The Eric Metaxas Show - Ivan Raiklin (Encore)

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

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Folks, welcome to the show. It is Tuesday in the reign of Donald Trump, the first. Insane, ladies and gentlemen, yesterday, I was there. I witnessed it with my own eyes, all three of them, all four of them. I got to tell you, I can't believe it. It's a new day. So today, well, we're going to do something different since I'm exhausted from all the partying. And Chris Himes, man, we partied together, man.

Yeah, there were lampshades involved. There were lampshades involved. It was wild. We partied hardy, bro. We partied hardy. But there's a time to celebrate. And I apologize for punching that guy. But seriously, it's just so exciting.

So today, first of all, in a moment, I want to play my conversation. with our friend Chris Stigal from the Herzog Foundation. Those guys are heroes. But after that, we're going to re-air my insane conversation. I hope you didn't miss it, but if you missed it, here it is again, with Ivan Rakeland. This just gives you a taste of what lies ahead with Donald Trump as president. Justice in America. Remember justice?

Anyway, God bless you. God bless America. Tomorrow I'll give you updates on the inauguration. Folks, if listen to this program, you know that one of our friends and partners is the Herzog Foundation. By the way, I get to talk right now to Chris Stigal of the Herzog Foundation. Chris, welcome back. Eric, it's great to be with you. Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas. I have, now, how do you know that I wasn't offended? You should have said happy holidays because you could have offended me. I felt safe in saying that to you somehow. I'm offended by holidays as a concept, but not by Christmas. Not by Christmas. Now, okay, the Herzog Foundation, tell my audience, in case they don't know, briefly, very briefly, about what is the Herzog Foundation? We exist solely to catalyze and encourage Christian schools across the country in whatever form that may take.

Some in your audience have explored or are exploring homeschooling. Some are thinking maybe I'd like to start a Christian school. Some are already established Christian school teachers or administrators. We train folks nationwide for free on all kinds of areas of Christian school development, whether that's curriculum, whether that's donor development, whether that's administrative and board leadership and so many other different facets that go into making a successful Christian school. Or if you want to, as I say, homeschool individually, we have a quick step-by-step, guide at Herzog Foundation.com, a free resource to you to help you get started or to find out

more about one of our trainings. You travel to it and we cover everything, the training, the food, and the lodging while you're there. So check it out at Herzog Foundation.com. Okay. And I want to talk about you guys put out a, what do you call it? A newsletter. What do you call it? The lion. Yeah, read lion.com. It's our news site. That's where we write about the, the culture. We write about government. We write about politics. And we cover a lot of different news stories. You know, everything from the growth of spirituality and some celebrities to tragedies like that school shooting this week, Eric. Yeah, let's start with the negative first, the school

shooting. I mean, do you have anything to add on that? It's hard to know what to say. What we're learning is, and it was a discussion that we were all having in the newsroom. and I'd love to ask you and maybe your audience, you know, this is a Christian school and it's a 15-year-old girl. And as it appears now that we're learning a little more, she was someone that was put into this school just in the last year, very, very troubled. So we were kind of having a discussion as a Christian school, and I'd ask you because I don't have an answer, what responsibility have Christian schools to aggressively monitor, frankly, people who are coming in, particularly if they're troubled from the outside? and is that something Christian schools can better police rather than this attitude of come one, come all without any kind of scrutiny?

Yeah, come into our country. We don't have any borders, come into our school. Obviously, anybody with common sense knows that's silly. It takes a really religious in the negative sense Christian to wave away common sense and to say, no, the Lord says, come one, come all. That's not that simple. Yeah, the Lord says that. but in this world, you know, we have to think things through practically.

And I think it's just like the idea that we shouldn't have borders. Yes, most people who come to America are wonderful people looking for a better life. That's not why you have a border. You have a border because you want to know when somebody comes in who really is dangerous and shouldn't be there, you want to know how to keep them out. And I don't know what to say about the school shooting. I will say this, Chris, you know, people tend to immediately go to, oh, we need gun laws. No, it is moral breakdown in America. You have over 50 years, people have been saying there is no God. It leads to madness. It leads to despair. It leads to people grabbing onto insane ideologies like this sad young woman was was grabbing onto. So ideas matter. And I mean, it's part of why I am a fan of the Herzog Foundation because I'm a fan of homeschooling and a fan of quality K through 12 Christ-centered education because we have to speak the truth.

We have to put the foundations in young people's minds of what is true. And God is real. God loves you. God wants to have a relationship with you. God has a purpose for your life. All of that stuff is essential to living. a good life. And if you don't get that, what are you going to get? And we know that this young woman had a lot of very, very bad ideas, and this is the worst case scenario, those bad ideas lead you

to murder, suicide, horrible stuff. So yeah. Eric, it's one of those things that we discuss all the time when we promote and encourage Christian school. One of the things we love to talk about at the Herzog Foundation is, are you running toward Christ or are you running from a problem or a failing school district or in this girl's troubled case, some sort of mental illness or bullying or what have you, to run to a Christian school simply as some sort of refuge for the secular, I'm not, I don't know philosophically how you feel about it, but I feel like we have to have a discussion about what we're running toward as families for our kids, not what we're running away from. Right. Well, I want to, before we run out of time, we just get a couple of minutes, but the lion, which is the website that

you guys put out the lion. People can go to readlion.com or read r a d, R-A-D-L-I-O-N, readlion.com. You have an article about two celebrities who have recently embraced traditional values. Sounds very positive. Tell us about that. Yeah, Lana Del Rey, one singer, Gwen Stefani, who a lot of people, I'm a Gen Xer, so I know Gwen Stefani from the no doubt days. Both of whom have Gwen, in particular, partnered with the hallowed app. I know you know quite a bit about that and have been very, very public in their faith. This HALO app in particular, not that I'm advertising for them, but we've seen Mark Wahlberg partner with them and several other celebrities. It's Patricia Heaton is someone I know you know, and I've probably interviewed before. It's a fascinating thing to see some celebrities now

boldly stepping forward in their faith, and that's one of the things that they cover at readline.com. I think you'll enjoy reading. Well, that article at readline.com talks about Gwen Stefani being public about her Christian faith, which I didn't know. But also it talks about Lana Del Rey. This is hilarious. She was doing like witchcraft trying to like cancel President Trump through voodoo and witchcraft. No kidding. No kidding, folks.

And she has recently married a pro-Trump like anti-vaccine, pro-traditional value dude. That is so hilarious and wonderful. that she obviously, at least to some extent, has come to her senses to where she would marry somebody who is for the guy that she was like a year ago doing witchcraftic. I mean, it's so insane, not a year ago, if I don't know, a few years ago. We're out of time. We're going to hold you over for another segment if you can hang out. Folks, check out Herzog Foundation.com.

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my guest right now i haven i don't know where to start with you first of all welcome with the program. Thanks for having me. Finally, I love it. Everything you're doing is fantastic, Eric. That's very kind. Because you're bold. If you have me on your show, that means you're just as bold. Well, it's a time to be bold, and we need to encourage each other to be bold. And I was introduced to you. I was just watching social media at some point, and I saw you in a viral clip. I don't even remember who you were talking to. I like to pronounce it, the National Poison Radio Reporter from, I think, this American

life, a producer or whatnot. So I was at one of the weaponization committee hearings that Jim Jordan chairs, and at the conclusion, she approached me, and she introduced herself as, oh, I'm with this American life, but she wouldn't say NPR. And obviously, you know,

I'm fairly well read, and I kind of know the ecosystem of the media landscape, and when she said, this American life, I knew exactly it was NPR, but I didn't exhibit that. I played dumb. And I said, oh, interesting. And I immediately pulled my phone out and started recording, and then And that's when you saw the 18 minutes of, I don't know, some people called it a massive schooling session.

And I was just speaking truth. I happened to watch it afterwards and thought, wow, did that just come out of my mouth? Now let's go back because my audience doesn't know you. What is your background? Yes, so professionally I have spent in the last quarter of a century from 1997 to 2022, so a couple years ago, as a military. Special Forces Officer, intelligence officer, military diplomat, countering ISIS, Taliban, MS-13, Russian aggression across five continents, picked up five languages along the way. And I happen to do that in different statuses in the Army or Intel community, Special Ops community, in the National Guard Reserves and the active component. When I wasn't on active duty, I picked up a law degree in that interim just to kind of, you know, fill my time up.

and focus on constitutional and national security law. Right. And so kind of to cap my professional career off, I finished off being selected for Battalion Command as I was finishing up being a technology scout in Silicon Valley in the reserves. But in my full-time capacity, if you will, I was an instructor at the Defense Intelligence Agency's

Joint Military Intelligence Training Center. And the course, it's the longest course that that institution has. It's a seven-week program where I taught a one week, One week of it was, here is the intelligence community 101 in our entire U.S. national security system. Wow. Two weeks of how to become a professional intelligence analyst to my students. And the students were from all of our partner nations that would send their students to civilian and military, from lieutenant or some mid-levels enlisted folks, up to including generals, as well as those

officers, intelligence officers, military and civilian within our U.S. intelligence community from all of the 17 components. And then also part of that course was Intel's support to multinational operations, meaning I would train them and instruct them on the 12 or 13, depending on what year it was, peacekeeping operations by the United Nations, EU operations, NATO, U.S.-led combat and command operations. So they got a sense of the entire gamut of our global footprint as an institution, whether it's the Department of Defense Intelligence, Intel Enterprise,

or the entire U.S. Intel community and national security ecosystem. What you're trying to say is you're a pretty bright guy. So I'm not the dumbest guy in the room. But you, listen, you were. I probably ain't. No, no. On the contrary. You were a Green Beret, and you are now very friendly with and working with an American hero named General Flynn.

Absolutely. That latter part, yes. You'd have to ask him if I'm working with him. Well, I am. I want to ask you. I'm on the board of America's future as of June of this year, which is General Flynn is now the chairman of that nonprofit. Okay, so I just want to ask you, here's a simple question.

What are the five languages you picked up? That's like insane that you can speak five languages. So my parents fled the Soviet Union in 1974. I was born in 76 in New York. They were political asylum. Russian at home. and then I went to college, picked up Spanish. Did a couple studies abroad programs?

Actually, the most premier institution on the planet. University of Northern Iowa, home of the Panthers. And the reason why I say that is because it was in Cedar Falls, Iowa. Okay. And purple and gold, fantastic colors. I've been to Cedar Falls. I've been there. And I'll say last thing is that Kurt Warner used to be a quarterback,

went a Super Bowl before the players started to kneel and disrespect the Constitution in the flag back then. Well, he was a Panther. Okay, so you speak Russian, you speak English, but why you were doing... But I didn't finish the question. Oh, sorry. Spanish, Russian, French, Arabic, and a little bit of English. So five of the official United Nations languages. A little bit of English.

That was good. That was good. So you What brings us In other words, when I saw this viral clip of you, sum this up because my audience will be unfamiliar with this. But you understand that we have profound corruption, treasonous corruption in our government.

What led you to want to do something about that and where are you? Because this is, you know, People like me are hoping that there are some warriors out there, you know, trying to figure out what's going on and let's do something about it. What led you into this? Yeah, so based on that introduction of 25 years in the system, when I say the system, remember, in the reserves, I was a technology scout in Silicon Valley my last few years.

So I understand that ecosystem fairly well, network relationships, but then also the entire national security apparatus. So when I observe, along with you and the rest of the audience, starting off with, I guess a lot of people were woken up in maybe 2020, they felt that it was an illegal election, right? It was done unconstitutional. We can go into detail as much as you want on that. Yeah. But for me, the initial point of angst or something doesn't smell right with, you know, my critical eye of based on my experience is that in 2014, this goes back 10 years for me. When I was sitting as a senior analyst, one of the senior analysts on the Ukraine crisis team, I was called in because of my languages, et cetera, in the Pentagon, National Military Command Center.

And I observed while I was not only working there, but in my spare time when I wasn't on duty, I wanted to be knowledgeable of what was going on. I would observe through the open sources, really, that John Brennan comes in as the CIA director at the time, right? and essentially paves the way for the failed vice president, Joseph Biden, the point man for Ukraine, he comes in and chairs essentially the cabinet in Kiev, and he says, I'm going to come up with unconventional ways in which to promote the economy of Ukraine. And those unconventional ways ended up being what? getting his son, Hunter, on the board of Burisma, and I guess the sales pitch to Burisma leadership was, my son, from his perspective,

has these keen olfactory senses that allow him to sniff out both where the natural gas and oil fields are. And so maybe his right nostril could smell out oil fields. And his left one could smell out natural gas in order to promote and create. business development. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, is a high level of sarcasm alert here. I want

people to be tracking. So clearly... His crack baby son, in order to pay for his hookers and blow, was put on the board of Marisma to the tune of $1 million a year, which translates into $83,33, and $33 a month. And why? $83,000 a month, because... Hunter Biden was on two waivers, commissioned into the naval reserves. He had to get a waiver for drug use, and he had to get a waiver for age. And who gave him that waiver? It was nothing but his father, the failed vice president.

And when he, the first reserve drill that Hunter went to, he had to do a urine test, and he failed it. And so he served for one month, and then literally during this time period, he was picked up to be the board member. Well, look, just to be... This is disgusting. This is the...

That's why this goes back to... 10 years, the pardon. But I want to be clear. So just in case anybody's not tracking, okay, the point is, here you have the vice president of the United States. And again, this is not, you know, Dan Quayle. This is somebody who has been in the political world up at that point for 40 decades. So he knows how to work the power and how to, so he is installing his son. And the whole point is, hey, Barisma, you will have access to the vice president of the United States and to this whole, system here if you put my son on and pay him this money. So it's completely corrupt. It's the definition.

That's why the pardon goes back 10 years. It goes back to that point. And I have, as I stepped through the last 10 years, I have had a first or second row seat literally to all the key corrupt ecosystem players that I smelled something, but it wasn't quite there yet until later on we'll discuss. And when we fast forward to 2016 and 2017, when they, So in 2014. Hang on, let's go to a break. We're going to be right back. Folks, I'm talking to Ivan Rakelin.

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Tremendous corruption. You had a front seat, as you said, to all of this kind of stuff. But, I mean, there's levels of wrongness, levels of evil. It's one thing for some hack political bum to be vacuuming cash. up. That's bad. That's number one. Number two, to be kind of trading favors with our enemies with people. I mean, this gets into kind of like huge corruption, right? But in a way, that's just the beginning, because that's like way back in, what, 2014, 2015. So now carrying this forward, you've got this whole evil system that, you know, steals an election from Donald Trump. And by the

way, they didn't steal it from Trump. They stole it from us, from we, the people, which is one of the most wicked things. And it goes on and on and on and on. So you had a front row seat at all this. At what point do you say, I want to do something about this? Right. So to finish off to get to that, yeah, 2014, literally my billet, if you will, I was at the Defense Intelligence Agency in this 2014 timeframe. For context, the director of the DIA was General Flynn. Which is itself fascinating, that he was a career, uh, Democrat. quote unquote Democrat, appointed twice by Obama the first time

as the principal deputy director of national intelligence for partner engagement because they thought he would play ball. They thought he would play ball. But he didn't because they... Of course.

When he was testifying before Congress, sitting next to him was Clapper, the DNI, Director of National Intelligence, the CLAA director, Jim... Comey. No, I'm sorry. John Brennan. Oh.

And then the FBI director, Jim Comey. And they said, hey, we're going to change your assessment on ISIS. And he basically was going to say that it's not a JV team. They're going to... Okay, so they were trying to pressure him... And he says, I'm not changing my assessment. Okay, so let's...

Again, I have to just annotate and to clarify. So here you have these corrupt, treasonous hacks. Clapper, Brennan, Komi, they're utter... They're bums, traitors. They're worse than Benedict Narnold. And they're willing to play ball. to keep power, to get money, whatever. And they thought that General Flynn,

they can get him to go along. He says no. He says no. So at the moment you say no, now you're in trouble. He says, no, I'm going to tell the truth of what I understand based on the sourcing and information that I'm getting. The other ones are, no. We have to create the narrative to fit what the political narrative is for Barry Hussein.

And so when that occurred, Barry Hussein contacts the Director of National Intelligence. Jim Clapper, who then contacts General Flynn and says, we are going to resign you. In other words, go ahead and resign. And so as an analyst at the Defense Intelligence Agency, somewhat tangentially astute to what's going on at the national level, much less so than today.

But it didn't make sense to me why that occurred, because he's the only one that's speaking truth to power. Why are they resigning him? And so that didn't sit well with me, but nothing really, I didn't really go into much kind of a counteroffensive at that point. I sent him a message the following day on LinkedIn and said, I get what happened, I understand you got a loyal soldier for life. And that's when our relationship kind of really started.

Up to that point, we, you know, bumped into each other at the headquarters and whatnot, so he probably wouldn't, he recognized me, but wouldn't know my name at to that point, but it wasn't until that point that our relationship in 2014 started, and then it continued to develop when he actually came out in support of Donald Trump in 2015 as the only person within the D.C. structure to actually come out swinging in support of President Trump. And then what they did in 2016 to 17 when he was forced into resigning again, that's when strike two happens. And even then, Trump didn't get it.

He didn't. Trump didn't get it. That's an amazing thing. General Flynn was outflanked, actually, with that maneuver. in my opinion. Yeah. Because up until that point, the year prior, in 2014, he was given the highest award that the FBI can give by John, excuse me, James Comey. And when you're working as the senior intelligence officer for the Joint Special Operations Command,

you have a lot of FBI embeds that you're coordinating with for actioning, actioning foreign terrorists, right? So he's thinking like, oh, he just, maybe they're asking, you know, Comey and McCabe are asking just to have a meeting with a couple of other guys to coordinate something. Who knows? It takes the meeting, ends up being a resignation. Now, as I search and research, remember, what part of being a instructor

of intelligence analysis, Green Beret, and constitutional lawyer, did they miss? Because I'm squeaky clean, and when you come after someone that I, the most respected general of our lifetime, probably going back to General George Washington, I'm going to

start digging, because now it's personal. because the way I've said this when we were on tour that I see in General Flynn exactly what happened to my father in the Soviet Union that's why he fled the Soviet Union the political persecution for speaking truth to power delivering the truth whatever the cost he had to flee and I saw that and just when you look yourself in the mirror and you look at the rest of society I've had the

I've been blessed to be able to be agreeing have all the maximum highest level training that this country offers, as well as the critical thought acumen, et cetera, if I don't step up to defend one of my own, no one else will. So it was a, it's an obligation to call it out. Right. Because at the end of the day, cowards are going to cower from these bullies. I don't have that mentality. And luckily, there's enough of us that we're able to say, you know what, you bully me, prepare for the wrath. Okay? And I mean that. I love this is what.

You F.A. I am going to maximally create consequences for you within my sphere of influence. And if they want to test that, please do that. Because you're going to receive the term that we're going to be using here shortly. Well, it starts with an arm.

This is, the reason I laugh is because it's so delightful to hear a man of courage and principle speak the way you do. It's just, just wonderful. We'll be right back talking to Ivan Reiklin. Both welcome back talking to Ivan Reiklin. Did your parents call you Ivan? Yes, they did. I knew they did. Actually, Ivan. Ivan. Or for short, Vanya. Vanya. But so give us a phrase in Russian before we get too

far into this here. Well, I don't want to speak Russian because your friend Adam Bullschiff may think we are doing Russian collusion. You know, his delusion. He is on my list of people that need a little bit of accountability. What's the name of that person, please repeating this name? Adam Bull-Shiff. He is currently your senator from California. Oh, I don't live in California.

I don't live in California. But Adam Schiff, we're going to get to all these guys, folks. So you, what's interesting here is that you understand there are people like Brennan, Comey, Clapper, that they're willing to play ball. They're willing to be corrupt. They're willing to sign, you know, 50 of these intelligence officials were willing to sign a piece of paper

saying that the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation. They're willing to lie and do whatever it is to keep power. And it strikes me that they're banked, they were banking on the fact that General Flynn was willing

to go along with this, keep his mouth shut, do what you're told. quote unquote for your country even though it's not for your country the implication I mean the the the the guess would be also that that there are folks in your position that'd be willing to go like that I don't want any trouble I'm to keep my nose clean I know it's dirty but I'm not going to what was it in you that said I need to step up

because you had been part of this system for years and you hadn't awakened to the horror really until 2014 I guess right so back to general Flynn has a proven track record of speaking truth to power. And I guess they missed it because in 2010, he wrote the, uh, he published an article that was called, uh, the blueprint fixing intelligence in Afghanistan. And it was a scathing report of the, the failures of intelligence in Afghanistan. Yeah. Luckily, he wasn't resigned then. And then 14 when he testified. And then in 17, they had to take him out. So this progression for me, you know, you know, as a, as a professional, you're focused on the mission. You know, I deployed, etc.

You think that the political decision makers up in D.C. are sending you to wars because it's a just cause. And that's how they advertise it because they own the mainstream media industrial complex. And where am I getting my information from? Well, it's maybe a broader array of sources. It's still within that mainstream ecosystem. It's not until you get into like a, I guess, more mid-level and senior positions that you're seeing all this jockeying, the manipulation. and that what's being reported is actually not commensurate with what you are personally observing. And what I'm personally observing of General Flynn and others, because guess what?

As a junior and mid-level officer in the ecosystem, you have other adjacent people that you've grown up in the system that are working for these people that you can now, hey, bud, hey, you know, Jane Doe or John Doe. Are you reading this? Does this make any sense? So you're kind of like testing the hypothesis of what's being put out in the MSM. And it's not commensurate with those that you've trusted and grew up with. So then my critical eye starts to dig and dig and dig. And that's when I would say that in 2017 when they resigned General Flynn, that's when I had to figure out who was behind that and why. And that's when I started to go down the path of Mike Pence, his chief of staff,

Joshua Pitcock married to Catherine Seaman, who was Peter Struck's senior Russia... Are these real names? Senior Russia analysts. Are these real names? That's their exact names. Tell me the names again? I know. It sounds like a...

I think you're just being nasty. No, no. It's not this kind of, that kind of a program. Okay, so, Pence is... Eric, I'm actually... These are their actual names. I know. I know.

Mike Pence is Chief of Staff during the beginning of President Trump's first term. Yes. Joshua Pitcock. Okay. And the other person? His wife, Catherine Seaman. Take it easy, pal. Okay.

This is important. No. I know this is distracting because of the names. No. But I need you to listen closely. I'm just being childish. His wife was Pete Struck's senior Russia, Russia, Russia analyst. Now, it's so evil.

It's so awful. So now Mike Pence, you know, years ago I thought of him as a friend, because many of us were just, you know, drifting along, just, you know, had no idea of what we're dealing with here. And again, there's levels of evil, right? I don't know. I really don't know the details on Mike Pence, but you started to see that they had put in place in a sense. sense people to prevent Trump from enacting the will of the people. Both senior leaders of the political parties in America saw General Flynn as the only person clean enough with an understanding of the entire ecosystem to completely expose it and literally with one flush drain the swamp.

So they had to get rid of them. They had to remove them. And they had to fool them. had to fool Donald Trump, which they did. And they did. They were successful, and there may be somewhat still elements of that, trying to continue to fool President Trump. Because, again, Trump was not the man he is today. He was not awake to all of this evil.

And like most Americans, he kind of thought, well, you know, I want to play with both sides. And I want to be unifying for it. He had no idea what he was dealing with. And so when they... And the only one in his ecosystem that did, because his family doesn't know D.C., Yeah, right? Yeah. His business associates, as he built his businesses,

have no touch point in understanding of Washington, D.C. The only person in that ecosystem was, and remember, 65% of Republicans in the primary in 2016 voted for somebody else, not Donald Trump. And so when he won the nomination, it was the RNC that said, hey, we'll support you as long as you take Mike Pence as the vice president. Right.

Our guy. Right. right our guy meaning Paul Ryan's guy right Mitch McConnell's guy right right

Reince Previs's guy right um it's a dark story but it gets but it gets better because we're sitting here now on the other side of this

and uh it's gonna get better we're awake to it and uh we see what's what's going on if people want to know this story what's the best place

is the general General Flynn film, is that a good place for people to get them? The fastest shortcut for people that don't know about the deep state is literally, you watch the movie Flynn Deliver the Truth, whatever the cost. Actually, you know what? Flynn deliver the truth. What's the name of the film? Because I've watched it, but I can't think of it now. Flynn, deliver the truth, whatever the cost.

All right, we're going to go to a break. I think I have. We'll be right back. One for you. Talking to a DVD with actually bonus footage from Tucker Carlson. No, I've said. Evan Nunes. We'll be right back.

We'll be right back. Talking to Ivan Reiklin. All right, so let's just keep going. Let's keep going. So Trump gets in office. The deep state, as we know, I didn't even know the term deep state until, you know, they stole the 2020 election. I didn't believe it either.

2016, I'm still in the system. No, I was going to say. As I started looking at it, absolutely. Yeah. I attended every hearing that General Flint had. Okay, but let's go back. So in 2016, Trump's elected, 2017, they decide they need to get rid of Flynn. So they do this, I mean, we don't need to get into it, but he's framed, basically.

They use Jeff Sessions, I don't think Jeff Sessions is an evil person. I think a lot of people were fooled and used, you know, and so they used Jeff Sessions. He accuses himself, blah, blah, blah, blah. Next thing you know, Flynn is out. The morning of the inauguration, January 20th, 2017, I was invited to the church service at St. John's across the street from the White House. Who did I sit next to in the pew, General Flynn? And I was so happy that this man is going to be served in our country, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And a little while later, suddenly he's out. But again, nobody really knew what hit him. Trump had no clue. I mean, Trump was still flying blind, basically. It took him, you know, through his whole tour. term really to realize. I would submit that the reason why he was blind is because I strongly believe that Mike Pence had an instrumental role in the removal of General Flynn. And one of the reasons why I say that, I can't recall his name, but one time, I think I'm going to disclose this

maybe for the first time with this level of specificity on your show. A few years back, when, well, during his first term, one of the attorneys for Mike Pence, at the Trump International Hotel was speaking with me, and he said the most adamant, vocal, and aggressive that he has ever seen his boss, Mike Pence, was when he was advocating to Donald Trump to fire General Flynn. That's awfully interesting. Why is that?

Well, obviously. Is that because General Flynn was going to do an audit of the entire intelligence community to include what's known as president, presidential findings, all of the authorized covert actions of the C. Laia, which would then implicate the Bush family, because one of them was the C. Laii director, Brennan, the Clintons, Obama, all previous presidents would then be under scrutiny for authorized. So I just want to fast forward a little bit because so they had to take him out.

We now know that they had to take him out. They took him out. And Brendan called it Take the Kill Shot. Where did he say that? Where do you say that? There's a quote of him sending to the media,

maybe the Washington Compost, I like to call it, or the New Woke Slimes. I can't roll it all exactly, but I remember that direct quote. Let's take the kill shot. But the bottom line is they get rid of Flynn and they cripple Trump's presidency.

The four years of his presidency, he was infinitely less effective than he might have been because he had no idea what was going on around him and why I can't build the wall. I can't do all this stuff because they're crippling me. They're crippling me with the Russia collusion nonsense, all this and stuff.

Okay. Texas is 2020. They steal the election. COVID lunacy, on and on and on. Okay. So by the grace of God alone, Trump is on the verge of getting back in office. What happens now? What do you do?

What does General Flynn do? Maybe you can't speak to that. But what do you see as possible to do? Because you know that the dark forces, they don't want this to happen. They're not going to be like, oh, yeah, like, you know, we lost, and now we're going to take our lumps. They're going to fight, you know, they're going to want to assassinate anybody's going to get going to get in the way. We're going to another break, folks. In hour two, in a couple of minutes, we continue the conversation.