The Eric Metaxas Show - Jerome Hudson

Episode Date: October 26, 2020

Breitbart's Jerome Hudson tallies up "50 Things They Don't Want You to Know About Trump," his book that highlights some of the amazing accomplishments of the president that the press keeps "under wraps."

Welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show. Have you ever gargled Peter Butter? What's the capital of North Dakota? Do I spit when I talk? All this and more on the Eric Mataxis show. Now your host, until further notice, Eric Mataxis. Folks, welcome to the Eric Mataxis show. You probably know that I'm Eric Mataxis, but what you don't know is the identity of my

guest until I tell you, well, I'm kind of a soft touch. I'll tell you right now. His name is Jerome Hudson. Jerome, welcome of the program. I'm very excited to have you on. I know that you're the entertainment editor for brightbart.com. And you've written a book. I wanted to talk to you about this for some time now.

It's called 50 Things They Don't Want You to Know About Trump. Now, you self-identify for my radio listeners as a male cisgender black American. Am I getting that right? Milk chocolate American. Milk chocolate American. And I identify as brown because I'm listening some time. in the sun. But listen, you've been with Breitbart for quite some time. You're the entertainment editor. I didn't even know they had an entertainment editor. What is it that made you write this book,

50 things they don't want you to know about Trump? Because it is loaded with stuff. I mean, I was kind of amazed at some of it. Sure. No. My editor came to me about a month after my first book, 50 Things They Don't Want You to Know came out. And he said, do you think you can do one of these about the president? And I accepted the challenge. It's a little bit between passion and addiction. my my want to research after working with Peter Switzer at the Government Accountability Institute, I will tell you, Eric, that about 25 of the things were fairly easy to find. We're talking about accomplishments of the administration, just objectively good things. I found the second half of the book pretty hard to find things, not because that there weren't accomplishments,

but because I discovered that much of the political press has spent so much time. I'm focusing on the personality of the president and not his actual policies. And so there was a lot of research done. But the will to actually beat the press at their own game motivated me, probably more than anything. Well, look, since you are black, I've got to ask you the first question because this is so insane. It's an insane question, but I'll ask it, is like, why don't you think, as a black American, And why don't you think this president is racist? Well, I think Don Jr., his son says it all the time.

If he is a racist, he's the worst racist on the planet. Much of the book, Eric, is oriented around how the president, whether it was blatant or indirect, put together a multifaceted plan to actually improve the lives, obviously of all Americans, but for black Americans. I talk about how the president had 100 of the historical. historically black colleges and university presidents in the Oval Office, Eric. The president, I feel like he walked in and as a dealmaker, as a businessman, said, why the hell are you guys coming back to Washington, D.C., once a year?

Let's put together a decade-long funding plan, and the president did that to the tune that it actually ended up him funding historically black colleges of universities at a historic level. The president also put together a plan to actually eradicate HIV in America, which is still an epidemic. About 40,000 Americans contracted disease every year, but a large share, a disproportionate amount of the people who contract HIV happened, unfortunately, to be black. And the president rolled out a plan. He got a billion dollars in funding for PrEP, which basically brings the virus. visibility in your, in your blood to zero. I mean, it's not a cure, but effectively it is. Now, look, the big headline here is not that he did these things, but that the press doesn't cover these things. I mean, when you just said he put together a 10-year plan to fund historically black

colleges, the only time I've ever heard that mentioned was from the president's own lip in one of his rallies. Right. And I thought to myself, what a scandal. Here you have someone doing something objectively good for black Americans. There's nothing to discuss. There's no nuance. It's a good thing. And the press refuses to cover it. I mean, that's, I still, I think in spite of that,

he is still going to do very, very well among black Americans. I think he's going to shock some people with, with how he performs among Hispanics and blacks this time. But this news just doesn't get out. I mean, if somebody's not listening to this program, where are they going to hear that he did this? You know, if they're not following you or reading Breitbart News, you're right.

And the president, I mean, he tweets incessantly, and he's on the campaign trail, which I think is his favorite place on the planet. I really had fun putting this book together. I mean, actually, Eric, citing the New York Times publishing a headline that said that under this president, the black and Hispanic poverty rates hit a historic low. I mean, we know about the unemployment rates,

but poverty rates actually going down for black and Hispanic to a historic low. For the first time, we've been tracking it for 60 years. It was fun to write about that. One of the chapters, to your point, we're not talking about journalists. I have really good friends who work at The Washington Post, who work at CNN.

By and large, we're talking about the people who make the decisions. And I wrote about many editors, senior reporters, at Politico, at The Washington Post, at New York Daily News, Eric. They were actually writing, fantasizing about the impeachment of Donald Trump in March of 2016.

What's interesting about that date is that Donald Trump wasn't even the Republican nominee for president in March 2016. We're talking about political activists who hurt the country. In the introduction, I really do take a baseball bat to the political press in this country. They shopped around, they bolstered,

and they promoted the dossier, with which out we would not have had a Mueller investigation that, again, hurt this country for two years. I have to ask you, I always do this, get people's background. How did you get to be where you are today? And now you're in Florida, but like where did you grow up and how did you come to be, you know, politically conservative

or pro-Trump? I had a military man and a father. whom I dedicated my first book to and my mother, I saw their work ethic every day. My dad, he retired from the Army, went right into the United States Postal Service, retired from that, bought some pickup trucks and started a small business. But it was really just having involved parents in imploring myself and my brother to work hard. And honestly, Eric, I mean, it saved me. I went to Savannah High School, and from the time that I started in the ninth grade to the time I got to 12th grade,

a quarter of my graduating class was either dead, locked up, or had dropped out because they were pregnant. And so it quite literally put me on a course to where I am, having involved parents. Then, ironically, I actually met a man and a professor who gave me books written by Thomas Sol and Shelby Still. Oh, that'll do it. that really did open my, uh, I think you mentioned that the last time you were on this program. I can't even remember. I think you did.

Yeah. No, I did. And it's, it's an amazing story to tell. It's why I wrote the first book. And it's, and thankfully Harper Collins believed in me enough. Give me a chance to,

to tell the story that the president, um, has and should be proud of. It's really an amazing set of accomplishments. It is. And I, I have to laugh because I find this president, hilarious the way he communicates.

What did he say one day? It's a few weeks ago, but he said, I have, he says, I have done more for, for black Americans than any president. And then he says, with the possible exception. Important caveat. And that's like the funniest thing I've ever heard with the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln. Obviously, he's changed that to, with the exception of Abraham Lincoln. I will, I will tell you, Eric.

that, and I tell this story, and you can go and you can look at, I wrote a story about it. Kanye West is telling a Chicago radio host who is just floored that Kanye West, brilliant musician, a billionaire fashion mogul at this point, can support openly the president. And Kanye West said, look, I sat down and looked the man in his eyes. And Donald Trump told Kanye West that he wants to be the best president for black America. And he delivered on that promise. I write Eric about, it's a stunning chapter in how new women-owned firms, businesses, hit a record per day high in 2018 with 1821 new women-owned firms opening in 2018.

The number slightly dipped to 1817 new firms. You know, forgive me, I'm cutting you right off in the middle of a sentence, going to a hard break, we'll be right back, folks. My apologies. Hey there, folks. I hate cutting people off in the middle of sentences, but I do it all the time. Jerome Hudson is my guest. He's the entertainment editor at brightbart.com. The book is 50 things. They don't want you to know about Trump. And Jerome, you were just making a point about one of the president's accomplishments, and I had to cut you off to go to the break. Please continue. Sure, no. It's the chapter in which I talk about how women-owned

new business startups in 2018 hit a record high per day. That is 1,821 per day women-owned firms opened in 2018. That was a record high. It dipped slightly to 1,817 in 2019, but it was still in historic levels we're talking about. What's interesting about that chapter, Eric, it was so fun to write, is that the largest, share of those new women-owned firms were represented by black women who are underrepresented

in terms of lending, and certainly in terms in managerial positions. And so the irony there is the subgroup of voters who supported the president, be leased in 2016, actually benefited the most from his economic policies. Well, as we know, we're living in such divide at times that, you know, when we talk about women, we mean women, but when people on the left talk about women, they mean left-leaning women who are so pro-abortion that they won't even let a woman identify as a woman unless she herself hates Trump and is pro-bortion. We're living in divided times. And the same thing goes for the black community. I just have to ask you, it must be frustrating not to be able to get your message out to your fellow black Americans,

because I don't know where or exactly how they consume media, but it just seems to me that what you know to be true is not something that most of them would be aware of. I mean, it just, if you're consuming the media, you're not bumping into stuff like this. I spend an embarrassing amount of time, Eric, looking at polling data, surveys. And I will say, heading into this election, what has alarmed the Biden administration, excuse me, the Biden campaign, is that he is underperforming amongst blacks and Hispanics to where Hillary Clinton, was. And what's interesting about that is Hillary Clinton in 2016 was underperforming in those precincts where Obama did in 2012. Those voters are shifting toward President Trump. Charlemagne

the God, the celebrated New York radio hosts actually said this week that I understand why black voters are drifting toward and sort of are supporting President Trump. I mean, he has gone out his way more than any other politician, certainly any president in generations. I mean, you had P. Diddy calling out Barack Obama in 2015. In 2015, he's got one more year in office. Pete, puff daddy, the mogul fashion, you know, billionaire who started his own party calling out Barack Obama for not doing enough for black Americans. This president has done a lot for all Americans, but he has a beautiful story to tell for black voters. Well, I mean, this is the funny thing about when people talk about systemic racism. I think that, you know, everyone I know who's white wants to improve the

situation, generally speaking, of black Americans. The idea that, you know, either white people or Republicans don't care about that is just a filthy lie. But this president has really managed to do it in many ways. I think Kanye West's bravely. in visiting the White House and being willing to be, you know, such a major figure coming out for the president that way. There are a number of things like that have happened that I think have the Democrats frightened because you know and I know that if you look at the record of Democrat-controlled cities, they have devastated black communities, devastated black families, just you telling your story about having this incredible father. How many young black men can talk about that? Because communities have been devastated. has made it very easy for families not to have a father. And so I think that in a sense enough time has passed that people are looking at the evidence

and saying, you know what, we may turn away from the Democratic Party because they have done a lot of talking, but they really have not served us. As entertainment editor, Eric, much of my job is tracking culture shifts. and that is what Donald Trump, I think, has done the most. Speaking, you know, not for all black Americans, but certainly for popular black culture, we've sort of accepted a lie for the last four years that we didn't celebrate Donald Trump in hip hop music for decades, that we didn't, you know, look in sort of in awe at just how many celebrated and, you know, football and sports figures.

that Donald Trump had in his orbit. These people still to this day, I mean, Tiger Woods, Herschel Walker, they're still friends, the ones that are honest enough. But that is what the president did. He was a cultural icon before, and he created a culture shift, Eric. I mean, when you look at his justice reforms,

he actually brought people like Van Jones together. Van Jones, a radical from Oakland, California, to actually get good things done. that you wouldn't see from a Joe Biden who literally had 36 years to enact the type of legislation, but actually went the opposite direction in champion legislation

that really did break up a lot of families. When the president, there's a chapter specifically, I write how in the first two years of President Trump's presidency, violent crime decrease. The important thing to know, is that violent crime increased the last two years of Barack Obama's presidency. That's what I mean by a culture shift.

Police officers, law enforcement departments in this country knew, they won that they had a president, and they still know that they have a president that has their backs. It made it easier for them to do their jobs, Eric, but it made it safer for communities that Black Lives Matter wants to throw cops out of. It's an amazing thing. Black Lives Matter, I almost, say it every day now. If you care about Black Lives, you better be against this wicked organization, this Marxist anti-God, anti-family organization called Black Lives Matter. There's a church in my neighborhood. They've got a bit of Black Lives Matter banner. And I want to say Black Lives Matter.com is an anti-God, anti-Black, anti-American organization. But I mean, look,

Shelby Steele wrote about it in his book, White Guilt. People are just unable to think clearly when it comes to this stuff. I mean, I think Black Lives Matter is so much about power that if they could have murdered George Floyd, because let's face it, they used what happened there. They were happy to have something to get millions, billions of dollars in their pockets to do, I don't know what, nothing good. And it is so cynical. And it seems that many people in the church, that's what's great.

grieved me mostly, that many people in white churches have gone along with a Marxist agenda that has no basis even to talk about race. They don't care about race. They care about power. Yeah, I host three nights a week on Sirius XM Patriot, Bright Bart News tonight. And I will tell you, Eric, that I have dozens of calls a night. I'm constantly getting emails, you know, my DMs on Twitter at Jerome E. Hudson are always open. But I've gotten an outwe. pouring, though, of sort of the opposite. I think one of the things that the president has always done is, has allowed people to not actually fear speaking the truth.

What I say is that what connected George Floyd is the same thing that connected Jacob Blake in Wisconsin, Rayshard Brooks, and Atlanta, they all resisted arrest. Had they not made those boneheaded decisions, you know, George Floyd would be alive today. Jacob Blake would be able to walk today. Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta would be alive today. It's not that they were black that was the common denominator. It's that they made ridiculous decisions that cost them their lives and caused Jacob Blake his ability to walk. But again, I think that a lot of people have realized that.

I like you, was disappointed to see a lot of my friends who are very good Christians, men and women, young and old, posting those ridiculous. black boxes. When at the end of the day, as that was happening, you had crime in cities like L.A. and New York City and Baltimore and Detroit rising. But again, I wasn't able to get it in my book, but this president put together a plan to send federal law enforcement into cities like Detroit, bringing down the murder rate by 50% in Chicago, in Kansas City, Missouri, and named it after a four-year-old boy in Legend Tela Faro, who was killed by a stray bull. you actually have his mother and Attorney General Barr, this young black woman grieving,

and this 70-year-old Attorney General and William Barr standing shoulder to shoulder traveling cities in championing the law enforcement and anti-crime policies of President Trump. It's amazing. It is amazing. It's absolutely amazing. And, you know, people act like, were you not anti-racist before you put up the stupid little banner or a little black? thing or whatever. Like, are we serious?

Racism solved. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's absolutely, uh, amazing. Folks, I'm talking to Jerome Hudson. Jerome Hudson. The book is 50 things. They don't want you to know about Trump. He's the entertainment editor at brightbart.com. We'll be right back. Don't wait until you're told you're old and worn. Take in some air and get your lips puckered. Investors. Seeking steady cash flow. Ready to diversify? NRIA has grown to be one of the nation's leading specialists and offers 10% annualized monthly payouts with bonuses targeted at 18 to 21%. That's right. You could receive steady 10% return monthly payments with bonuses. As their slogan says, they specialize in realty investing done right. You can even use your 401k or IRA to invest. NRA's 15-year track record and $1.2 billion in new construction development.

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Mike Lindell, he liked your interview so much. He showed up with his pillow. Hey, Mike, how you doing? I was going to say, it's freaking me out. out. I mean, the little bobblehead that I have of Mike Lindell, that's enough to freak me out, right? This is enough to freak me up. But to see a life-sized Mike Lindell with you, is that a wax figure? Did you pay $200,000 for that? Because it looks so much. It's real genuine cardboard, corrugated. Okay. Well, people need to go to mypillow.com, order like crazy, and use the code,

Eric, otherwise you don't get the huge discount. And Mike will be coming to your house to freak you out sometime. All right, got to get back to talking to Jerome. Jerome, it's a joy to speak with you. The book is 50 things they don't want you to know about Trump. This president has accomplished a ton. There's no question about it. It's impressive. The problem is the media. The problem is that the media will not give him credit, even for the things that I don't know how they avoid giving him credit. that he's been nominated four times for the Nobel Peace Prize. That seems to me slightly interesting. You think that they would cover it?

Yeah, I think that these scales have really fallen away from people's eyes. They see the media cloud, the disinformation and the fault for what it is. You can't call President Donald Trump an anti-Semite when one of his first international moves was to actually speak. in Saudi Arabia and actually champion broader relations between that country and other Arab nations with Israel. He moved the embassy to the capital of that country. The president through policy, Eric, actually broke the back of Iran. You had the president of that terrorist regime actually come out and say that our oil profits have gone down from $120 billion to $20 billion, million dollars. That was a, that was in direct relation because when the, when the Trump administration

came in, it was an entire new regime. The president actually put sanctions on. He stopped the Iran nuclear deal. We'll never forget the pallets of cash that Barack Obama sent to Iran. The president put, he put that full stop. And now he's actually celebrating normalized relations. We're talking about peace in the Middle East that, and to your point about the media, the argument falls apart. When you talk about prescription drug prices, which I write about falling for the first time in 50 years, or drug overdoses, the number of drug overdoses falling for the first time in 30 years, that's two Clinton administration, that's two Bush administrations, that's two Obama administrations. These things happened because of the policies of President Trump. And so if you

if you give him all the blame for the bad stuff, which they are so disingenuously doing with the coronavirus and the economic downturn that we saw against that, you have to give him all of the credit for the actual good accomplishments. It's hard for me to stomach when the left and the Democrats lie brazenly. I understand politics as politics,

but there's been a level of lying and of pushing lies. over and over and over again. I mean, when Biden or somebody, you know, for the hundred billionth time says something about the president said there were good people on both sides, or, you know, he made fun of a crippled person, or he better, they repeat it over and over and over again. He puts children in cages. You hear these things so often. And so to me, fundamentally, it's a media issue. And I guess I wonder what's going to happen if the president is reelected, which I think he will be, if the media will ever be able to correct or if we're just going to be

potentially divided. Let me ask you that, since you're in the know on these things. What is your sense of what's going to happen in this election? Well, again, just tracking the numbers in the actions of the Biden campaign. I mean, you don't bring out Barry Obama to Philadelphia if you're not worried about turnout in Pennsylvania. You don't send Kamala Harris to hear Jacksonville, Florida, and Orlando, and then center the next day to North Carolina, if you're not worried about turnout. I think, again, that the president has actually expanded his base,

Eric, with black voters, with Hispanic voters, with young professionals. And Joe Biden, the 77-year-old corrupt millionaire who's been in Washington forever, has actually been caught in the middle of a civil war in his own party. He's got a lot of people who are acolytes of Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, who did not want him to be the nominee.

And then he picked Kamala Harris, who was the most unpopular person from her own state of California. She dropped out of the primary before a single vote was cast. I'm not saying that president's going to run away with it, but I just don't actually see a path for victory for Joe Biden. Well, that is interesting. I've got to ask my producers, is this the eight-minute segment, Albin? I just want to make sure we have time.

Seven. Seven. Yeah. Right on. Okay, so we'll cut that out what I just said. There's so many things in your book, Jerome Hudds, and 50 things I don't want you to know about Trump. One of the things was that he expanded the largest wilderness preservation. He authorized the largest wilderness preservation expansion in a decade.

This president is pro-environment, not a peep from the mainstream press. that he did that. He'd been getting castigated again by the political press for two years for environmental policies that he actually didn't enact. Many of them were already started under Obama's regime. But you're right. He did expand, dedicate the largest expanses.

We're talking about more room for parks, more preservation, protection of wildlife. But again, if the media doesn't report it, maybe it doesn't happen. We're going to go to a break. We'll be right back. folks, I'm talking to Jerome Hudson. Don't go away. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Jerome Hudds and the author of 50 Things

They Don't want you to know about Trump. It is just a list. If you want a list to show your friends what the president has done, it's staggering. One of the things that I put at the top of the list of what this president has done, he has stood up to China. He stood up to China on a number of issues.

We have had a host of presidents before him do nothing. It's kind of like letting the problem go, go, go, go, go, go. go and then suddenly the problem is way bigger. This president has stood up to China. And then you have people on the left complaining that, oh, by doing this, he's causing all kinds of problems that we have to pay higher prices and this and that. And you say that 80% of farmers are for what the president did with China. Right.

It's actually interesting because there are a couple, a few chapters, which I talk about farmers' wages increasing at a two-decade record high, that was tied to the president's immigration policies. What a lot of the big farm companies realized was that, oh, my goodness, there aren't that many, you know, illegal immigrants to actually pay to do these jobs. We have to pay American workers, and American workers weren't higher wages, and so you get higher wages. The farming industry, by almost 90 percent, Eric, supported the,

the president basically taxing commodities coming out of China. It's, it's, again, I write how the president seemingly, whether it was blatant or whether it was indirect, he challenged China in a way that had never actually been done before. And you know it hadn't been done before. The president realized, and he, I believe, took it personally because he's donated his salary

to organizations trying to help with opioid addiction, and drug addiction. A particularly important part about that, Eric, was that the president actually put pressure on China's president, J.J.N.P., and actually having them shut down illegal fentanyl trafficking in China. I mean, we had tons of this stuff coming into this country, not just on the southern border.

And the president didn't take his eye off of that, but putting pressure on the Chinese government to shut down their illegal, fentanyl trade actually saved lives, and it attributed to the drug overdose number falling for the first time in 30 years. The president actually ordered the Pentagon to actually search for rare earth metals era for the first time since World War II. We know, and we have known that China has an 80% market on rare earth metals that we put in our fishing rod. We want to break into the solar and battery-powered car automobile industry.

We need rare earth metals, and China owns 80% of that market. The president realized it that we've seen with the coronavirus pandemic, that you can absolutely not give a terroristic regime like China, that type of monopoly on things that we rely on for our national defense and our medical industry for crying out loud. the president has the United States Army right now researching and finding ways to dig deep into the earth to find these minerals that we need. I mean, I have to say, I don't know how he gets all of this stuff done. This is an, he is by all accounts an amazing man with a breadth of interest

to care about all these different things and to take action on all these things. We don't deserve a president this competent. I do hope he gets elected. It is your sense that he will be reelected. I guess that's what you're saying. Absolutely. I don't pay attention to national polls. I pay attention to state polls, and there are really only a handful of states that matter. I think the election is held today. Joe Biden does not win my state of Florida. He does not win North Carolina. He doesn't win Wisconsin. He may not even win. Michigan. I think Pennsylvania is on Razor's Edge. And again,

it's not so much about the president, although again, he's widened his base. He has grown. I mean, you're talking, Eric, about, you know, 10 million background checks from March to October. I mean, that's the silent majority

realizing that, holy crap, we better arm ourselves because in many of those cities, there's failed Democratic leadership that's existed for decades that has not done the job. I mean, that is that that silent majority that you're talking about, people are talking about that's not showing up in the polls, but that will show up at the ballot box.

I think so. We have to go back to Biden because, you know, when you mentioned this president heroically standing up to China, I mean, seeing the issue, first of all, and talking about it for 30 years, seeing it, then getting elected, and then doing something about it, not only would Biden not do something about it.

It's very, very clear he doesn't get it. He doesn't understand what's at stake and how to deal with it, but that he is, it seems, obviously compromised with China. It seems that he was willing to do deals, to do things in such a way that you just get the impression that he wants to be friends with them. He doesn't want to go, you know, chest bump with them. He's not interested in confronting them.

And we're at a point right now where if you do not confront China, where will we be in 10 years? This is the wicked atheist communist regime that is oppressing 1.3 plus billion people. The role of America at this point is utterly used. And I think to have a president who doesn't understand our role with regard to China would be absolutely tragic. Yeah, we're talking about a country that has effectively concentration camps and it's Zijing province right now today, forced sterilization, forced abortion. And you're absolutely right. When it comes to Joe Biden, he is going to pay a price, I believe, on election day because he abandoned workers in this country for decades.

he supported the disastrous NAFTA trade agreement that hollowed out our manufacturing sector. Joe Biden turned around and supported allowing China to enter the World Trade Organization. Again, we're talking about the sucking of millions of American jobs over the years. His president realizes that it sees China for the competitor that it is. Well, Joe Biden, his son and his brother and his daughter and his sister, I mean, they're cutting deals, literally with China and Costa Rican. Look, there's no question. And, you know, they're not just our competitor. They're at this point.

They are our enemy in a number of levels. Jerome Hudson's a joy to have you on this program. Thank you. The book is 50 things they don't want you to know about Trump. And you can find Jerome Hudson at brightbart.com. Jerome, thank you again. Thank you, Eric. You're always so gracious.

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a non-small amount either will do. And the question is, have you done that yes or no go wait wait wait wait yes or no those are the two okay yes or no those are the two okay it's uh it's multiple choice a yes b no now if the answer is b and i want you to be honest uh now you have something to do today and i say this very sincerely when we say we want you to give any amount it means we want you to give any amount so if you've got five dollars burning a hole in your pocket twenty dollars a hundred dollars it doesn't matter, we want everyone to participate because when they come for you or your friend or your

teacher or the guy down the street who runs a bakery or someone else and they start giving him grief, you can say, well, I gave to the lines defending freedom and maybe my friend or whoever can contact the lines defending freedom because this is what they do. They defend people who are being wrongly attacked, they defend them in the court of law for free. So, you know, if you, somebody comes into your store and says, I know, I know that you're very pro-Jewish, but I've got a cake that I'd like you to bake. And it is, it's for the PLO. We're raising money for the PLO. By the way, I hate Jews. Oh, well, you're going to be able to say, I, I, I, I, I can't do that.

It goes against my conscience. I can't bake a Jew-hating cake. I hope you don't mind. We're in America, and I don't have to bake your vile cake. Somebody else could come in and say, I want you to create a cake for me that has demonic images on it because it's Halloween, and I really love demonic, sick images, ghoulish stuff. And you could say to them, well, you know, I'm a Christian,

and I feel uncomfortable with that. And there are other bakers down this. street or across town. I'm sure they'd be willing to do that for you. But you know what? I don't want to do that. In America, you can say that. In America, you can say all kinds of things. People can disagree. It is our right to say things. It is our right to disagree. But it is not our right to force people to agree with us. That's what's happening around America. And I want to tell you, folks, if we don't step up now, as in now, giving to the Alliance Defending Freedom now, something, you're going to have yourself to blame when this stuff gets uglier and uglier.

Now is the time to fight back. I write about it in my Bonhofer book. If you've read that book, you know, that the German Christians didn't speak up at first. They were very shy, very polite, very sweet. And then their rights were taken away and they couldn't speak up. I say this to you from the bottom of my heart. This is the right thing to do. So I'm saying please give to the lines defending freedom.

The one way you can give is you can just go to our website, metaxis talk.com at metaxistalkis talk.com. You'll see the banner for ADF. If you'd rather pick up a phone, I'd love for you to do that. And again, any amount, folks, we don't care. We're going to enter you in a grand prize drawing to win a ton of stuff, signed books, including my new 10th anniversary Bonhoffer edition. Oh, that's handsome. And we're going to enter you no matter how much you give. So you can call this phone number right now. I hope you will.

Please, we need you to help. We need everybody to do something. The number is 855-5-47-53-33-33. That's 855 547-53-33. I'll say it again. 855-547-5-4-7-53. We really need your help. America needs your help. Your fellow Americans need your help. Doesn't matter where you stand politically. This is the right thing to do, and any amount would be swell. So if you answered no to that question, please do that. God bless you.