoms and our way of life and to do whatever they can in their sphere of influence to save the nation. 

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Here now is the handsome, attractive, striking, gorgeous and quite frankly breathtaking Eric Mattexas. Folks, we're back with Frank Gaffney talking about his brand new book, The Indictment, prosecuting the Chinese Communist Party and Friends for Crimes Against America, China and the World. So the first thing, I guess, Frank, is to recognize what is happening. And that is a big thing because most people aren't aware of this or maybe they don't want to know. and we've been fed the lie that, you know, well, the Chinese aren't that bad or the, well, the Chinese people aren't that bad. The Chinese people are just like we are. But the Chinese Communist Party is as evil as it gets. And they are, they've been ruthless and they continue to be ruthless. So who is awake to this? We mentioned Donald Trump. Is there anyone as aware of this as Trump?

Look, I mentioned this idea of being mugged by reality. I think a lot of us have, in fact, now become alive to something that's very unsettling that we do have this terrible enemy. And it really is horrible in many respects. But mostly we're seeing it. You know, it's kind of like that old line about, you know, a group of blind men trying to figure out what is an elephant. Yeah. You know, they got the trunk and they've got the leg. and they've got the tail and they got the tusk

and what on earth is this thing? We are seeing the pieces. Many of us are getting the idea that there's this dot that's very unpalatable and it is ominous. But we don't get the connection to the other dots that really explicate

how serious the problem is. That was the purpose. You asked me about how did this book come about. It came about, first of all, by that imprinting with Reagan that we can change the trajectory of our history. It came about as a result of the web

that some of the best minds in the country, subject matter experts, those kind of people that populated the previous committee on the present danger, national security experts, business leaders, people who deeply knowledgeable about China and the like, who've come together and done 70 webinars at the time of this printing. Yeah. 70 hour plus long webinars to deep dive on these various lines of attack in this unrestricted warfare. We've taken the best of their ideas. the best of their recommendations, the best of their analyses. And we've tried to make them accessible to people

through this device of nine different charges that will help everybody connect the dots. And my point is, once that happens, again, the Court of Public Opinion, you will find elected officials seeking the kind of mandate that Ronald Reagan got to make a change because they understand that's what the Post is expecting of them and needs to do.

Okay. I'm just looking at the book randomly, and at one point you write, a man who has studied closely the devastation of this country wrought by the COVID pandemic and the adoption of the China model in response to it. So this is the classic thing that just the level of naivitian stupidity. It's astonishing. It's mind-bending that we let the WHO and whatever dictate our response. It's kind of like asking the arsonist. So how do we put the fire out? And so you write that Kevin Freeman, he writes that what was unleashed by the CCP was biological warfare and perhaps the greatest economic weapon of history. This is huge. So you have the Chinese communist

party saying, we want to take America down a notch. How do we do that? So they press a button, so they let this COVID disease really come to America, very cannily. So it's one thing, okay, people die, but it put this country another $8 trillion in debt. So we went from about $22.5 trillion to $30.5 trillion. It brought inflation, caused problems in the stock market, shut down small business. It is the most impactful economic weapon that you can imagine. Kevin Freeman goes on to say, in the midpoint of Trump's presidency, the economy was strong. We were holding China accountable. Small business was growing. When this virus was unleashed, it reversed all those favorable American trends and literally traded places and gave China the stronger

position. That's a fact. But who's talking about that? You don't get a lot of people talking about that. it starts somewhere. Well, it starts here. You're a student of the Bible, certainly far better than I. The remnant needs to be engaged. And what you do with this program and what we're all trying in our other platforms is to get the American people engaged before it is too late. And we're very, very close to that point, I fear. But this is a contribution to trying to do that.

And I just want to say about Kevin Freeman, he is, I think, one of the finest experts in the country on this whole phenomenon of economic warfare. So when he talks to you about that as a key element of the unrestricted warfare against our country, take it to the bank, folks. And we've got to deny them the ability to continue to do that, especially with our money. Well, he goes on to say, I didn't read it to the end. He says, the China, the CCP's been a bad actor under any circumstances, and we have the buy. bio-weapons labs through the NIH, and we have funded them with our spending and buying all these Chinese products, moving our plants to China. Worst, perhaps, of all, is we funded them with our stock market investments, including

taking money from the pensions of servicemen and women and trying to put them into Chinese stocks. This is the kind of thing that your head explodes, that we have foolishly worked with them as though they were, you know, friendly, as though we were dealing with, you know, France. or something like that. And I guess many people naively believe that. And there are other people, I think, deeply, deeply cynical people who don't really care. They don't care. I don't know how many people would believe it if they just gave it a moment's thought.

But they're being told it. That's the problem. Is this captured elite has set forth a narrative. And here's the other piece of this. And you understand this so well. You've written about it, I think, a lot. Deviating from the common narrative from the acceptable norm is dangerous. It's scary. You get denounced, you get

silenced, you get canceled. Most of us don't have any interest in being there. So unless people who you elect to represent you and know this stuff and act appropriately on it are telling you the truth, it's very easy. It's not just comfortable. It's perhaps even deemed necessary to go along and get along. Well, and it's also the case with the media that you have to banish from your life the media that aren't interested in these things or that are actively working against telling the truth

and you have to find those media sources that are telling the truth. So, of course, at the top of the heap, Steve Bannon, thank God for Steve Bannon. But it's interesting how I think every day more and more people are picking up on these things. More and more people. are thinking, wait a minute, hold on a second, what they've told us is wrong. And, you know,

not everybody tracks it, but a lot of people are tracking it. And they're kind of looking around and thinking, you know, we talked about the Durham report. They think, well, I heard that. I thought that might be true, but now we know that it's true. I heard that the vaccine was causing all kinds of harms. I didn't want to believe it. You know, I got the shot, whatever. But son of a gun, I keep, there's more and more reports. There's more and more 23-year-old soccer players dropping dead. So I think that there are people every day kind of waking up that they've been lied to. But it's hard because we grew up in a world where basically we're being told the truth

or basically we were self-governing. But especially because typically, as I said earlier, what you're seeing is a part of the story. To really take the full measure of what we're up against, you have to get it all sort of synthesized for you. And that's what we've tried to do with the indictment. Well, much more coming up, folks. I'm talking to Frank Gaffney. This is, it's as important as it gets. The book is the indictment prosecuting the Chinese Communist Party and friends for crimes against America, China, and the world. And again, by friends, lots of really, really soulless corporations that are, they may as well be bought and paid for by the Chinese Communist Party if they're, you.

not literally because they are as anti-American as it gets and they are participating in this. And we need to stop buying their products. We need to talk about that. We'll be right back talking to Frank Gaffney. The book is The Indictment. I don't know about you, but I'm sick and tired of iconic American brands selling us out to appease radical leftists. But it's not just beer and sneakers.

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The book is the indictment prosecuting the Chinese Communist Party and Friends for Crimes Against America, China, and the world. Frank, where do we start? We have. have an open border with people coming in day by day by day, you're told if you're against that, you're a racist. Except why, if I were the Chinese Communist Party, why wouldn't I infiltrate America that way, game the system, game the suckers that pretend like this is this is all good for America? It'd be crazy not to do that. You know, it's kind of like you're you're providing, it's kind of like saying, you know, there's not going to be any cops anywhere in this neighborhood. If I'm a criminal, I would be a fool not to go to that neighborhood.

Why would the Chinese communists not take advantage of open borders? Well, to the contrary, that is exactly what they're doing. You know, for example, they work hand and glove with the cartels. They're not only providing them the wherewithal to manufacture fentanyl. for example, chemical warfare agent, but they're also money laundering the proceeds of the sale for the cartels in Mexico. But worse than that, arguably, is we now see coming across that open border, and effectively, and effectively there is no border any longer.

People who are described by on-site, skilled war correspondence, notably Michael Jan, and Todd Benzman and others, that there are not only significant numbers of unaccompanied, military-aged Chinese national men, but traveling with identical backpacks and canteens in what appear to be groups moving as units. to our border and through the border and wants here to be distributed at taxpayer expense all over the country. Now, Michael Yan, for example, or anybody with a lick of sense is going to look at that and say,

that's an invasion, the old-fashioned kind of invasion, and it's setting up an insurgency in this country, that if, God forbid, as I fear, the Chinese are now moving inextrably, in the direction of an actual shooting war to complement their unrestricted or pre-kinetic warfare, there will be a home front dimension to this that could be absolutely devastating. I mean, look at what happened with 19 guys in 9-11. That's child's play compared to what thousands of Chinese People's Liberation Army or Ministry of State Security operatives trained in the business of sabotage or assassinations or subversion or mass destruction could accomplish. So this is, again, this is the kind of thing, Eric, that I think if you simply look at the evidence that's available.

And one of the services that we try to provide in this book in the back is every single one of the 70-plus webinars that we've drawn on, with quotes and insights from has a QR code. And for free, you can go look at that video yourself. You can do it without the book, for that matter, at present danger china.org. But we wanted to tie in the most important points, as we saw them, some of them at least, with where you could get the rest of the content and thereby become capable in your own right of connecting these dots. And then I pray, and I really mean literally pray, that you will maybe buy another of these books or at least pass it along to the friends, to the family, to the neighbors, to the colleagues, to the elected representatives who all have skin in this game, whether we know it or not, whether we are willing to acknowledge it or not. This is our hour.

it is up to us to try to determine, as Reagan said, whether we will do what we must do in our time to defend our country against its existential threat to freedom and pass on liberty to the next generation to do the same because they too will have that cost bearing on them. But here's the last point. He said, and it's so powerful, Eric. he said if we don't rise to that challenge if we don't do our duty if we don't defeat our time's existential threat to freedom we will tell our children and our children's children what it was like to live in the united states when men were free and we are really uh i know that we're very very close apart from god this is not possible um and and and people what i'm saying everywhere around the country that i go that if your faith doesn't lead you to action I don't know what kind of faith you have.

If you don't care about any of these things, you're useless. You've got the devil's theology. Because to do nothing when this kind of evil is happening and to pretend that that's okay. But there are, as you know, many, many churches that would never go near any of these things. They just don't want to know. They don't care. And these are the same kinds of people who, when Hitler was taking over Germany. They had not one word to say. But they had, they didn't say, oh, I'm pro-Hittler.

They just said, well, that's not my lane. I'm just going to stick to theology, stick to the gospel. And there are tons of churches across this country that they just act like this is not relevant. Well, could I just say, I was so moved by your letter to the American church in which you called them out for that. It's true of the church, but it's true of our society more generally. Oh, there's no doubt. The reason I wrote it led to the American Church is I want to speak to those who dare call themselves Christians. If you don't, we've got another argument.

I can yell at you as an American who has benefited from people who died for freedom and you owe them something. But speaking to Christians, to me, the parallel again to the German church, the German church had the power to do something and didn't. It's that simple. It's not that it was a fool's errand that they didn't, that they would have been tilting at windmills. They actually had the ability to do something. And that's why when you lay this out in this book,

we need to understand that we have a duty to do what we can do, and then the results are in God's hands. There's so much more to talk about. You talk about subversive information operations that the communist Chinese are using, using, you know, actual disinformation. In other words, they are basically taking advantage of our free society and introducing ideas or helping bad ideas along deliberately to weaken us.

I mean, why wouldn't they? But go ahead. Yeah. Well, hearken back to, to Mao Zetong, the great leader of the Chinese Revolution that brought to power the Chinese Communist Party. He began that killing spree that we talked about earlier. He used the technique of dividing and conquering masterfully. It came to be called cultural Marxism.

He sought specifically to use as a vehicle for fracturing his society, first to defeat the Kuomintang. the pro-Western nationalists. And then to defeat the Communist Party that wasn't fully aligned with him in the cultural revolution. Mostly class warfare. Marxists trained in cultural Marxism and using the techniques of Maoism have used race in our country to a similar purpose. And whether it's critical race theory or whether it's woke or whether it's woke or whether it's defined in some other way. It is all about dividing and conquering, weakening, and ultimately destroying this country.

And if we think of it as anything else, we're not going to be able to content with it, let alone prevent it from succeeding. Well, it's chilling stuff, but as you say, you know, where there's a will, there's a way. If we can wake up to this, we can figure out a way to deal with it. But first we have to wake up to it. We've just got about a minute left, Frank. What can we say, finally, other than people getting the book and buying it, it's called the indictment? There are 20 action items that we recommend as part of the response to the dangers that we've been discussing. They're very sensible.

Most of them are quite, I think, practicable. All of them need to be adopted. And it starts with people getting this book, taking it aboard. and I hope, as I say, calling upon those who represent us, at least nominally, to adopt these action items as their own. The action items are found on page 117. The book is The Indictment, Prosecuting the Chinese Communist Party and Friends for Crimes Against America, China, and the World. I think we have just a few minutes left to go over these, and I want to read what they are. Number one is understand the threat.

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Number one is understand the threat. So reading this book and becoming aware of the threat is obviously number one. Number two, investigate Biden, his subordinates and others for elite capture by the CCP. This is huge. We have a president, quote unquote, an administration and many, many in Congress who have effectively sold their souls to the devil for money, for power. And they are working from the inside helping the Chinese communists destroy this nation. I mean, that's pretty dark, folks, but we need to deal with that. Number three, removed from office, demand resignations of those compromised.

That's another one. I mean, we need people in our Congress, senators, to do something to speak up, to call for. Let me just make one very obvious point. If, as I said, God forbid, the Chinese Communist Party decides to go to war over Taiwan. The consensus of our experts is they will not only attack Taiwan and probably other of our friends and allies in the Western Pacific, they will attack. Our assets, our personnel in our territory as well. Where?

Possibly here in the mainland, but certainly Hawaii and Guam bases overseas. But the kicker is, Eric, that if we fail to appreciate that they will be coming for us here in the United States, we make that much more certain, I fear, that we will persist in a policy that is insane. which is having somebody working for them in charge of the United States military. That can't possibly be tenable, let alone successful. So that has to be. Well, so we need leadership in the Senate and the Congress. You also, number seven, is disengaged from China economically by, among other steps,

weaning this country as soon as possible from the CCP's strategic supply chains. Again, lunacy that we have not yet done that, that COVID didn't wake. us up to the fact that we need to do that. Number eight, cut off financing of any Chinese companies listed on U.S. exchanges or traded there. Why don't people have the guts to do that? I mean, that's a basic thing. It's because Wall Street is powerful, influential with its donations, and able to dictate to most elected officials what they can and can't do. And therefore, successive efforts to legislate this has been blocked. Right. But so Wall Street is soulless, which is to say evil.

How else do I interpret what you've just told me? That they don't care about America. There are people who do. The trouble is the people who run the place. Predominantly don't and have been paid handsomely for it, which creates a model for an awful lot of other people to follow. You say we ought to ban TikTok and other national security-threatening apps. Talk about that for a moment, because a lot of people, I've heard noises made.

What do you make of this? It's pretty straightforward. TikTok is used to gather intelligence about the users, including by turning on their cameras and their microphones without authorization, mining their apps, mining their data, mining their social networking and other information, personal health and the like. But that's only part of the problem, Eric. The Chinese have perfected the addictiveness of these platforms, and they use that opportunity to push their narratives on us. Our country is evil, racist, systemically racist. Capitalism is horrific, and Chinese communism is the way of the future. It is desirable.

It is fair. It is equitable and all the rest. that is a mainlining of the enemy propaganda into the body politic of the young in this country, and it couldn't be more insidious or dangerous. Number 16, ban CCP and cutouts purchase of farmland and food production companies. How do we even allow the Chinese to buy farmland in America? You just can't believe that that's even possible. It's not only possible it's being done to a fairly well.

Yeah. And including even parcels of land in close proximity to strategic assets of our country, military bases, intelligence assets and the like. This is the kind of thing that there is absolutely no reciprocity. Of course. Well, that's the point. On the part of the Chinese Congress. On that grounds alone, we shouldn't be doing it. Right.

The naivete of Americans is just astonishing, really. we don't seem to understand that there's real evil in the world. Real evil in America. And of course in America, yeah. But I mean the idea that we really have to understand that before we're going to do anything about it. And there are many people that don't want to understand it. But by the grace of God, we're being forced to understand it as things get worse and worse and worse. We're out of time, Frank.

I just want to say thank you on behalf of my fellow Americans and my audience for the work that you've been doing for a long time for this book. The indictment prosecuting the Chinese Communist Party and Friends for Crimes Against America, China, and the World. I don't think that there's much more important than this. It's, in a sense, at the heart of all of our troubles. So thank you for writing the book and for all you're doing. God bless you. you too much. Back, we serve a good God, a God who allows us to participate in his work in our generation.

We're talking to Todd Chapman with Christian Solidarity International, and part of God's work right now, through Christian Solidarity International, is literally freeing slaves from captivity. And I want us, as the Western, the American Church, to understand the evil in the world, world, it will deepen your faith if you understand the evil in the world and if you understand that God has appointed you to take a part in doing something about it. That's a fact. That's a fact. Todd, talk to us about some of the stories or one of the stories of one of the women that has been through this process. So we can put more of a face on this because it's... Sure. Yeah. So I guess I guess.

The one that first comes to mind is a woman named a juk, and I had the opportunity to meet her and learn her story. She's about 26, 27 years old now, but she was taken captive when she was three years old. She was at her home in South Sudan. Her grandma was there with her at the time. They were just going about daily life, and these raiders came into her community. And grandma was too old to have any value, so they left her behind, but they took a juk and they took her. mother as slaves. And so they take them to the slave camp in the north and they were separated. Mom was taken, you know, to one family. A juke was taken to another. And basically now her life

just became this nightmare of doing whatever her slave master told her that she was to do. She was raped by this man, even though he had his own family. He raped a juke. She got pregnant twice. And finally, she was able to come into freedom just a few years ago because she happened to meet this Arab slave liberator that we partner with to go in and negotiate freedom for these slaves. And he found he met her at a market. He identified that she was likely a slave, began to have dialogue and said, look, I think we can get you out. And thank God we were able to do that. And so now, a joke is, she's back in South Sudan. But she's, her mom is still in North Sudan, still in slavery.

And she, as you can imagine, she's thankful for her freedom, but she wants to see her mom liberated. And so we're working to see if we can make that happen. And that's just one story. And I kept a really high level. I mean, you know, when you hear about the abuse, the physical, the mental, the psychological abuse that these women have endured, it's just heartbreaking. And, Eric, I just got to tell you, if you could hear these stories and look one of these people, in the eye face to face, there's no way that you would not give something to affect the freedom of another human being because whether you're a person of faith or a Christian or just a human

being, you can't stand idly by, you know, this kind of, these kind of heinous acts are taking place in this world and not do something about it. And I want to point out this too because I think you're right. We as Americans, you know, we live in incredibly blessed and in many shielded life, we don't really, I think, understand the scope of global slavery. The fact of the matter is, in 2017, I think they estimated there were about 40 million slaves in the world in various forms. And now I just read the latest stats as more data is coming in. They continue to, you know, figure out more. It's north of 50 million people. So this is a growing problem. This is not a shrinking problem. And so I think it's incumbent upon people of goodwill and people of faith,

certainly to, number one, become aware. And then number two, ask how you can be engaged in doing something to prevent or rescue people from slavery. And that's what you can do when you partner with CSI and really hoping that you will. I, you know, I just want to say we had at on this program and at Socrates in the city, we had Yombi-Py-Py-Ele-Me-Py. park on. She was in North Korea, which is as brutal and nightmarish as it gets. I don't want to go into it. She is

then, she escapes to China where she is sex trafficked, effectively becomes a sex slave. When you hear her story and the stories of the people around her, it's almost unbearable, basically.

And yet, there is nothing we can do in this way. about what's going on North Korea. We can pray that God would give us leaders who can help us to deal with some of these places. But when you can actually do something like this, when you can free people from a life of nightmares, I don't know how it's possible for us

who claim to be believers to just turn away. And I want to exhort my audience. You will be blessed, whatever you do, whatever you do. where everybody can do something, $250 frees a human being. A human being like yourself, like your parents, like your kids, a human being from this kind of slavery. And I want to say I just, I put this out there. Anybody who can give $10,000 or more, and I know there are many of you out there, this is tax deductible, that would free 40 people, which is insane that there are people that can do this.

I just say, what can I do? Well, I offer myself to spend the evening with you, we can have dinner together. If 10 people want to give $1,000 each, and we can all have dinner someplace, I get around the country. It's just something that I can do. My time has become increasingly very, very valuable. But it's my delight to meet people who care about these things, who have faith to do what God asks them to do and who actually act on it. So I just throw this out there in case there's somebody who wants to do that or be a part of it, $10,000 or more. And I always work it out so that we can spend an evening together.

And we can rejoice that in this country we have the freedom that we do. And not only that, but we have the freedom to use our money to free human beings literally in slavery today. Again, I think it's part of what God is doing in the church today is he's waking up the church to the global church to say, this is the body of Christ. This is your responsibility. It's not people over there. If you can do something about it here, it becomes your problem. This is our problem, but it's not a problem. It's an opportunity.

It's something beautiful. I can't think of a more powerful witness than to say, I gave $250 in your name to free. a slave, that you put your money where your mouth is. You don't just talk about God, but you live it out. Go to metaxus talk.com. You'll see the banner, metaxisotcom. Or you can call 888-253-3522. I exhort you to call 888-253-3522. I hope you'll do it today. 888-253-3522. Hey there, folks. I hope you have heard that on this program, we are doing an appeal to you, my listeners, the audience for the show, to raise funds for Christian Solidarity International to free slaves. That is exactly what I said. Literally to free slaves. Christian Solidarity International since the 1990s has been doing this. They have freed 100,000 slaves. But there are many more. who are enslaved now, real people, just like you and your family. And I'm talking to Todd Chabin.

He's a spokesperson for CSI. Todd, you said that this is like an operation that happens a few times a year. So there's kind of an urgency to this. So how is that? How does that work? Yeah. Yeah. So you've got North Sudan, South Sudan.

We're basing out of South Sudan and going up into North Sudan and negotiating the freedom of these slaves that have been held captive, many of them for decades now, most of their lives. And so, but then what we do, the second that we negotiate their freedom, we get them out of that slave master's home off of his property. But then we gather them together. And three times a year, typically, we, it's a pretty great distance to get back down to the, you know, kind of the home base where these, we need to get these slaves taken to. So we get them in a group together. And we, we call it a slave liberation. And we transport them together. together down into South Sudan and begin to hopefully reunite them with their families and get them

started on our new life. And so it's a really exciting time for us, as you can imagine, because it's like the culmination of all this prayer and work and your donations. We've had one of those already this year. We've got another one coming up here in the next month or so, and then another one in the fall. So I guess what I'm, the point of this is there's a real urgency to what we're asking you to do today in giving your gift, whether it's $250 or maybe you can. give $1,000 because the more money that you give to us now, that will allow us to know what our capacity is to negotiate the freedom and set even more slaves up and get them started on their new lives yet this year.

And every year we try to save and free more slaves than we did the year before. Sometimes we can do it. Sometimes we can't. But, you know, we can't release a single human being except for people like you. And I have to tell you, Eric, your listeners over the years have been so incredibly generous, not just in the size of the gifts, but the fact that many of these people that have come in and partnered with CSI because of your program, they continue to give year after year after year. And so thank you for being so invested in this important life-saving work that CSI has a year.

You know, I say it all the time, we've got to live out our faith. If your faith is just some intellectual construct, I got bad news for you. It's nothing. It's dead. You don't have faith. If you don't live your faith out, the scripture says faith without works is dead. So you're not saved by your works. But if you believe you will live out your faith in works, in doing good things.

And it's vital that we understand. That's a privilege, folks. That is a privilege that we get to do things according to God's will for his purposes. You want to bless God. You do these kinds of things. So there's other things you can do. but I just want to tell you, I can't think of anything that is clearer than the idea that I give a certain amount of money and it will free people from slavery. I tremble. I tremble when I think of God and his heart and are indifferent sometimes.

And so this is an opportunity for each of us to take seriously what we claim, we believe, to do something. to do whatever you can do. The website is metaxis talk.com. That's the radio website, metaxistock.com. At the top, you'll see a banner for Christian solidarity. Please, folks, go there. If you prefer to call 888-253-3522, again, 888-253-3522. This is an amazing opportunity.

Please take advantage of this. 8-88-253-3522. Todd Chapman, thank you. Thank you, Eric. You're blessed.