The Eric Metaxas Show - Gen. Michael Flynn (Encore)

Episode Date: July 21, 2023

Gen. Michael Flynn returns to the show with an assessment on the threats and opportunities facing our nation.

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So while I'm on vacation, I'm happy to introduce the following program. So joining me now is my good friend and former client, Pastor John McArthur of Grace Community Church. And so Pastor John, this, film, The Essential Church is going to be in theater starting July 28th. And what has this project overall meant to you? Well, it's been an all-absorbing effort for the last really a year and a half. When we came out of the pandemic and we won the case, I felt like we

needed to give testimony to the Lord's faithfulness in protecting us. And I didn't want to wait 25 years until somebody wrote a book about the case. I said, well, this thing is still hot and everybody's still aware of all of the elements of it. We need to tell this story so that when the next wave of hostility comes against the church, people are going to be prepared and they're going to see that you can take a stand and God will honor that. So this is really our testimony to the Lord's faithfulness that we wanted to get out there so people can be strengthened by it and be ready for whatever's coming down the road. And, you know, we knew we had guys that had a lot of experience in media,

but I had no idea that they were as good as they were because we'd never done a documentary before. So it exceeded all my expectations. And I think the Lord is going to use it to give courage to Christian leaders in the future. Yes, I really think so too. And I've had the opportunity to see this production. And you're right, it is incredible. and it's such a clear presentation of the gospel.

And also the churches stand, not just in this moment from the 2020 shutdowns and moving forward, but why it's so important that we understand the church's position as Christ being the head of the church throughout world history and church history. And so that historical element in putting this in context, I think was really important as well. And what do you hope that the Christian and especially pastors take away from that message. Well, you know, Jesus said in the sermon on the Mount,

Blessed are you when men persecute you and say all in a manner of evil against you for my sake. So that's a pronounced blessing. You know, we know the part about blessed are the meek and blessed are the poor in spirit and all of that. But blessed are the persecuted, that's a promise of blessing in persecution for those who are faithful to the Lord. And so we want.

this film to infuse some fresh sense of the continuity of the persecuted church through history. As important as our little piece was in our day, we wanted to be much bigger than that. So we picked a time in the 1600s back in Scotland when the church was fighting for Christ's headship against the King of England. And it's a dramatic period of church history. But it illustrates this is not a new battle. I mean, I could say it this way. The headship of Christ over his church, that doctrine has come down to us on a sea of blood.

That has cost lives throughout all of church history. It may cost lives again, but Christ is the head of the church. And when he is honored and glorified the gospel is glorified. as well. Yes. And one of the pieces now looking back at the phenomenal and amazing victory, really that it was for Grace Community Church to prevail in this lawsuit when it was at the very beginning. I mean, me and my colleagues who represented you in the church were saying the precedent right now is so against us, but we are going to take the stand for the church. We're going to go on the offensive. And what I think a lot of people are missing from looking now backwards is how

resolute you and the elder board really were to take that scene when you thought it was more likely than not that you wouldn't prevail. And I remember you saying that you were willing to go to jail and saying, well, then I'll have a jail ministry. And that wasn't a remark that was, well, that's a possibility. And it's it's kind of a laugh off thing. It is. It was something that was a very real threat and a very real possibility. And so what do you hope that people understand about the moment of the decision to take a stand? Well, I think you have to understand this. You can't predict what the future is going to bring.

But you can have convictions that don't change. The future changes, things come, things go. I don't know specifically what the government may or may not do in the future to the church, but it really doesn't matter if my convictions are biblical. And that's the thing that anchored me. It didn't matter whether they said, we're going to take away your parking lot, or we're going to force you to shut down, or we're going to make you wear masks, or we're going to do this, or we're going to put you in jail, or we're going to find you. It didn't matter what that was. The only thing that matter to me was, on what biblical basis do I take a stand?

and whatever comes, can't alter that that. So that was the fixed point that I was at. And I remember you telling me that you had a conversation with the attorneys and they thought we had 1% chance to win the case. One percent. And they were fighting for us.

I mean, they kept coming back to me in all honesty and saying, well, would you concede this? Would you allow this? Would you give, would you do mask? Would you do distancing? Would you just do something that we can give to the city? And I said, no, because that's not the issue.

The issue is that the government has no authority in the church in anything. So it was the basis. It was Christ as the head of the church that was the basis of everything. That doctrine interpreted for me anything and everything that came. And I remember having those conversations with you and every, single point in the case, whether it was good news or not so good news and moving forward, God was with us every step of the way. And your consistent response to me was, well, Jenna, here's the next step. And what would the Lord have us do next? And that testimony to me

showed really, truly how much you understood that principle and you were willing to move forward in faith on the promises of God and on what he requires of you and the church. And I'm speaking with Pastor John MacArthur of Grace Community Church and in the midst of this really incredible documentary, the essential church that will be in theaters across the country, July 28th. And Pastor John, one of the pieces that that was new to me was some of those deliberations of the elder board and how some of the leadership really had to determine in their own mind that same doctrine. of what do we understand is the role of the church, what is the role of the government? And has that whole experience for you in any way either changed or clarified your doctrine or your view on Christians' engagement in government and politics? Well, yeah, and I think that's inevitable.

I mean, that's just something that's bound to do that. But I would say just looking at the big picture, we were, in this nation right now, I think we have come to the conclusion that you can't believe your leaders. It doesn't matter what they say or who they are. There's just, there's no really compelling reason

to assume the integrity and fidelity of anybody in leadership. It doesn't matter what position they're in. Because the culture is dominated by lies. But I think that's, that sort of reached that, point in the last two or three years. I think when the COVID thing first hit, we still had some confidence in people. And if there were any guys that we tended to trust and gals,

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leadership. And you have Dr. Scott Atlas in the film as well that was talking about his own experience on the coronavirus task force. And then all of this attempt by the government, now there's the Missouri versus Biden case, you know, three years later, talking about the government's intentional attempt to censor a discussion and the truth about the whole COVID narrative. And that is such a fascinating element of this documentary as well to see how. the truth was not only obfuscated, manipulated, but completely shielded at some points so that churches like you and pastors like you couldn't make decisions based on just that information, but really had to go and analyze what you could discern for yourselves. And so what was that process like?

I think, I mean, that was exactly the challenge. So where do we get the data that we really need? because the stuff they're saying is not true. By the way, Scott Atlas has a great line in the film. He says he was on the task force and he said it was marked by total incompetence. I mean, at that high level in, you know, gathering this group of people supposed to save everybody's lives, there was incompetence. But so it was not just deception. It was a combination of incompetence and deception.

But what I had to do was find some legitimate sources. And I was able to find them through a friend of mine who was a very, very well-trained and a long-term guy in the medical world who knew where the real story was. And so he fed me data that was legitimate data. And then it began to surface as well in more public ways. So I was being fed this from a very close friend in the medical field who was saying they're not telling the truth. This is not reality. And so I was, I was warned by that. And then when it became apparent that he was given me things that were starting to show up, that's when the transition began from saying,

we need to be careful to this is not what it is being sold to be. And there were a lot of pastors, Pastor John, that in the immediate sense when Grace Church put out their statement, Christ is the head of the church, not Caesar, that you got a lot of pushback as, you know, someone who was rebellious or someone who is being arrogant or, you know, any of these other motivations that really didn't describe what was going on. And I think that this documentary really shows not only the struggle, but also the doctrine. that is true for all decisions throughout the ages. Have you had pastors now who were concerned about Grace Church's stand then come back after this phenomenal win? And also, as some pastors

have started pre-screening this film and come back to you and either in an apology or with a new sense of understanding and saying, now I get it. Yeah, I don't, I'm still waiting for for the group to show up because some of them were really vocal. There were articles written on why is MacArthur doing this? They were saying, I mean, this is the basic argument that

why are you wasting your ammunition? Why are you going to fight the government on this issue? Why don't you wait until it's homosexuality or something else, something more significant? You shouldn't be fighting this battle. This is about a virus

and blah, blah, blah. So, but my response was this. We fight every battle. Any attack on the church, doesn't matter what it is. We're not looking at the attacks on the church and saying, okay, this is only a two, so we'll ignore it. We'll wait for a seven or an eight on the scale comes along. Now, any assault is an assault that we have to defend the church. But I think it was, it was really that we began to understand that they were not telling us the true story.

and we got our elders to understand that. And we also came to the conclusion with the Christ, the head of the church document that we did, that even if it was the plague, we were going to open, that we would do what churches did during the black death in Europe or the bubonic plague or other plagues in history.

The church stayed open and pastors cared for sick and dying people. I mean, that's part of our calling in the world. The church becomes even more critical, you know, when death looms in some epic form over a society. I mean, that would be true in any situation. So we're not going to protect ourselves. So we're going to leave it to the Lord, and we're going to do what we do. And I think what turned out to be true from a scientific standpoint is we didn't follow any of the guidelines at all. So we shared all of our diseases.

We just, we all had robust immune systems because we were together with everybody all the time, hugging and shaking hands and fellowshiping and being together. And I think that, that protected Grace Church to such a degree that the health department in Los Angeles had to post on their website that there was no outbreak of COVID at Grace Community Church. They were trying to shut us down because they, They assumed that would happen. It never happened. And I think it's because from the standpoint of physiology,

our immune systems were just robust. I remember we opened for children, and we had a thousand children show up the first Sunday we did that. And we never had any issue with ill children. It was an amazing thing. And I love what you said, Pastor John, that this would be true to take the stand and to have church open and be the church to a lost and broken society and also to the people

who are members to be the ministers of the gospel, regardless of what scale was actually true about the COVID virus. And that's such an important point. And also the point of this doctrine being true that Christ is the head of the church, not Caesar, throughout human history. And here in America, we are so blessed that we have a U.S. Constitution that protects exactly that because one of the other contrast in the film is how Canadian pastors were actually jailed because they didn't have the same protections as the Constitution provides. And I remember in our very first conversation about the legal aspect with this whole notion of, well, are we being rebellious? And my response to you was, well, Gavin Newsom and L.A. County, they're actually the ones that are rebelling against the first

Amendment, they are not in line with our Supreme Law. And it is such a great reminder of why we as Americans have to continue to protect our rule of law. And this case, to me, from a legal standpoint, really solidified that

as well. And even though we didn't go all the way to the Supreme Court, and there's even a line from my colleague Jeff Tristle, who was one of the attorneys as well, that he said, you know, so it may have seemed like, you know, we didn't get like this, you know, nine to zero victory at the Supreme Court. but this was the most important case because we won such an essential victory for the church

with a permanent injunction against L.A. County. And so in just the last couple of minutes I have with you, what has that part of it meant in terms of that victory? And at the very end of the film as well, they showed the plaque or the small monument that Grace Community Church built there in honor to the Lord for his protection and his divine providence. And that reminds you, me of what Old Testament Israel did that said, you know, build a monument to the Lord to thank him for what he has done. We were deeply, deeply thankful to the Lord to the Lord for bringing you along because your zeal for the First Amendment was what fired us up to take the stand we did and to sue the state or the city or the county. That's a pretty heady thing for a church to do.

And then to realize that Gavin Newsom lost the case, we could say. And I think in all total it cost them about $3 million. It was amazing. They didn't want to lose it, not so much for the financial part. They didn't want to lose because of the embarrassment of it. And then to get a permanent injunction that they can never do it again was just more than we could have ever hoped for. And it showed the strength of the First Amendment.

That's what came through in that case, the strength of the First Amendment. So I think Christians have to understand that that's a providence of God. That's a divine providence to give us that, and we need to use that. In fact, in the film, I say that in a message from 1975, that if we ever get attacked by the government, we're going to use our constitutional protections. So, you know, we have to use the tools that the Lord gave to us. So that's the strength of the First Amendment and reason that we need to be very, very careful not to let future politicians take that away. Absolutely.

And the film is the essential church and will be in theaters July 28th. And I'm looking forward to joining you in L.A. soon for the premiere. And Pastor John McArthur, thank you for your ministry. and I just love and respect you so much. Well, thank you, Jenna. And I would just say one thing in part of this nation needs strong men. And it needs to start in the church. Amen to that.

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Hey there, folks. Welcome. This morning I got a haircut. And I said to my barber, hey, guess who I'm going to interview today? General Flynn, my barber was freaked out. General Flynn? I said, yeah, General Flynn. They're doing a reboot of Miami Vice, and he's starring in that,

and he's on the set of Miami Vice right now. General Flynn, welcome. That's right. Hey, Eric, how you doing? And again, it's great to be back on your show and speaking to your wonderful audience. I got to tell you, you know, you're in the position, you're one of those people who give a lot of us out here a lot of hope.

So we love you, we respect you, and we're just grateful to God for you doing what you're doing. So I want to talk to you about anything and everything that's going on right now. It's hard to know where to start, frankly. So let me just ask you, what's on the top of your mind with where we are in the nation? Yeah, well, I think that, you know, first of all, again, it is a wonderful opportunity to speak with you, Eric, and your great audience. I think the first thing that comes to my mind this morning, after spending the last four days thinking about the founding of our country, especially yesterday and really reflecting on why we are the way we are and who we are as a nation, I think the sobering reality is that evil exists and it exists all around us.

And I think that people need to understand that, well, they need to understand that, that evil exists. And there are competing ideologies that we are always opposing forces. And those competing ideologies today really have to do with this idea of globalism. You know, it's more than just communism and socialism and fascism and imperialism and all the isms, right? All the ideological factors that exist out there. It's really about, you know, freedom, and that's really who we are as a nation. And we're the last bastion of freedom on the planet right now. That's very clear.

There is no doubt about that versus this idea of global, you know, the sort of the globalists that are out there, This small group, and I say small, there's a fair number of them at an elite level, but this small group of elite globalists who absolutely and firmly believe, and their convictions for the way that they want to take this world, Eric, are very real. And, you know, it's the World Economic Forum, and there's other aspects of that. But that, this is a very real period of history where, where, frankly, the world is competing, the freedom-loving world, which we are the pointing end of that spear. The United States of America is the pointy end of that spear and have been for whatever, almost 250 years now. But we are competing against this group of people that wants to, and I'm not going to, you know, mince words.

they want to enslave society, and they want to enslave societies, plural. So, you know, there was a time, I don't know, probably back in the early 60s where, where, you know, where there was a Russia and China split, okay? And the split occurred because China went in a direction that was sort of what they called communism with Chinese characteristics, okay? and Russia was still the dominant Chinese or the dominant communist ideology, the dominant communist nation on the planet. Well, now I hear people talking about America being essentially a communist or socialist

state with American characteristics. I mean, there are people in our government that are talking like this. Well, yeah, to be clear, to kind of clarify, and you're doing a great job of that. But we've never faced anything like this, ladies and gentlemen, in the history of the world. This is not the American Founders' vision versus George III. This is the American Founders' vision against a variety of globalist forces. We're talking about the communist Chinese in bed with George Soros and Klaus Schwab and elites all around the world who are at war. with the idea of freedom as given to us by the founders 247 years ago.

So this is an existential crisis, General Flynn. This is like a war where if we don't win this war, it's game over. And that's why it's so good to have you on because you're one of the few people who understands us. We've got a lot of just buffoon, rhino moderates who are happy to play Patty. with the devil. They don't care. Either they don't get it or they have sold their souls. And so you and a handful of people really

get it. Well, I actually, you know, so I'm glad you use that phrase, sold their soul. I mean, there's an awful lot of people in our federal government and elected officials and way down. So now what we've learned, Eric, is from the

top level of our federal government, not just, you know, Joe Biden in the White House, but Republicans that are in Congress and principally in the Senate and in the House of Representatives. But it permeates all the way down into our culture. So, you know, when we talk about the idea of intellectual, physical, emotional, and definitely spiritual, those sort of components of warfare, and there's also this other one, you know, I would just call it a cultural war.

And this idea of, you know, having the past month of, of transgender pride month, right? I mean, where we're just having it, having this culture that is so, it's so indifferent to what we are and who we are as Americans. It is a war. I'm going to stop you there. We're going to go a break.

It's a war on reality, and it's a rage against God. We'll be right back talking to General Flynn. Folks, welcome back talking to General Flynn. General Flynn, you were just talking about, you know, you're framing this for us. And I think one of the beautiful things is that evil has so overreached. The authoritarian have so overreached.

They've been triggered by Trump, triggered by all kinds of stuff. So in a sense, they have exposed themselves. They've come out of the bushes and we can see them in a way we've never seen them before. Because you know and I know they've always been there. There's no more evil in the world today than there was 20 years ago. It's just that now it's out in the open. And now patriots and freedom lovers are realizing I need to go to war with this. I need to do my part because we are losing our nation.

Children's lives are being destroyed. But this has not been out in the open until recently. Yeah. And I think that what is what's real. And when we look back at like the 2020 election and where we are and sort of who's in charge of the country, you know, all that. what evil a weakness in evil okay a weakness in evil is arrogance you know it's like the you can people can go look up the seven deadly sins right i mean pride right as a as a deadly sin right but the weakness of evil is arrogance and one of the things that as you just really articulated so well is this idea of exposure so the

the evil that we are presented with and that is presenting itself to us now is it It's so overwhelming and they have had to expose themselves in such just incredible ways. And this level of arrogance that we see where it's like you're just going to accept this because we say so. And now in the, I call it inside of the American DNA, inside of the DNA of every single American that is really, you know, when we think about what is an American, right? And we just were reminded over these last four days of Independence Day weekend, we were just reminded, you know, again, about who we are. We're a constitutional republic. We were founded

by some really brave people, men and women, and they stood up when they were, when they knew that they were up against the wall. They knew at that time they were up against something that was so powerful, so strong. And at the time, they said, we've got to do this. So now America, now folks, now audience, we are, we are now standing up in another period of history. totally unprecedented, totally unprecedented. And it is now a place where we're looking at our own government has been occupied, it's been occupied by a bunch of people, for the most part, that are owned by others. And when I say owned by others, that means that they are deep, you know,

they have, you know, deep in their pockets, hands that are down into their pants or their, or their jackets, and they are given things that they have accepted. And what that has done is that has changed them from being what they're supposed to be, which is driving home the idea of law, driving home the idea of justice, driving home the idea of standing up for courage and standing up for accountability. And we have not had, we have not been in a place like this, Eric. So now what is happening, and to put it into a more positive light, the American people are now standing up.

and saying enough is enough. We have had enough of this, and we are not going to allow the country to continue to go down this path. But I do believe, and looking at it from sort of a faith-based perspective, I do believe that it's like God has said to us, I'm going to put you through this.

I'm going to put you through this ugly process where you're going to just, you're going to, you know, you're going to see who actually stands up, who actually comes to your aid, right? And I think that it's like something that I learned in the years going through all the persecution that I went through. Friends that you never knew existed show up to your side and are ready to go to war with you, where people that you knew who you thought were your friends, they're nowhere to be seen.

And you really understand it's not just loyalty to a fault. It's actually people who understand and have a passion, have a passion for what it is that you're going through. Well, now America, we're going through this. And you're going to find, you're going to find which political leaders are ready to stand up and fight for our country because they're elected. You're going to find local leaders in your churches, in your schools, in your communities, who are going to stand up and they're going to be fighting for us at the local level. I use this phrase, local action has a national impact.

So we are now in a place where we, the people now have to get better organized. And one of the things that I do see is I see a lot of these grassroots movements, and I've been all over the country now, you know, blessed to have going all over the country and talk to large groups of these people, leaders, these are leaders. And a lot of them are women. I mean, there's a lot of women out there who are taking responsibility, not just for their children, but they're taking responsibility for their communities. and in some cases, taking responsibilities for their entire state.

And they're not politically connected. They're not wealthy. They are just people who are saying enough is enough. So as an American, as I stand here today and I talk to you, I actually see light at the end of the valley of the shadow of death, right? Psalm 23, because that's kind of where America is at. And what they want us to do, what the globalist elite crowd, us to do is they want us to come to the end of that valley and fall into the trap that they have

sprung for us, right? But we can see the trap now. It's like an ambush. You know that you're walking into an ambush. Well, I know, and I'm telling people, we're walking into an ambush. We've been talking about this for a long time. And so people now know we're walking into an ambush. So when you see that exit, make sure that it's the exit that is based on your God-given common sense, the values and the principles that this country was founded upon, and some level of accountability. That's all America wants. People want accountability. And people are willing to accept those people who come forward and say, you know what, I've screwed up, forgive me. People will forgive. But we don't forget. We do not forget. And so now we're going to,

now we're going into a place here. We have about another year plus, right? We've got, let's say, let's say 16 months or so to where we walk into another very important light and that light is 2024 election and I'm not going to stand here and tell you today that that I mean

is there a scenario where it doesn't even happen? You're damn right there's a scenario where it doesn't even happen. That's a discussion for another day. Okay, no, I want to ask you about that. I want to ask you what lies ahead. I want to ask you about your thoughts on President Trump.

Ladies and gentlemen, we're just privileged to have our friend, General Flynn, as my guest. We'll be right back. Mr. Milk Toast, you'll get shut out. I'm talking to General Flynn. General Flynn, you know, you're talking about what lies ahead. We've never been through anything like this. A lot of patriots have been activated because of the evil that has become so obvious. And a lot of people are getting activated.

the worst things get, the more we hear about the election, about this White House, about vaccine stuff that was suppressed, about social media giants, crushing freedom, crushing freedom of speech. More people are waking up every single day. What are your thoughts on President Trump going forward? It's my personal conviction that because he was robbed of the previous election, that he needs to be. be able to do what he could do now that he didn't understand in his first term because it was impossible. I mean, I literally sat next to you the morning of the inauguration in that church across from the White House. And I remember just thinking how happy I was that this nation was in the hands of patriots. But at that time, you and President Trump and many others did not know what the deep state had been planning and the traps that they had laid. The point is, now you know, now he knows, now we know.

So what do you see going forward? So number one, prior to the election and the election itself is 2024 now, I'm going to start using the phrase guarding the vote, guarding the vote. So as a, you know, as a military guy, as a war, as a general, you have to plan and you have to put together and pull together all the resources that you have. And we're doing that. We're doing that across the country. I was just recently with President Trump probably about two and a half weeks ago. And we talked about this idea about guarding the vote because it's a really important aspect of what we need to do because we

own the vote, right? The American people own the entire voting system, even though we've been told, you know, you don't. We've been actually told by different elements of our own government to include the judiciary. You don't own the vote. This is something that is over here, but in fact, everything that we do with our vote belongs to us. It's a taxpayer-funded system. It's our, it's an incredible privilege and honor that we have to vote. So we're going to have to guard the vote. And guarding the vote means everybody weighing in and standing together from the moment, whatever state you're in, because each state has its own, you know, places to be like ballot harvesting and mailing votes and day of voting and all that. But you're, we're going to have to

just, we're going to have to be guarding the vote. Now, so that's a, that's a very, very important phrase guarding the vote because it means keeping an eye on every single aspect of the vote that we have from the moment it starts, whether it's 45 days or 30 days prior to the vote, all the way through the county. The second thing is, let's assume victory. I'm going to assume victory. We get back into office. You know, President Trump wins again and gets back into office. He is going to have to continue to do the things that he did economically

and from a foreign policy standpoint because they were wonderful. He had incredible successes economically and certainly foreign policy. I mean, no first president in my lifetime, they never started a war. But I think that the other component of this is we are going to have to have severe. and I use that word not likely. We're going to have to have severe government reform, severe government reform, and that means going inside of these organizations

and basically, you know, like, you know, in some cases, just ripping whole cloth out, in other cases, completely changing what their, what their structure, their mission. Oh, no, this is so huge. We're going to go to a break.

We're going to carry over with General Flynn. This is huge. We got to open. this up when we come back. We'll be right back with General Flynn.