The Eric Metaxas Show - Ivan Raiklin (Encore Continued)

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

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Folks, welcome back. We are now in what I like to call Hour 2, because it follows Hour 1, very logically. I'm talking to Ivan Rakeland, and this is heavy stuff. So, Ivan, let's keep going. I was just going to say, What do we do now because you're taking your clothes off? What is happening here?

Look at this. Keep asking you the question because my answer is about to be shown to the video audience. You just took off. You had a nice suit jacket on a nice shirt. You've just taken them both off in order to show us your T-shirt. All right. What is the gray bag? I don't know.

There's a gray bag. It's underneath you. Here. It's right there. It's right there. So I'm asking you. So now, you know, here we have. are what's what's going to happen what what's your thinking what what's your uh you you you you seem to be

of the mind that it's possible to get some uh some action here to to to take care of business well you're absolutely right and the answer to your question oh you got to take off the headphones okay so ladies and gentlemen this is uh if you're not watching on video iven has just put on a new shirt and it says oh i like it He's just putting a t-shirt on top of the other t-shirt. And this t-shirt says, Department of Retribution, legally, morally, ethically. Okay.

So this is pretty good. And on the back, oh, my gosh, folks, on the back of the shirt, it says Retribution Tour. All right. I'm going to get a picture of this. We'll post it. This is crazy. This is crazy.

All right. Read the categories. Okay, Categories. General Flynn unmasking. Second category, crossfire hurricane team. Third category, Biden laptop. Fourth category, impeachment hoax one, impeachment hoax two, 2020 election, January 6, COVID-19, pandemic.

And underneath each of these things on your shirt, sounds crazy, is a list of names. And it looks like you're fixing to go after these folks one by one. And we're not talking about, you know, wet work. We're not talking about killing these people. We're talking about bringing them to justice under the laws of the United States of America, which is exactly that is justice. To them it's going to look like retribution, but it's justice. And this is for the American people.

We need to have justice in this country and what these folks have done. But the question is, you know, after I get over laughing at this shirt, because this is like so delightful. Oh, yeah. But so what, listen, I just want to be. real clear, Ivan, lest you aren't clear on this. You're doing God's work. You want God to be with you in this. He's the God of justice. And this is not about, we can kind of laugh about retribution. But the reality is, this is, this is, this is about restoring America to we the people. And these wicked actors.

Restoring the constitutional order that was intended when this country was founded and the constitution was passed? And that patriots have. died for to protect. So, I mean, these wicked folks that have done these things, we are here now, and by God's grace, many, many, many Americans are aware of the corruption and aware of the evil and the lies and whatever. So the question is, what are we going to do? Now, Trump, of course, first we had to get Trump reelected. By God's grace, he's reelected. But what happens now? Because what you just showed me on this shirt? What are the steps? And obviously they're going to to try to stop you. So what's going on? So like we started off,

My understanding of the ecosystem of the censorship industrial complex was created from the East Coast and the West Coast, as Mike Benz is very intimately familiar with. I'm not sure if you had. I've never met Mike Benz, but I'm aware of him, yeah. So having that dual bicostal professional background that I have in relationships, we had to figure out who was doing what to be able to provide top cover to create the narrative that the stolen election wasn't as such, right? the whole censorship. I'm not going to recap that because I think at this point, Michael Schellenberger, Taibi, Elon Musk has allowed for some of that to really be disclosed. So now that the country sees what occurred at scale, and the reason why we know that is because President Trump won, we now have to continue down the path of exposing it, right? Because I still think that there are many Americans out there that still believe in the hype of the mainstream media censorship. Totally, right? Totally. I mean, there's many conservatives that still believe in that.

There's many people on Fox News that still believe in that. The consent of the government that they tried to do was manufactured by censorship and fraudulent elections. Well, that can't take place anymore because Elon Musk has literally opened up the spigot of free speech. And while that continues to grow, it allows us to then change the understanding of the court of public opinion. the American jury pool to explain to the American jury pool that hey guess what you were lied to on every single front

the reason why there's a maha movement is because so many people like I said earlier observed for themselves reality that is not congruent what is being reported by the lying media and then that physical observation

through your own five senses not congruent with what they're pushing the pushback continues because there's warriors in each movement, the RFKs, the Tulses, and so on and so forth. And as that is coalescing, and as we're able to give our argument with evidence, we are now able to change the psyche of the jury pool to believe that safe and effective wasn't so. Right.

To understand that January 6th was actually a Fed surrection. I could probably do a three-hour deep dive just on that category of loan of, of who was involved from Pelosi on down to every individual U.S. Capitol Police Board member, U.S. Capitol Police officer, three hours I did with a podcaster called Alpha Warrior, where we stepped through the jurist, the legal framework of how Pelosi and Schumer ran that Fed'surrection, down to the individuals. I want to have you back on this program to talk about that. I don't want to get into it now because I want to stay at this level. And if I may, that Fed'surrection,

was kind of like the closing salvo to solidify the cover, what I call the cover-up after escalatory cover-up. This whole arc of corruption started with the illegal, the 2014 component, right? Yeah. The removal of Flynn, the spying on Flynn, the 39 that unmasked Flynn. One of them was Sarah Raskin, Jamie's wife.

Tell my audience who is Jamie Raskin. Jamie Raskin is the congressman from Maryland that was picked by Nancy Pelosi in 2020 in the summer to wargame how to conduct a parliamentary Fedurrection going into January 6th, but he failed to understand that there was one option that I presented to McCarthy and Pence's chief of staff. Once that was conveyed and Pelosi picked up on it,

they had to facilitate the incited and instigated breach into the Capitol. Eric, we don't have probably time here for that. But see what amazes me. into every single layer and component. We will do this another time, but genuinely. But that was the cover-up, because they had to steal the election to cover up the previous transgressions. Right.

That started off with targeting. But what amazes me, I mean, a lot amazes me here. I'm sort of all about communication, right? Now, this is like if everybody, if something's true, on some level it doesn't matter if nobody knows it's true, right? Correct. And so what you're talking about now, most Americans still don't know about this stuff, including me. I don't know. And even members of Congress that are supposed to have oversight of this particular story, the January 6th at component, Barry Laudermoke, yes, he's doing his best, supposedly.

Yeah. I presented him and his staff with evidence. They just came out with a report three days ago. You heard about it, right? The January's the oversight subcommittee, house admin. And they're like, oh my God, look, patting myself on the back. Look at what we did. We submitted a criminal, a request for criminal investigation of Liz Cheney. Guess what? Punks. And they're going to hate me for saying this because I know these people. It's not sufficient. I'm here to push you to your almost breaking point.

Meaning, you work maximally because we pay you to expose what I've already investigated and exposed. I gave it to you on a silver platter. You don't believe me? We'll go ahead and check it. And then once you check it, then you can say, yes, Pelosi deliberately denied National Guard. Why is that?

Is that because she wanted to stop Pence and Kevin McCarthy from actioning my legal theory on January 6th, which was object by state delegation? And thus we had a 27 to 20 to 3. That was your legal theory? Yes. Holy cow. Hit pause. We'll be right back. Numbers don't lie.

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Now, you just said something. This is a very big deal. You just said that you were the one that presented the idea that Pence had the ability to go back to the states. Is that what you call it? I want you to be, this part, I need full attention because it's very nuanced, okay? I came up with two legal theories, two absolutely separate legal theories that even Jackie, I don't know if I can say this. I like to pronounce a jackass Smith doesn't understand. So the first legal theory applies to the framework under the Electoral Count Act.

Title III U.S. Code of Section 12 under the Electoral Count Act states that if by the Fourth Wednesday of December, the states do not transmit their electors to the seat of government, also known as the President of the Senate or the National Archivist, then it is up to the President of the Senate to send a demand requesting those electors. My argument was that what was transmitted by the, at a minimum of the contested states, but it was actually 39 states that ran their elections illegitimately because they ran them under COVID measures by edict of a non-legislative actor in that state, thus rendering that election illegitimate.

39 states of the 50 due to the COVID rules. But let's just keep it to the six, right? Since those were the only ones contested by the other political candidate, right? Then it would have been it was Mike Pence's responsibility, understanding that

those elections were run illegitimately, to send a demand memo saying that what you transmitted was illegitimate because the underlying election was unconstitutional at the federal level under titles. Okay, so this is in December of 2020.

Yeah. Yes. Okay. Title II, or excuse me, U.S. Constitution, Article 2, Section 1,

Clause 2, states that the legislatures are the ones that allocate the electors for president. But because the legislature

didn't authorize those elections in the manner in which they conducted them, they're rendered illegitimate, and I presented a draft memo.

To whom? For Mike Pence. No, but to whom did you get this memo? I tweeted it, and Donald Trump retweeted it. Okay.

President Trump retweeted this, and it was to Mike Pence, CC, Real Donald Trump, Operation Pence card, and it went into, hey, you send a memo saying that what you transmitted is illegitimate. Run a new election legally, and then determine how to allocate your electors, option one. Option two, have a joint session of your legislative body vote on which electors to allocate, or option three, abstain. That would have fit our constitutional framework. He didn't do that. But just again, to track here, that's the first theory. What did the lawyers around Trump have to say about this? I mean, he had lawyers around him.

He has Rudy Giuliani. He has, you know, Sidney Powell. What, what, did they sign off on this? Did the lawyers around him sign off on these ideas? John Eastman, I think, later picked up on this. Okay. So I was kind of the first one that presented this. Yeah.

And John Eastman picked up on it. I guess, I would say, say it this way. All the other lawyers in the vicinity of the ecosystem of Trump were presenting other theories that I do not subscribe to because I felt as though that they weren't as clean as

the one that I had presented constitutionally. President Trump retweeted that theory. I can't speak on behalf of what I'll say this. The January 6th cover-up committee questioned Giuliani about me. He pled the 5th.

No, he didn't plead the 5th. He said that even if I do know who Ivan is, which he said he couldn't recall, then he says that it would have been attorney-client-privileged communications that he was not going to discuss. Okay. Other folks, let's see here, Ivanka Trump, I think Jared, Mike Pence's attorney, a couple of them, General Flynn, Patrick Burns, Sidney Powell, some other ones were asked if they knew who I was. pretty much all of them said I plead the fifth.

Okay? Now, having said that, my theory was from me, via a tweet presented in a memo that it's still a legal theory that has not been debunked or minimized by Jackass Smith or any of these other

just complete buffoons. The J6 committee never called me in. I told them, I'm 15 minutes away in Alexandria. Bring me in. And I said, under the following, it's live, prime time on all major broadcast channels as you have the following individuals there on the dais while I testify. Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, the U.S. Capitol Police Chief, the head of Intel at U.S. Capitol, the sergeant-in-arms on the house side paul irving the senate sergeant-in-arms michael stenger and i listed who was there that was my tell to them that i know they ran the fedsurrection right and then when i did that publicly

they stopped referencing me and attacking me in the media because at that point i think they realized that i knew how they ran the fedsurrection but that's that's january 6th but the second legal theory that i haven't even gotten to but but but i want to just go back so the idea that that Pence could send this stuff back to the States on January 6th? No, no. Others were articulating that. I don't agree with that legal analysis at all. The opportunity for Mike Pence to send it back to the states

was only on the 4th Wednesday of December under the Electoral Count Act. So you disagree with the idea that he should have done something on January 6th? He has, in order to protect those that have those legal theories, I'm not going to really explain what I really think about that. I just think that the sending it back, the best time to do that under the Constitution would have been December 23rd. Okay, but on January 6th, the best play would have been the fault, which is the second theory, if you want me to. So, Eric, second theory. On January 6th, the best play would have been? January 6th, the best play legally to clean up and shore up.

the illegally transmitted electors that Mike Pence didn't send back was for now the House of Representatives to vote on the objections to the electors of certain states by state delegation. What does that mean? The 12th Amendment lays out that the House, if there's a contingent election, meaning no one gets enough electoral votes, it goes to what's called a contingent election where each state has a representation. So there's 50 votes from the state. Which state are you from again?

New York. And so New York has, I don't know, 27, 28 House members, right? Something like that. Most of them are Democrat. So New York as a state would vote, their one state vote, for the Democrat nominee.

Assuming everyone votes by political party under that construct. On January 6th of 2021, 27 states were Republican. 20 were Democrat. and three were tied up in that delegation framework. So if everybody voted by political party, it would have guaranteed a re-election of Trump

because there's nothing in the electoral count act nor in the 12th Amendment and the Constitution that states how the House body and the Senate votes on the objections to electors. So I said, hey, it's up to Kevin McCarthy to raise, as the leader of the Republican conference, to say, hey, we're not going to vote one person, one vote. by members of the House like Nancy Pelosi wants because she has the majority there.

We're going to vote by state delegation where we have the majority. And so then they would have done that split up into two hours of debate, voted by state delegation. When they reconvened as Mike Pence is the presiding officer, all he, all would have had to done was what's the ruling, he would have said, what's the ruling on the objections? Pelosi or her designee would say it's 222 to 12. and then because one of them one member was dead at the time so we only had 2 3 3 34 and then on the

McCarthy would have stood up and said point of order the actual vote on Arizona is 27 to 20 to 3 and even if the Democrats didn't participate in that vote there were 43 states that had at least one Republican in it meeting the minimum quorum requirement of two

thirds obviously none of this happened whose force is it didn't happen because when Nancy Pelosi heard that was articulating this. Yes. The only option for her to stop, I was on a podcast, kind of getting close to January, so you're telling me because of these theories, because of your theories, Nancy Pelosi realized she had to create this fedsurrection on January 6th,

that they had no other options. Yes, because I even articulate it and somebody said, well, what does Donald Trump mean? when it's going to be wild. Remember when he's put out the tweet? It's going to be wild on January 6th? I interpreted that as if Nancy Pelosi exercised with her maximum authority as a Speaker of the House, she could do the following.

She realizes that she has no play because if McCarthy and Pence basically rules as a tie break instead of ruling in favor of the one-person one vote did they think they were going to do that? Did she think they were going to do that? Do you think they were going to do that? I think so based on the reaction.

Here's why, because I said, if Nancy Pelosi thinks that, Her only play is that she hosts the joint session, and she is the boss of the House Sergeant at Arms that directs the entire law enforcement component who gets in and out and how to create a security posture around the Capitol, right? We're going to go to another break, folks. Don't go away. Why would you? Boy, do I have a great movie for you? The new heart-pounding military thriller, Valiant One,

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deliberate breach of the capital under the authorities of title two u.s code chapter 29 which lays out the U.S. Capitol Police, the Capitol Police Board, particularly two sections apply in this situation. Section 1967, paragraph B lays out the jurisdictional zone of where Pelosi and Schumer in the Capitol Police Board, I should say Mitch McConnell in the Capitol Police Board at the time, have full-stop jurisdiction on discretionary authority for security arrest, right? And then the second paragraph, which is 1979 paragraph B, lays out that it is the capital that decides on the leadership of the legislative branch that decides on what is security footage and what to release.

So under that framework, you can basically politically create whatever you want with no oversight or executive branch action to hold you to account. And what I mean by that is every single January... So January 6 happens. Nancy Pelosi, remember President Trump offered 10 to 20,000 National Guard. Pelosi was working with Millie and the Secretary of the Army, Ryan McCarthy,

in order to say that due to optics, we're not going to have any defense of the capital, due to optics. And Mayor Bowser was in on it as well. What they ended up instead doing is facilitating it. And again, I'm saying this at a very superficial level. I can name you names of those actors, whether it's Ray Epps, whether it's John Sullivan, whether it's some of these other actors, like the CHF. FBICHSs, none of these executive branch affiliates,

whether it's FBI agents, DHS, Metropolitan Police Department, can step foot on the Capitol grounds and then inside of the Capitol without the authority of Pelosi or Schumer. Excuse me, McConnell. We don't need to get into their U.S. Capitol police leadership. I know the names of all of these folks. Because I still, in other words, think about what we're saying here, on a superficial level, your average American knows that, you know, yeah,

something was up, something was going on. But when you really get into it... I assert it was a facilitated, incited, instigated, deliberate breach of the Capitol in order to promote an insurrection narrative to remove Donald Trump from being able to secure a re-election under my theory because they needed to cover up the previous cover-ups that we just discussed of the corruption. Sure. And then now that it buys them four years.

Because what are we... What are they covering up? The Biden criminal syndicate. going back to 2014 with the Ukraine piece and the escalatory escalatory corruption and they increased the level of just lawlessness

to protect themselves the pandemic the Fed'surrection and then what did they do after that the mandated just massive transfer of money with the COVID relief package that was a bribe to everyone that participated in the censorship

with the DEI with the destruction of our constitutional order. Luckily, Elon bought X, and now to finally answer your question about what's moving forward. We are now in a position to educate the country, to demand for whatever you want to call it, accountability, justice, consequences, deterrence, retribution. We have to restore a one-tiered justice system. And if they're going to play by their rules using illegal stuff, we're in a position for Tulsi

Gabbert to declassify everything proving all of this. We are now in a position for Elon Mustin to release to AGs and county DAs and even the federal government FBI and DOJ the direct messages of all these people. I got a 1400

member list known as the Deep State Target list. And I also have their Twitter handles delivered basically in a bow tie to Ken Paxton who was just with you. I just whispered some of this in his ears. other folks

Elon Musk's bottom line here is we are now in a position starting now and then escalating in January 3rd with the House Republican Senate Republican as well as a presidency

on January 20th to go ahead and expose to America what I have been literally fighting to put out to the public for four years now to then create consequences to those because once the American public sees it

what I've investigated you're going to come to the same conclusion. I think I exercise massive restraint. When the American psyche sees what I have seen, I don't think that that restraint is going to be there. I think retribution will be the diplomatic term probably in mid to late January once all of this stuff starts to be released

and the American public starts to learn it for themselves. And how do you think that's going to happen? I mean, when you say, is Trump on board with this? So I think Trump is not, he's not so much in the, he doesn't even need to have a single fingerprint on any of this. So when they say in the media, Ivan Reiklin is Trump's Secretary of Retribution. I've never said or claimed that I'm any way, shape, or form affiliated with President Trump. I'm operating as though, because no one else is doing it. I consider myself America's Secretary of Retribution because no one's stepping up to expose these individuals.

amazing to me. Except for maybe a cash Patel because he created government gangsters. That's only, he has a few categories. That is a good sizable chunk of it. But, you know, that may be phase one, phase two is a little broader list, and then we're going to continue as we continue to further investigate.

But bottom line is, this is, like, the declassification by the Director of National Intelligence, that's an easy thing, right? Tom Holman, what is he going to do? Massive deportations. What stops him in that process of

not accidentally but as tangential capability to roll up some of these 1400 members as part of that deportation op where it may or may not be appropriate but in addition we got to go another break coming right back

talking to Ivan Reiklin talking to Ivan Reiklin okay keep going so you just said something about that Tom Holman doing this massive deportation thing Right. If it's a little bit complex, what I'm laying out here is who are some of the individuals at the federal level can do an easy left so that it gets us quickly to accountability, whatever you want to go. You can declassify, and that's done with the Director of National Intelligence on a lot of these issues of the FBI.

The unmasking of General Flynn, the illegal FISA, all these things, that's transgressions. Tom Holman, as he's rolling folks up to deport them, conducting the biggest mass deportation maneuver in American history, well, that requires law enforcement capability at the federal level. That in conjunction with state attorneys general and law enforcement and county level, we can coordinate all that effort. And in essence, if Trump doesn't want a single fingerprint on retribution, he doesn't need it, nor does the federal government, because now with the top cover of a presidency, the AGs, the 27, 2627 red AGs, and the 2,500 red district's attorneys are now in a position.

They see top cover from an Elon Musk with the mouthpiece and a President Trump. They should feel no fear to conduct lawful consequences and investigations with their sheriff, and they should feel comfortable deputizing me and 80,000 of my closest friends that were kicked out of the military due to the illegal jab mandate as they deputize us those that have decades of experience going after our foreign terrorists to go ahead and action these domestic terrorists.

It's all legal, moral, and ethical, and the country will, they won't support us, they will be demanding it because Elon Musk and Tulsi Gabbard through declassifications is going to release the evidence into the court of public opinion so that we're going to,

have to like hold people back from trying to go vigilante and say hey relax yeah this is going to go through the legal due process for all of these people and then there will be whatever you want to call it whether it sounds like my last name starts with the letter r or with the letter a accountability justice consequences punishment retribution i don't care what you call it i i say retribution so that it Wicks people up. Right. And now I can explain to people what this actually means. Because you've got to get the hook first.

Well, right. But I'm saying, I just want to be clear. We're talking about justice. Right. This is God's justice. This is the patriots have died so that we would have justice in America. And we have had tremendous corruption and evil and injustice. And this is about setting these things to rights.

And so that's going to scare the people you're coming after. But of course, if you've done evil things, you know, you need to be held to account. Some of these people are begging for pardons already. Benny Johnson, right? Lizzie Cheney's that you're going to start seeing all these people on this list, especially after this show. They're going to hear it, see it from their colleagues, right? Yeah. They're going to be begging for pardons from this Biden criminal syndicate. I recommend that the House impeach this Biden criminal syndicate along with a Senate trial, quick one, so that we convict Biden and Harris with the support of Elon Musk with that pressure.

to stop the, what do they call them? The pre-pardons or the... I have no idea. Because if we remove both of them, then they can't pardon these guys. That doesn't seem realistic to me. That doesn't seem realistic to me. I mean, do we have...

Who has the fire to do this kind of stuff? But that's the point. No one has a courage. You don't have enough people. And that's why I'm here. That's... Yeah. They came after me...

Oh, by the way, I didn't even talk about the 20 investigations they did on me to try to take me out while I've been doing all this. across DOJ, DODD-DHS. But the thing is I know people in the system that tip me off on who's investigating me, which means that I have to investigate them,

and I find dirt on every single one of them, and then I let them know that you want to create some false narrative on me? Let's go. Let's go. Because then I'll release everything I have on you. By the way, last thing. The 51 spies who lied, you talked about earlier?

You know, one of them was David Buckley, the Inspector General for John Brennan, guess what he later became. He was not only one of the 51, they appointed him to be the staff director for the January 6th committee. He was the one that created the Patriot Target List that I'm using as precedent

for the Deep State Target List. Thanks, David. You're on it, too, Punk, and I'm personally coming after you. I tell you, this is staggering stuff. Ivan, it's staggering stuff. Just listening to you, because if 25% of what you're saying is true, it's staggering stuff.

If more than that is, no, I mean, it is staggering stuff. I think, I mean, you understand, we've just got two minutes. The folks that are guilty on this, they're not going to sit by and let this happen. So they're obviously working now to do everything they can to stop what you're talking about from happening. I mean, what do you think that they're trying to do right now? Well, one of them, Julie Farnham, just got dual citizenship to Italy and moving to Italy. She's fleeing. Another guy, Metropolitan Police Department officer, Michael Fanon, is in the Blue Ridge Mountains waiting to be swatted and raided

because he thinks that the success rate of us doing this based on what he's observing with my rhetoric and the people that I interact with. And he's right. We're coming for this guy. Or they're asking for pardons. So I think it's creating the necessary impact. But we need to escalate. We can never slow down. We have the free speech nozzle open.

And I think we open up the floodgates even further, and you just allowed me to do it by having me on the show. Well, listen, to me, this is I have a duty to my country if I have a platform to talk about this stuff. And I realize that, you know, I've seen enough. I know General Flynn well enough to know that, again, if any of this is true, let's open it up, let's talk about it, let's see what happens.

And if they've got nothing to hide, let's understand that. But if they do, we need to bring justice. And this gets to what we said before you and I started the program. I was saying that this is about restoring faith in the American people, that they would have faith in their justice system, that they would have faith in their elected officials. If you don't have that, you do not have America. There is no America unless we the people know that we are the government.

It's not there's a government. We are the government and people are accountable. And if you don't have that, if you lose that, America's gone. we've been on the verge of losing that. We've effectively lost it for a season, but we're bringing it back. So this is very, very important. I'm thrilled I got the time with you. If people want to look you up as their place, they can look you up, or do they just

watch the Flynn movie? You can watch the Flynn movie? Look me up on any free speech platform or the website, raiklund.com. I do have what. You might be able to find one of these. R-K-L-I-N. R-K-L-N. And my motto is castrate the deep state.

and then crush the commies. Man. That's heavy. They want to castrate our kids? Guess what? I want to end on a heavy note. Why don't they start with themselves? Rakeland.com, R-A-I-K-L-I-N dot com.

Ivan Reklin. God bless you. Thanks for being on. God bless you, Eric. Thank you for having me on. Chris, I understand you have something to say about the cruise. Yeah, this is weird. I had a weird dream last night, but kind of precipitating this question.

I had this weird dream. that I was on a cruise ship with you for like 10 days in the Mediterranean, visiting Greek sites, talking about Socrates, you know, where's what's happening the future of our country? Suzanne was there, Album was there. It was wild. There were go carts. Is that possible that? Is that possible? Is that something that was dreaming or is that something that I could actually do? That's crazy talk. That is crazy talk. On this program, we don't indulge in crazy talk. Okay. So please. You know what, though? Actually, you got me. You got me. Yes, yes, yes. I admit it. I knew it. I didn't want to bring it up. All the dreams are coming true. The fact of the matter is, turns out June 6th through 16th, we are actually doing a cruise to the Greek islands. They say that. It's not only Greek islands. We're also going to Ephesus. We're going to Istanbul. We start in Athens, which is not an island.

and we end in Athens, which is not an island. But other than that, it's pretty much Greek islands. And I'm going to be speaking on most of my books. It's saying not every night, but almost every night because it's 10 days. I'm going to be giving a lecture on one of my books. And we're going to have fun in the Q&A. If you just wanted to ask me an insane question, if you go on this cruise, we're going to have plenty time. You can ask me three insane questions.

It's going to be fun. I love that. I have to say, I love that. In my dream there was a minotar. Is there any possibility of the mythical creatures from the Greek myths will show up or not so much? In these topsy-turvy times, Chris, who's to say what could or couldn't happen? Anything can happen. I do know that we will be going to Crete.

That's one of the last stops on the cruise. And that, I have to say, I think I'm the most excited about Crete. We're going to go to Connaos, which is where the myth of the Minotaur originated. And so there's all kinds of stuff. The Minoan civilization, bulls were a big deal. And the Minotaur is kind of like this bull-like creature. It is all kinds of stuff. But we're going to go to Crete.

And that's where the fabled labyrinth at Connoisseau was, where the Minotaur was at the center of the labyrinth. We may not actually get to meet a Minotaur. But, you know, we'll try. We'll try. Pray about it. Pray about it. And we'll see.

Now, look, if people are interested in coming on the cruise, June 6th through 16th, go to Eric Mataxis.com slash cruise. You got to spell Cruz correctly, otherwise you won't get there. It's C-R-U-I-S-E. It's not like Ted Cruz. It's not like Penelope Cruz. It's Cruz, C-R-U-I-S-E, Eric Mataxis. com slash cruise.

All the information is there. Albin is coming on the cruise. There is a, John Zemirak is coming. By the way, there is a three-level go-kart track on the top of the ship. So I don't know about you, but that's what I'm doing like every morning at 7 a.m. I think. I think.

Can you bring ice cream on the go-cart? Like, you know, can you- Who's going to stop you, Chris? Who's going to stop you? There's no company. Do what you want. It's between you and your God. But listen, this is fun.

So it's Ericmontaxis.com slash cruise. But also we've just added in case, you know, you want to add on to it. There's three days in Athens before the cruise. So that's all available at ericomtaxas.com slash cruise. You can look it up. But even if you go like, let's say you can't come on the cruise, you could just do the three days in Athens if you want. So that's, anyway, we're actually going to have a Socrates in the city event in Athens, which is the home of Socrates. So it's kind of kind of on the nose.

But I have to say I'm looking forward to it. It is, it's unavoidably exciting. And I keep saying that. But I have to say, I'm just, I can't believe this is happening. So it's only a few months away. So I'm exercising. I want to look buff in case people see me at the pool. I don't want to be embarrassed.

So, you know, I'm going the other way. I want people to stop and be like, man, he really let himself go. He let himself go. Whatever happened to Chris. Okay, fortunately for the audience, we're out of time. Ericman, Texas.com slash crude.