The Eric Metaxas Show - Gen. Michael Flynn

Episode Date: July 7, 2023

Gen. Michael Flynn returns to the show with an assessment on the threats and opportunities facing our nation.

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Number one, our guest coming up, big deal guest. Yeah. General Flynn. Yeah, he's a heavy hitter. General Flynn is my guest in hour one today. This is a big deal. So that's number one information. Number two information, a piece of information.

Man, where do I start? Well, what did you do? Have you been up to anything interesting lately? I feel like the end is a lot. There's so much I want to say, and it's actually hard. Some of this is actually painful. Well, maybe we start with the fun stuff, and then we end with the painful. With the fun stuff, all right.

That's how I deflect. All right. So before we go to General Flynn, and I think we might have John Zmirak in hour two, because General Flynn, you know, he's kind of a soft-spoken, moderate, and we want to get to John Zmirak. But General Flynn's my guest in Hour 1, but let's go backwards.

Where was I at the end of last week? I'll tell you, I was in Los Angeles. Now, Chris, you were supposed to be with me. I was. But it was kind of like. Well, I made the mistake of booking a ticket on United States. Airlines. Skymageddon.

Yeah. Yeah, it was just crazy. Every other flight they had was canceled, and, you know, the pilot or the CEO was taking private jets instead of, you know, it was just crazy. Well, you didn't get there, but the good news is that I was the guy on camera. Yeah. So I was there. And what was I doing?

There's a lot of folks. You don't want to miss any of this because there's some crazy news to share here. But number one is that I was in Los Angeles. The Hollywood production. Well, actually, no, they always say tell people what you're going to tell them then tell them. Okay. Number one, I was on the Jordan Peterson podcast. We're going to talk about that on this program. I'm having dinner with Jordan Peterson tonight. So feel free to pray about that one. I was in Los Angeles for a film shoot. We had to put my doggy down.

Those are just the highlights of what we're going to talk about. So number one. So stick around. You can hear about the dog getting put down story. Well, no, in all seriousness, It was like completely heartbreaking. And I want to talk about it because I know so many people have been through that. And I never in my life have been through it. But we started out last week I was in Los Angeles to film the documentary film. Ladies and gentlemen, get ready because it looks amazing. The people who put this together are, I mean, these are Hollywood super pros.

Yeah, one of the guys worked for Mark Burnett, I think still does for all of his shows. It looks amazing. Everything they did. But it is the film. version, the documentary version of my book, Letter to the American Church. And it all began when I spoke at Rob McCoy's Church in California, like last century, just when the book came out, Letter to the American Church. And these two women who are, you know, they're younger than me, but they've been in Hollywood, their whole careers. And they said, we want to make a documentary

film of Letter to the American Church. We need to get the message out. And you, Chris, and and my wife, Suzanne, and others have been working on pulling this together. So finally it happened. Yeah. And I went out there and we spent two days filming in this warehouse. And it looks amazing. What they have done is just amazing. So I just want to say that that was an experience.

Yeah. And we're going to start sort of teasing out some of the behind the scenes things. And it really does look amazing. It was a big hurdle to kind of get it going. Like it was kind of like, you know, even if you'd, maybe don't believe in spiritual warfare. Like, this kind of gave you pause. If you don't, you're wrong.

It's just sort of like, you know, some people say, oh, there's, it's not a devil behind every rock, but in this case, it's, it felt like there was maybe. Well, you saw that more than I did, and it was really, yes, it was a huge thing, lots of obstacles. But the confirmation for me was more than just like, you know, bureaucracy or, you know, just human stuff was the morning of the shoot, I get a photo from the producers and the front door of the studio where you're shooting had been driven through like a starsky and hutch or you know we're not we're not joking no the door was basically blown off some some person on some substance had driven

their car through the set yeah i mean imagine like a car basically a car coming through here right yeah it was like but it happened in the in in the uh in the middle of the night so that was that was just uh 7 a m yeah so this was a huge thing that this finally happened and and and when i was there i kept pinching myself saying like it is are we finally doing this Is this really happening? And, you know, they had a huge wardrobe and a huge whatever and a huge, I mean, just we're going to send you. I posted something on my Instagram, just a funny little clip of my entrance. They did, you know, they obviously do multiple takes and stuff.

But the whole, it looks like a James Bond movie. Wait till you see it. I, okay. So it went really, really well. When it was all over, we were going to have a celebratory dinner. So I raced back to the hotel and talked to Suzanne, my current wife, almost 27 years. And she told me on the phone that she'd been to the vet and that we would have to put Georgie down before we left for our trip this Friday. And I was so unprepared for that news because, you know, what's so interesting,

thing is that through the years I have heard people talk about losing their pets and how traumatic it is and da-da-da-da-da-da-da. And part of me just didn't get it. Like I don't understand. Well, now I understand. John Smirak talked about this many times because he's had so many dogs and whatever. But it was, I don't, you know, there are very few things that are seriously perplexing and mysterious to me. And the love that we have for these animals, Yeah. And what that means to God, you know, I want to ask God. I want to ask him to explain this to us.

What is that? Because a lot of times people, you know, try to, you know, you try to get scripture verses to give you clarity. And this is one of those where, you know, it's not necessarily clear. Well, I think the clear thing is they've always been a gift sort of entrusted to us and, you know, the original Genesis account. Like, hey, here are the animals, man, you got to name them. that's on you. There's a bond there. There's sort of a connection. You know, where to take care of them. And in some ways, they take care of us. Well, this is what I mean. And the thing is, people over the years have heard me talk a little bit about this. And I think on the old

website, we had a little picture of Georgie. And I'm going to post some pictures. But this was a dog. People have to understand, I never, never, never wanted to get a dog. Why? Because I knew that someday the dog would die and it would rip my heart out. And, And so we did, of course, get Georgie. Georgie was a Maltese Yorkshire Terrier mix. Eight pounds of dynamite. And just a very cute, licky dog. Like, imagine the cutest dog you can think of and then imagine something cute.

She was, she wasn't really that licky, but she was, maybe with you, because you're Cuban. But honestly. I'm 10% sultier. Honestly, honestly, I. was over the years over and over and over and over astonished at how cute to the point of painful

this little creature was. It's true. It's like a level it's like 11, you know, it's like spinal tap, 11, you know, it goes up to 10, could we get it to go to 11? Yeah. But like a level of cuteness that I thought this is almost like the dog is aware. Yeah. Oh yeah. of, you know, whatever. And but, but a personality, an amazing personality.

And if I'm being honest, I had thoughts of stealing her. Well, people, no, listen, if I'm being honest. Georgie was so cute that people would routinely stop Suzanne in the street when she's walking Georgie and say, how old's your puppy? Yeah. 10? Yeah. Like she seemed like a puppy because she was eight pounds. To be clear, she was the size of a Chipotle burrito.

But, but not, but here's the thing. I never wanted like a lap dog or like a chihuahua. I always thought I want a dog dog. Georgie was a dog. Like that's what that was so cool. Like she had the personality, this gigantic personality of a dog. But the size of a nerve football. But the size of eight, literally eight pounds.

It's like Cleopatra Jones. She's six foot two of dynamite. Georgie, Georgie Pymeotaxis. He's eight pounds of dynamite. But no, it was such an amazing dog. So when I got that news, it was like, I just. felt like punched in the head multiple times. So we'll continue this fun story when we come back.

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We were in Danbury, Connecticut with my mom and dad yesterday and the day before. But the day before was the day that we had to take Georgie to the vet to say goodbye. And I just, I've gotten so many, you know, messages from people who have been through this and they get it. And so when I flew back from L.A., I said to see. Suzanne, I don't want to come home. Yeah. Because this is not bearable to me. I'm going to come home.

And this unbelievably sweet dog, who obviously is, you know, the vet was very emphatic. Before you go on your three-week trip to Europe, you don't want to. This dog is not in good shape. And she might seem like she's in good shape periodically, but she's not. Right. And you need to deal with this because when you're away, it's going to be tough for, you know, We have really sweet friends and relatives who were going to, you know, stay at our place to take care of Georgie. So we had to do this.

So the idea of coming home to see this creature knowing that, okay, this is your last dinner. This is, you know, like unbearable. And the only way I could deal with it is by not looking at her and, like, trying to work. Yeah. Try to get some work done. because it was not easy. But the other thing I guess I wanted to say before I get to happier subjects is that, and I say this bluntly, if it weren't for my faith in God, I don't know where you go with this stuff. Because, you know, there's so many scriptures that we can trust God. Even with the things that we don't understand, we don't know the answer, when am I going to see Georgie? Will I see Georgie? Where is Georgie now? Where's Georgie? I think the idea that we can go to God and we can give him our pain or our sorrows or our difficulties or our questions and we could trust him. That's a big thing to know that, that that's who God is, that we can really

trust him with the stuff that just makes us want to cry or that does make us cry. And I'm sure I'll have more thoughts on that in the future, but it was so hard and it just made me think of how many friends I've had who have been through this and mentioned it to me, and I didn't understand it. Yeah. So now I understand it. Yeah, I have never had to go through it myself. My parents kind of always dealt with it. I had a dog that I was very close to that ran away. So that was the closest I ever, I ever, well, we think it, yeah. He went the other way. He was like, because we beat this dog. The dog was like, I never thought I'd have to be in a position where I hated humans, but here we are. I'm going to go

fend for myself down by the marsh. No, but actually there was a marsh area where people would come and fish trout every season in Maryland and we think a hunters saw this beautiful young, you know, yellow lab and and mistook it for a chin of trout? No, no, and stole it it, just because it was beautiful.

And it probably didn't have a tag on or something, you know, or whatever. Whatever someone would do. Okay, well, at least I know Georgia wasn't stolen. But yeah, so I have more thoughts on it, but it was heartbreaking, it was beautiful.

It made me love my wife more because I saw how she cared for this dog more than anyone. And to go through this with Suzanne, actually threw us closer to each other. You know, when I would call her to talk about the letter project

half the time. Shut up, Georgie's eating. No, but honestly, often she was doing something Georgia related, you know. Yeah. Well, anyway, I'll have more to say about that, I'm sure. as I think about it, but it was just, it was really beautiful, really moving, really difficult. And my goodness, the sweetest little creature I have ever encountered. And, you know, maybe everybody says it about their kids and their pets, but I got to tell you,

this was a tremendously special creature that I just, it gave me a different view of the world. Think about that in many ways. Okay, we got other stuff to talk about. much, much less sad. I was on Jordan Peterson's podcast. He interviewed me and they aired it. I guess when I was in L.A., it dropped. That's the professional term we use in showbiz.

It dropped on, I guess, was June 29th. Yeah. And it has been so far seen, this is a long, you know, 90-minute video, 500,000 times. Wow, that's amazing. Let me repeat that. 500,000 times. And I talk way too much.

It's very embarrassing when you realize afterward, like, hey, Eric, could you shut up more? Well, you get excited and tend to want to get everything out. That's exactly right. And every idiot knows that except Eric. But it's true. And so up front, I'm talking to talk about it. But you know what? I'll tell you, tremendously positive comments on the YouTube thing.

And both of us, Jordan Peterson and I both felt like YouTube is going to rip this down because we talked about all the stuff you're not supposed to talk about. So far, it's still up. So if you haven't seen it, I would recommend checking it out on YouTube ASAP. And if you're a subscriber to Daily Wire, it's there as well. Is that the idea? Daily wire. It's a longer version maybe?

I did 90 minutes. The other thing I want to say is it's so intense and he is so intense that it kind of threw me off my game to some extent. Not really, but like the point is it's intense. You're staring at this little image of him on an iPad and you can't hear. And so it makes it a little bit less than ideal. You weren't in the same location. No, no. No, he wanted me to go to Toronto.

You smoke and crack? What? Speaking of crack and Coke, Coke in the White House. There was like there was an old, there was, there was an old Chlorox 2 commercial with Ruth Buzzy, and it was like, you know, mustard on your permanent press, what'll you do? That da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, what'll you do? And if you don't use regular chlorox, use Chlorox too.

And I thought it's kind of like, cocaine in the White House, what'll you do? I mean, that headline the other day, do you need? Yeah. This is going to be in the history books. They're going to call it Biden Flakes. It's going to be in the history books. Cocaine in the White House. There was a level, like when the level of corruption with Caligula or Nero or, like, how bad does it get?

I mean, Coke in the White House. It's pretty bad, but I will say there's also a bowling alley in the White House. Oh, now that you mention it. So Jordan Peterson podcast was pretty amazing. It gets better as it goes along once I cool down. We were talking, a friend and I were talking about it. Your description of the fish stream was maybe the best. we've heard. So we thought that was particularly

the buildup to it. Jordan Peterson insisted that I tell the story of my conversion and the dream that the vision that God gave me in 1988. And so I did. And he's a youngian psychologist. He's a youngian and he said, so

you got quite the archetypal blast. But there's a lot, there's a lot. Basically people who know me know that I like tease people. That's my love language to tease people. So I was teasing Jordan Peterson Not that much, but a little bit and got him to laugh a few times. And I feel like I hit like a grand slant home run to be able to get him to laugh because he is seriousness. Like, you know, but anyway, if you haven't seen it, see it.

So there's 90 minutes that's still on YouTube. But then Daily Wire, we did an extra 30 minutes. And that's only available on Daily Wire. So there you go. But it was 500,000 times as of now. and I'm having dinner with him tonight. And I guess maybe we'll talk about that tomorrow. Yeah.

We talk about that tomorrow. Do you want to tell everybody where the dinner's? No. Okay. Okay. Are you kidding? Are you kidding? Okay.

No. But I ask people to pray for the dinner tonight because I take Jordan really seriously. He's a wonderful hero. And it's a wonderful man. Some other folks that people. With some other people that I can't share right now, Joanne Worley. I'll just say Joanne Worley and I'll leave it at that. But anyway, that's okay, so I want to mention before we go to General Flynn

that on Friday I'm sailing across the Atlantic Ocean on a ship. And that's exactly correct. And I'm sailing on Friday. So I want to talk more about that tomorrow, that we're taking a special anniversary trip. We've held this off for many years. It's been delayed and now it's happening. And before we go to,

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Yeah, the other day I interviewed Jared Lamaster, and we found out he has this little non-fony role. Yeah. It's kind of bizarre. But anyway, it's called nefarious. Salem now.com. Salem now.com. We're going to be also talking about the sound of freedom. If you haven't seen that, you need to see the sound of freedom.

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General Flynn? I said, yeah, General Flynn. They're doing a reboot of Miami Vice, and he's starring in that. And he's on the set of Miami Vice right now. General Flynn, welcome. That's right. Hey, Eric, how you doing? And again, it's great to be back on your show and speaking to your wonderful audience.

I got to tell you, you know, you're in the position. You're one of those people who give a lot of us out here a lot of hope. So we love you. We respect you. And we're just grateful to God for you doing what you're doing. So I want to talk to you about anything and everything that's going on right now. It's hard to know where to start, frankly. So let me just ask you what's on the top of your mind with where we are in the nation.

Yeah, well, I think that, you know, first of all, again, it is a wonderful opportunity to speak with you, Eric, and your great audience. I think the first thing that comes to my mind this morning, after spending the last four days, thinking about the founding of our country, you know, especially yesterday and really reflecting on why we are the way we are and who we are as a nation. I think the sobering reality is that evil exists and it exists all around us. And I think that people need to understand that, well, they need to understand that, that evil exists. And there are competing ideologies that we are that are always opposing forces. And those competing ideologies today really have to do with this idea of globalism. You know, it's more than just communism and socialism and fascism and

imperialism and all the isms, right? All the ideological factors that exist out there. It's really about, you know, freedom, and that's really who we are as a nation. And we're the last bastion of freedom on the planet right now. That's very clear. There is no doubt about that versus this idea of global, you know, the sort of the globalists that are out there, this small group, and I say small, it's, you know, there's a fair number of them at an elite level, but this small group of elite globalists who absolutely and firmly believe in their, their convictions for the way that they want to take this world, Eric, are very real.

You know, and, you know, it's the World Economic Forum, and there's other aspects of that. But that, this is a very real period of history where, frankly, the world is competing, the freedom-loving world, which we are the pointing end of that spear, the United States of America is the pointing end of that spear, and have been for, whatever, almost 250 years now.

But we are competing against this group of people that wants to, and I'm not going to, you know, mince words, they want to enslave society, and they want to enslave societies, plural. So, you know, there was a time, I don't know, probably back in the early 60s where, where, you know, where there was a Russia and China split, okay? And the split occurred because China went in a direction that was sort of what they called communism with Chinese characteristics.

And Russia was still the dominant Chinese or the dominant communist ideology, the dominant communist, you know, nation on the planet. Well, now I hear people talking about America being essentially a communist or socialist state with American characteristics. I mean, there are people in our government that are talking like this. Well, yeah. To be clear, to kind of clarify. I mean, and you're doing a great job of that.

But we've never faced anything like this, ladies and gentlemen, in the history of the world. This is not the American Founders' Vision versus George III. This is the American Founders' vision against a variety of globalist forces. We're talking about the communist Chinese in bed with George Soros and Klaus Schwab, and elites all around the world who are at war with the idea of freedom as given to us by the founders 247 years ago. So this is an existential crisis, General Flynn. This is like a war where if we don't win this war, it's game over.

And that's why it's so good to have you on because you're one of the few people who understands us. We've got a lot of just buffoon rhino moderates who are happy to play patty cake with the devil. They don't care. Either they don't get it or they have sold their souls. And so you and a handful of people really get it. Well, I actually, you know, so I'm glad you use that phrase, sold their soul. I mean, there's an awful lot of people in our federal government and elected officials and way down. So now what we've learned, Eric, is from.

the top level of our federal government, not just Joe Biden in the White House, but Republicans that are in Congress and principally in the Senate and in the House of Representatives, but it permeates all the way down into our culture. So, you know, when we talk about the idea of intellectual, physical, emotional, and definitely spiritual, those sort of components of warfare, And there's also this other one, you know, I would just call it a cultural war. And this idea of, you know, having a, this, the past month of, uh, of transgender pride month, right? I mean, we're just having it, having this, this culture that is so, it's so indifferent to what we are and who we are as Americans. It is a war.

I'm going to stop you there. We're going to go a break. It's a war on reality. And it's a rage against God. We'll be right back talking to. General Flynn. Folks, welcome back talking to General Flynn. General Flynn, you were just talking about, you know, you're framing this for us.

And I think one of the beautiful things is that evil has so overreached. The authoritarian's have so overreached. They've been triggered by Trump, triggered by all kinds of stuff. So in a sense, they have exposed themselves. They've come out of the bushes and we can see them in a way we've never seen them before. Because you know and I know they've always been there. There's no more evil in the world today than there was 20 years ago. It's just that now it's out in the open.

Now patriots and freedom lovers are realizing I need to go to war with this. I need to do my part because we are losing our nation. Children's lives are being destroyed. But this has not been out in the open until recently. Yeah. And I think that what's real. And when we look back at like the 2020 election, and, you know, where we are and sort of who's in charge of the country, you know, all that.

What, what evil, a weakness in evil, okay, a weakness in evil is arrogance. You know, it's like the, people can go look up the seven deadly sins, right? I mean, pride, right, as a, as a deadly sin, right? But the weakness of evil is arrogance. And one of the things that, as you just really articulated so well, is this idea of exposure. So the evil that we are presented with, and that is presenting itself to us now, is it's so overwhelming, and they have had to expose themselves in such just incredible ways. And this level of arrogance that we see where it's like, you're just going to accept this because we say so. And now in the, I call it inside of the American DNA, inside of the DNA of every single American that is really, you know, when we think,

about what is an American, right? And we just were reminded over these last four days of Independence Day weekend, we were just reminded, you know, again, about who we are. We're a constitutional republic. We were founded by some really brave people, men and women. And they stood up when they knew that they were up against the wall. They knew at that time they were up against something that was so powerful, so strong. And at the time, they said, we've got to do this. So So now America, now folks, now audience, we are now standing up in another period of history, totally unprecedented, totally unprecedented. And it is now a place where we're looking at our own government has been occupied,

it's been occupied by a bunch of people, for the most part, that are owned by others. And when I say owned by others, that means that they are deep, you know, they have, you know, deep in their pockets, hands that are, that are down in into their pants or their jackets, and they are given things that they have accepted. And what that has done is that has changed them from being what they're supposed to be, which is driving home the idea of law,

driving home the idea of justice, driving home the idea of standing up for courage and standing up for accountability. And we have not had, we have not been in a place like this, Eric. So now what is happening, and to put it into a more positive light, The American people are now standing up and saying, enough is enough. We have had enough of this, and we are not going to allow the country to continue to go down this path.

But I do believe, and looking at it from sort of a faith-based perspective, I do believe that it's like God has said to us, I'm going to put you through this. I'm going to put you through this ugly process where you're going to just, you're going to, you know, and you're going to see who actually stands up, who actually comes to your aid, right? And I think that it's like something that I learned in the years going through all the persecution that I went through. Friends that you never knew existed show up to your side

and are ready to go to war with you, where people that you knew who you thought were your friends, they're nowhere to be seen. And you really understand it's not just loyalty to a fault. It's actually people who understand, stand and have a and have a have a passion, have compassion for what it is that you're going through. Well, now America, we're going through this. And you're going to find, you're going to find which political leaders are ready to stand up and fight for our country because they're

elected. You're going to find local leaders in your churches, in your schools, in your communities, who are going to stand up and they're going to be fighting for us at the local level. I use this phrase local action has a national impact. So we are now in a place where we, the people now have to get better organized. And one of the things that I do see is I see a lot of these grassroots movements, and I've been all over the country now, you know, blessed to have going all over the country and talk to large groups of these people, leaders, these are leaders. And a lot of them are women. I mean, there's a lot of women out there who are taking responsibility, not just for their children, but they're taking responsibility for their communities. And in some cases,

taking responsibilities for their entire state. And they're not politically connected. They're not wealthy. They are just people who are saying enough is enough. So as an American, as I stand here today and I talk to you, I actually see light at the end of the valley of the shadow of death, right? Psalm 23, because that's kind of where America is at. And what they want us to do, what the globalist elite crowd want us to do is, they want us to come to the end of that valley and fall into the trap that they have sprung for us, right? But we can see the trap now.

It's like an ambush. You know that you're walking into an ambush. Well, I know, and I'm telling people, we're walking into an ambush, and we've been talking about this for a long time. And so people now know we're walking into an ambush. So when you see that exit, make sure that it's the exit that is based on,

your God-given common sense, the values and the principles that this country was founded upon, and some level of accountability. That's all America wants. People want accountability. And people are willing to accept those people who come forward and say, you know what, I've screwed up, forgive me, people will forgive. But we don't forget. We do not forget. And so now we're going into a place here. We have about another year plus, right? We've got, let's say, let's say 16 months or so to where we walk into another very important light. And that light is 2024 election. And I'm not going to stand here and tell you today that, I mean, is there a scenario where it doesn't even happen?

You're damn right. There's a scenario where it doesn't even happen. That's a discussion for another day. Okay, no, I want to ask you about that. I want to ask you what lies ahead. I want to ask you about your thoughts on President Trump. Ladies and gentlemen, we're just privileged to have our friend, General Flynn, as my guest. We'll be right back.

I'm talking to General Flynn. General Flynn, you know, you're talking about what lies ahead. We've never been through anything like this. A lot of patriots have been activated because of the evil that has become so obvious. And a lot of people are getting activated. the worst things get, the more we hear about the election, about this White House, about vaccine stuff that was suppressed, about social media giants, crushing freedom, crushing freedom of speech, more people are waking up every single day.

What are your thoughts on President Trump going forward? It's my personal conviction that because he was robbed of the previous election, that he needs to be able to do what he could do now, that he didn't understand in his first term because it was impossible. I mean, I literally sat next to you the morning of the inauguration in that church across from the White House.

And I remember just thinking how happy I was that this nation was in the hands of patriots. But at that time, you, President Trump and many others did not know what the deep state had been planning, and the traps that they had laid. The point is, now you know. Now he knows. Now we know.

So what do you see going forward? So number one, prior to the election and the election itself, this is 2024 now. I'm going to start using the phrase guarding the vote, guarding the vote. So as a, you know, as a military guy, as a warrior, as a general, you have to plan. And you have to put together and pull together all the resources that you have. And we're doing that. We're doing that across the country. I was just recently with President Trump probably about two and a half weeks ago.

And we talked about this idea about guarding the vote because it's a really important aspect of what we need to do because we own the vote. The American people own the entire voting system, even though we've been told, you know, you don't. We've been actually told by different elements of our own government to include the judiciary. You don't own the vote. This is something that is over here. But in fact, everything that we do with our vote belongs to us. It's a taxpayer-funded system. It's an incredible privilege and honor that we have to vote.

So we're going to have to guard the vote. And guarding the vote means everybody weighing in and standing together from the moment you're, whatever state you're in, because each state has its own, you know, places to be. like ballot harvesting and mailing votes and day of voting and all that. But we're going to have to just, we're going to have to be guarding the vote. Now, so that's a very, very important phrase, guarding the vote because it means keeping an eye on every single aspect of the vote that we have from the moment it starts, whether it's 45 days or 30 days prior to the vote, all the way through the county.

The second thing is let's assume victory. Okay, I'm going to assume victory. We get back into office, you know, President Trump wins again and gets back into office. He is going to have to continue to do the things that he did economically and from a foreign policy standpoint because they were wonderful. He had incredible successes economically and certainly foreign policy. I mean, no first president in my lifetime, they never started a war. But I think that the other component of this is we are going to have to have severe. and I use that word not lightly.

We're going to have to have severe government reform, severe government reform, and that means going inside of these organizations and basically, you know, like, you know, in some cases just ripping whole cloth out in other cases, completely changing what their structure, their mission. Oh, no, this is so huge.

We're going to go to a break. We're going to carry over with General Flynn. This is huge. We got to open. this up when we come back. We'll be right back with General Flynn.