The Eric Metaxas Show - Harry Scherer

Episode Date: August 22, 2023

Harry Scherer Contributing Editor at The American Conservative Weighs in on RFK, the other populist running for President ...

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Starting point is 00:00:39 Hey folks, welcome to Monday. This is the beginning of the week for me and probably for most of you. Traditionally, Monday is seen as the beginning of the week. Chris Heims, how about for you? Will you consider this beginning of the week? It is. Normally it is. All right. So we're together on that.
Starting point is 00:00:56 It's the beginning of the week. Now, I tell my audience, coming up in this hour, we're going to be talking to a young man named Harry Shearer, not to be confused with the man who does the voice of Montgomery. Burns on the Simpsons. No, it's a different Harry Shearer. This is somebody's written for the American Conservative. He's written a long article on RFK Jr. Very interesting. We're going to explore that with him in this hour, RFK Jr. In hour two, I believe we're going to be speaking about men's fashion and why it's not just about fashion. It actually has meaning. How we dress, how we present ourselves has meaning. So get ready for that. Chris, I, I got to
Starting point is 00:01:39 I got to tell you, this weekend, I was in a church. Well, actually yesterday, I was in a church in Ben Salem, Pennsylvania. Ben Salem, Pennsylvania. It's about an hour and 40 minutes from New York. We drove out there, drove back. It's called Christian Life Church, Pastor Mike English. What a great church. I go to these places. I get so encouraged that there are churches that they get it. They are doing what I write about in my book, Letter to the American Church. They're living it out. They're not hiding in the shadows saying, we don't want to be controversial. They are willing to simply speak the truth and they are blessing their congregations.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I'm sure you can see my sermon there online, but it's Christian Life Church in Ben Salem, Pennsylvania, just a privilege for me to be with those folks to meet Pastor Mike and his wife, Christy, their son Elijah, just encouraging to me to meet people like this and communities like this, full of people of faith in action, not just faith in your head, which is fake faith, but faith that lives itself out, lives out, live in action, just beautiful. Anyway, okay, so speaking of faith in action, we want to ask you, we want to continue to ask you to step up with food for the poor. Food for the poor feeds people in our hemisphere who are suffering in Latin American countries.
Starting point is 00:03:06 But as we begin the week in this country, many of you know that tropical storms and flooding are hitting the Baja Peninsula in California, Hurricane Hillary or tropical storm, whatever it was. Hillary hit landfall and deleted 30,000 emails. Isn't that unbelievable? Sorry, that was a joke. That was a cheap joke. That was a good one.
Starting point is 00:03:32 It was a cheap joke that I stole from the Babylon B. But seriously, the, you know, when, when storms hit, the destruction is horrifying. And this is the first tropical storm. This is amazing to hit Southern California in 84 years, right? Now, I want to say that meanwhile, forecasters are warning that major Atlantic hurricanes, Atlantic, are likely very soon. We have the hurricane season coming up in the Atlantic. And the reason I'm bringing this up right now is that there are 17 countries served by our friends at Food for the Poor, which is a Christian nonprofit relief agency. And this month, they're focusing on emergency relief supplies because they know that hurricane season is upon us.
Starting point is 00:04:28 and it's going to strike many of these countries and these communities very, very hard, and they want to be prepared. Chief Executive Officer, Food for the Poor, Ed Rainey, says the arrival of the Atlantic hurricanes puts hundreds of thousands of poor people squarely in the eye of potential danger. Ed Rainey, I think, gave us a clip. Let's see if we can play that clip. As we start to think about disaster response, we've got to think about just what might be coming our way.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And although it's been quiet in the tropics for a little while, this week as we look at it, we've got four potential storms shaping up because of things like the incredible temperature that we're seeing, I mean, almost 100 degrees in the temperatures off of Florida, are really a bad thing because it's going to fuel these storms to a level that we probably haven't seen before. Well, the good news, folks, is that you can put your faith into action by doing something, whatever you can do. Some of you can do a lot. Some of you can do less. We can all be generous. We can all be self-sacrificial.
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Starting point is 00:06:39 California, we have FEMA, the federal government steps in and helps out. They don't have that in the countries we're talking about. So we who have the ability need to step up through relief organizations like Food for the Poor to help these people who suffer tremendously under normal circumstances. But when these hurricane hits, they can lose homes. By the way, I should say that because of a grant, Food for the Poor is able to rebuild a home, to build a new home, I should say, for $4,900. So if anybody has $4,900, burning a hole in their pocket, I recommend you go to metaxis talk.com and go to the banner, Emergency Religious. leaf. It's amazing. Obviously, whatever you give will go toward that, but that's very, very important. We need you to step up as you're able. If you'd like to call, it's very easy. We're asking you to either go to the website, Metaxistalkisotoc.com to text Eric to 911-99 or to call, if you prefer to call. It is 844-863 Hope, 840.
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Starting point is 00:12:09 Please go check it out today. That's legacy pm investments.com. Hey there, folks. Welcome back. For the longest time, I've wanted to talk about RFK Jr. on this program. Fortunately, today I have on someone who has written a wonderful article about RFK Jr. His name is Harry Shearer. He's a contributing editor at the American Conservative. The article that we're going to talk about is at the Americanconservative.com. It's called The Other Populist in the Race. Of course, that's RFK Jr. Harry is here. Welcome to the program.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Thank you so much for having me, Eric. Well, listen, what is it about R.FK Jr.? I find myself in a way cheering him on because anybody who's a truth teller on anything, I could disagree with you violently on, you know, X, Y, and Z. But if you're telling the truth about vaccine harms or if you're telling the truth about any of this stuff, I'm just thrilled because so many people are too cowardice.
Starting point is 00:13:20 to talk about what's in front of them or, or, so what is, what is the deal with RFK Jr. In the sense of where did he come from? What's he been doing? And how does he suddenly find himself at the center of attention? Very, very controversial, very hated by many Democrats because, I don't know, because he's stealing the thunder of Joe Biden, who has no thunder to steal. So I'm not sure what the big deal is. Of course.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Well, RFK Jr. has been of interest for me and for my colleagues at the American Conservative for some time now since his announcement. And that's not just because of the excitement that he stirred up among others on the political right, but because the last time that a major presidential candidate challenged the incumbent within his own party was the campaign of Pap Buchanan in the 1992 Republican primary. Papua Cannon, of course, was one of the founders of our magazine back in 2002. Another point of interest is that our magazine has always been about going against the reigning orthodoxies of the time, especially within the GOP, whether those orthodoxies pertain to challenging the military industrial complex, the sort of feverish interventionism that characterized the Bush era, or the sort of fundamentalism with trade and immigration. seems to be doing the same thing within his own party, both in tone and in principle. Finally, and most plainly, he's a Kennedy. Those within his own party...
Starting point is 00:15:00 I actually forgot about that. I'm not kidding. I'm actually not kidding. Like, it's the kind of thing that you kind of... It's already baked in. You take it for granted. But he thinks somebody needs to say that. Thank you, Harry Scherer for saying that. He's a Kennedy. For the love of Pete, he's the son of the murdered RFK senior. He's the nephew of President JFK. I mean, it is a big deal when a Kennedy steps into the Democratic political debate. It's a huge thing.
Starting point is 00:15:32 And I think it's because of that, and I don't mean to steal your thunder, but it seems that is why the Democratic establishment is so angry because he's not just some guy. He is, you know, a Kennedy. Absolutely. I mean, his uncle was the king of Camelot. his father, you said, as you said, was just about to clinch the Democratic nomination when he was assassinated in 1968. And now the Biden administration is making a point of rejecting the
Starting point is 00:16:01 secret service protections that he's been requesting for months now, even with all this history. It just so happens that he's running against the geriatric patient, right? And he's running a campaign that is fundamentally opposed to many of his own party's principles. Well, it is bizarre, really, where does he come from? Let's go there. In other words, where does he, how does he suddenly come to be known? I mean, I've known him as somebody who's spoken out against vaccines for years, but where did he come from? What's he been doing up until now, roughly speaking? He's been doing a lot of environmental activism and environmental law with riverkeeper and waterkeeper. So these are two groups that were environmental law groups. So one of his,
Starting point is 00:16:51 one of his biggest achievements, he was, he was recognized in Time magazine in the late 90s for his work cleaning up the Hudson River. So one of the things that really shined through during our interview and with his personal history is how much of a litigator he is. Of course, President Trump is so used to the one being sued, right? And that's, and that's one of the things that people know. him for, but then RFK Jr. has that sort of litigatory zeal where he's always ready to go out and try cases. But he's also a believer in free market capitalism. I mean, that's not typical for Democrats these days. That's right. So he is libertarian in a good number of issues, especially in economic issues, and he even ties that to his environmental concerns. The civil
Starting point is 00:17:42 libertarianism, though, is something that has been a little bit more confusing in recent days. Of course, we all saw the reporting that came out on Sunday evening in which he had an interview with an NBC reporter, and it seemed that his position on abortion was confused. He brought up the idea of a 12-week ban or a three-month ban. This was not – the reporter did not ask him about any time-based restrictions, but this was something that he brought up on his own. And then his campaign, sadly, for the pro-life movement, of course, drew that back and said that he fully supports a woman's right to choose. So it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:24 It fully supports a woman's right to kill her child up until the ninth month. That's the bombshell horror. That's the nightmare. Because here's a man with whom I would agree on many things, certainly not on everything. And I would expect him to be vaguely pro-choice. Why would we expect any different? But for his campaign to come out and to say that he favors abortion in the ninth month. Now, that seems to me to be nakedly political.
Starting point is 00:18:53 In other words, the fact is that he believes he has a chance in the Democratic Party and that his campaign said, unless you put that issue aside so that every Democrat knows that you're with them on that issue, you don't have a chance. So it seems to me to be nakedly political. and to belie, probably what I think his conscience actually tells him. I would agree with you. We don't know what sort of combined interests led to that statement that came out, just speculating, but there could be members of his campaign that they're working for a Democrat, right?
Starting point is 00:19:31 And they say that we won't work for you unless you come out and support a woman's right to choose his donors. The party itself, I mean, it's become clear that he's not too concerned about what the priorities of his party are. But you never know to what extent that might have contributed. Well, it's really sad that that came out. But I want to be clear for my audience because there are a lot of people that are so hidebound that unless you tick off every box and agree with them on everything, you're out. I think that's ridiculous. I think we ought to remember that Rudolph Giuliani ran and became the mayor of New York City,
Starting point is 00:20:03 thank God, and basically saved this city from utter ruin and brought it into a golden era. And I live here, so I know what I'm talking about. And because of the makeup of this city politically, he had to be pro-choice and pro-gay rights or whatever it was that I disagree with. But you're dealing with politics. So it is a little complicated. And some people will brook zero dissent on certain of these issues. And I think that anybody who would expect that somebody running on the Democratic side that would have any kind of pro-life position is preposterous. And so what I want to do is I want to thank God for where he is speaking the truth.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And this is no different than if you're hearing from Bill Maher or Russell Brand or anybody who is not a conservative, who's not a Christian, but they're speaking truth, Naomi Wolf, on really, really important things. I think we need to understand that that's tremendously helpful in general. And so it bothers me profoundly that his campaign said that. But at the same time, I kind of want to put that in a box. and talk about what he is saying that is so disturbing to the Democratic establishment. So in your article, you talk about some of that. Why do you think suddenly he decides he wants to run for president? What led him to that?
Starting point is 00:21:26 That's really the shocker. I think COVID was a very formative thing for him specifically, and he received a lot of pushback specifically on social media. It's become clear that the Biden administration was colluding with, Facebook to get his Instagram removed. So we have one of the clearest violation of political rights just in that example. So I think he's received a lot of momentum from that encounter. So as you said, I agree with you on the issue of not being able to take a box for every single issue, not every candidate. There's not going to be a single candidate that a voter will agree
Starting point is 00:22:04 with on every single issue, right? But it's these political rights that he is very concerned. with. The social issues are something that in the interview, it became clear he was not as concerned with. He has deeply, deeply held beliefs, that's for sure. But it was just clear just with the way that he was communicating it, that it's not the height of his priority. Well, and this is why I think conservatives and Christian conservatives can often be their own worst enemies because they are so so fussy that they will not vote for somebody unless he or she agrees with them on everything. That's bad politics, folks, and that actually, if you do that kind of thing, you bring harm to the country. You need to be very careful in politics to have wisdom, to be wise as serpents, not wise as doves.
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Starting point is 00:25:51 I guess free speech is a gigantic issue. In other words, you just referenced Biden and company trying to censor. I mean, this is so despicable. It's mind-bending to me that we're here in America, that the left is against free speech. I don't even know how you can be against free speech and be even vaguely American. Like, it's just the most extraordinary thing
Starting point is 00:26:13 that we've come to this place, that the left is really in lockstep with Marxist ideology, absolutely anti-liberty, anti-founder's vision. So RFK Jr. on that issue seems to me to be a real American. He certainly has priorities that are aligned with the right. It's not just, I do not believe it's just a social media phenomenon that people on the right are attracted to him. The issues of the political rights, social media, tyranny, and misinformation, the sort of obsession with
Starting point is 00:26:50 misinformation on the left, right? The government surveillance as well. These are all things that mainstream Republicans are certainly concerned with, RFK is as well. But then also, as I mentioned in my piece, issues that the so-called dissident right is concerned with about clean air and clean water, so-called crunchy, more crunchy conservatives, and things of that nature, RFK is certainly interested in. Well, I mean, I guess the point that has to be made is that we have all, those of us on the conservative side, have increasingly dismissed so-called environmentalism because it's been given over to complete loons. I mean, they are no longer, unless you agree with them on climate change, unless you agree with them on kind of this, it's a Malthusian, anti-human,
Starting point is 00:27:41 you know, wipe out as many human beings as we can to save the planet. It's this kind of a bizarre new age religion. And we have really over time, more and more, those of us on the right, just stepped away because we haven't seen any voices of reasonable environmentalism. And so RFK Jr. is certainly that. I agree. During the interview, it was very clear that he is not bought and sold in this sort of climatist ideology. That's not something that he agrees with. As you mentioned, at the beginning, he ties the notion of free market capitalism to his environmental concerns. So everything, he's a very, he's a very thoughtful man that's a typical depiction and description of him,
Starting point is 00:28:33 and it's certainly shown through during my interview with him. And so I don't think that you'll find many positions that RFK Jr. will take on for which he is totally ideological. I think sort of local government liberals are very interested in him because he has this tone and attitude about him that citizens and different organizations can approach him with their positions on issues and he would hear them out. I think Biden, he framed his candidacy as like the unifying president, the president for all Americans. But at least for me, slightly more compelling for RFK Jr. because he is really a true liberal by temperament. So he takes it seriously. Well, yeah, I mean, he seems a liberal in the vein of his uncle, JFK Jr,
Starting point is 00:29:23 who now would be considered roughly conservative on many things. That's what's so bizarre is the way the parties have changed. Let's talk about Big Pharma. I mean, there is nothing more horrifying to me than to see a multi-billion dollar companies crushing free speech, crushing dissent, allying themselves with
Starting point is 00:29:47 the democratic establishment and with what used to be the journalistic establishment in America to crush free speech, to crush the search for truth. It's really a mind-blowing development that we're here. And R.FK Jr. has stood against
Starting point is 00:30:05 that rather bravely. So talk about what he has to say about Big Pharma and vaccines. Absolutely. He calls it the medical cartel. He said in a recent interview that within the first 100 days of his administration, he would, we'd travel to Bethesda, which is the headquarters for some of these agencies within HHS. And so he is very interested in curbing the corrupt merger, as he calls it, between state and corporate power that exists with the so-called medical cartel, this collusion between the big pharmaceutical companies and the federal agencies that are supposed to regulate them. We touched on vaccines briefly during our interview. It wasn't something that I wanted to make a big issue because, of course, the mainstream media is making vaccines the issue of his campaign.
Starting point is 00:30:58 The New York Times can't help themselves every time they mention him. They have to call him someone who spreads misinformation. on vaccines. It's like Purdue Pharma and all the other pharmaceutical companies get $100 million every time the New York Times mentions that, right? But he does say for those Americans who are skeptical or concerned about the vaccine regime that 95, 99 percent of Americans would agree with his position on vaccines, which is that the data should be available to Americans and there should be informed consent. That really seems to be his position on it. And But he also said that he would release that data that he says the CDC has, but that Americans don't have access to.
Starting point is 00:31:41 We'll be right back talking to Harry Shear about RFK Jr. Don't forget, folks, we need you to go today, please, to metaxis talk.com, give a generous donation to food for the poor. We really need your help. We're behind in our campaign, and we need your help today. Metaxis talk.com. You'll see the banner. We're very grateful to you. Thank you.
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Starting point is 00:33:41 Harry, it's interesting that one of the things, I mean, there's so many things to praise about RFK Jr. and it's just fascinating that he's thrown his hat into the ring, as we often say. But he really is a truth teller. He's brave. He doesn't care that the New York Times calls him an anti-vaxxer or whatever. He really, he is heroic in his willingness to go against, you know, those who would prefer that he would shut up and just get on Team Biden. what does he say about, well, actually, let me bring up the biggest thing that he said. He believes, as do I, and I've had many guests on this program to corroborate it,
Starting point is 00:34:30 that the CIA was directly involved in the murder of President John F. Kennedy, his uncle. That is something that has been, you know, brooded about in various circles over the decades. but for someone running for president to say that about his own uncle and about the CIA, which is funded by our tax dollars, that is bombshell news. Can you say more about that? Absolutely. There is a lot of myth and legend around his candidacy. Again, this is why I find it so surprising that his people within his own party who are trying
Starting point is 00:35:09 to squash his campaign are saying that he doesn't have a shot because it excites the imagination in the mind in ways that other campaigns simply don't. So as you said, he believes that the CIA was involved in the death, in the murder of his uncle. He also does not believe that Sourhan Sourhan was the assassin of his father. That was something that he talked about in an interview with Bill Maher recently. So he does have, as you said, this attention to the truth and not to the sort of blind ideology that captivates both parties.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Well, and listen, the fact is that it is almost certainly true, if you pay any attention to the facts, that the CIA was involved in the murder of President Kennedy. That is as evil and sick as anything that's ever happened in this nation, and the fact that it's been swept under the rug, the fact that we have rogue bureaucracy, that we have the CIA and the FBI really not working for we the people, but kind of doing their own thing. And what's interesting to me is that
Starting point is 00:36:21 we're seeing it in a way that we haven't seen since the Kennedy assassination. In other words, Kennedy in his day was going against what we now call the deep state. He was ruffling feathers. He was scaring people because the corruption was so deep, if you
Starting point is 00:36:40 know about, you know, President Johnson, who was as corrupt a bum almost as Biden, you know about Jay Edgar Hoover. When you know the depth of the corruption back then, 60 years ago, astonishingly, but it's been kind of swept under the rug, and then suddenly it's coming up again. We are seeing this thing called the Deep State. We're now aware of its existence. but it seems to me that his uncle was aware of its existence. It would have been called the military industrial complex.
Starting point is 00:37:14 We were warned by Eisenhower. So it's interesting to me that this figure arises now, who's the nephew of this assassinated president, the son of this assassinated candidate. So there is something mythical about this, that we are, in a sense, revisiting that time in our own time. Absolutely. As you said, Eisenhower coined that phrase, rather prophetically, in his farewell address right before JFK took office.
Starting point is 00:37:46 And RFK Jr. told me that his uncle JFK realized that Eisenhower knew what he was talking about within the first few months. The corrupt merger between what have now become the big five arms dealers and the agencies under the executive branch, such as state, defense, and energy. Those are the biggest offenders. And it's something that RFK is very much formed by. And one of the other appeals of his campaign that I think people recognized perhaps subconsciously is that he does not talk about these issues as something that he read about in a history course, but it's something that he lived. He saw his uncle meet with – he saw his father, rather, meet with a Russian spy in their own.
Starting point is 00:38:36 home. He saw his uncle pick up the red phone that would direct him directly to the Kremlin. So this sort of diplomacy in history is something that he knows rather instinctively because he saw it. I think that there are many, many, many on the Democratic side who really do see him as a savior of the party. And that's what horrifies the establishment in the Democratic Party. But it's interesting because it's the same with Trump. We now finally know the depth of the horror and the corruption. We now know, you guys that the American conservative know, the horror of the neocons, that Bush and Cheney were not our friends.
Starting point is 00:39:24 We, many times naively went along with them. But we now see, because of Donald Trump, the disruptor, that, no, they were lining their. their pockets or they were at least protecting their own power. They really did not have the concerns of we, the people, front and center. They were part of something that we now recognize, the Uniparty, the deep state. And so we're seeing a revolution happening in our time. And that's to my mind what makes RFK Jr. so exciting because you think that, well, we'll just see it on our side with Trump. But no, we're seeing it on the left.
Starting point is 00:40:04 as well. Some people, I think I even at one point mentioned RFK would be a great, you know, vice presidential candidate for Donald Trump. I don't think that's true, but I think it's interesting that things are being, in a sense, broken up. The standard view of things is being broken up. We've just got 30 seconds left. Final comment on your article, your take on RFK Jr. Yes. Well, I, well,
Starting point is 00:40:34 As you mentioned, the political landscape has changed so much in the past few years. Douglas McGregor, who was in the Trump administration doing foreign policy work for them, he told me that Trump and Kennedy would make a really powerful ticket. So whether that's true or not, or to the extent with which you agree with it, it just indicates that a man who was regularly on Tucker Carlson to talk about foreign intervention and who was in the Trump administration is saying that a Democrat would make a powerful ticket with Donald Trump. Unbelievable. Folks, check out the American conservative.com. Harry Scherer, thank you. Thank you.
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