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I'm the announcer and I've known Eric since he was a big nobody.
In fact, I'm one of the people he stepped on as he climbed the ladder of success.
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I'm going to be speaking to Kirk Cameron in a second.
But Albin and I want to remind you before we talk, you know,
to the Hollywood megastar, Kirk Cameron, that we have something important to say, too.
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Like in Rambo First Blood?
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Welcome, Kirk.
Hey, you know, I think we need to do it is you need to save Albin's beard hair.
And then you need to like raffle that off as another prize.
You know what? We're going to mail that. We want to mail Albin's facial hair to you,
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It's got to give 10,000, though. It's been in his family for generations, and now we want it
to be part of your family. Kirk Cameron, we've got some important stuff to talk about my friend.
First of all, how you doing? I love to see you. I'm doing great. Thank you. I'm out here in
California. An interesting place to live these days, as I know New York is too, but we're excited
for this weekend. It's horrifying to think that there's feces on the sidewalk of the great state of
California and that Nancy Pelosi and Newsom, they're not doing anything about it because they live in
their gated non-feces communities. But let's talk about something positive. You, my friend,
have been really involved in the battle for religious liberty. Talk about what is happening,
literally this weekend this Sunday?
Well, we are putting on an event called non-essential.
Obviously, that's a play on words.
Here in the state of California, for those of you who live elsewhere,
listen, we still can't go inside of our churches.
You're not allowed inside of your schools or a gym or even inside restaurants.
And yet you see people riding outside.
You see them burning down buildings, defunding the police.
You're able to go inside big box.
box stores, and you start to realize that the narrative is falling apart about all this safety stuff.
And then you look at the CDC numbers and you find that the curve has been flattened,
and you wonder, why are we all still in this lockdown state like it's a communist state of
California or something? And so a few of us are getting together to say, enough. We are essential.
Our Christian values are essential. Our faith and our families and our votes are essential.
And so Dinesh D'Souza, Charlie Kirk, myself, Sissy Graham, Danny Goose.
and Pastor Jack Hibbs, Rob McCoy, and others,
we're coming together for an incredible evening, Sunday, 8 o'clock Eastern,
to talk about the reality of what's happening in our nation
and then bring solutions to the table that will help us turn our country around.
I love it, I love it.
Now, am I part of the program?
Well, am I part of, like, as an MC or something like that?
Listen, you guys can't afford me.
Let's move on.
Here's the issue.
I want my audience because I think...
Guys with bow ties.
That's it.
I think, first of all, Jack Hibbs is a hero, Rob McCoy's a hero.
There are a lot of folks out there in the churches that are, they're doing the heroic thing.
You know, this is what I talk about in all my bio speeds, especially in Bonhoffer.
I mean, to do the thing that is risky and dangerous.
But when you use the word non-essential, I just want to be really clear, the government in places like California have deemed churches
and religious gatherings
non-essential.
They have said that in Las Vegas,
that in Las Vegas,
the casinos are essential.
The liquor stores are essential.
Pot stores are essential.
Churches are non-essential.
This is the narrative that we have to fight against,
that we have an entire secular leadership culture,
the cultural elites,
especially in places like California,
completely, completely out of touch
with Middle America,
which considers,
gathering to worship utterly essential.
Absolutely. Eric, don't you and I and everyone who's listening on this conversation understand
that faith and morality are the most essential things that exist in our nation?
I mean, you taught me this, this golden triangle of faith, virtue, or morality, and liberty.
And without faith and without virtue, we can't have liberty.
We'll destroy it.
And that's what we see, the loss of liberty because we're losing faith and we're losing morality.
And so assembling in a church is absolutely essential.
And I have friends in Idaho who went outside the church so that they could sing Amazing Grace in four-part harmonies while holding their hymnales outside City Hall and they got arrested.
Okay.
You see, this is what I'm saying.
Like, there are people, when I talk about the Alliance Defending Freedom and all this kind of stuff, I know there are people thinking, oh, it's fear mongering.
Oh, relax.
Folks, Kurt and Cameron is telling you, his friends in Iowa were arrested in Iowa,
not in Manhattan, not in San Francisco, in Iowa.
That's how out of touch our local state and federal officials are when it comes to religious liberty.
I mean, it's like you're making it up.
I mean, you're not making that up.
Yeah, no, I'm not making it up.
It was up in Idaho, and you can look it up, check out Idaho worshippers arrested.
And incidentally, that was just a month or two after other people.
protests were outside of the police office shouting to defund the police and nothing happened to them.
So you realize that the narrative is falling apart. What's going on? That's why we're doing non-essential.
Please go to non-essential. Live to check it out and RSVP get all of the information. It's going to be
incredible. Non-essential. Live. Now there's no hyphen, right? Non-essential.com.
dot live.
And if you go to non-essential.
Dot live, you can participate.
If you can get to Chino Hills, California,
by 5 o'clock Pacific time,
maybe you can actually participate in person.
I wish I could do that.
I'd love to be with you and Jack Hibbs
and everyone you've mentioned.
You know I would.
But if you cannot get to Chino Hills, California, folks,
go to non-essential.
Dot live.
That's the URL.
That's it, right?
That's it.
Nonessential. Live.
Non-essential.
I just want to say that, you know, if people don't fight back, when I hear this kind of stuff,
that the way people are able to, you know, to say defund the police and you're able to protest,
nobody gets arrested, but then when you sing Amazing Grace or something like that,
I mean, we're not making this up.
This is happening.
This shows the absurd bias of our leaders.
And by the way, here's the issue.
If it was like a vanilla versus chocolate bias, you could say, well, that's their point of view.
This is unconstitutional.
That's why we must fight for every American.
This is not about Christians.
This is about right and wrong constitutional versus unconstitutional.
So I want to make that clear, folks, that this is not just about Christians standing up for Christians.
On the other hand, it wouldn't be a bad idea right now since standing up for Christians is to stand up for liberty for all.
That's right.
You will be there in person.
Is that right?
Can people really, if they're in California, they can actually attend this?
if there's room in the building?
Yep, there's going to be 2,500 of us inside of the church,
which, of course, this is going against the governor's edicts.
But we will be there in person.
We hope that we just, the volume of the praise and worship
just blows the roof off of this church,
and we want that to go out to the rest of the nation.
So, yep, we'll be there in person,
all of us together in the same room.
We're taking off the masks of fear,
and shame, and we're speaking to one another in hymns and songs and spiritual songs, singing
and making music in our hearts to the Lord. And that's what we need to be doing more of in this country.
Okay, listen, most people can't get to Chino Hills on Sunday, but ladies and gentlemen,
you can go to nonessential.com. Please go to nonessential. Dot live.
And I will, of course, be preaching at a church in El Paso, Texas.
next weekend I'll be preaching at a church in San Jose, California.
I love it.
I love what you're doing, Kirk, to get the word out.
You're living your faith, my friend.
Thank you very much.
God bless you.
Eric, you're a hero of mine.
God bless you.
Thanks for having me on the program.
Hey, there, folks.
Welcome.
This is the Eric Metaxus show.
When John Zmirak recommends that we have someone on the program,
we drop everything and we grab that person,
and kidnap them if we must to get them on the program.
That's what I think of John Zmirak.
And so today we have George Neumeyer as our guest.
He's a contributing editor to the American Spectator.
He's the author of many books, the political pope,
how Pope Francis is delighting the liberal left
and abandoning conservatives.
His new book, I'm excited to talk to him about,
is called The Biden Deception.
A brand new book, the Biden deception,
moderate opportunist or the Democrats' cryptoscialist.
George Neumeier, welcome the program.
Thank you very much for having me.
You realize that if John Zmirak recommends you, you're like unto a god.
So we're just going to be listening as to a Delphic Oracle here.
But in all seriousness, what has exploded across the news in the last week regarding Biden is so disturbing.
So this is particularly timely.
What is it that led you to write the book, The Biden Deception?
Well, I wanted to debunk the misconception that Biden is a harmless moderate, which the media
has been peddling for quite some time. And, you know, the reality is that Biden has been a,
you know, pretty kind of an opportunist, you know, over his entire career. You know, we're,
the party goes, he follows it. So in the 1990s, when the party was triangulating the Republicans
under Bill Clinton, he sponsored the crime bill and posed as a moderate and a tough law and order
guy. He was even very critical of the war on drugs for not being sufficiently tough. So back
then he was a moderate or presented himself as a moderate because that's where the party was
under Bill Clinton. But as the party moved to the left, farther and farther to the left,
he followed the party to the left. And now he is essentially a Bernie Sanders-style Democrat.
And so I wanted to write a book that would expose that and warn people that a Biden presidency
would combine the worst of the Obama years with the worst of the present-day Democratic Party
that is now captive to AOC and Bernie Sanders.
Now, that's one of the reasons I'm excited to talk to you
because I think many people are up in the air about that.
It seems to me that there's no question
that if he were elected,
we would see a nightmare unleashed on the country
because I think that he doesn't have the ability,
just as Nancy Pelosi didn't have the ability
to stand against the radical younger left members
in that party.
They don't, they just don't have it in them.
And when I say they don't have it in them, part of that has to do with their lack of courage.
They don't have political courage.
So if they have to go along, they'll go along.
And that's what we've seen Nancy Pelosi do.
But you're telling us that in his core, Biden himself is not opposed to some of these radical left ideas like open borders or, you know, treating communist China as an ally rather than a foe.
I mean, this is horrifying, but that's evidently what you say in your book.
Right.
You know, Biden doesn't really have an intellectual bone in his body, but to the extent that
he thinks about political and moral philosophy, his thoughts run in a leftward direction,
and they always have.
You know, the reason I call him a crypto-socialist is that his philosophy of taxation is
basically that the government should redistribute wealth.
You know, he said that, that the purpose of taxation is to spread the wealth around.
Well, that's not the traditional American understanding of taxation.
Taxation exists for the purpose of financing the legitimate functions of the federal government.
And any taking of money that exceeds that need, you know, in the traditional view, would constitute a form of theft.
But under the socialist understanding of things, which Biden has always subscribed to,
to, taxation is really just an extension of what what the Democrats would call social justice.
And so that's just one example of how his philosophizing, to the extent that it exists at all,
lends itself much more to liberalism than to any kind of moderation.
I guess, you know, at this point, when I think about Biden, I also think about somebody
who would be China's best friend and therefore America's worst enemy.
In other words, he seems to be such an opportunist.
that he turns a blind eye to anything that, you know, for example,
Trump has dramatically, courageously stood against China and their trade policies.
And you kind of feel like we haven't had presidents that we haven't had anybody with the courage
to do that.
Trump does that.
But it seems like Biden would be a return, dramatic return, to people who would appease
the worst of China and who would, in a sense, say, well, we can get some money.
off of this or we can get some benefits off of this or I can get some benefits off of this
or my family can get some benefits off of this. That seems to be his pattern. Oh, absolutely. Yeah,
he's been an apologist for China not only in terms of China's economic policies, which he's always
champion. You know, he was fighting for most favored trade status for China back when the
Democrats were against that in the 1990s. Back then, he was for that. But even with respect to
China's moral practices, Biden has been an apologist. For example, he went over to China
during the Obama years and he endorsed the China's repressive population control measures.
He said he fully understood China's one child policy. So that, you know, that shows the depth
of his defense of China that he'd be, you know, go so far as to endorse the one child policy
of the Beijing communist. And so, yeah, we're going to go from a president who stood
up to the communists of Beijing to a president who bows to them.
It's horrifying.
And we know that many conservatives were also pushing for most favorite nation status.
And I think there's two kinds of ignorance that played into that.
One is ignorance of evil.
The other is the idea that the free market is some kind of a god, that the free market
is going to naturally give us freedom, which of course is simply nonsense.
and you as a Catholic Christian understand that.
What about the tax cuts?
It seems like Biden has made it really clear
that he's going to repeal the Trump tax cuts.
What would that mean to the average American?
It seems to me that the press has effect,
the media has effectively hidden this
because this is a big news that I'm going to raise taxes.
Oh, yeah.
And he said it something like 10 times.
He said, you know, the very first thing he will do as president
is repeal the Trump tax cut.
And he hasn't said that he's going to repeal part of the Trump tax cut.
He has said that he's going to repeal the Trump tax cut.
And Mike Pence pointed this out correctly in the debate with Kamala Harris,
that the promise is a blanket promise to repeal the whole Trump tax cut,
which means that the people most hurt by that will be the middle class
because they were the primary beneficiaries of the Trump tax cut.
And so when Biden says, oh,
you know, only people making over $400,000 will get hit with a tax hike. He's lying,
you know, unless he plans on only eliminating part of the Trump tax cut, but if he fulfills
his promise to repeal the Trump tax cut, you know, the middle class will be hit the hardest.
I guess it must be particularly galling for you as a sincere Catholic Christian to see Biden
dared to call himself a Catholic?
Oh, yeah, I mean, it's a gigantic fraud,
and which he has been pushing for years.
You know, he's sort of a poor man's Ted Kennedy,
you know, in the sense that, you know,
he advertises his Catholicism on the one hand
and then, you know, votes against it consistently on the other.
He stands against, you know,
these weak-need liberal bishops who are making excuses for Biden and saying that a vote for Biden is
acceptable, they always talk about one issue. But the reality is that Biden stands against church teaching on
multiple issues. He's in favor of embryonic stem cell research. He's in favor, as far as I can tell,
of euthanasia. He is officiated at a gay wedding. So, you know,
See, now that just takes the cake.
The idea, now look, I don't have a problem with people officiating at gay weddings if they want to,
but the idea that somebody who says, I am a Christian and that they would do that,
it's mind-boggling to me.
And the one thing I'm always teasing our friend John Smiric about is I say, like, look,
here's the one thing that you Catholics have that we evangelicals don't.
You have the ability to publicly and officially rebuke someone who's doing something like that.
Why are no U.S. bishops doing that?
It's a staggering thing to me.
I think the fundamental reason for their silence is that they agree with Joe Biden's version of Catholicism.
You know, most of these bishops don't support the traditional teachings of the church either.
You know, does anybody really think that, you know, these liberal bishops support the church's teaching on contraception?
No.
So that's why they don't care about Biden reimposing a contraceptive mandate.
Well, look, this is a little, this goes a little bit beyond contraception, but you're right.
We're going to continue the conversation.
Folks, I'm talking to George Neumeier.
Many books out, but the brand new book is called The Biden Deception.
Don't go away.
Folks, we're talking to the author of the Biden Deception, a brand new book by George Newmire.
George, you were just saying that many of the bishops, the Catholic bishops in America,
don't publicly say anything against Joe Biden, who has very dramatically and publicly embraced and promoted anti-Catholic,
anti-Christian policies is because they themselves don't really care.
But how many bishops are there in America?
I mean, the idea that you don't have a few of them speaking out more publicly.
I don't understand how that's supposed to work.
Well, it just speaks to the lack of faith amongst the bishops.
You know, when the bishops become faithless,
the Catholic politicians become faithless too.
And so the Catholic pro-abortion problem, you know, which we've been fighting with for decades now, that goes really all the way back to JFK, that's really a byproduct of the faithfulness of the bishops.
You know, the bishops didn't take the moral teachings of the church and don't take the moral teachings of the church seriously.
And consequently, Catholic politicians like Joe Biden don't take it seriously either.
And they never receive any rebuke.
They never receive any correction.
And again, I would say the reason for that is that the bishops and Biden share the same politics.
They're both politically liberal.
And I would say they also share the same dissenting Catholicism.
You know, most of these bishops don't support the church's teaching on contraception.
They kind of weakly support the church's teaching on abortion.
They don't particularly care if the contraceptive mandate under Obamacare is reimposed.
And so, you know, the only people who are really fighting for religious liberty in the church are the people who take religion seriously.
It's only if you take religion seriously, will you take religious liberty seriously and suppressions of it seriously?
And so I think that, you know, and Pope Francis, of course, you know, his politics and his moral views align with Joe Biden's, you know, not perfectly, but sufficiently.
to explain why there's this deafening silence from the Vatican about Joe Biden?
Well, it's horrifying to me.
I know that there are so many faithful Catholic Christians that I have known
and that I have the privilege to speak with.
And I know that they're grieved at the state of the church at this point,
that you don't have bishops and priests speaking out more publicly
against someone like a Joe Biden.
Because listen, Joe Biden can believe whatever he wants.
But the idea that he believes these things and then says,
I'm a Catholic, I just think, I don't know how you get to say that.
I am way more Catholic than Joe Biden.
And I don't go around saying that I'm a Catholic.
So it's very strange to me.
What do you think of Biden the man?
In other words, at this point, do you think that he is capable of governing
or do you think that in effect, he would be treated as a cardboard cutout with people behind him manipulating things?
Yeah, there is no question that he is weakening and that he's lost his mental edge.
This was a problem first identified not by Republicans, but by Democrats last year during the run-up to the primaries
when people like Cory Booker and Andrea Mitchell commented on Biden's lack of sharpness.
So, yeah, there's no question that he is on the downhill slope of dementia,
and that that will, I'm pretty sure that that is going to result in a Kamala Harris presidency.
He's going to hand off the presidency to Kamala Harris as his condition deteriorates.
But before that happens, he will serve as a tool of the rest of.
radical left. He will defer to their wishes and to their demands. And, you know, a Biden administration
is going to be chocka block full of Bernie Sanders acolytes and AOC acolytes. And, you know,
I can't remember her name now. One of his assistants is a former Bernie Sanders aide.
I'm blanking on her name, but she's the prototype of the person who will enter the Biden administration.
and so, you know, and we all know that personnel is policy.
So the more radicals you bring into your administration and scatter across the federal
agencies, the more radical the results will be of that government.
Is he, do you suppose that he is scared that if he doesn't tack left publicly as he's been doing,
that he will lose the Bernie supporters, the real radicals?
Well, you know, I think he's, he's.
made sure that they weren't going to act up by selecting Kamala Harris as his running mate.
He could have selected somebody much more moderate, but instead he chose the most liberal
member of the U.S. Senate and somebody whose positions are as left or as far left as AOCs
or Bernie Sanders.
I mean, just look at her position on bailing rioters out of jail.
You know, she tweeted out that people should send money to bail rioters out of jail.
this is the person who's running with Joe Biden.
And so and they're both at this point subscribers to the to the Black Lives Matter ideology,
which is explicitly anti-American and socialist and secularist in its most extreme form, you know,
that seeks to destroy the traditional family.
And they haven't said a word against BLM.
It's impossible almost to be believed that this is the man the Democrats have charged,
chosen to represent him and even more difficult to believe that many people will vote for him.
I mean, it's one thing to put McGovern up and then to have a Nixon landslide, but to think
that we would have anything less than a Trump landslide with someone like this running against
him is horrifying.
It's one of the reasons I wanted to have you on just to talk about it.
We'll be right back.
Final segment talking to George Neumeier, the book is The Biden Deception.
Brand new book, get a copy.
the Biden Deception.
Folks, I'm talking to the author of a brand new book, The Biden Deception.
His name is George Neumeier.
He comes recommended by Johns Meirak.
You know what that means.
We want to talk to that guy.
George, I've enjoyed speaking with you.
We haven't touched on just a couple of issues with regard to Biden.
He seems to have made very serious deals with people like AOC.
and Beto O'Rourke. These are people who, Beto O'Rourke has been very clear. He wants to take away everybody's guns.
It's a stunning thing. AOC and others have promoted the so-called Green New Deal, which when I first heard it, I thought this is the most preposterous thing I've ever heard.
And yet there are people like the man running for president willing to go along with it.
It seems like pure madness and a recipe for socialism.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's, Biden has made it clear that, you know, radicalism will dictate the policies and the personnel of his administration.
You know, he established that working group with Bernie Sanders, that unity task force.
And it produced a manifesto that, you know, that reads like something that Karl Marx himself could have written.
And, you know, he makes, it's, it's.
You know, as you point out, he has said that he wants to make Beto O'Rourke his guns are
and Elizabeth Warren is Treasury Secretary.
So we can expect Beto O'Rourke to come for our guns and Elizabeth Warren to come for our money.
And then he's talked about making John Kerry and AOC climate change czars of sorts.
So, you know, we're looking down the barrel of the most radical administration
in the history of this country.
And, you know, we're going to be living under a left-wing dystopia.
or potentially a very long time.
Yes, that's unfortunately a fact,
which is why I've been so vocal in supporting the president's reelection.
I just don't think people understand what's at stake.
It's that simple.
In other words, you can despise Donald Trump.
Fine.
But if you do not reelect him,
do you have any idea, ladies and gentlemen,
what is going to happen?
We're hearing it now from George,
Newmire, who's written a brand new book on Joe Biden, the Biden deception. It's not, you know,
these aren't the Democrats of 20 years ago. This is something that we have never seen. And because
people seem to hate Trump, they seem to think, well, we don't care. What could be worse than Donald
Trump? Well, unfortunately, you might find out. Yeah, I think we're going to look back. If Trump gets
voted out, it's going to be sort of like the British getting rid of Winston Churchill after he won
World War II. I mean, I'm not, I'm not drawing any strict parallels between the two men. Obviously,
you know, Trump has a issue. Churchill was a drinker. But the fact is, is that, you know,
if you exclude COVID from your analysis, we've basically had four years of peace and prosperity.
And that's one of the things I don't understand is that we've had four years of peace. You know,
there have been no major foreign policy conflicts,
no major terrorist attacks.
But, you know, Trump has been faithful to his promise
to keep us out of stupid wars and stupid conflicts.
That should count for something, you know,
when evaluating a president, you know,
has this person kept our country at peace?
And Trump has.
So I really, you know, to me,
this is a choice between common sense,
which Trump in his own way represents.
And the other choice is the path,
that leads towards a left-wing dystopia, one that the founding fathers of our country would not
be able to recognize as American. And so, yeah, I mean, it's, to me, the choice could not be
easier or clearer. Well, the most important thing to remember is that corn pop was a bad dude.
That's the most important. That's the clearest that Biden has been on any subject, I think,
and we need to just remember cornhop was indeed a bad dude. Your book has just been out a few,
weeks now, but I'm so glad you wrote it for such a time as this. This is not, I think that the
mainstream media's inability, unwillingness to put the tough questions to Biden could destroy the
nation. And we need to speak up simply about who he is, which you have done in this book,
the Biden deception. You know, you talk about how he wants to remake America. People forget
he was the one who pushed President Obama to recognize same-sex marriage.
Right. Joe Biden, the Catholic, ha-ha, he was the one. And you never hear anybody mention that.
That's right. You know, he got into trouble with the Obama people. They said he had gotten out ahead of his skis on the gay marriage issue. And so, yeah, that's, you know, it's funny. You know, he was supposedly brought into the Obama administration to serve as a check.
on Obama's radicalism. Instead, he served as a stimulant of it. And I point out on the book that
he's gone way past the, even the kind of conventional LGBT position. He's now a huge supporter
of transgenderism and he wants to turn all public schools into, you know, little laboratories of
transgenderism and get as many kids coming out as transgender as possible. And he's going to
impose that, you know, that'll be a test, I think, on anybody who wants to interact.
with the federal government, you know, whether or not they accept transgenderism.
And so we're going to see just an unprecedented assault on religious liberty under Biden.
You know, it'll make the Obama year seem tame by comparison.
That's a very dramatic statement.
The idea that he would want to push the transgender ideology.
I mean, it seems that it has no real world consequences for him.
He doesn't have any grandkids or anybody that are going to be having to deal with
this, or he doesn't care. But it just seems to me that, you know, God forbid that he would get elected.
It's truly horrifying to me. And as I hear you, you know, run it down. It sounds even worse than I
feared. What is your sense of what this election will bring? Do you think America will reelect the
president or not? If I had to, you know, predict today what's going to happen, I would say that Biden,
unfortunately will win.
And his administration will be the final installment of that fundamental transformation of the
country which Obama started and promised.
And I think, you know, unfortunately we are, you know, very rapidly moving in the direction
of becoming a political society that is not based on constitutional principles, but is
based upon left-wing tyranny.
I'm really sorry to agree, but George Newmeyer, that's no thanks to folks like you who are speaking up.
I want to thank you for being my guest.
Thank you for the Biden deception.
Congratulations on the book.
And since we're Christians, we know there's something called the power of prayer.
Many people listen to this program understand we need to pray for this nation.
Act and pray and vote.
Thank you very much.
Thanks a lot for having me.
Folks, before we go for the day, I wanted to do a little justice to the memory of my very, very dear friend Thomas Howard, the brilliant author and teacher.
His book, Chancellor of the Dance, I count as certainly one of the best books of the 20th century.
It's like a book that C.S. Lewis wrote. And by the way, Tom Howard met C.S. Lewis. My good.
goodness. John Smirak, I was just hoping that you and I could talk for a bit about Tom.
What an amazing man. I got to know Tom. I believe he's gone. I interviewed him for Socrates in the
city about his book, Chance of the Dance. People can go to Socratesandthecity.com and get the book
Chance of the Dance. I wrote a new forward to it where I talk about what I'd love to talk about
now if we had the time, but we don't. But what about you? Well, I loved his book, Chance of the
dance, also his book, The Secret of New York Revealed, which is a memoir of living in the 60s and 70s
in New York and watching the liberals to take the city you remember from breakfast to Tiffany's
and turn it into taxi driver. How did that happen? This book shows how that happened. Now, I'm not
kidding. I'm not kidding. The only reason that book exists is because of your friend Eric Metaxus.
I was having a conversation with Tom Howard probably 15 years ago. And,
in passing in the conversation, he says to me, yeah, I wrote a book after Chance of the
Dance and I thought it was as good or I really thought it was one of my best books, but it was
never published. And I just did like one of those double takes. Like what? What? You, Tom Howard,
wrote a book that you think is one of your best books and it was never published. And I got angry
even at him. I said, Tom, you can't let it not be published. You can't let it not be published.
What? Where is this book? Oh, he says, I think my daughter Galadette maybe has it in a trunk in North Dakota. I'm not sure. I'm not. I insisted that he find that manuscript. I begged him to have it published. It was published by Ignatius and it's called Secrets of New York revealed. Thank you for reminding me because that's one of my proudest things in life. I had that conversation with him and I just got angry. I said, you've got to publish this book. I have a short, funny.
story about Tom Howard.
Go ahead.
He brought him to speak a couple of times when I taught at Thomas More College in New
Hampshire.
And once he was giving a talk on Brideshead Revisited, and both my beagles were there.
And one of them, Franz Joseph, pudgy little beagle, toddles up to the front, turns around
and faces the audience.
So it looks like a debate between Thomas Howard and my beagle phronsie.
And at one point, Franzi starts yawning and scratching his ear as if it's a lot of, you
he is winning the debate handily. And Tom was such a gentleman in this appalling situation that I did
nothing to rectify because it was so funny, I was in the back taking pictures of it. And I will post
the picture on Twitter of Thomas Howard debating Franziosin in his honor today. I mean, I know you're
not making this up because you've told me the story before. I had to make it up to Tom for doing this
to him. I sent him the complete DVD series of Jeeves and Worcester and that kind of deep. Oh my gosh. Well,
You know, I just want to say, because we're going to, we're at the end of the hour.
But anything he wrote is extraordinary.
But his book, Chance of the Dance, takes the cake.
And I just want to say people, it's very literary and it is utterly brilliant.
But there's so much that he has done.
But when I hear you say that he gave a lecture on Brideshead Revisited, I want to know were these lectures.
He gave so many lectures on T.S. Eliot's four quartets,
where they recorded.
These are treasures.
I would do anything to get those things publicized.
I'm going to have to look into it.
I'll talk to his son.
We are out of time.
I'm grateful to God for my friend Tom Howard for his life and his writings.
And John, I'm grateful to you for being my guest roughly once a week.
We are truly blessed.
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