The Eric Metaxas Show - James Agresti
Episode Date: October 12, 2022James Agresti of JustFacts.com has the goods on Hunter Biden -- as well as The Big Guy -- with obvious email evidence found on the infamous "Laptop from Hell." ...
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James is
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that deals with current events
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about the Biden's
corruption
about China
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And hopefully we'll get into the faith thing.
But this is a guy that deals with just facts.
That's why the website is just facts, whether it's faith or whether it's, you know,
the facts of what's going on in our country right now.
So he's an amazing resource.
So that's coming up.
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Welcome back.
As I explained in the introduction, my guest for this hour, really just thrilled to have him.
James Agresti. He's the head of something called JustFacts. James, welcome.
Eric, thanks for having me.
Now, listen, explain to my audience what is Just Facts because, and by the way, what's the website?
Sure. So the website or one of them is JustFacts.com. That's our main website. And we are an institute
dedicated to publishing rigorously documented facts about public policies.
and teaching research skills, which seem to be a lost art in this day and age,
where fake news just spreads like wildfire.
So justfacts.com.
I want people to know that they can go there at any time.
And there's so much stuff there.
But really what I want to talk to you about today is the idea that Hunter Biden is finally,
it seems, going to be held accountable for what looked to be,
like skyscraping crimes against America, a level of corruption that is out of, you know,
the Borgia Popes. This is so corrupt and so sick. And of course, it was oppressed by the media,
which is really what makes it so horrible. And that's why independent journalists, folks like you
at Just Facts.com, are having to do the work that used to be done by journalists in America,
used to be done by the New York Times and the Washington Post.
They don't do that anymore.
So let's talk about that.
And let me just say you obviously, even though you're in Houston,
where I'm going to see you tomorrow,
you are from this neck of the woods.
I can tell from your accent, from your voice.
I grew up in Northburg, in New Jersey.
So yeah, that's where I picked up this accent,
which horribly people tell me sounds like Anthony Fauci.
Well, can I tell you something?
Coming out of your mouth, it sounds nice.
Don't let the turkeys get you down by bringing up Fauci.
Okay, so let's talk about justfacts.com.
You get into what is happening now,
because I haven't talked about it on this program with regard to Hunter Biden
and the folks who have been investigating him,
it never was clear to me whether folks were investigating him
or looking the other way.
Give us the story.
I know there was an article in the New York Post,
which still does some actual journalism.
Yes.
So I want to say also this is much broader than Hunter Biden.
This goes straight to the big guy.
And in investigating this matter,
which I agree, the media has not only failed to investigate,
but has actually repressed it.
And then when I say the media,
that includes the so-called fact-checkers
and the social media tycoons,
the Facebooks, the Twitters of this world,
have actively suppressed this story.
And the other people who should be doing this kind of investigation
and have not is the FBI.
The FBI has had Hunter Biden's laptop for years.
And what I was able to discover,
just searching through it
and doing some keyword searches,
is utterly incriminating. It's enough for the FBI right now to take Joe Biden in handcuffs out of the
White House. Okay. Now, what you just said, folks, you know me, you know this program. Imagine
what James Agresti just said, who has the documents to back it up. And as you'll get to know
James and justfacts.com, you'll realize this is not hyperbole. This is a level of criminality and
corruption that is unknown in our time. It is against everything we believe in as a people,
against everything the founders stood for when they risked their lives to make an independent
nation. It is against everything we have supposedly stood for for 250 years. And what's the
worst part? Is it that these evil people are doing these things or that the media
have allowed it that the FBI and other governmental institutions that we rely on to do their job,
that they haven't done their job.
When the laptop came out, you know, in October of 2020, James, and it was labeled as Russian
disinformation, I thought to myself, there are levels of insanity and corruption and horror.
It's one thing to say that, well, I really hate Trump and I love Biden.
And I don't think we should pay attention to this nonsense, you know.
But when you actually get people to sign papers and saying, no, we're calling this Russian disinformation, it is, it is so brazen as a lie that it's hard for me to process that people.
in positions of authority, not only bought that lie, but pushed it out there.
We know that's complete nonsense.
I mean, I think anybody paying attention at the time knew it was nonsense.
But I knew when the media spiked this story, I said, that's how I know we've gone
through the looking glass, because you can talk about all kinds of bad stuff, but to take
a story that is as big as it possibly gets.
I mean, even comparing it to Watergate is a joke.
It's in another universe from Watergate.
And to have all of the so-called legacy media ignore this assiduously and tell you to shut up about it,
it's just that's when I knew we're no longer in the America that I grew up in.
And if we don't fight with everything we have right now, whatever we thought was going on,
that's gone.
So, you know, you just said something that triggers me.
here, but I mean, I know you have the facts. And again, it's justfacts.com. That's your organization.
But talk about some of the things that you discovered independently that you say are enough
to take Joe Biden out of the White House. Sure. So back in 2014 when Joe Biden was
vice president of the United States, a Ukrainian energy firm, the largest natural gas producer in Ukraine
hired Hunter Biden and his business partner to serve on their board of directors paying them each $83,000 a month.
So when news of this broke, people ask the obvious question, why?
Why would this company be paying this guy, this money, this insane amount of money that most people don't make in a year in a month for sitting on a board, which oftentimes, you know, I'm sure you're on nonprofit boards,
that's something you don't even get paid for in many cases.
You serve as the interest of the company or the interest of the organization.
So I discovered emails that explain exactly why,
because they came from an executive of that company to Hunter Biden and his business partners,
and they're explicit.
And let me add this to what you're saying, Eric, about our website.
This particular store, we have several websites.
This one is on our website, justfaxdaily.com.
And if you click into this article, you'll see it on a smoking gun emails.
You won't just find the perfunctory hyperlinks and links to say news stories.
You will find links to the primary source documents.
I'm talking about Hunter Biden's bank records.
We've got it all.
We've got it all lined up.
The exact emails.
You can read the whole thing in context.
So I'm going to condense these emails, but the key words, the incriminating words I'm using, are direct quotes from the emails.
So the executive of this energy firm wrote to Hunter and his partners, let's remember here what the true purpose and the ultimate purpose of our arrangement is and all of our joint efforts.
it is to get high-ranking U.S. officials to pressure leaders in Ukraine to drop all criminal
charges against the company's owner, who was a notoriously corrupt oligarch by the name of
Nikolai Zolachewski. I'm sure I'm butchering the pronunciation of the last name, but that's, you know,
how I read it. So Tucker Carlson revealed this email back in October 2020 when the laptop was
still out, and there was all this accusation of Russian disinformation, and Tucker put a big caveat on it.
He said, look, he goes, I'm not sure this laptop is authentic. I'm just airing it for the sake of
this is what we have right now. Let's roll with it. But be aware it might not be true.
That's no longer the case. It is true. Everybody knows it. It's been authenticated through people
who received emails from it. It's been authenticated through computer experts. Even the New York Times
recently admitted it, buried something like 14 paragraphs deep in a story, they said, oh, by the way,
we verified these emails are accurate. Okay. Now, what I did, when that came out is I started
searching for, I want the proof. I wanted to dig, and I started searching for that exact email,
which I could not find. I kept digging and digging and digging until finally I got my hands on
all the emails and pumped to Biden's laptop. And when we come back, when we come back, folks,
You're responsible for this information.
It will be on the test.
I'm talking to James Agresti.
You can go to justfacts.com or justfactsdaily.com.
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I'm talking to James Agresti.
Who is the head of JustFacts?
You can go to JustFacts.com or JustFactsDaily.com to look into what we're talking about.
At the end of the last segment, James, you were talking about links to these e-mails.
we now know, everyone knows, that there was no Russian disinformation, that we have been living
in a world of lies that keeps talking about Russia, that keeps, it'll talk about anything
except the facts on the ground, which point to a level of corruption by Hunter Biden
and his father that is, it should make us blush as Americans. This is,
like capturing Benedict Arnold. You just realize, oh my goodness, it's real. This is earth-shaking
information. So now we have this information. We've had it, even when Tucker Carlson says,
well, we're not sure. We knew, but he wanted to be, you know, over-scrupulous in a sense.
So now we know. And what happens now? Continue along the lines that you were talking
along just a moment ago. So these new emails I've uncovered contain Hunter Biden's and his
partners reply to that email from the Ukrainian energy firm. And they're amongst themselves and then
back to the energy firm. So they got this email saying, hey, we need you to get your high-ranking
U.S. officials to come to the Ukraine and pressure these Ukrainian officials to drop the charges
against Hunter's Sugar Daddy because that's who he was. He was giving Hunt. He was giving
Hunter and his partner, $166,000 per month.
We need you to do this.
So the email comes in and hunters and his partners start exchanging emails amongst themselves.
And one of them says, yes, please tell them we are not naming the U.S. officials who are going to apply this pressure to Ukraine to be on the safe and cautious side.
Then they said between each other, Hunter, you're the only one who can close this deal, who can make this happen.
Then Hunter replies to the group and the Ukrainian energy firm saying, we can deliver on this?
We can deliver on this.
Think about that.
We, me, Hunter Biden, can get U.S. officials to press the Ukrainian officials to drop criminal charges against the company's owner.
and I look forward to getting started on it.
I mean, we're now in a position where we are supporting Ukraine in a war against Russia.
Folks, do you understand how corrupt this is?
This is your billions and billions and billions of your tax dollars, not helping you here,
but helping them there.
And the corruption is clear.
All that's unclear are some of the details.
of this. But the idea that you have the man in the White House overseeing this kind of criminal
empire, we now know it. And where are things now? Because I do know that the Post and others,
James, have said that it looks like they're going to do something about this. But I mean,
you know, most people get it pretty cynical because they haven't done anything about anything.
We're waiting and waiting and waiting years and years and years and nobody seems to pay any
price. What do you think is possible? So I think it looks like a slap on the wrist at this point.
And ultimately, that would cover up Joe Biden's involvement in this. Because one month after Hunter
Biden said, I look forward to getting started on this, Joe Biden actually traveled to Ukraine
and did exactly what those emails specified. And he did it with our taxpayer money. He told that
the president of that nation and the prime minister, if you do not fire this prosecutor,
you are not getting U.S. taxpayer support. It was a billion dollar loan guarantee at the time.
And shortly thereafter, that prosecutor who was actively pursuing Hunter's cash cow got fired.
And this is Joe Biden's own words. And I have the court documents showing that that prosecutor
had actually secured permission to seize the oligarchs,
hunters' benefactor, houses, his Rolls Royce, some property.
So what Joe Biden did here is he actively facilitated in textbook definitions
of bribery and obstruction of justice.
And the worst part of it is not just what an affront that is to all decent,
hardworking people and to have a man at the head of the United States who was
involved in this, but this makes him vulnerable to extortion and blackmail. You don't think the
Chinese don't have this information? You don't think the Russians don't have this information?
Our enemies know this. And this guy has been involved in things that compromise him, and now he
holds the levers of power to push a nuclear button or give China a trade deal, which he's done,
or to open up the pipeline to Russia like he did. And I should clarify something here, Erica.
about the situation with Ukraine.
This was a previous administration
that was actually hostile to the current one.
So you cannot say, based on this evidence,
that the current administration was implicit in this.
In fact, when the current administration came in,
what they did is they fired Joe Biden's prosecutor.
Now, why do I call him Joe Biden's prosecutor?
Because he also said publicly,
they replaced the guy I wanted fired,
with somebody who was solid.
He said the guy was solid.
Let me tell you what the solid guy did, Joe Biden's guy.
He dropped all criminal charges against Hunter's benefactor.
He prosecuted no one of note in three years in office.
He was the best man of the president at the time.
He'd done two stints in jail.
Hang on.
Got to go to a break.
Folks, this is happening right now.
Please go to JustFacts.com.
Check it out.
We'll be right back.
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You can check it out, justfacts.com, JustFactsdaily.com.
The corruption, James, it is unlike, it's the kind of thing that they make movies about,
like Chinatown, you know, starring Jack Nicholson.
And throughout American history, we've made films about just the deep levels of corruption and how heroes go up against it.
But to have it in the White House, it's mind blowing.
It's absolutely mind blowing.
And even you just now said, you don't think anything's going to come with this.
You don't think if the Republicans gain power in the House in November or in November.
next year. You don't think that they're going to do anything about this? I think they will,
but their power is limited. Hey, the Republicans held Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.
But nothing happened to him because the Obama administration was running the Department of Justice
and only they can seek that indictment and go after him and say, hey, listen, you know,
we're going to jail you here for breaking the law. Until and unless you get a Republicans who are
principled and own the White House. When I say own it, I mean occupy it as elected representatives.
And they're actually carrying out what they promise to do. Nothing can really come up this unless
people rise up and the people in politics have to pay an electoral price for basically ripping us
off, ripping off the world and sullying our nation. Well, as I say, it's hard to process because
Because, again, you know, I always, I want to go back.
The founders tried to give us a republic in which we would never have career politicians.
It would be like Cincinnati at his plow.
People would serve for a season.
But Joe Biden is the ultimate example of somebody for a half a century in power,
learning the ropes to profit.
And the corruption gets deeper and deeper with every year and every decade until this man,
gets the White House by any means necessary. The evil there is astonishing. We don't even
to get into that. But this man has a record in power using that power for his own advancement,
not for why he's supposed to have the power. He's supposed to be given this power by the American
people to represent them, whether as vice president or it.
And there's a deep cynicism here.
But it's in both parties.
Again, the idea that most Republicans do not have the guts to go after this.
Clearly Donald Trump did, and it's why he's enemy number one, because he had the guts.
He wanted to drain the swamp.
He saw this kind of thing.
And they thought, we've got to shut him down.
We'll do anything we can.
We will demonize him forever until we make it impossible for him.
to do anything about this, which is effectively where we are now.
Yeah, they actively defied him.
We have proof of that that the general, the Joint Chiefs of Staff General, was basically undermining him,
telling his Chinese counterpart, well, something's going to happen.
I'll talk to you first.
I'll give you warning.
You're talking about General Millie.
Yes.
Okay.
Millie is an unbelievable disgrace.
There are many of these folks that they're a disgrace to the uniform, they're a disgrace to the flag,
their behavior is despicable and they need to be held accountable.
And one of the ways they're held accountable is that on programs like this in a country
where we still have pockets of freedom, we get to say that they are traders to the country,
that their behavior is deplorable and despicable and evil.
You need to know, folks, that these people rose in the ranks by doing what they were told,
by not doing what they were supposed to do.
And so somebody like a Millie, who is more animated by his hatred of Donald Trump than by his love of the country.
It's obvious that these people are compromised, but we have an entire government riddled with these folks.
And so again, the question is whether we, the people, will elect representatives and particularly somebody in the White House who will have the courage to go against this, knowing.
really that their lives are on the line.
That's what it is when you fight for liberty.
Yeah.
I mean, our lives are on the line.
Everyone's lives are on the line.
We're dealing with the most powerful nation in the world.
And when you have corruption, misinformation, lies running the day, people get hurt.
All of these things are diversions from reality.
When we start acting in ways that aren't true, we hurt ourselves, we hurt others.
nothing could be more important in this world than this.
Should we stick on the topic of Biden? Is there more on this issue?
I think we've covered it pretty well. If you wanted to jump onto something else, that's fine.
Well, what else is there? You're all over the map at just, justfacts.com. What do you want to talk about? Should we talk about China?
Yeah, let's talk about China.
What do we need to know?
So are we live or you just asking me?
No, no, no.
I'm aware.
This is a...
So back in 2015, the government of China hacked our White House Office of Personnel Management,
which contains the FBI background records on every federal employee, every CIA agent, FBI agent, politician.
And what these guys did has got access to all the compromise about them.
and the Obama Biden administration did absolutely nothing about it.
Then you look at their actions and you see how what they do benefits China and harms the United States.
And you have to ask the question, what do they get, what do they got on them?
So this is plausible, ladies and gentlemen.
In fact, it's extremely probable that China, which we need to be clear, they're evil.
The Chinese Communist Party is evil.
They suppress their own people grotesquely, horrifically.
They murder them.
Why do you think they wouldn't do anything they could to gain more power?
And if that means blackmailing Americans, getting dirt on Americans, setting Americans up, of course, they've got spies here.
We know that Eric Swalwell dated one of them.
This is, you know, the definition of an evil empire.
and they're going to do anything they can.
And if you have people that are willing to play ball,
if you have corrupt people like President Obama and Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton,
boy, you are in hog heaven.
And the communist Chinese have taken full advantage.
When we come back, more on that with James Agresti.
You can go to JustFacts.com.
Folks, welcome back.
We continue our conversation with James Agresti.
who's in Houston, even though he sounds like he's from Jersey,
because he is from Jersey, but he's currently in Houston,
where I will be tomorrow for a Socrates and the City event with Dr. James tour.
You can go to Socratesandicity.com.
I doubt there's still tickets, but if you're in the area, you don't want to miss this one.
All right. So we were just talking about the Chinese and how it seems obvious, James,
that they had the goods on the Obama administration,
that they had leverage and that our officials have been corrupted and that the evil communists in China
were using that leverage.
Some of the actions of the Obama administration and the Biden administration are hard to
explain in any way.
When you look at the trade deals that they negotiated and how they benefited China
and harmed our nation,
just across the board militarily.
And by the way, this goes back to the Clinton administration.
Back during his time, there was a giant scandal.
Many people forget it.
It's called Chinagate, in which a bunch of Chinese businesses and individuals
were donating large sums of cash to the Democratic National Committee.
And the worst in all this, talk about the implications of something horrible.
There was a company, there is a company called LaRou.
It was paying China, Chinese companies.
to launch their satellites into space.
And what would happen is those, the Chinese rockets at the time were highly unreliable.
So LaRalle gave them the technology to make these rockets reliable.
They diagnosed the problem and said, hey, fix this, this, and this, and you're not going to be blowing up our satellites.
Well, the problem is those same rockets used, that same technology used to deliver satellites
is also used to deliver intercontinental ballistic nuclear missiles.
nuclear missiles. So what they did is effectively gave China a massive military edge, and they were
under investigation. And Bill Clinton stepped in and basically killed the whole investigation
after LaRalle made a donation. I forget the exact amount. I think it was in excess of $600,000
to the Democratic National Committee. So these are not abstract things where we're furious and
That's horrible. It's, it makes me mad. But what does it really matter? This matters. People's lives are
on the line. They're they're equipping an evil regime with the technology to kill people.
Well, what I don't understand is it's not like we don't have Republicans in Congress who have the ability to do something about this.
What do you make of that? Well, I don't want to get conspiratorial here, but let me.
me say this, the Chinese office hacker, the Office of Personnel Management in 2015 didn't
just get information on the Democrats or the Obama White House.
They got information on everyone in government.
So I am sure there are people compromised on both sides.
We've seen that.
We've seen cases where people are being prosecuted for helping the Chinese in various situations.
But also, it's very hard.
They are limited in their power.
They can't prosecute as a Republican Congress.
Only the Department of Justice can do that.
And the Department of Justice can't do it unless they get the bureaucrats in there to do their jobs.
Okay, so Bill Barr...
They resist to Trump every step of the way.
Okay, so Bill Barr, when he was in there, you're saying he couldn't do much?
I think he was limited by what the bureaucrats would do, the deep state would do in the Department of Justice.
There's been stories about them slow walking and...
investigations, right? The Biden laptop was retrieved by the FBI, was given to the FBI. I'm trying
to remember the time frame. Late in 2019, so this is before the 2020 election. There are emails
showing that the Department of Justice, then under the control, I think of Bill Barr, but definitely
the Trump administration, decided we're going to wait to investigate this because we don't want to
alert the public to its existence in the middle of a presidential election. That's pure politics.
You know what? Hang on. We're going to go to a break, folks, in hour two more with James
Registry.
