The Eric Metaxas Show - Gavin Wax

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

Gavin Wax discusses the upcoming Super Tuesday.

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hostile forces are just trying to erode our liberties at every turn. So I thank God for the alliance defending freedom. And I thank God that today I get to speak to one of their lawyers. Eric Baptist, welcome to the program. Thank you for having me. Well, look, I love you guys so much, and I feel honored that I get to talk to my audience about you and help them understand who you guys are and what you're doing for this nation. What are some cases that you're working on now that we can talk about just to give folks some idea of what you're doing? ADF has a broad range of cases, but one case in particular in which I am working is our lawsuit against the U.S. Food and Drug Administration over its deregulation of chemical abortion drugs.

So who is bringing the suit? We have filed a lawsuit on behalf of eight different plaintiffs for national medical associations and four individual doctors. Okay. So explain this the case. When FDA approved the chemical abortion drug called Mithepristone, not old enough to remember it being known as RU 486, it put on certain safety standards because even the FDA back in the year 2000 under the Clinton administration recognized that these are high-risk drugs that need to be clean. closely managed and regulated. But what has happened systematically since then, starting in the last year of the Obama administration in 2016 and then the first year of the Biden administration in 2021, was they took away those essential safeguards associated with the use of these drugs.

Okay, these are called, this is called the morning after pill. No, no. This is not contraception. It's not the morning after pill or plan B. It is Mitha Pyristone, which is approved up to 10 weeks of a baby's gestational life inside the womb. Okay, I want to be clear. So, so a woman gets pregnant and a doctor says, here, take this pill. This pill will induce an abortion. And you are saying, and I've heard this many, many times that these are dangerous drugs. They're very, they're potentially very harmful.

And you're saying because of ideological, because of ideology, the left in America is removing the safeguards that were in place with the FDA. Well, I can't say if it's ideological, but I can tell you it's not medical. What else would it be? Exactly. It's not the best in the women's health. And what they did was it's a two-drug regimen. So people might ask, why is this high-risk drug?

The first drug is intended to end the unborn life inside the mother's womb. But it does not necessarily expel that unborn baby. from the mother. So there's a second drug that's also used, and that essentially induces labor and delivery in the woman. Okay, so it's two pills? It's two drugs, yes. Two drugs.

So the first one kills the child in the mother's womb. You take a pill and the child inside you is killed. It cuts off the nutrition of the baby, and the baby ultimately starves to death. I mean, even that, even hearing that, like, that's, the reason I bring this up, Eric, is that there's, there's a lot of mystery around this. People don't understand what happens.

So you just take a pill. You just take a pill. You take a pill and then what? Here's what happens. We've just heard it. You take a pill. The baby is starved to death in its mother's womb. That's how it is killed.

That's how it is killed. It's not instant. So it's a horrible thing. Then the woman has to take a second pill. And that pill, as you said, induces labor so that the dead child is forced out of its mother. So this is called Mephepristone. Is that what it's called?

Mepipristone is the first drug, and mesoprostol is the second drug. Okay. So keep going, and you're saying that the FDA has relaxed regulations around these very, very powerful drugs. Yeah, so again, this two drug regimen is so high risk that the FDA originally had three in-person doctor visits, day one to get the first drug, day three to see if any complications, are occurring and then to take the second drug. And then a day 14 follow-up exam to ensure that woman

has no fetal parts remaining inside of her complications such as infections or severe bleeding. What the FDA has now approved is essentially no doctor visits, no doctor needs to be involved. So now a woman has mailed these drugs without any medical supervision or attention or care and takes these drugs and self-administeres and performs her own abortion in her home, inducing labor and delivery in her dorm room, in her bathroom, and it's a painful, excruciating, and emotionally traumatic experience for the woman, and obviously the baby.

And so ADF, on behalf of you said eight groups, is suing the food and drug administration. Correct. And why we're bringing in this lawsuit on behalf of the doctors? Because our doctors are on the front lines. They work in hospitals in emergency rooms, and they're seeing an influx of women coming to the emergency room with complications associated with the use of these drugs because of what the FDA has now allowed to let these

women take these drugs all alone by themselves without any medical supervision. And they want that to stop because they care about both patients. They care about the unborn baby, but they also care about the woman who's taking these drugs and the harm that they're seeing firsthand across America's emergency rooms. It's a staggering thing when you actually hear about it. I mean, the idea that a very young woman in college, let's say, is told, yeah, just take these pills, do this, do this, do this, and she's alone. She's alone. She takes a very powerful, these are extremely powerful drugs. It kills the child inside her womb. I don't know what the woman experiences, but we can imagine that it doesn't always go according to plan. And she is alone. The FDA no longer requires a doctor to be involved. It is amazing. And I don't know what it could be except ideological. They're basic, it seems to me basically what they're saying is, look, at the end of the day,

we don't care about women that much. We just want to get this through. We just want it to happen. And yeah, some of it's going to go wrong, but we don't care. I mean, it seems scandalous to me. And so it's another reason that I love the Alliance Defending Freedom, that you're actually suing the FDA, forcing them to deal with what is happening. Exactly. I call it regulatory malpractice, but FDA has shown a callous disregard for women's health in their zeal to push these abortion drugs across the country. And before I worked on this case, I guess I didn't know much about chemical abortion or abortion drugs. And over 50%, almost 60, 60, 0% of all abortions are committed by chemical means through these drugs. Not what you think of the brick and mortar plan in parenthoods anymore.

or they're done through the mail without any medical intervention or any meeting any person in an office to be screened for life-threatening conditions that preclude you from taking these drugs. Well, and all, you know, the idea that, so you take a drug and it kills the child inside you, this is traumatic. This is major stuff to begin with. Of course, I believe it's immoral. But the idea is that that young women are. being sold this story. Like, this is no problem. We're going to, we'll mail it to you.

Here you go. You take this one. And then you take this one. And I can only imagine that there are a host of things that could happen. And the woman is alone. So God bless you and the Alliance Defending Freedom for stepping up. And folks, this is one of many, many cases, one of many, many cases. I want to encourage my audience, folks, please go to metaxis talk.com. That's my radio show website, metaxistalk.com. You'll see the banner for the Alliance Defending Freedom. We want everyone who can to give, to give generously to the Alliance Defending Freedom at Metaxistock.com. There's also a phone number. It is 855-385-0596, 855-385-0-5-96, or go to Metaxistocetop.com. Eric Baptist, thank you so much. Thank you for having me. For 10 years,

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because all the primaries in all these different states. And to discuss this, we got a super guest, Gavin Wax. He's the head of the New York Young, Republicans. Gavin, welcome back. Great to be back with you, Eric. Thank you for having me. Yes. And by the way, I should mention the other day, you were at the Socrates in the city event. It was, I don't even know what to say. It seemed like an amazing evening to me. We haven't put it up on the web yet, but I was just so glad to see you there. It was fantastic. This was my first Socrates in the city event. I think you were in fine form,

holding court. I got to see you in your natural environment, natural habitat. It was a great discussion with a friend of mine, James O'Keefe, who discussed, you know, his work over the years and all the work he's continuing to do to, you know, fight for transparency and uncover corruption and all our various institutions. And of course, I certainly enjoyed the nice dinner that you also provided after. That definitely tied things together nicely. Yeah, no, it's the Socrates events, they're amazing. They're all different. James O'Keefe is such a hero. My introduction, Dukctions are usually mostly goofy. I'm pretty sure I use the word Pimp 17 times because I was forced to count.

But anyway, folks, you can see that at it'll be up soon. We'll be editing it. If you're a member of Socrates Plus, I think you can, yes, you can see it right now, the whole unedited version with James O'Kee. If you're a member, if you sign up for Socrates Plus, it is available to you. It goes away, I guess, in two days. it goes away. But we have the unedited version up of Socrates. Plus, if you go to Socrates and City, you can sign up for Socrates Plus.

It's obviously very cheap, but you have to be signed up to see most of this stuff we have on there, including the unedited, the unbodlerized, uncensored version of the James O'Keecheeffe interview with my strange introduction. So you have to go to Socratesandcity.com. Okay, Gavin Wax, today is Super Tuesday. Many people in my audience are not, you know, political junkies. So what is Super Tuesday for those unaware? Super Tuesday is a block of 15 states, all heading to the polls at the same time for the presidential primary. It's significant because, you know, up until now, we've been discussing a state at the time, a state at a time, whether it's Iowa, New Hampshire, you know, South Carolina.

Most recently, the District of Columbia, which we can get into shortly, not a state, but certainly, voting. And Super Tuesday presents an opportunity basically to wipe the field clean once and for all. It's a massive amount of delegates are up for grabs by the presidential contenders. And obviously, the polls have shown one thing, and they've made one thing very clear that President Trump is a dominant force in this primary. Up until now, he's had a slightly more competitive state, South Carolina. He was facing the former governor, Nikki Haley, in New Hampshire, both New Hampshire and South Carolina, both being open primary states, where you have a lot of Democrats and crossover voters

coming in to influence the results. New Hampshire tends to be a little bit more on the moderate to liberal side of the spectrum. Then obviously, Iowa, you had a large evangelical vote, which is historically gone against President Trump, supposedly, you know, with Cruz and 16, but also DeSantis had a big play there. But now those early states have pretty much given way

to this massive block of 15, very geographically spread out, where President Trump is set to dominate. and really just push his numbers. I just want to be clear to give Nicky Haley a fair shake. She won in the District of Columbia, and she is hoping to crush it in Cuba and North Korea. So I think she still has a chance. If the communists will just get out there and vote for Nikki Haley,

anything can happen. But today is Super Tuesday, so we don't need to mention all the states. What is your sense of what's going to happen tonight? I think it's going to be a clean sweep tonight. I think President Trump will be winning, you know, commanding majorities in all of the states that are contested. And obviously the results will trickle in. We're dealing with different time zones. But I think it's just going to further cement what already has been cemented as a clear electoral landslide for the president in this primary. This is just going to continue what we've seen with the exception of D.C., which in many ways was sort of a beautiful moment. Of course, Nikki Haley wins. the lobbyists and the kleptocrats and the technocrats and all the other. Don't you find it funny? I mean, it's the ultimate badge of shame that the only thing that you win is the District of Columbia.

I mean, it's a badge of shame that you couldn't make up. It's like a Babylon B article that she would win the District of Columbia. It's like saying that she won Cuba, you know, 80 points ahead in Cuba and North Korea. Congratulations, Nikki Haley. I mean, I have to say that it must. I hope it makes her at least a little uncomfortable. It's kind of, it's just, it's just delightful to me that she won in D.C. Well, it certainly shows where her base is, and it's not really the grassroots.

It's not really the base of the Republican Party. It's not the working men and women of this country. It's not the forgotten men and women of this country. Those are the people that President Trump and his uplifting message of making America great again actually appeal to. No, her base are the board members of Boeing and the other military industrial complex. you know, surrogates that live in the, you know, D.C. and the surrounding area of the Beltway. So it just goes to show how out of touch her support is. It's based on the donor class. It's based on the consultant class. It's not really a true coalition of Republican and conservative voters.

But listen, I think this contest is all but over. She could continue to drag it out. She can continue to embarrass herself. I've said recently that her campaign resembles a kamikaze fighter pilot from the 1940s. You know, it's instead of a plane. It's her campaign and it's going straight into the ocean. Her electoral promises and prospects after this election are withering by the day. The longer she stays in as a threat or a counterbalance to President Trump, no one is looking for that except a select few of the most committed, never-Trumpers. So she's really losing all of her potential future prospects with every passing day.

Well, it's so interesting because if you think of Vivek, Ramoswamy, you think of Governor Ron DeSantis. You know, if they had won, they really had an agenda very similar to Donald Trump's. And the reason they didn't win is because people thought, well, we think Trump can do Trump better than they can do. But the difference with Nikki Haley is that she is the anti-Trump. She is on the different side from Vivek, from Ron DeSantis, who maybe they're not Trump, but their policies were more maga than not. It's a strange thing to have this outlier figure of Nikki Haley.

Who is she fighting for? I mean, is it for Jeb Bush, for Liz Cheney? It's just strange to me that she's out there fighting. Obviously, people are throwing money at her, people who hate Trump, and I would argue hate America. Yeah, I think she's fighting in terms of the last, you know, Hail Mary of a dying establishment, a dying old guard that are being replaced. with every passing year by a sort of America First Coalition that President Trump ushered

onto the American body politic when he came down the escalator in 2015. I think, you know, the good thing about this all is that her results and her polling have sort of quantified the percentage of the party that still remains committed to those neo-conservative, moderate positions of old. I think, you know, she's been benefiting from a lot of contests where Democrats and independents can vote in. But really, if you look at the actual percentage of Republicans, I don't think she's really anywhere outside of the 10 to 15% range. I mean, this is the party of President Trump. And you even

said it best when you related to both Vivek and Ron DeSantis, you know, say what you want about them, their personalities or their campaigns. I think it's fair to say that many of the platform, you know, points that they were pushing, many of the policy areas they were pushing, were generally aligned with President Trump's America First populist agenda. So if you add their percentages up in this primary, you have President Trump's with it, you know, you're over. 85, 90% of the Republican electorate. So if anything, this contest, this primary has just showcased what a pathetic percentage of the electorate, the neo-conservative establishment, can really claim as their own. They are representing a dwindling minority, and it dwindles further by every day,

and without Democrats voting for them, without the institutional support that they still cling on to, they would have been gone a very long time ago. Well, you know, it's fascinating. To go back, to 2016, Donald Trump picks Nikki Haley to be his ambassador to the UN. He picks many, many people who we now know are the enemies of Donald Trump and Middle America. He picked them because he, if you can ever say it of Donald Trump, this is the case. He was naive. You don't think of him as naive, but he was naive. He had no idea, no one really did of the forces arrayed against them, against him and against, you know, the most Americans idea of America. But Nikki Hilly was there, so many others that he picked.

When we come back, I want to talk about that a little bit because the question is if and when Trump wins, and by God's grace, I hope he does, or I think America's done. The question is, what will he do differently with the four years that God gives him, that the American people would give him than he did in the previous four years, where he was genuinely hamstrung, not literally, but genuinely hamstrung from doing the will of the people. We'll be right back talking to Gavin Wax. Don't go away. I know that you've got your reasons. These things that are pleasing you can hurt you somehow.

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He's the head of the New York Young Republicans. I'm a New York Republican, but I'm not that young anymore. And that's why we have Gavin here. So, Gavin, I was just talking about in 2016, Trump picked Nikki Haley and others in his administration. and it was really, I think, generous of him. He's sort of reaching out to people that maybe weren't on the same page as he was exactly, but he thought, let's work together.

And it backfired because he didn't realize he's letting trouble inside the tent. I remember I was actually the morning before he was inaugurated, there was a service at the church across the street from the White House. and I was graciously invited, and I was in that room, and there were a host of people in that room, including Nikki Haley. I spoke with her briefly. None of us could have dreamt then where things were going, that all of these people, some of them,

I literally sat next to General Flynn during the church service. And none of us could have dreamt what would be unfolding in the weeks and months ahead. We kind of thought, this is an exciting moment for America. America has picked Donald Trump. But he was, as I said earlier, hamstrung, prevented from doing what he might have done. Do you, are you of the opinion that he has learned sufficiently from what he went through since 2016 to govern differently in 2020?

Absolutely. But I also think it's important to put some context to here. I think President Trump, just from a personality perspective, he's a forgiving guy. He's a nice guy. He wants to give people second chances, maybe to a fault. And I think when he came in and, 2016, he was really looking forward to bringing the party together, to bring in the country

together, working even with Democrats, working with different factions within the Republican Party. He's a businessman by nature. He was trying to bring people together, cut deals, and sort of bring about a national unity that we haven't had in quite some time. So I can't fault him for that. I can't fault him for having that perspective, that mentality. I think the other issue is that, you know, he represented an ideological movement a little bit ahead of his time.

You know, he was representing this sort of new and upcoming, this emerging ascendant. sort of populism in the United States. And frankly, there just simply wasn't the infrastructure that existed at the time to really staff an administration that was aligned with that. You know, you still had a lot of more libertarian-leaning think tanks. You had a lot more establishment, moderate, new, conservative leaning groups. So the talent pool was limited, mostly because he was so ahead of the curve. And I also think he simply did want to build bridges and kind of create a sort of unity government, at least unity in terms of the Republican Party. So I can't fault him for that. I also can't fault him and many others who believed at the time that the country

was still, you know, still a sane place. I think things have really gone off the rails in recent years, certainly since his election and certainly since COVID to a more extreme extent. I don't think we all realized, many people, myself included, realized how power hungry, how demonic, how, you know, insane the left was and has become and what they were willing to do to take power into wheelpower in this country. I think everyone thought there was a certain level of decorum. We had our institutions. We had our Constitution. We had our republic. And there were certain guidelines and norms, cultural or otherwise, that we would follow and adhere to. And a lot of those norms have been shattered. They've been shattered one after another, certainly on this campaign

trail with some of the politicized persecutions and prosecutions of President Trump. So I certainly think he has learned. I think he understands the time we're living in. I think he understands the stakes better than anyone. He's on the front line facing those. stakes every day, whether it's in the courtroom or just any time he goes out in public. You know, fear of a bullet is a certainly real fear. So I think we're living in a completely different world than we were in 15 and 16. I think he recognizes that. And I think he also has since then consolidated his control of the party. That's been revealed through the primary process. And the movement that he ushered in has only become more articulated, more sophisticated,

and has more sea legs, so to speak. So all these things are with you on all of this. I certainly I don't want to give anybody the impression that I fault Trump for what he did in 2016. It was magnanimous. It was the right thing to do given what we knew and what he knew then. We had no idea of the evil arrayed against him and the people who voted for him, that they were instantly demonized as racists, as anti-Semitic, as any term you can throw at them. It's an amazing thing. I mean, I wrote a 600-page book about the Holocaust and the Nazis.

And I was a journalist wrote an article effectively saying, but I'm a secret anti-Semite for supporting Donald Trump. And I thought, this is madness. None of us have ever seen this level of madness, just crazy, throwing terms around and demonizing your opponents in an utterly irrational way. and that's why to me at its heart, it's a spiritual issue. This is this is not something that we can really make much sense of rationally. It's a level of madness that we've never seen.

And I think when you know, when you saw the people shrieking, you know, over his Supreme Court justice picks, just this, again, a level of madness that we've never seen before. And, you know, we all hoped that we could come together. We even had Dave Chappelle on SNL. This was in 2017 saying, you know, we need to give this guy a chance. But the dark side didn't want to give him a chance. And so they did everything they could. And they are now doubling down, demonizing anyone. Anyone who is a Christian who would vote for Trump.

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Hey, get rhythm. When you get the blues, come on, get rhythm. When you get the blues, get a rock and roll. Welcome back. I'm talking to Gavin Wax. He's ahead of the New York Young Republicans. Great to have you in New York City, Gavin Wax. I got to tell you, you know, what the left is doing in America, they couldn't do it

without the complicity of bums, of sellout bums like John Cornyn and others. It's an amazing thing, finally, to have the scales fall from your eyes and to realize that all these people you thought were sort of on your side, like Senator John Cornyn from Texas and others, and to realize that they're not. They are absolutely in the pocket of, I don't know, whoever's willing to pay them. They're willing to go along with whatever wickedness that the Democrats are putting out there. Obviously, Ted Cruz is not guilty of that. Obviously, there are a number of senators and congressmen and women who are not guilty of that. But to see how many, we mentioned Nikki Haley,

who are, they're really, they don't really have an American ideology. They're sort of kind of drifting along. They like the power. But John Cornyn recently, I don't know if you have any thoughts on this, He dared to put himself out there to replace Mitch McConnell as the minority leader in the Senate. It just staggers me that he would be out of touch enough that he would think that people would go for that. Well, unfortunately, the Republican delegation, the U.S. Senate is not known for its strengths, its fortitude, it's being principled. It's a body of senators that, as you described, are largely bought and paid for, sadly, and that represent a very dated version of the Republican Party. They don't represent necessarily the interests of the American people writ large, but certainly the Republican constituents in many deep red states.

I always sounded fascinating that sometimes our worst representatives come from some of the reddest states, the most conservative states. It just shows how low the bar has been set for many of these individuals. But listen, I welcome this new Senate leadership battle. I saw what happened in the House, and I think we got the better end of the stick there with Speaker Johnson, certainly an improvement. I think politics is all about the art and science of moving the needle marginally and on, you know, and slowly and as feasibly as we can. I don't expect any massive sweeping changes overnight being in politics when they do occur and they work in our favor, great.

But the usual trend of politics is a slow grinding march. The left understands that. That's why they play the generational game politically. And we play very cyclically in terms of the election cycle. But listen, this contest in the Senate is just part of this reshaping of the republics. party. I think he knows and many others know that if they're going to take the gavel, they're going to have to make concessions to the right, make concessions to conservatives, and make concessions to the Trump, America First Movement if they really want to take on a leadership

position. So I think that negotiating, that cajoling, that back-and-forth, backroom deal-making is going to be beneficial in the end. I mean, I don't think we could have got much worse than McConnell. So I think there's only up to go from here. Certainly, Cornyn is not my top. choice, but hopefully some other contenders emerge who are much more aligned with us. And I think overall it'll be a positive development regardless of who we get. Well, the two heroes that spring to mind in the Senate are Josh Hawley and Rand Paul. There are others, Ted Cruz. Who are some that spring to your mind who are on the right side of these issues? Well, absolutely, Holly, certainly Rand Paul, J.D. Vance. I think these are all great senators. I'm hoping we get even more

in the next with these elections upcoming, and we see a few more America first senators be elected. I think, you know, gentlemen like Hawley and Vance and even Rand Paul all represent are more representative of where the Republican Party is at and where it's heading. And I think they've shown themselves to be leaders and willing to speak principally on a variety of matters from foreign policy to domestic policy.

I don't see that same kind of principled leadership from a lot of the usual types and names thrown around. So I think we have some opportunity there, but I definitely think it's going to be an uphill fight. We saw the fight that happened in the House. I think this will probably be more civilized being the Senate after all and just the composition of that body. But still, I would hope that some of these gentlemen would put their name forward or would at least be working to ensure concessions are made by whoever is ultimately, ultimately wins this contest. I mean, you mentioned J.D. Vance. He has become a total hero. I should have mentioned him. it seems to me that Ted Cruz is as well.

Am I missing anything on Ted Cruz? Is he wobbly in any areas? I certainly like Cruz. I think he's definitely up there in terms of his standing in the Senate with conservatives and others. I mean, I think he hasn't necessarily been as front of stage, front center of a lot of the biggest Senate fights and a lot of the biggest discussions to date. There have been some questionable things here and there. But on the whole, I think, hey, Cruz in a leadership position would be a member. massive win would be a massive move in the right direction. So certainly don't get me wrong

as it pertains to Senator Cruz. I think he would be a massive, you know, upgrade. I will say that there is a reputation for Senator Cruz on the hill that he's not liked by many of his colleagues. I don't hold that against him. I actually think that's a plus, but I certainly think, you know, the animosity that he may generate from his colleagues will make, you know, this sort of path forward for him more difficult. But who knows? Maybe we'll see a Supreme Court Justice Cruz, maybe we'll see a cruise moving into a different position and Senate leadership will have to see. Well, again, when you think of all the rhino bums in the Senate, the idea that Ted Cruz might not be liked, to me, that's a feather in his cap. God bless Ted Cruz. It really is,

but it's interesting how there's just a handful of these heroes. We mentioned J.D. Vance, amazing, Josh Hawley, amazing, Rand Paul, amazing. Is there anybody else that springs to mind? I can't think just now. It's not exactly a body of individuals that necessarily jump out at you in terms of their ability to be, you know, great fighters for American principles and values. I mean, certainly there are some people whose vote records are decent, but do they have the charisma? Do they have the standing? Do they have the appeal and the image really to wage this kind of campaign to take a leadership position?

That's to be determined. But, you know, we'll have to see. we'll have to see. I'm really hoping that the Senate get some upgrades in the years to come. I think it's an area that we really need to grow in terms of our caucus in terms of our strategy. I would like the court eunuchs to throw Mitch McConnell out of the upper window.

I'm going to be a Jayhu. Push him down. Push him out. I have one more actual name. Roger Marshall, who was the speaker at the New York and Republican Club's gala. He's actually been a fantastic senator on the issues speaking from the heart. And I think he could be great.

I don't know if he's at all in the running, but he's certainly a senator that I have been. From what state? What states he from? From Kansas. From Kansas. And let me ask you, we just got the 10 seconds left. When does Nikki Haley finally get the memo?

Does she? I don't think she does. I think she's in it for the long haul, unfortunately. She's being bankrolled. She's taking orders. I don't think she even cares about how this impacts her in the future.

I think she's following a plan, following a set of orders and Martin for the tune of the dollars. Yeah. How sweet. Gavin Wax, great to have you back. Thanks so much. Thank you, sir. I'd be sad and blue if not for you.

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