The Eric Metaxas Show - Jesse Watters (Encore)

Episode Date: September 2, 2021

Jesse Watters shamelessly explains the amazing heroics found in his new book, "How I Saved the World" -- as well as comments on hot-button, current-event issues. (Encore Presentation)

Welcome to the Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Metaxus. Hey there, folks. As you know, I'm Metaxus, and this is my world. But there's a guy named Jesse Waters. He claims he came up with that whole concept, and I wanted to have it out with him. He's written a book called How I Saved the World. Jesse Waters, welcome to the program. Thanks for having me on, Eric.

I appreciate it. Well, it's a big sacrifice. I've been trying to avoid you for a long time, but this book got my attention. I kid, I watched you since you were doing your stuff with Bill O'Reilly to see you transition from that to what you're doing now. I want to say, I'm one of your biggest fans.

I have really, really been impressed, not just with what you say, but the way you say it. And because we live in a world where there are so few people doing what you're doing and saying things the way you are, I thought I want to point that out to my audience. So thank you.

Let's get into the book. It's called How I Save the World. How did you save the world, Jesse Waters? Tell us. I saved myself first because anybody that knows me needed, I know I needed saving. And this was after about 20 years at Fox News, starting in the basement, and now I get to sit next to Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. Both of whom are tiny, tiny people, incredibly tiny. Very tiny.

Now, by the way, you're not looking at the camera. I know you're new to this. I want you to look at the camera because I want people to see your happy, handsome face. There he is. See? Much better. Now, Jesse, seriously, you're on the five. You're with Juan Williams.

I got on a big rhubarb with Juan once on one of the Fox shows. But keep going. Sorry. A rhubarb. Well, I have to hear about this. So I got to a place in my life where I just wanted to tell these crazy stories about being at Fox. and going on these adventures to these liberal bastions of just insanity. San Francisco nude beaches and Martha's Vineyard.

And I wanted to tell these tales about ambushing bad judges and confronting celebrities and interviewing college students on the beaches and quizzing them about American history. And so I thought this was a great time to share it. During COVID-19, I had nothing else to do except write this book. So how I saved the world went to number one, its first week on the New York Times bestseller list. And we're still on the list. And it's thanks to you. And it's thanks to all the people that they bought it and read it.

And I'm just really grateful. Hey, I get 15%. I'm just in it for the money. Let me be honest. Now, look, I want to know where you come from. And my always want my audience to know. Where did you grow up and how did you get into this world of this business that you're in? I grew up in Philly.

inside the city, not center city, but East Falls, Chesa Hill area. And, you know, my parents were, I guess, upper middle class maybe, and just played a lot of sports growing up, regular kid. And then moved to Long Island when I was in high school. North Shore, they called the Gold Coast. We're in the North Shore. Now I'm dying to know, because I'm in Manhattan. I know that area very well. Yeah, so I went to Friends Academy in Locust Valley and Old Brookville area.

And that was a kind of a culture shock. And then went to Trinity College. In Hartford? In history major. In Connecticut. In Hartford, Connecticut. You got it. The lovely city of Hartford.

We have this in common because back in the 80s, when I was a child, I went to Trinity college before I transferred to the college in New Haven. But I got to tell you, I have an incredible fondness for Trinity. The area around Trinity in the 80s was very dangerous. If you walked to the downtown, you took your life in your hands. But what was your major at Trinity? I was a history major. Well, first I started off as a philosophy major, and then I got to Kant.

And I dropped philosophy and moved to history, and I majored and specialized in the imperial era, European imperialism, and enjoyed that era. Did you have Professor Gaddis? I don't remember. Maybe not. You didn't have Professor Highland. Island in philosophy, I'm just wondering if these folks were still there when you were there. I got the best. I was in guided studies, so I, you know, was English and history. And I just

want to say it was an excellent education at Trinity College in Hartford. I transferred to Yale, and Yale was horrible. I mean, I'm not even, I don't want to get into this because we're here to talk about you and your book. But I'm just fascinated to think that you're a product of Trinity College. Would you play lacrosse? Yeah, I played I think I I played for about a month And then I dropped off the team

I was just being sarcastic And you're telling me you did play some lacrosse Yeah, I yeah briefly And then dropped off the team And then just played like club football And you know the drill I just love getting to know people So like now I feel like I really know you Jesse Waters

I've always been wondered wondering like where you're coming from Okay so how do you get into Fox I mean how did that happen going from history at Trinity to working at Fox. Well, so I thought I'd try to make millions of dollars, because that's everybody at Trinity wanted to do, so they'd go get an investment banking job.

That's exactly correct. What you just said is exactly correct. I got fired from about three different banks because I couldn't do basic arithmetic, but I could sell. I would memorize these sales pitches, and I'd go in front of these sales teams and just talk about relative value investment.

investing and all these things. And I could sell it. But the minute they asked me a follow-up question, I came apart. I had no idea what I was talking about, but I could sell it. And then so I think I failed out of a few banks there and then worked as a bellhop at a hotel. And I learned about capitalism as a bellhop and made some tips there off, you know, didn't have to pay taxes on that. And then I came back and worked on the Pataki Rwaffe. re-election campaign and I was in charge of doing opposition research against

Elliot Spitzer who at the time was just sleeping with every prostitute. Not that that's wrong. We're not, we don't judge, you know. We don't judge married with kids and sleeping with prostitutes. The Pataki campaign. That's, that's what I was unable to discover about the opponent. And then I knew someone that knew someone and got a job at Fox and the rest is history. Well, I just want you to know when I was saying, we don't judge sleeping with prostitutes. I was being sarcastic. Now, look, this is, it's beautiful. I'm so glad. I normally do this when I have somebody on, because I just want to know kind of where they're coming from. So I found out all this cool stuff about you. And then you end up at Fox. When did you meet the great Bill O'Reilly from Levittown?

I was just a couple months in. I was in the basement making no money, no health care. And there was at opening on the radio factor. He said, you know, let's do an interview. And I went upstairs to do an interview with him during a commercial break. And he looked at my resume and he said, what's your father do? And I told him what my dad did. I think he thought I was like some product of, you know, some empire. And I told him what my dad did, not a banker.

And I think he was pleased. And then he got bored. And I think for God I was in the room. And I said, Bill, I read your latest. book. It was amazing. And all of a sudden, his head perked up and he said, you seem like a smart kid. You start Monday. So he hired me. Unbelievable. I love Bill O'Reilly. He's, he was a voice of reason, unlike anything I've ever seen. I mean, it was just so commonsensical. You know, it's kind of like watching Willie Mays do his thing and you realize like at that level, he makes it look easy,

but it's nobody else is doing it, really. So, uh, I'm just glad. that he brought you out of hiding in the basement. If only he could do that for Joe Biden. Imagine the incompetence that we could have. I just want to ask you, we've just got a minute here. What are your observations on the Biden administration? I understand you believe he was actually elected. You're wrong, but we don't want to talk about that.

We want to talk about what do you think, hey, how's he running the country? What do you think? Well, I believe there were shenanigans. and the mail ballots, that was a joke, but there was just, it was too hard to prove all of the irregularities in that context months after the election. So it is what it is. He's the president. But he's the president in hiding.

You know, he's always been able to hide. He hit in the Senate. He hit his VP. He hid during the campaign. Didn't campaign. He hit from COVID in the basement. And now it's his shot. And he owns everything.

And he's blowing it. He can't manage the border. He can't manage the border. manage the shots. He screwed up the vaccine confidence when he paused J&J. And he booted the withdrawal from Afghanistan. And we're seeing the results of his incompetence. And it's a shame. And we're going to have to deal with it. Do you have another six minutes or do you need to go? Yeah, we can do six. Okay. Folks will be right back. improve your memory with Vivalore, a premium quality all natural supplement with five to 20 times more nutrients than any other memory supplement.

Vivalor is V-I-V-O-L-R at Vivalore.com. Enter promo code 20 for 20% off. Vivalor.com, Vivalor.com. Hey, there's sports fans. I'm talking to Jesse Waters. Remember Waters world? That was his world. Here he is. Jesse Waters. You've written a book called How I Saved the World. You talk about a lot of stuff in this book. It's at number one, and I thought, you know, I would do you a solid, bring you on the program, and we're going to try to get my audience to purchase copies to bring it down lower than one, potentially to zero. And I don't know if that's possible, but we're going to try. Since you're a humanities guy, you're not tracking anyway.

So we're going to see how many books we can sell. But people I know who know you know that you're fun, you're feisty. Why do you think, seriously, there are a lot of people in the news who don't seem, or in commentary, who they don't seem to have the courage of their convictions. When I watch somebody like a Juan Williams, I just feel like he's kind of going through the motions. I guess let me ask you, do you think that he believes some of what it is that he's saying? I'm just not clear when I listen to somebody like that. Well, he's in a tough spot because you're outnumbered 4 to 1.

Imagine if I was on MSNBC and I had a panel show and I was the lone conservative, they'd have to pay me triple what they're paying me now because that's tough. And he did the best he could. He does a good job. And some of the stuff he must believe, I don't know how he can say some of the things he does. But that's Juan, you know, and he's a good sport about things. Yeah. And he does good television.

and he's done good television for Fox, and I respect them for that. I don't know. I don't remember whose show I was on. It's maybe a year or two ago. I think it was before COVID, actually. And I didn't know that he would be opposite me, and I respect him. I love him. But he said some stuff that just made me instantly mad.

Like he said, well, the violence we've seen at these Trump rallies. And he went on, and I just thought, that's the classic liberal talking points. It's not true. But if enough people say it, it becomes sort of a. emotionally true. Like people really believe it. And I was, I was just, anyway, we don't need to go into that. Do you think there's any possibility that Trump would be reelected in the next election? Well, let's see first how the midterms go. And I believe we're going to take the House and we have a good shot at taking back the majority in the Senate. So he's going to have to gauge the atmosphere at that point. Does he feel in two years that the country is in such rough shape where he could be seen as someone that can rescue the country again?

Because remember, he really did rescue the country from Hillary. That would have been a third Obama term, and that would have just sent this country off the clip. Isn't that where we are now, though? Well, if you could imagine Hillary having the opportunity for three more Supreme Court Justice, Dominion. nations. Just that alone, that she would have stacked the court in a way that you would have been able to recover from for decades. So if any, you could say anything about Donald Trump, but Donald Trump rescued the country from Hillary. So if you look in maybe two years, you're going to see still you're going to have open borders. You're likely going to have

crimes still spiraling. Who knows what you're going to see on the foreign policy realm? Is China going to move on Taiwan? We don't know. Are the NATO allies? is going to be under siege by Russia. We don't know. So gas prices, I don't know in my neck of the woods, they're almost 350. They were 250. He might just have to be the only option for the country.

And people might give him a second look. And I'll have to look at the polling right now. You've got to imagine Joe's looking at the polling numbers and just sweating bullets because I think he just went below 50 for the first time. And these polls are fake anyway. So if Joe's going below 50s, really probably in the low 40s. So, you know, we'll see what happens. Well, it's unbelievable to think.

I mean, what you just said, I love it when people say this stuff that I've been saying. I've been saying for years now that Trump rescued us from Hillary and the idea. You just said it, but I want to say it again. Ladies and gentlemen, three Supreme Court nominations. I know I can hear people saying, who cares? because they haven't done anything. That's another story. But you're right to point this out.

It's simply true. That is just monumental. It's dispositive. And imagine Hillary with the pandemic. So she would not have shut down flights from China. She probably wouldn't have used warp speed to the extent that Trump did. And she would have kept businesses and schools and sports just closed, shredding small businesses, destroying the economy, we would never have recovered.

In a way, Trump was so pro-business and so pro-freedom, kind of the perfect guy to reopen the economy after that month-long pause we had. Because if Hillary was there, she never would have reopened. And it would have permanently destroyed small business. Small business already got shellacked as it was, the hospitality and restaurant industry. So Hillary there, it would have been ugly. Hey, props to you for using the verb shellact. We like that. Okay, let me ask you, when we're talking about Joe Biden and Trump and the future, it seems to me that what Trump did is he sort of lifted the veil. We can all now see who the neocons are, what the deep state is. And it strikes me that your average American, the folks, as Bill would call them, they will no longer put up with whether, it's John McCain or Lindsay Graham or whatever. In other words, the idea, and those aren't the

worst, but the rhinos who have been kind of playing the game over the decades, Trump basically destroyed that. And I think American people think, if you're not going to be Ronda Santis, if you're not going to be heroic and speak out against this, we're done, we're not interested in you anymore. So I really do think that Trump on the populist level, make America great, again, He really changed things fundamentally so that we could never go to a Nikki Haley or a Mike Pence. Populism is polarizing. And that's not a negative thing to say. Populism makes Americans, especially politicians, take sides.

And what populism does is it shows a spotlight on reality. Are we getting ripped off by China? is the border secure? Our wages going up. Is their crime? If you put things in black and white like populism does, because ultimately populism is about the people, is about making sure the people of America are respected.

Not the people of China, not these large corporations that have no allegiance to this country, are the people of America being respected. And Trump put that out there in a way that was blunt. And for a lot of politicians, that was scary because most politicians like DeHem and Hall and hide, and they're squishy. They like to kind of straddle the fence.

You couldn't straddle the fence with Trump. You can't straddle the fence with populism. And in a way, that was disinfecting for the American people. And it just opened their eyes. Wait a second. Is the FBI working for or against us, right? are large corporations working for us or working for profits in China. That really hadn't been talked about before in a language that Trump used.

So it was scary, but it was honestly, it was kind of something the American people needed at the time. Well, as I say, I don't think we can go back. And I think people have woken up and they realize that a madness has taken over the culture via the cultural elites and the media. It would never take over on a grassroots level because it is madness, the idea that suddenly, you know, every fifth kid is confused about gender. And I mean, we all know it's madness. But the cultural elites say, no, no, it's not madness. And if you even say that it is, you're going to be canceled. I was canceled from YouTube.

The whole program, we had not 220,000 subscribers. The whole show was canceled because I was talking to Naomi Wolf about vaccine passports. She's a liberal. She was in my class at Yale. she was talking about that. They said, that's strike three, and they canceled us. So I think your average American is aware that we're living in a kind of madness. So the question is, can we get enough traction with media, with alternative media, so that we can take the country back just enough? That to me seems the fundamental battle. You're popular. These podcasts are popular. Talk radio is popular. Fox. has got better ratings than every single show on CNN. Right now, we're basically Fox's top 10 on everything. Rachel Maddow barely cracks the top 10 now. And it's because they lost their

credibility in order to drag Joe Biden across the finish line. They had a choice. Were they going to report on the Hunter Biden laptop, honestly? Or were they going to cover it up? They chose to cover it up to help Joe win the election. And then what happened after the election? We learned it was true. We learned all this stuff was true. We learned masks hurt children. We learned that Trump did not gas protesters for a photo up. All these lies, the bounties with these Russians in Afghanistan, it was all a lie. And now people are tuning in and they want to watch.

They don't want to watch people that have lied to you for, what, four years? The Smolett's, the Cabinnell hoaxes, all of this stuff. And I talk about this in how I saved the world. There's a book. Jesse Waters has written a book. It's called How I Save the World. Jesse, I appreciate your time. Obviously, we'd love to have you back.

You're just fun to talk to. God bless you, Jesse Waters. Folks, get a copy of How I Save the World by Jesse Waters. Jesse, thank you. Thanks, Eric. Hey, folks, I've got to tell you a secret about relief factor that the father, son, owners, Pete and Seth Talbot, have never made a big deal about, but I think it is a big deal.

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Thank you for having me, Eric. It's good to see you. I want, before we get into the conversation, I want people to know that we've had you on this program before to talk about the book, A Change of Affection. Folks, this is a huge issue. A Change of Affection, a Gay Man's Incredible Story of Redemption. Did you know that people struggling with same-sex attraction? can find redemption, that there are happy answers, happy outcomes. It's just important. Okay. Now, we need to talk about a movie that's on Netflix.

Tell my audience about this movie. Yeah, it's a movie I reviewed for the Gospel Coalition. It's called Pray Away. And it's, of course, you know, it's about the Exodus International Movement that started in the 1970s. and it's about gay you know homosexuals wanting to follow christ and wanting to rid themselves of any kind of same-sex attraction so they went through this they go through this program at exodus or they did and so the movie focuses on three ex-x gays so three people who were in the leadership top leadership of the of the ex-movement who were highly involved in the and claimed to be completely free of same-sex attraction, or at least the main head guy.

And he got married to a woman, had a family, and I think he had a family. And then now they've all come out as gay again, and he, all of them have basically become apostates. They've left the faith because, in my mind, I think I mean from the documentary it's it's obvious that

they were expecting their attractions to completely disappear and change to the opposite sex and that never really happened so they were so kind of disappointed and discouraged that all

of these people left the faith and of course Netflix latches onto this story because they want to denigrate you know obviously denigate Christianity in any way they can. And Ryan Murphy is one of the executive producers who he's basically putting out so much gay content on Netflix.

He got a $300 million deal with Netflix two years ago. And in the New York Times, he was quoted as saying he's going to spend the $300 million to promote and to celebrate LGBTQ heroes and heroines. Ryan's an old friend of mine. And so... Ryan's an old friend of yours. I want to talk about that.

His name is Ryan Murphy. He also created shows like Glee and American Horror Story. So much content. And now all of the shows on Netflix he has created are their LGBT stories. I just want to say we're covering a lot here. First of all, we're not surprised that Netflix would make this documentary. mocking the idea that you could be delivered in one way or another from the gay lifestyle. They don't like that narrative.

It's upsetting. And so they have to make fun of it or use whatever examples they can to see where it didn't happen the way it's supposed to. And I think we want to be honest about this, right, that this is complicated. Sexuality is tremendously complicated. Who knows why one person has an attraction to this or that? that or to this and that. We don't know. This is very complicated stuff. And so solving the problem, if there's a problem, is also complicated. It's not simple. So anytime Christians have made it sound especially simple, you want to say, hey, no, this is complicated. But the movie, pray away.

Tell us where they get that title from in case people aren't get tracking. Well, it's all about reparative therapy or quote unquote conversion therapy where you essentially pray away the Pray away the gay. They're making fun of the phrase, pray away the gay, or I guess they probably came up with that phrase, because it's, it sounds to them silly, it's not possible. I've always been this way. I'll never change. You can't pray away the gay anywhere more than you can turn a man into a woman. Oops, it's easy to do, just get some surgery and get different pronouns, right? But we're living in crazy times. So when you saw this documentary, the reason I wanted you on here is because you wrote about it from your perspective as somebody who was dramatically changed. So,

you know, your story is just your story. But what is your perspective on the story that they tell? You said it's an HBO film? It's a Netflix documentary. Well, my take, I critique not only the film, it's a terrible documentary. It's just, it's poorly made, number one, but number two, and it's not compelling. The narratives are not compelling. But number two, I differ from Milo in my approach to this idea. And see, the problem is, in my view, yes, because in my view, the gospel is not about ridding all of us of our temptations. Like, why would we have the Lord's Prayer if we were rid of all of temptation?

So the goal of, the goal of, for example, in my life is not heterosexuality. I lived as a gay man in Hollywood for many, many years. And I had, you know, I cycled through many boyfriends. And I, and 12 years ago, I walked into an evangelical church, had this dramatic road to Damascus encounter with God. Actually, we're going to a hard break here. That's what we call a cliffhanger. Folks, did you get that? We'll be right back.

Folks, I'm talking to Beckett Cook. Beckett Cook, you just shared something. Reprise the last couple of sentence. you were living as a gay man in Hollywood for a long time, and then one day. One day, I walked, 12 years ago, I walked into, I was invited to an evangelical church in Hollywood, and against my better judgment, I kind of just went. And I, when I heard the gospel preached, and after the, after the sermon, during the worship time, I had this radical kind of road to Damascus encounter with God completely changed my entire life, did it 180.

And I knew immediately that day that homosexuality was no longer my identity, that it was no longer a part of my future. Dating guys wasn't a part of my future, but I didn't care because I just met Jesus. And I'm like, I'm going with that guy. Like, forget those guys. Jesus is way better. And he's always faithful and he'll never leave it for sick. me so since that day i let's say my same-sex attraction before that day was at a hundred percent after that day god had so much grace on me that it barely it doesn't dominate my thought

life it barely i barely think about it every once in a while there'll be a moment of same-sex attraction but i'm not quote-unquote cured of that but i'm happy I'm more than happy to deny myself, to deny my desires, my sinful desires, take up my cross and follow Christ, no matter what. And I've prayed. I've prayed over the years, and I've had elders at my church pray over me for sexual healing, like for healing, for the sexual brokenness that I've experienced in my life because as a kid, when I was nine years old, I was molested by a friend's father. So I prayed for healing, but as Paul did,

when Paul prayed for the thorn in his flesh to be removed, God said, no, my grace is sufficient for you. My power is made perfect and weakness. And so for now, for now, God's grace is sufficient for me. I mean, it always will be, but I don't, the goal isn't heterosexuality. The goal is holiness for me. So I think that's where the Exodus movement went wrong, is they miss the forest for the trees.

They're so focused. focused on changing your desires and changing your attractions that they miss the gospel. So there's nothing wrong with trying to change your desires if it's possible. But what you're saying is it's not about what you feel or what your desires are. It's what you do. But I mean, look, I always have to say this because it's so, it's so strange how people don't think logically. Everybody is broken.

It's not just gay men that are broken. Everybody's broken. The only question is how. are you broken? How are you, basically, why do you have sin, how do you have sinful inclinations? What are they? Not whether you have sinful inclinations. Everybody does to do any number of bad things. And if you can get help and want to do those things less, you say, I would like to. I'm a compulsive gambler. I'm compulsive. I take a drug or something. I get addicted to it. How can I fix that? What can I do? So we all have problems. And then the question is, how do you

handle those problems. So you don't say to somebody who desires to have physical relations with someone other than his wife or her husband, you don't say to them those sinful desires. You know, either you get rid of those totally or you should probably act on those desires. You don't say that. Exactly. You don't say to a mother, you know, that man you met today who is so much nicer than your husband's been lately. and you felt this strong desire to be with him.

If you can't get rid of that desire, you need to be with him. Leave your husband and kids. We would never say that. So why do we apply that standard to people dealing with same-sex attraction? I'm not sure because the gospel doesn't offer us a temptation-less faith. We're guaranteed temptation. I mean, that's part of the process of the Christian life. And again, it's like, yes, I struggle.

on occasion with same-sex attraction, but that is not my identity. It's not, and I'm happy to deny that part of myself. I'm happy to deny those desires and not act upon those desires. The important thing is obedience to God. That's what is the essential thing. It's not whether you have this or that temptation. As you said, heterosexual men have temptation to probably sleep with many women, but that's we we don't act on our impulses well you wouldn't act as though having that temptation

must mean you should be with that person and follow the temptation you call it a temptation you say this is bad this will destroy my life my family if i pursue the temptation so of course you'd prefer not to have that temptation but if you have it you don't throw your hands up and say well let's just go with it um so it's It's just amazing to me that that's the message being sent to gay men. They bought in this, they bought this lie that they are fundamentally that way because of that attraction. Well, that's what, I mean, I look back on my life and it started at basically in high school where, you know, I started experimenting with same sex, with same sex. sex and and I look back on that and I just I just wish I had I wish I could relive that and not

act on those impulses. I wish there were had been somebody I mean my parents were were great parents but I wish there had been somebody in my life who kind of really laid it out for me like hey this is a destructive path you're going down and it's only going to lead to pain and it's only going to lead to possible, like very serious destruction. I mean, SDD, all kinds of things. And no one really ever did that with me. I mean, I was aware of the dangers of that life. But if I could go back and do it all over again and I did have same sex attraction, I would not have acted. I wouldn't have acted on, even though it would have been very difficult, I would not have acted on that. Well, that's, that's the point.

right that we're dealing with this is real this is difficult um you could say the same thing about uh being attracted to the opposite sex if you do that before marriage um you can get sucked into a pattern that is very destructive to you to other people now there's forgiveness but the idea that people just you feel the attraction go with it it's who you are that is a complete uh deconstruction of what it means to be a human being. But that is kind of what the narrative is. The kind of radical gay narrative has been that narrative. We're going to a break.

We're going to keep you over into the next hour. I hope you can stay. Can you stay? Yeah, I can stay. Well, then we'll keep you. Don't go away, folks. Folks, we've got something very strange to share with you. Albin has been combing the known world for oddities,

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I have. And what have you found? Okay. Nutraceuticals. That's a great word. I'm holding in my hand a brand of crinkle cut paper potato chips. Okay. And I was eating them. I was eating them.

I said, boy, these are good taste in potato chips. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You have in your hand An empty bag of potato chips If it's an empty bag How's it a empty bag of potato chips? It's just an empty bag that once held potato chips But you've brought it in

I did as show and tell for the program Because you read something on it That is Defying to logic It is mind-blowing And I don't know if my audience folks sit down Because this is going to freak you out This is kettle brand potato chips

Yes it is crinkle cut Crinkle cut Okay Albin Yeah Share with our audience. All right. What have you discovered? Okay.

It's a new bag because on the front it says new look, same great taste. Okay. Hold it. It says new look. Yep. Same great taste. So the taste of what's in the bag is the same as it's always been. It looks different because it's a new bag, but it says new look, same great taste.

And yet. And yet across the way on the same bag. On the same bag. It says bolder and crunchier. So is it the same or is it bolder and crunchier? No matter how you slice it, they're lying. Yeah. Because it can't be, if it's bolder and crunchier, folks, it's not the same great taste.

On the left hand side it says same great taste. But if it's bolder and crunchier, that is a lot. Now, if it really is the same great taste, then it's not bolder and crunchier. I rest my case. I know, but I think I know how it happened. It's the two ends of the graphic department. One end said it was the same. The other side said it was bolder and crunchier.

But they never came together. They never came together. We need unity, people. I know. That's what it's about. Unity. I just can't. Now, when did you find this album?

Because this is crazy. You don't really go combing the world. You just happen on these things. Well, yes, that's true. Because years ago, I had picked up an apple pie. And on the front, it said, contains no real fruit. And then, like on the back, said 10% real fruit.

And I was like, what, okay, what is it? Wait, first of all, how could it be an apple pie if it contains no real fruit? How is it called an apple pie? I don't, I'm not sure. I was like, well, are these genetically made? Like, you know, today they've got that phony beef. And I'm thinking this is a precursor. But what is in it?

Well, it tasted like apples. I think there was a mistake on the front, you know. You just think it was a typo? I think it was just, it was probably the packaging from a former apple pie. And then they improved it just like this. But it said contains 10% real fruit. First of all, either one is disturbing. An apple pie with no real fruit is, that's just weird.

But an apple pie with 10% real fruit. I mean, I can understand if it says apple drink and that it says contains 10% real apple juice. But how can a pie? And contains no juice. I mean, what is in it that has the texture of an apple? I think it might be tofu. I mean, really? I had saved.

I'm not kidding. I saved this for the longest time. and I said, one day I'll be on a show and I can share this. And pretty soon when I got married, my wife was throwing all these things out. Don't you hate that? I hate it. What is with these ladies? Always cleaning up.

It's wrong, I tell you. I tell you. Hey, folks, thank the Lord we're out of time.