The Eric Metaxas Show - Jeanine Pirro and David Horowitz

Episode Date: August 3, 2020

Jeanine Pirro, personal friend of the president for over 30 years, shares thoughts on what's happening in the streets of America; then, David Horowitz talks about what's going on with the suppression of his new Trump-positive book, "Blitz."

You know, sometimes Eric pretends to be interested in his guest. But he's really just doing a crossword puzzle and rolling his eyes at what they say. He told me never to say that ever. But look, I made a mistake. Oh, I'm human. In my way. Only I'm not. And now you're a host, Eric Mataxis.

Folks, welcome the program. This is the Eric Mataxis show. I want to tell you, folks, every now and again, we have long, thoughtful conversations on this program. but sometimes I'm just in the mood to book a hothead. Somebody like me who, you know, just wants to sound off. And I thought, maybe we could get John Zmirak. And then I thought, wait a minute, maybe we could get David Horowitz. And then I thought, no, no.

Before we talk to them, what if I could get Janine Piro? Everybody in the establishment said, never happened. She won't do it. Well, I have a surprise for you. I got Janine Piro. Janine, welcome to the program. Good morning. First of all, I love you. And I don't know why you wouldn't be able to get me. I just finished working out, as you can see. I mean, you call. I am there immediately.

Look, you know how much I love you. You cracked me up. And that's kind of my highest compliment for people, right? Because you've got this fire and stuff. And I thought, I love the fact. I just called you up and he said, let me run upstairs and put on a blouse. And I thought, you know what? I need to up my game. So I decided to put on a shirt as well. and I just want to say thank you for calling me higher. You know what I'm saying? Sartorial speaking. Now, I want to talk to you about what's going on in our country. Not everyone in the world watches your show on the weekend, but you are, you've been a clear

voice for a long time, and you've known Donald Trump personally for like four decades. You know this guy as a New Yorker. So Janine Piro, Judge Piro, what do you see going on in America? Where is this going to go? Well, you know, I see, like everyone else, Eric, and let me say, I'm delighted to be with you this morning. And it's rare that, you know, I'll just jump up and from my workout and say, it's Eric, absolutely.

I think that America is really at a crossroad. And I think that most people are just not happy. So the question is why. Well, you know, there's a side that says, you know, we believe in law and order. And there are certain requirements in our civilization that we have to follow. And there are others who say, let's just tear at the hell. down. And, you know, obviously I'm on the right side and ideologically. And I also think, you know, politically and religiously and everything else. But Donald Trump is someone who you've

indicated that I've known for over 30 years. He is a man who is a good human being. He's not the caricature that people try to make him out to be. He's a good father. I've seen him with his kids, when his kids were little. I flew with him for years when my then husband represented him. Our kids were little. We used to fly every weekend down to Florida. And I would hear him say to his kids, you know, you don't

talk to her like that. You don't talk to him like that. You know, Eric Don Jr. And Ivanka, obviously. And he would say to them, I'll never forget. I will never forget Eric the time when he said, you know, when we land, we're going to Kmart to get the school supplies. And I'm just sitting there

reading, you know, and I'm like, keeping my eyes on what I'm reading, I'm saying, did Donald Trump just say he's going to Kmart for his school school school? You know, he's a regular guy who imposed regular, you know, punishments. He would say, you know, you're not getting your allowance this week because of the way you talk to him or her or whatever. So here he is, as president of the United States, and he is really someone who believes in law and order. And for some reason, that concept is infuriating to the left. And so the left is tearing apart the cities. They're burning, looting, and they're being called peaceful protesters. You know, the guy who's in the bunker, Joe Bunker Biden, I call him, is not really out there saying anything

other than, you know, I'm going to, I'm going to cause change here. I mean, the guy's been there for 40 years. He hasn't done a darn thing that I know of and everything I hear he's done has been wrong. But be that as it made. To me, that's not even the issue. It's not even the issue between the two men. What it is, Eric, is it's between those of us who believe in capitalism, free markets, the right of the individual to conduct themselves, to have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and within that includes your right to work, take care of your family, and your right to your religion. And on the left is, yeah, we'll pay you some more money. Stay at home. Don't worry about it. Lockdown. Little learned helplessness. It'll be good for you. We'll go right into socialism.

And, you know, those people don't believe you're lying eyes. They're not looting and emptying out those stores into their SUVs that they just backed up to the front of the stores. They're peaceful protesters. And let's defund the cops. And that way, you know, we'll put their hands behind their backs and nobody can be arrested. And we're in a mess. I guess. I have to say that the one piece of this puzzle that makes it, to use a legal term, I'm not a lawyer, but dispositive, I guess, is the media. In other words, if it were possible for us to have this craziness going on, but we had a media that was covering it as it actually happens, even if they had sympathy for some of this going on, if they were left leaning, but if they actually

covered what was happening, it changes everything. The fact that we have now gotten to a point where we don't have enough conservative media, you know, Fox News and OAN or whatever isn't enough to combat the tidal wave, the ocean of media that has decided that they're going to look the other way. That's what strikes my mind as being at the heart of the issue right now, is that people, good people, if you don't know enough, you would be fooled. Absolutely. And, you know, it's one of the things, Eric, that I talked about on my show this weekend. And that is that you have to really rely on your gut instincts because you've got people telling

you this, people telling you that, and nobody's giving it to you straight. You've got to listen to both sides and see what makes sense to you. If you see American burning, you see federal agents who are having lasers aimed at them, because they're protecting a federal courthouse in Portland, and they're blinded now, permanently blinded by the left, the peaceful protesters. And if you want to buy into that, these are peaceful protesters, and the federal agents are, you know, these horrible people, well, then what rings true to you?

Does that ring true to you? It's like we say to our kids when they're growing up, you know, honey, sometimes you have to rely on your gut instinct. Because everything that we're hearing today, by the mainstream media, and by everyone else is, we're looking at it through these, you know, rose-colored glasses that are impacted by politics, by economics, by ideology, by religion. And so you can't get it straight, Eric. You've got to rely on yourself. Only you can get it straight. And if you listen to the mainstream media, you're not going to get it straight. Because for years they've been telling us, you know, that, you know, nobody ever spied on Donald. Trump. Well, hello, you know, we've got a FISA court that approved, you know, using Carter Page as a megaphone to the Trump and the Trump campaign. But right and wrong has to be something that you decide

in your heart based on your gut. And the problem that we're seeing right now with the mainstream media is exacerbated by the fact that the United States Supreme Court just came down with a decision last week, Eric, that broke my heart. And it is. is the, I think it's, it was a 5-4 decision. And John Roberts, again, shocking, joined the liberal wing. And Justice Gorsuch of Trump appointee wrote the dissent. And he said the main opinion was that 500 people can go to the casino. You can roll that, you know, you can play craps.

You can, you know, roll that roulette wheel. You can sing, dance, whatever you want to do. 500 of you can go to the movie theater, but no more than 50 of you can go to the Calvary Church. How dare they? How dare they? That is the first amendment. And Gorsuch came out with a dissent, and he said, you know, Nevada can decide that the Constitution applies to Caesar's Palace over Calvary Chapel, which was the name of the church. But that's not accurate. And that's what we're seeing. We're seeing a dissolution of religion. of free markets, of capitalism, of free speech, and of the ability to work for our families. This is craziness. I keep saying, I think that, I mean, I've been saying this for a few years, but now it's clear. This is an existential crisis in the way that 1776 was and 1860 was,

where you are forced to fight for the existence of freedom, liberty. We'll be right back for one more segment with Janine Piro, folks. You're not going to go away, so I won't ask you not to it. Folks, I got some more more mile. Now for once in your life, you're alive. Folks, I got some embarrassing news to share with you, but you know what? This is just the kind of a show where I don't care. I'm willing to lay my heart, you know, on the line.

Here's the issue. Mike Lindell with my pillow, you may notice that I have a bobble head of him near me. He's here to remind all of us that when you go to, MyPillow.com. You get whopping discounts if you use the code Eric. Now, there are a lot of people who haven't done that and we have your names here. And Chris Heim's Ann Albin pointed out to me that there's like three pages of you whose first name is Eric. You, you're so, I mean, that's humiliating for me that even though your name is Eric, you're still not willing to use the code Eric. I mean, if you don't want to use it because it's my name. Use it because it's your name. But the point is that

that I see who you are and I just, I just feel humiliated by this. Please go to go to mypillar.com. It's okay, Mike. It's going to be okay. Go to go to mypillar.com. Use the code, Eric. You're going to get whopping savings and really high quality products. Did I, did I mention that? Thank you. They're going to put me in the movies. Folks, lucky me, lucky you. I'm talking to Justice, Janine Piro, Justice Janine Piro, I just have to laugh because I'm expecting you to wear, you know, you're wearing a strapless gown or whatever you wear in Fox News. I finally got you

as you really are, I guess, right? You know, this is roughly, this is roughly the real you wearing a denim vest. I feel disrespected. I just want you to know. Seriously, though. Don't feel disrespected. I ran up from the gym to do this. I know you did. I know just the opposite. I love you. And you tell it straight, and you've just been talking us about what's going on in the country. And I want to mention, if you don't mind, your book, which came out last fall, which is like a thousand years ago in terms of, except it's prophetic.

It's called radicals, resistance, and revenge, the left's plot to remake America. That's where we are right now, right? In other words, we've known this for quite a while, but because of COVID and because of the death of George Floyd, things have erupted so that we, and when I say we, not you and not me, but the culture, the news media, the many Democratic leaders and some Republican leaders have given the violent leftist mobs a bit of room to do destruction that normally you wouldn't give them. Something has changed and we've allowed them like kids to act out and to do these things. the mainstream media is making excuses for it. And they are doing what the, what the sub-title of your book is, the left's plot to remake America. They're attempting to remake America by burning things down.

What do you suppose their endgame is? In other words, if they can have their way, what do you see happening out of this? Well, I think that what we saw, Eric, in 2016, when Donald Trump was elected president was a mass hysteria on the part of the establishment because they understood that Donald Trump was not part of the establishment, that he was there answerable to no one but the American people. And the freak out began on the day that he was elected that night. I'll never forget coming out of the Hilton Hotel in New York City and people cursing me out. You know, I remember when I came out, Eric, you know, I remember someone saying that, you know, she's a Trump supporter, F her or whatever. And I remember looking and there was a pair of converse sneakers. And then I looked up the legs of the sneakers and they were like black tights. And then there was a tutu on the black tights. And then I looked up the guy was 6'4. Okay. He didn't like me much. Okay. So, you know, I get, you know, being the shy retiring type when he said F you, I went right back at him. But thank goodness, thank God. You know, there were cops lined up on the 6th Avenue at the time.

And I ended up getting into my car, but that was the beginning. And the death of George Floyd, as you indicated, was a flashpoint. It was a perfect storm. But whether it was George Floyd or anything else or COVID or whatever it might be, it was a perfect storm where we became locked down as a nation. We learned helplessness like battered women, you know, and you know, I started first domestic violence nation when I was a prosecutor. I understand what goes on in homes of,

where women are being battered. And then we were taught, the government can give you money, the government will be able to sustain you, no need to go back to work. And you, Attilis, gym owners in New Jersey, don't you dare go back to work? But any of you, thousands, you want to protest, have at it, guys, go for it. You know, this is an important time in history.

And let's defund the cops so we can make sure that they can't arrest you. And 37,000 police officers in New York City, every one of them with a gun, not one being taught how to effectuate an arrest under the new guidelines where they can't touch a here, can't touch your diaphragm, can't touch this, can't touch that, so the cops are not making arrests. This is a perfect storm of the media and the left, basically beating us all down. So it is a plot to take down America. Political correctness is the enemy of free speech. People are being fired from their jobs all the time. I'll give you one more. You know, the Covington School Kid, that Nicholas Sandman, who went with their pro-life rally to the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, they savage that 16-year-old boy.

And they said that he was blocking the Native American and they were harassing him. It was just the opposite. And so Nicholas Sandman's lawyer, Lynn Wood, ended up suing CNN, Wapot, already got verdicts, settlements against them. And now we know that the mainstream media has lied, okay, for the ideology on the left. They were willing to destroy this young kid and basically divide the nation based on this racist kid. Why? Because he was wearing a MAGA hat. That's why. People need to rely on their instincts and understand what's going on in America. Well, I have to say that, you know, the mainstream media is populated by the kind of of people that I went to college with, right? Like you know, I'm a son of immigrants and

a dream to go to a place like Yale. But I tasted that world that it's the world in which Obama grew up and got his mindset. It's a globalist mindset. And it is a mindset that it has utterly different values. But what's interesting to me, you'll see this sometimes on the right, but we're seeing it mostly on the left, is the end. justify the means. We have no actual values. We will do whatever is necessary. We don't care. We will lie. That's to me what's so horrific right now. And you know me. I believe in prayer. I really think that this is a moment in America where we, I believe, you know, God is on the side of freedom and truth and justice and law and order. I don't think there's any doubt about that. But I really think it's the wake-up

call for the average American, maybe a lot of people who are on the fence, who are seeing this going on and thinking, I had no idea that the Democrat leadership of these kinds of cities would allow this to go on. I honestly think it's a wake-up call. I believe and I'm praying that it's going to be reflected in this election. What do you think is going to happen in this election? What is your gut? If you think 2016 brought out the silent American, Americans, 2020, they're coming out with their pitchforks, okay? You know, and that's just an illustration, a visual, nothing more. In this day and age, you have to clarify.

You have to actually clarify. I didn't mean anything by that. Pitchfork, so that when somebody's murdered with a pitchfork, you know, they're going to blame you, right? And me, yeah. So, yeah, I think the kind of against pitchfork murder. I spent 32 years in law enforcement of an prosecutor, a judge, and a DA. If we do not have law and order, if we do not have rules, if we do not have police, we will turn into a barbaric society. It is as simple as that.

There will be vigilante justice. There will be no justice. And right now, what Americans need to understand is if you like what's going on in Portland, if you like what happened in Seattle in that summer of love, that Hapwick mayor out there, Jenny Durkin, and Ted Wheeler and Kate Brown, the governor of Oregon, who are saying that, feds are an occupying force. Nonsense. They're mandated by law to protect the federal building. What Americans need to understand now is, if you believe in the Constitution, if you believe in free speech, freedom of religion, the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, then you better get out there and vote. And you don't let anybody tell you that you can't vote

or you shouldn't vote or they'll vote for you. Forget this mail-in-valent nonsense. That's a bunch of hogwash. And, you know, I spoke to someone. I was on a radio show. And actually, I think it was my radio show. I got to get you on. I do a lot in a week. But anyway, and she said, I'm afraid to vote because will they have distancing there, social distancing? Will they have something? I can wash my hands if I touch the lever.

You know, all that's going to be done. People need to vote and not be afraid to vote. Because if you don't, we're slipping right into socialism. Rashida Taleb, Ilhan Omar, AOC, these Democrats socialists, Socialists are being elected across the country. They're DAs. They're letting everyone out of jail. They don't believe in jail.

I mean, look, it sounds so insane. Part of the insanity is that Joe Biden, you know, three or four months ago, when people were saying he's losing his mind, I defended him. In other words, I don't defend him ideologically, but I said, oh, come on, you know, this is classic conservatives just any time.

Everybody does it whenever their opponent says one thing wrong, they jump all over it. They've done it to me. But in the last three months, months, I myself have become convinced that he is a husk. He's a shell of the Joe Biden of the past. And the idea that they are cynically propping him up. I mean, there's something really dark about the idea that they're wheeling him out. And it doesn't seem possible for him actually to govern the United States of America. So there are going to be people around him. I mean, I can't

imagine what they're planning with this guy? Well, if you'll notice, Eric, he's never there anywhere without Jill right next to him, without Jill sitting right next to him, standing right next to him. You know, when you talk about people propping him up, I mean, come on, is power that important to him that he doesn't know what he's running for? He doesn't know where he is. He doesn't know, you know, what his policies are. He doesn't know what his website is. This man, you're going to give him access to a nuclear button. I mean, I mean, really? Well, look, I, lucky for you, Janine Piro, we're out of time.

I'll let you go back to your workout. We love you and just really grateful for you coming on. And, you know, we'll be looking for you out there in TV land. But thank you for your voice. God bless you. And I'm proud of you, Eric. The idea that you went to Yale, you was son of immigrants, I mean, you skip like five generations. You jump high and you do really well.

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for President Inc. Hey there, folks. I needed to catch my breath from talking to Janine Piro. You know how it is. Listening to her fatigues me in a good way. She is amazing. I thought, you know what, Let's take a break. And for the second half of the show, let's go with like a mild-mannered, diffident, thoughtful. Somebody so thoughtful that he's afraid to speak his mind. So in a second, we're going to be talking to David Horowitz.

Turn up your volume. He's very soft-spoken. And I'm going to try to coax some opinions out of him. Before that, I want to remind you, folks, this month, we are doing a fundraiser with food for the poor. please visit metaxis talk.com. You'll see everything there. Metaxistock.com.

We really need your help. This is crucial because of COVID. We're in a crisis here. So we need anything you can do. As long as everyone does something, we'll succeed. And you know what? David Harwitz is here. David, welcome to the program.

Hey, Eric. Well, you could be here. Can I coax an opinion out of you about what's going on in the country? Let's talk about the Democrats' lies. They're getting so big. There's nobody in his right mind who could believe them and so repetitive. Well, before we get to their lies, I want to ask you about you were having trouble. Your book, we talked about your book Blitz.

Trump will smash the left and win. That's your prediction. That's the book, which just came out, you know, weeks ago. You said that somehow the left is making it difficult for people to find it or something. Can you tell me about that? because that just makes me angry. Yeah. I didn't look at Amazon today,

but if you go up, if you went up yesterday, Amazon says it takes you eight days to get the book because it's not in stock. They had one to two months saying that it was not in stock. Walmart says it's out of stock.

I happen to know there's tens of thousands of copies out there, that they've got it. So, you know, it's just more what the left does. Also, I'm sure you have something like this on your Amazon sites. Amazon has readers reviews. I would say that there's about 100 reviews of my book where you can,

they're not verified purchases. You can tell if people didn't read the book. And they'll say hilarious joke, propaganda, right wing, you know. It's just terrible. The left has, is trying, and it's the Democrat Party. Why do you suppose Amazon would not require someone to have bought the book to post a review? That is curious, isn't it? Yeah, and they have guidelines. They have algorithms that enforce the guidelines. You know, the number one critical review, they post the most, you know, the number one critical review is just, well, it says it's hilarious.

My book is not hilarious. I wish I would take that as a compliment. I want to ask you, you know, your book is titled Blitz. Trump will smash the left and win. Why do you suppose, David, the polls are looking so negative for Trump? I mean, I don't get it. No, today they're all turning. He's within one or two points, which means it wins in all the battleground states.

Wait a minute. This is news to me. Have I been in a cave someplace? When did that happen? You're not addicted enough to Twitter. No. To be alerted. And Trump's approval rating is at 50%,

which is higher than where Obama's was when he was seeking at this point the second term. And I believe these are all skewed because people don't want to reveal that they support Trump because the left is so, I'm going to attempt to do. say evil. I mean, they want to destroy you. People don't want to be destroyed because of a vote that they cast. So they're not going to tell pollsters the truth. So you're still, so you are

convinced then that, uh, that he will win. I am. I think he'll even defeat the mail-in voter for it, which is one of the Democrats' big lies. It's huge difference between absentee ballots where you have to apply for one. So it's being sent to a particular living person who's a citizen and at the address that they're sending it to with what Gavin Newsom did send out 21 million ballots to people on the registration list, which conclude dead people, people who moved,

people who moved houses, people who moved to different states and we'll vote again and so forth. I was going to say, I have to mention this, on Twitter that I don't normally watch mainstream media from my mental health. I avoid it. But I happened to be someplace where someone was watching the evening news on CBS with Nora O'Donnell. And Nora O'Donnell said with a straight face that Donald Trump is against, I can't remember the exact term, but it was it was the like the time honored tradition of mail in ballots. And my head spun around.

I said, what? The time-honored tradition of mail-in ballots, I thought, this is madness. She's conflating absentee ballots with mail-in ballots, evidently to confuse her audience. And many people are totally confused about the vast difference between an absentee ballot, which is legitimate, and a mail-in ballot, which is just as right for fraud as anything. Yeah. Well, you can get fine distinction. across when they censor everything.

You wouldn't know there was a riot anywhere if you watched CNN. I watched James Clyburn. It's probably, you know, in the top three most powerful Democrats, he's the one who made Joe Biden a candidate. I can't remember he said. I think he's a black congressman from South Carolina.

Oh, yeah, that's right. That was the Joe Biden firewall. I mean, he was going down in flame. Wait a minute. Hold on. We know what we're going to a hard break. Folks, we'll be right back. Hey, Albin.

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There's nothing dangerous about it. You can take it all day long, and you will know within three weeks if it works for you. And if it works for you, it will probably change your life. Relieffactor.com. Reliefactor.com. Folks, I am talking to David Harwitz. He's the author of the book Blitz. Trump will smash the left and win.

David Harwitz, we're talking about a number of things. We're talking about Biden. I cannot fathom. I was just talking to Janine Piro about this. I really cannot fathom the cynicism. of the Democrats in propping up this husk of a man, whether you agree with him or disagree with him. He's not fit to be the president of the United States. If they don't say that, they're going to lose their jobs.

The Democrat Party has run like it's a communist party. You tow the line or you're out. I mean, they're ruthless. But let's remember, you know, these are the people. who evolved from Tammany Hall mafiosos into modern-day mafiosos. They're gangsters. And I was watching a Pete Hags that brought up to Clyburn that he had called the federal agents who were going to Portland to protect the courthouse there, Gestapo.

Can you imagine this? Can you imagine you as a Jew, I would be in the streets with a literal pitchfork. I cannot believe Nancy Belos The Gestapo stormtroopers Yeah So So Hanks says

You know He got embarrassed At being exposed doing that So he said Well sometimes I misspe Well how then would you describe them Terrorists Federal agents

Defending the courthouse From being torched Terrorists So then Hage says Well what about the violence. You know, there's two solid months of trying to burn down that courthouse. They have explosives, they have machetes, they set fires. And I still can't believe what. Clyburn said

was, well, there was one white supremacist dressed in black who may have committed violence, but the protests are all peaceful. Yeah, peaceful, right. Alan's Russia. You're on CNN's Russia. You're on CNN. or you might as well be in Moscow, you know, during the Stalin era. I want to ask you, what is it that prevents these federal forces in Portland from ending this? It doesn't seem, it doesn't make sense to me that this can go on and on and on. I think, look, the Democrats have made our politics war. You know, I hate it when Republicans, the wimpy Republicans say, oh, you know, when Nancy Pelosi calls federal agents stormtroopers or blames every coronavirus death on Trump, Democrats are playing politics.

No, they're not. It's about war. These are the terms of war. You want to destroy whoever disagrees with you. Look what they've done to, you know, build bar, you know, 30 years. spotless public career. And now he's just the tool of Donald Trump, according to the Democrats.

Where was I going with this? Well, I guess I'm trying to process this, and I'm trying to do so to help my audience process this. When you think about Portland, it's hard for me to believe that federal agents would not be able to arrest these violent maniacs. I don't get it. I think that the Trump campus,

calculating, you know, if we go in too soon, you know, they're going to just blame us as the Gestapo. Let them, you know, weak enough violence so that everybody will say, please, bear us to go in, which is kind of what's happening. I don't know if you saw the news about Minneapolis today, but the city has informed the citizens of, this is the city government, of Minneapolis that if they're encounter a criminal, do what the criminal says. Give them what they want so you don't get hurt because they've disappeared to police.

I mean, if you asked me three months ago, could this happen in America? I'd say, nah, there's some... Well, you see, the funny thing is that anybody with a sense of history thinks, you can't help but think about German. in the 30s. What happened? Everybody says, how did it happen? How did it happen? This is exactly how this is precisely how it happened. And I've actually said, going back a few years, when I saw the cowardice

of people on the left and often of evangelical Christians, I thought to myself, this is how it happens. If you blame Germans, good Germans for keeping their mouths shut, you are doing the same thing right now. You are aiding and abetting evil. There's no way around it. In other words, there are certain times when if you do not have courage and if you do not speak up, you are allowing evil to prosper. And it's what happened in Germany. It's what's happening now. Those in power are counting on a number of people simply to do nothing. It's not like the Black Lives Communists are shy about, you know, telling you what their agendas of.

When they behead a statue of Jesus, when they burn a statue. of the Virgin Mary. When they light, make a stack of Bibles and put the American flag on it and light it, they're telling you something. You've got to listen or it'll be too late. These are, you know, these are caches. Well, that's the whole thing is that. They're so funded.

Corporate America has put, they have millions of dollars. That's maybe the worst part of it for me, David, is that we have, I mean, it's one thing to talk about the press being complicit in this, but corporate America, the cravenness of corporate America is the most horrific to me, that we have people who want to know better, who they don't dare say a word against China because they don't want to lose five cents. They're greedy and absolutely amoral. They couldn't care less about wickedness, the destruction of the union and they don't have any loyalty to America. Pardon me? And they don't have any loyalty to America. And it's a big problem.

We haven't tried anybody for treason in this country since Tokyo Rose. And neither are not. Not the Rose. Oh, James. Not what's the name of that little jerk who stole the military? Yes. Mr.

Manning. All these traders, not one of them tried for treason. Not one of them shot. Very good. It's a, it's, it's, it's, it's, very good. In strange times. I'm grateful for your voice in the midst of all this. The book is Blitz.

Trump will smash the left and win. When we come back, final segment with David Harwitz. Folks, don't go away and don't forget. Please go to metaxis talk.com. Click on the banner. You want to do it as soon as possible. I'll tell you why in the next hour. That old wheel will roll around again.

Yes, sir. When love is gone. Folks, welcome back. Final segment of Hour 1. Typically, traditionally, following hour 1, we will post what is called Hour 2. Don't let it throw you. That's the way it goes. Hour 1 and then Hour 2.

In hour 2, we're going to be talking to John Zmirak. I know you don't want to miss that. But right now we have the joy of speaking to David Harowitz. David, I want to, before we go ask you about COVID, what do you suppose is happening in America now? because many of us want to take it seriously. We want it to end, but we know that it has become bitterly politicized. It's a staggering thing. Why the Democrats?

Why the Democrats exclusively? Everything Trump has done that's political in terms of the viruses and reactions. And the Democrats, it's treason. We have a biological war being conducted against us by the Chinese. even if it wasn't developed as a biological weapon, which it probably was the virus, they're withholding the information that it was contagious and deadly for two months

and allowing five million Chinese to travel all around the world infecting people is war. And the Democrats have taken the side of the Chinese. They don't want Trump using the term China virus even. They have... I mean, listen. The opportunity...

The Spanish flu was. was not the Spanish flu compared to this virus being the China virus. I mean, I don't see why anybody would shrink from that. I have been calling it the the Kung Flu Pandidemic. Perhaps you're familiar with the movie Kung Fu Panda, the Kung Flu Pandidemic. But seriously, what you're saying about the Democrats with regard to China, that's the disturbing divide. In other words, it's one state of the anti-American, but when you do, go ahead. Trump does not control a single health care system in this country.

We have a federal system. It's all in the control of the governors of the states. And the worst hit states are those run by Democrats. That's the reality. What I like about the Democrats is not only do they blame Trump for everything, when it's the Andrew Cuomo's and I forget what the Murphy, in New Jersey's name is, but these are the people responsible for the healthcare policies in the states.

And any failures are their failures. Trump do no more than try to persuade them. Trump's job was to supply ventilators, masks, that Obama used up, tests, and vaccines, all of which he's done. And he's done it in an ecumenical way. He's done it for Republican states as well, or Democrat states, as well.

well as Republican states. Then the Democrats want to use it as an example of systemic racism because black people are more susceptible. But if you look at the comorbidity factors, obesity, which leads to high blood pressure and diabetes, all three of those will kill you if you have coronavirus if you're of a certain age. And it turns out if you go up on the Internet and just type in obesity by race, you will find that black people and brown people have serious obesity problems. So in other words, you're saying it's not a racial thing.

I was going to say, we're at a point where the whole thing has become so politicized, David, that you hardly know what to believe. But one thing I know... They don't even believe it. The end is justified the means. So when a black human being, Herman Kane, dies, they blame it on Trump, even though the guy who had stage four colon cancer. And even though they are claiming the virus discriminates.

I'm so sorry, we're out of time. David, thank you for your time today. I just love hearing from you. The book, folks, is Blitz. Trump will smash the left and win. Oh, boy, do I hope so. We'll be right back with our two.