The Eric Metaxas Show - Joel Berry

Episode Date: October 18, 2023

Joel Berry shares the book "The Babylon Bee Guide to Gender".

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Welcome to Hour 2. We're going to do something lighter because talking to Larry Taunton about Hamas was kind of heavy. And so in Hour 2 today, I'm going to interview Joel Berry of the Babylon B. The Babylon B is a trusted source of fake news. And he and Kyle Mann have written a book called The Babylon B's Guide to Gender. I'm going to interview him about that. And I think prepare to be shocked and entertained and then shocked again and then entertained and then

shocked. And I think perhaps entertained after that, but I can't remember because we just did the interview and we're going to run it in a few minutes. Chris Heimes. Yes, sir. It's a crazy week. I found myself in Augusta, Georgia. I don't know how I got here, but here I am.

You're an honorary southerner at this point for the amount of time that you've spent, you know, Texas, now Georgia. I think, I think so. I feel like the Greek version of Foghorn, Leghorn. I'll say that's crazy. Yeah, that's, I'll say, I'll say, well, I'm in Augusta, Georgia. Tonight, I'm speaking at a pregnancy center banquet here in Augusta, Georgia. If you're in Augusta, Georgia, they probably still have tickets. I'm going to be speaking tonight here.

I guess, you know, after this, I fly to Houston. I'm speaking at a prayer breakfast in Conroe, Texas on Thursday morning. After that, I go to Johnson City, Tennessee. And I don't know why. Actually, I do know why. I've got a big event at Bethlehem Lutheran, Friday night. That's this October 20th. So a lot of stuff and then tons of stuff next week. It's been a busy time. But the crazy thing when you travel is you have these hotel experiences

and you have, I mean, the travel experience, whether it's the traveling on the plane, the hotel or the event itself, if you do enough of it, you know, you begin to find yourself judging one, like, because there are all these different experiences. It's comparative, yeah. And I'm at a Marriott in Augusta, Georgia, and I had an experience last night, which was unpleasant, and I'd like to share it with the group. Can I share it? Sure.

Let's hear it. Okay. How unpleasant was it? You want to hear it? You're man enough to hear this story? I don't know where it's going to go, but I'm always up for a good story. Well, basically, I get to my hotel room, and I'm exhausted. I'm really exhausted.

And they make it sound like a really nice hotel room. They say, oh, it's a king suite. And I go, oh, king sweet, yeah. That sounds big. That sounds pretty sweet. And, but anyway, let me just say, not so much, right? But, I mean, it's, it's technically a king suite, but it's not what you think of when you think of a king sweet. But here's the point.

I thought, you know what? To get here, it's like I had to walk like a thousand miles. You ever walk like a thousand miles in a hotel carrying your luggage or dragging your luggage on a carpet, right? Like your whole upper body, you get a big upper body workout. Like it's a vast, like, I don't know. So, you know, I finally get them exhausted, whatever. And I thought the restaurant is like 5,000 miles away.

But that's where I came in like a thousand miles ago. So I guess I have to go back there or whatever. So I thought, you know, what, I will, I will, I will call, I'll order some food and I'll go back without my luggage. So it won't be as bad of a walk. Yeah. I'll like a workout. I'll get some food, get some food, right? So I, how do you get the food? Is there, is there a menu in the room? No, of course not. No, you got to go online. Can you get online? Good luck. If you get online, how do you find it, you know, it's just endlessly complicated. Finally, you know, you just feel exhausted just getting to the menu, right?

And then I thought, okay, I'm going to call the restaurant. And, you know, so I call the restaurant, I get an automated fake person, a person who's not a person. And you sure it wasn't just a robotic, like wooden human. And it was, I wish that it were, because I could talk to that kind of a person. But they, so you're talking to, you know, it's kind of like an AI thing, right? And like they'll say, like it's kind of like the, the did see 25 year old woman that they're pretending to be aware, where she says, sorry, I didn't quite get that. Like, but you're talking, it's a robot, right?

So I said I'd like to... Sounds like you wanted to order some food or a shoe. So I'm already ticked. I'm already ticked having to talk to a machine. And so the machine has said, so are you interested in the, you know, Augustino restaurant or the Augustino grill? And I said, either, either one that does not compute. I'm sorry.

Are you interested in the Arkansas? No, no, right? And you're like, either one, it doesn't matter. And I'm speaking clearly in a standard American accent. But like it was this insane. I just thought, and the problem is when you're talking to an automated person who's not a real person, there's no one to murder. You know, in other words, you're angry and you think, well, somebody needs to be killed as a result of this because this is so horrible, justice needs to be done. but there's no actual person to throttle.

And that's what got me that there was no person. So eventually they sent me to an actual human being. And the worst human being is better than an automated human being. And so, of course, you know, I got my little salad. But the insanity of it was, it was, it's just unbelievable. So Marriott, that's evil. You need to repent of that evil Marriott. Hey, talking to you, I say, Marriott.

Yeah. It's like a just It's like a sci-fi horror, you know. Very bad. Mr. and Mrs. Marriott, old man Marriott, whoever runs Marriott, you're participating in evil in the dehumanization of human beings, which is the worst kind of dehumanization. So a lot of futurists look at, you know, what is going to be the event that's going to make the robots and humans fight, you know, for survival.

Yeah. I'm just going to get a gun and shoot the phone. I'm going to be like Elvis. I'm going to shoot the TV. Maybe you started it. Maybe he started the war. I think I started the war. I think the bots are coming after me.

I can hear them clacking on the roof right now. All right. So we've got to say this. Before we have fun talking to Joel Berry, the Babylon B, and it's going to get insane, promise you, because we already recorded it. It gets crazy up in here. There's a quiz involved.

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Joe, welcome. Thanks for having me, Eric. I appreciate it. Bill, you guys at the Babylon B, a lot of the stuff you write is not true. And I've got a problem with that. Are you aware that you're spreading misinformation and you're, why? Why do you do that? What's, what's, yeah.

Well, it's, it's wild that there's this, this ironic transformation that's taken place with what we do. I mean, like you said, nothing that we've ever published has been a true, actual, real story. But I hear more and more people. telling us that we are like their primary news source now. Like they'll open up the Babylon B in the morning. And sometimes they won't even know what news story that we're referring to. And then they kind of have to go check the news to see what it is. So we break stories to people now because I guess we're the most trustworthy

journalists out there, it would seem. People used to say this about the Daily Show, which was left wing hackery, not that there's anything wrong with that. There's a place in every crumbling society for left-wing hackery. But I'm glad that people are getting their news from the Babylon B, even if it's full of lies. And also, there's truth in it. That's the beauty. Every lie contains a nugget of truth.

That's the beauty of it. Now, the Babylon B is a phenomenon. But we're here, Joel Berry, to talk to you about a new book that are you the only author or are you one of the authors? No, no. So me and Kyle Mann wrote the manuscript. I think you mean Kyle Mann and I. I understand you're new to the country.

Kyle and I. Thank you. If you read any of our articles, you'll understand that English is not our strong suit at the Babylon. But it is your first language. I'm going to hold you to this. I'm going to hold you to this. So Kyle Mann and I,

which is to say, Joel, the two of you. wrote a book which is a guide to gender? We did, yeah. So we wrote the manuscript and then we have a team of artists that really kind of made it come alive. So we have a creative team.

Is it a real team or do you just say that? They're not like a. No, it's a real team. Yeah. People we hired, we pay them a certain amount of money, I think. But they're not like in uniforms and stuff, different kind of team. No, nothing like that. Right.

Yeah. So, yeah, so we decided to write this book last year. It just seemed like a kind of a natural thing. I mean, the Babylon B jokes about this subject all the time. It's kind of a very big conversation in the culture right now. And the funny thing is, too, you really don't have to exaggerate gender theory that much for it to read as satire. So we didn't have to do a lot of work in reading this or in writing this. So, you know, anytime we can do something without working that.

much. It's a win for us. That's the goal. Some people would say right now, Eric, what you're doing doesn't seem like work. Oh, it's work, but it doesn't seem like work. Let me ask you, Joel, so we're living in crazy times. Everyone knows that gender is not even a thing. There's sexes. There's men and there's women. That's about it. There's roosters. There's there's bulls and cows. Like it's kind of simple, but crazy people have made it very complicated. And you and Kyle Mann, the two of you and your team, have put together a guide to help us through this difficult season.

Yeah. So we wanted to try to help kind of educate people, because I know a lot of people are very confused about this subject. And it is a confusing subject. I don't know how successful we were in making sense of it all, but it is a fun read. I will say that. I don't know if you'll learn that much, but it's a very fun read. Learning is overrated.

Yeah, I would say it's probably the most immature thing that we've ever created. What? Wait, what? That should be like a starburst on the cover of the book, most immature Babylon B product ever. That's a big telling. That's a good selling point. I mean, when you go on our site and you read our headlines, you read our articles, I think that's probably our writers at their most restrained and their most mature.

And the fun thing about these books is we can just kind of unleash them. And it's complete anarchy when you read this book, just like gender theory. So what are some of the things that you do say in the book? For those of us who believe that a rooster, for example, cannot lay an egg. What would you say to me? How can this book help me to understand that in this day and age, a rooster can lay an egg and have his picture taken on the cover of Vanity Fair by Annie Leibovett? It can happen.

It really can happen. Yeah, so we start out the book, chapters one and two. We discuss the original, kind of the lame, boring, original genders, male and female. and we really emphasize how boring and lame that they are to really kind of drive the point home that if you believe in two genders, you are boring and lame. And then in chapter three, we kind of dive, we jump off the diving board into the kind of the wacky wild. Hitler believed in two genders, folks.

Do you understand? See, you're exactly. Be very careful. That's exactly right. You're getting it. You're getting, see, I can tell you've read our book. And so we kind of formated the book, almost like a religious, you know, study guide. So at the end of each chapter, there are reflection questions.

You can kind of, as you're being deprogrammed, you can kind of, you can write down some of your thoughts and journal as you go on this journey of illumination and become one of the good people who believe in gender theory. Do you want to share any of these thoughts with us? Can you share? Have you gotten permission from Kyle to share any of the stuff that's in the book on this program? Yeah, well, so I have to share this because this is really funny. We have a chapter on the family here. And we talk about the nuclear family and how it's a remnant of a cruel patriarchal God who wants to kind of enforce his will on us.

And we are meant to resist. We're meant to rise up against this, you know, this colonizing God and redefine the family and remake it in our own image. And I kind of, I talk about the, you know, the first nuclear family, Adam and Eve, and how oppressive it was and how Eve was really the first feminist. And I wrote this in all seriousness now. I wrote this like as over the top as I possibly could as a joke. a couple days ago on Twitter,

I saw, I think it was an Episcopalian female pastor preaching through Genesis. And her sermon was like copy paste from this chapter from the Babylon B. So it's this weird thing that we see where reality and satire have just kind of like, we're at the singularity where it's hard to distinguish between the two. You know, what's interesting is we've never been here, before, and we don't know where this goes. When crazy people get control of things, obviously, reality is stubborn. And so you can only kick against the goads for so long before you really hurt your foot and limp away. And they're kicking really hard. And that's what you wonder.

In other words, the idea, first of all, the idea that, you know, an Episcopal priest is a woman, allow me to mock that. I grew up with a Greek Orthodox Church. As far as I'm concerned, if you don't have a beard, you have no business being near the altar. That's right. But in all seriousness, some of the mainline Protestants are the luniest by far. And they've gone out on a limb that is dramatically unbiblical. They're not just differing in small ways. They're creating their own narrative.

Where do they think, in other words, when you talked about this Episcopal priestess, where does she get the idea that she can be? end the narrative in this way. Do you remember some of the things she said? Yeah, well, she said that reinterpreting scripture through a feminist lens has changed her life and that the God that she worships empowers, you know, empowers women. And it's, of course, you know, the God that we worship empowers women, too. It's such a weird, you know, I think the word empowers is the cliche of our generation. Like any word is used, I wince, because it's such a meaningless, you might as well say,

I love Big Brother or Heil Hitler. The word empower is just one of those horrible, horrible words. But please continue. But the crazy irony in what she was saying in the sermon was she eventually came to this point where God was the villain of the story and the snake was the agent. for, you know, helping humanity, you know, find their voice and their agency and their autonomy. I mean, she essentially- First of all, they turn the snake into a Jiminy cricket figure.

Yeah, yeah. They're taking the side of the snake. But, no, but look, there's nothing new here, right? This is basically, it's the New Age lie that God is the villain and that we, like Prometheus, have to steal good stuff from God who wants to keep us down,

man. It's not like we've never heard this before. I'm talking to Joel Barry of the Babylon B. A trusted source of fake news. We'll be right back. Tell me why

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That you were writing a parody in this book. You're trying to be funny. You're making fun of the insane woke left's view of things. And then you find the lunacy of what you're saying coming out of the mouth of a woman who's been ordained in the Episcopal Church. Yeah. Yeah. And it's something that we see often at the bee.

I mean, we try to be. as exaggerated and over the top as we can. But without fail, there's going to be someone out there that meets the challenge and manages to be just as absurd as we are. Well, so let's be clear, because I've actually been writing about this myself in a very serious book that's going to come out, I guess, in maybe in April. But the lie, right, the lie in the garden is that the snake is our friend. right so satan says i don't believe god he put you in this paradise but he really wants to keep you

down man and trust me uh i'm i'm a snake literally and i want to help you to be free of this annoying uh suffocating paradise and so he he he tricks foolish eve into buying a lie that if only they disobey God, it would be a freeing, liberating thing. And there are many people who kind of buy that idea. And again, you get that story, the Prometheus story, the ancient Greeks have that. I think a lot of cultures have that story. And in those stories, which are all fallen and pagan, they posit the gods as being just like us only worse. And we have to free ourselves from them, as opposed to the narrative in Genesis, which is that God wants to bless us

and we are too stupid to accept the blessing. You're exactly right. You know, I mean, Paradise Lost, you see a lot of the same themes with Satan. And you look at the way people who have bought this gender lie, this gender theory lie, people who take it to its logical conclusions and drug themselves

and mutilate their bodies. They come out the end of it, and their life is a living hell. I mean, they are plagued with horrific health issues and mental illness and a lot of misery, but they have asserted their own will over the will of their creator, and that's really what matters. It's like it's that classic, you know, better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven. And that's the philosophy of transgenderism. You know, I'm going to live in my own personal hell.

But as long as my own will and my own autonomy are rule the day, then that's the way I'm going to live. That is very well put because that's exactly what it is. And it is, I always think, I mean, first of all, the Milton line from Paradise Lost, yes, Satan's line, better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven. I think that guy has daddy issues, but when you think about it,

I always quote Pink Floyd when they say, did you exchange a walk-on part in the war for the lead role in a cage? Like it's the lead role in the cage. You're the star of the show, but you're in a cage. and God wants you to free you from that cage and to call you to a grand adventure in which we get to play a part on the side of good.

And of course, some people say, no, I want to be the star my show, even though I'm in a cage. And when you talk about transgender, I mean, this is where it gets very serious. People have been deceived and it harms them. And so our hearts do have to break genuinely. Yes.

Or people who have bought this lie that is being pushed by very, very greedy doctors, really evil, greedy doctors, the mingalas of our age, who are telling a man, you know what, I can build you a vagina. No, no, no, seriously, I don't want to know how they do that, but I want to say, I don't think you can do that. But they convince people, if you pay me enough money, I'll give it a shot. Let me take a shot. I think I can give you a vagina. But what I want to know, and this is where we get into serious Babylon B territory, if you're a biological male originally, is what you get a vagino? Would that be the correct term?

Is that the correct term? Is that in your glossary in the Babylon B's guide to gender? If you're Hispanic, I think the proper word is vagino. Yeah. Wow, I felt really weird saying that. I know. There's also mangina, mangina. It's like bro.

It's like progina. It's like, bro, manseer, bro, grow, man's ear. We're getting, we're getting still. That's good. Well, we do have a glossary at the end of the book with helpful illustrations to kind of, you know, drive the point. home we talk about you know neopronounds uh you know what gender fluid means gender binary um you know what a furry is um wait a minute wait a minute this is a family show and i will not

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The Essential Church is streaming today exclusively at SalemNow.com. That's Essential Church, streaming at SalemNow.com. Ladies and gentlemen, I apologize in advance for the content of this show. My guest is Joel Berry. Joel Barry, I apologize to you for me being the host and having a silly conversation. And I apologize to myself for having a silly guest like Joel Barry in this otherwise august program discussing a book called the Babylon Bee's Guide to Gender. Now, guide, the word guy is in there. feel like you're misgenering the book, even by calling it a guide.

Yeah, well, you know, I think I would recommend to people if they are triggered by that word, throw an X in there, replace the U with an X. I don't know how you pronounce that. But usually you can just kind of throw an X, a random X in place of a vowel for a word to make it less problematic. So that's what I would recommend. We can send you some stickers, some X stickers. Just by having an X in my last name, I feel gender fluency.

it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's a very progressive Greek name that you have there. You need to replace the A with another X. Nobody's going to pin me down, okay? I can be whoever I want to be today. And I feel like I want to be a kitty cat or a lion maybe later. I don't know. But I think having that X in my name frees me, and I recommend it. Yes, I agree. So in this book, the Babylon B's Guide to Gender, you said there's a glossary of terms. And at the end, you use the word furry. I don't know. Is the world so nuts now that this is the thing that we need to talk about, that there are crazy people who use terms like that?

I want to cry. I guess that's why we have to laugh and write books like you've written. Yeah, we do have to laugh at this stuff. I think, you know, obviously there's some very serious, tragic things going on with this whole lie that's pervading our culture right now. But we have to laugh at it. And that's why we wrote the book. I mean, you know, this whole idea is very silly. It deserves mockery. And I think that it's good for the soul to, you know, there's a lot of hand-wringing, a lot of worrying that goes on. And rightly so when we see what's going on in the culture.

but I think it's almost like this big, it's this big Goliath that seems so hard to defeat. But I think laughter is one of our best weapons. And it's very hard to stand up to laughter. The left has known this for a long time. Saul Olinsky wrote about it. You can't defend yourself against satire and mockery. And so people need to laugh. And you'll learn some things in this book.

But I think it brings some much needed leverage. to the whole subject. And so we hope that it serves the reader well in that way. In the book, do you talk about the history of where this came from? Because like 20 minutes ago, nobody was talking about transgender. It pretty much didn't exist at all. Like once every 40 years, some person would decide, I want to switch from being a man to being a woman.

it could happen. I think Christine Jorgensen in the 1950s, the tennis player, Renee Richards in the 1970s, and then we leap to Bruce Jenner. Other than that, it's pretty much not a thing. So do you talk about where this came from,

who was stirring this pot to make this a thing? Because it does seem like a poison that's been released into the future. Yeah, we do talk a little bit about, you know, some of the godfathers of this ideology, money and Kinsey and basically just a bunch of perverts that had happened to have advanced degrees and wrote a few books. And so, you know, it kind of trickled down from there. And it was kind of percolating in the university for many decades, as you know, and it just kind of burst into the scene very suddenly. It seemed sudden

to the general culture, but it had been it had been working its way. through for a long time before that. Well, it's interesting. I mean, I wrote a book called Is Atheism Dead? Because it occurred to me that in 1966, a very similar thing, a crazy thesis, the idea that there's no God, suddenly in 1966, Time Magazine puts it on America's coffee tables and says, you know, is God dead? And that idea, as you say, had been percolating in the crazy laboratory of

the universities for decades, but they weren't ready to make it public. They weren't ready to go mainstream until 1966 and to dump this unbelievably depressing stupid idea into America's living rooms with, you know, in Time Magazine is atheism. I mean, is God dead? And that's kind of what happens with all of these bad ideas. They percolate through the universities. And it's the trickle-down culture theory. And that's basically what happened here. Now, there was no sane person living their lives was taking any of this seriously. And then suddenly somebody decides, some cabal of people decide, oh, now's the time. Now's the time. We got to get, who can we get? Can we get Bruce Jenner to be a lady? Sure, why not? Let's get, I believe it's to take a picture of him.

We'll put it on the cover of Vanity Fair. It's exciting. You know, it's kind of the 20 years early, Here, they did it with Anne Hache and Ellen DeGeneres, you know, the Yupp, a gay cover of Time magazine. Like, they decided like, now's the time. Let's put it out there. But it's, I don't know. So, yeah, it's. People aren't really buying it.

But of course enough people are, which is why we need to mock it. And that's why we're talking about the Babylon B's new guide to gender. Pick up a copy. No, no, no, no. really pick up a copy. Joel, what else is in the book that we need to talk about that we need to talk about? Yeah. So one of the important sections of this book is for anyone who's confused about their gender and confused about who they are attracted to, we have some handy guides to help you determine what your gender is, as well as whether or not you're a man or a woman and also

who you should be attracted to. The attraction section is literally just a dart board full of different genders that you can throw a dart at to determine who you're attracted to. It really is that arbitrary. I think one of the main themes of this book is just the arbitrariness of it all. It really, uh, meanings, definition, logic, consistency, none of it really matters as long as you swallow the theory wholesale, um, you know, like a cult. Um, so for example, let's see. Not that we're criticizing cults. There's a lot of good people, uh, in a lot of demonic, cults, and I don't want anybody to walk away from this program thinking that we're dissing people

who lead cults or are cult members very important. I'm talking to Joel Barry of the Babylon B. The new book is Guide to Gender. The Babylon B's Guide to Gender. It's insane, and we'll be right back. Forget the price. Hey, get rhythm. When you get the blues, come on, get rhythm. When you get the blues, get a rock. Welcome back. I regret to inform you, and I'm still talking to Joel Berry, Babylon B.

He and Kyle have written a book called the Babylon B's Guide to Gender. I don't want to be here any more than you do. I don't want to be talking about this any more than you do, but we got to get through it. Let's get through it together. How can we get through the remainder of this program? What do you recommend? Well, let's, for anyone who's out there who thinks they might be a woman and is just not sure,

we have a handy test that you can take. In the series of questions in the book. There's a test, okay? Yes. Yes. So this is free for your listeners. This is a huge benefit. this will help clear up a lot of confusion for for women out there or potential women.

So let's go through some of these. So still not sure you're a woman. Let's take the test. Question one. Are you always cold? That's question one. All right. Excuse me.

That's very funny. Two, has a human ever popped out of you? Three. Wow. You know, now that you mentioned it, that's a good one. Okay, keep going. Three, have you ever decorated a bed with six or more? more pillows.

If, and you are nailing it. Keep going. Be honest, Eric. I want to know what your bed. Yeah. All right. Question four.

Can you tell the difference between cream white and rustic farmhouse white? If you can, you might be a woman. Uh-oh. Yeah. Keep going. Yep. All right.

Have you run into a curb in the last 24 hours? Okay. That's the best. That is so awesome. Okay. Question six. Do you bleed like for an extended period of time at regular intervals? Um, okay.

Question seven, does it take you over three hours to decide what you want to eat? Question eight, are you currently... I know my question would be a killer question to determine whether someone is a man or woman. Do you love the three stooges? I love the Three Stooges. Well, most men do, and most women hate the Three Stooges. I don't know why. That's interesting.

It's the fact of nature. God breathed it into the world we call this world, and here we are. Okay, what else? Yeah, yeah. Are you currently a member of at least three pyramid schemes? If you are, that's indicator you might be a woman. Question nine, do you find simple movie plots hard to, follow.

Okay. I just think the last two are insulting. And on behalf of my women friends, I want to say, I protest on your behalf. See, that's the secret. This was our sneaky way of getting all these really sexist, misogynist jokes into a book. So question 10, do you frequently describe your emotional state as fine when you are not, in fact, fine? Question 11.

Is your Starbucks drink order? anything other than black coffee. If so, you might be a woman. And then the last question, question 12, do you listen to Harry Styles? Do you know who Harry Styles even is? If so, you might be a woman. And we have a handy guide, depending on how many questions you answered yes to.

It's a sliding scale, obviously. What will give you the likelihood that you are or are not a woman based off of that information. So the book is full of really handy, insightful information just like that. You should also put in, are you lactating? Are you lactating now? What about now? Okay. What about now?

Are you lactating now? You know what? I'm really, really glad to say we're out of time. We're out of time. I've had enough of this nonsense. This is a serious show. I don't know how you got on here. Folks, Joel Berry is with the Babylon B.

They've written a guide to gender, and that's the last we're going to say about it. Joel, thank you very much. Thanks for having me here.