The Eric Metaxas Show - John Zmirak and Charlie Kirk

Episode Date: June 8, 2020

John Zmirak shares his latest articles from Stream.org with his commentary on all the craziness tearing down the country; and Charlie Kirk points out the "woke madness" forced on the nation from America's colleges.

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Hey, folks, welcome to Monday. I'm the official welcomeer to the week. Welcome to Monday. Albin, I'd like you to feel welcome today. It's Monday. The weekend is over. It is. And this is the beginning of what I like to call a new week.

And if you're listening, folks, well, of course, if you're listening, you can hear my voice. But we have a lot to cover here. First of all, let's start with some good news. In just a moment, we get to process things with our dear friend, John. Zmirak. John is a genius. I don't like to say that, you know, when he's on, because I don't want to embarrass him, but he's a genius and a rare gift. And I'm so grateful that he's able to be on this program roughly once a week. He's just terrific. So he'll be on a couple of minutes. In hour two, we've got a fire-breathing dragon who goes by the name of Doug Giles. And we're going to have some fun

with Doug. Let me tell you. If you don't have fun with Doug on, you're not paying attention. Later on this week, Albin, listen to this. Listen, we've got Victor Davis Hansen coming on this program. Whoa. My mind is blown. No, seriously. He's, wow. And then if that's not good enough, we've got Pat Boone coming back. Oh, no. Like, is this, is this real or am I dreaming? Pat Boone? Pat Boone, who wears white, shoes. Pat Boone, we're going to have him on this program. He's friends with Elvis. He's going to be on the program. I guess so. So we've got a lot coming up this week. But let's talk, let's process here what happened this weekend. You want to start, what was your weekend like? Because America

is one of the weirdest times, literally in its entire history. Yeah. A half centuries. What about your weekend? Well, I sent you an email this morning, as you know, and it was dovetailing off of an email that came from your chief of staff, Alyssa. And this is what I wrote. I just want to share some of this with our audience because I was, this is what I wrote to you. I said, I'm overwhelmed with sadness and depression today because of our country and because of our churches taking a need to bail.

I was going to tell a joke this morning about how the church's sermon this weekend I heard on the air was First Kings, 1918, about, you know, there were 7,000 that did not take a knee to bail. And also about how they played a tune and we did not dance. But in this case, in America and the churches, they played a tune and we danced like crazy. We were regular disco ducks. Yeah, okay. This is great. We were boogeying down to the music of Beelzebub in a good way. Always in a good way. Let's frame things positively. Always. I mean, look, you're going to give me a chance to talk. about what you're talking about because you're kind of setting me up but I want you to tell

because I was on Twitter more than I normally am this weekend and also on Facebook. I'm back on Facebook, praise God. And I'm putting out a lot of stuff. So I've got a number of things that I want to say. If I don't get to them in this first segment, we'll do it at the end of. And I apologize. And I apologize. I did not read your tweets or Facebook.

I was so depressed over this weekend. I said, I got to get away from this. And I could tell you briefly about what happened in Terrytown. Although, let me tell you, and I'm not joking, if you had read my tweets and what I put on Facebook, I think you would have been encouraged. The reason I do most of what I do is to try to help encourage people because this is a particularly tough time.

So I say that in generally, but now in particular, what I'm putting on Twitter and on Facebook and hopefully what we do on this program is to help people, to encourage people how to think about what we're going through and how to drown out the voices that are, that are in fact, depressing and discouraging. But go ahead. You live in Terrytown. What happened? I do. I live in Terrytown. And so I was driving to the restaurant with my wife. We ordered something for takeout, you know, to help encourage my favorite restaurant Bridgeview Tavern, you know, while this is going on. And there were about 200 or 300,

people blocking the traffic where I was supposed to go. And of course, they were holding up their signs. Black Lives Matter. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. You live in Terrytown. Yes. Because I know Terrytown, this is like hilarious. There was a protest in Terrytown. Yes. Now, in all honesty, there are not poor sections of town, but like less. I mean, there's no depression and there's no, like, bad part of town.

You can go to any part of town. I don't mean that. I just mean the idea. When I think of protests, I think of New York City. I think of Pittsburgh. But you're talking about Terrytown, which is a sweet suburb north of here. Okay. This is my eyewitness account.

And I'm just reporting what I saw seriously. I would say almost all the people. I saw no quote unquote black people in the crowd. I saw all, and they were mostly young women. I'd say about 20 years old. young women pumping their fists, Black Lives Matter, like that. Ann and I had to go another way to the restaurant. And as we go to another way to the restaurant, we pass a park.

There's a nice little park there. There were two people, I just registered my head. Hey, there's a couple people having a picnic today. This is nice. It was 75 degrees, beautiful weather. As we passed, Anne said, did you notice those were two black people having a picnic in the park? And I thought this is really hysterical. This is fun.

obviously don't believe the black lives matter. They're enjoying themselves in a free country. That's white privilege. They did people. They must not have a white mirror in their house. They have no, conscience, Albin. They have no conscience. They would have been there with those white young people.

So this really happened. In Turytown, you see a lot of young, white, woke people protesting Black Lives Matter. Now, look, we got to make some points here because this is such a difficult time. I want to be careful. We believe Black Lives Matter, but we don't believe in the movement called Black Lives. That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, in this day and age, you have to be very, very careful not to get sucked in by propaganda. Who would say that Black Lives Don't matter? Of course, Black Lives Matter. If you don't believe Black Lives Matter, something is wrong with you. But if you agree with the movement and the group called Black Lives Matter,

those people, to my mind, are bringing tremendous harm to the black community in America. And why have they taken the name Black Lives Matter? It's why anybody does anything. It's why the East Germans call themselves the Democratic German Republic. They call themselves that. Okay, they were communists, red communists. So just because somebody calls themselves something, so Black Lives Matter to my mind is a wicked, harmful organization. The concept that Black Lives Matter is itself, of course, true. And this is part of the problem is we're all holding up signs and screaming,

and we've got to try to understand this. I don't want to cut you off. I want to talk about something, but go ahead. Yeah, a couple things. One thing, though, is I had thought about that phrase, and I thought, if there's an Occam's razor to all of this, to Black Lives Matter, you know, they say like, no, no, all lives don't matter. And I thought, well, all lives is too general. And then I thought, well, maybe, you know, maybe it's individual lives matter. And that's what Charlie Kirk talks about. And by the way, if you have not seen the last five minutes of that interview you did with Charlie Kirk, after it was over, you remember this? I told you and Charlie, that was the best five minutes you've ever done on this show. So go to YouTube channel and look up the Charlie Kirk interview from like last week, okay? You know, we can make a note album to take, I called you album. We should take a, my wife calls me all kinds of me.

Pull out that five minutes and I already, believe it or not, as the producer, I already asked them that. Oh, we're going to have to pick this. Seconds go. Okay, real quick, but I said the definitive thing, I said to my wife after I saw this protest in the car, I said, you know, the front of a T-shirt should say your life matters. And the back of the t-shirt says, take a knee with me in prayer. All right. So to be clear, Albin, we believe every single life matters.

So yes, Black Lives Matter. Of course, my goodness. But we don't believe in the movement Black Lives Matter. Man, we got a lot to talk about. We'll be back with John Smirak and an hour two, crazy stuff. Hey, folks, welcome to the Eric Metaxus show. I'm Eric Metaxus. This is the show.

I talk to people, one of the people that I've talked to in the past is Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA, Fall Kirk Center, Liberty University, and I get to talk to him right now. Charlie, welcome the program. Honor to be here, Eric, you're an American hero, and you're involved with us at Falkirk, and it's one of the great honors of my life to be working with you. I am a senior fellow at the Falkirk Center, very, very proud to be included in what you and the others there are doing, which I can say. or heroic. Let's talk about what? College campuses in America, because Turning Point USA, you do a lot of speaking at college campuses because they are the places really that they're the incubators of the woke. Yeah. Madness and cultural Marxism. So I want everyone to watch the news very carefully the next six months. And I try to tell people on my podcast and through my speaking how to interpret what's happening because then you could predict what.

what happens next. And then you're less likely to dive into hysteria or panic. Hysteria and panic usually is a byproduct of surprise. And so if you know where the left is going, you could almost be more prepared even ahead of their next move. And so I want everyone to watch very carefully the next six months. When you see outward radicalism, hatred of our country, statements by Joe Biden or by leading Democrats that make your skin crawl, I want everyone listen to this to take a step back and ask, where did this come from? and it came from the universities. These ideas were given merit and basis through higher education and college campuses,

through an intelligency of left-wing Marxist radicals that have been given undeserved credibility for absolute garbage, foolish ideas. Postmodernism is dominating the social scientists. Jonathan Haidt says one out of five of social scientists in America are self-described and self-avowed Marxists. I mean, that's just the ones that we know that call themselves Marxists. And so for everyone listening to this, if you are worried about the continual decline of America into chaos or into our anarchy or as America's continued to trend, I want you to ask yourself

the question, am I actually supporting it without even realizing it? Because I know a lot of your listeners, Eric, they say, oh, no, no, no, I don't support the downfall of America. I'm very careful where I shop and what I do and where I go to church. maybe if you send your kid to a college i'm not saying it's the right thing or the wrong thing but you very well might be financially assisting the greatest threat to the future of america and if you're voluntarily donating money as an alumni you're absolutely doing that unless you went to a school like liberty now liberty is the exception to the rule where socratic method is encouraged

where professors don't have 10 year where all ideas are presented and christians are actually allowed to profess their viewpoint i can tell you by someone who's visited hundreds of campuses and represents over 2,000 of them at Turning Point USA. That is the exception to the rule, not the rule. Oh, that's, wait, wait, wait, you're, you're understating it very dramatically. There are, there are a tiny handful of colleges in America, maybe 10 or something like that, that are the exception to the rule. We have to, we have to understand how bad it is. In other words, many so-called Christian colleges are filled with kind of woke madness. It's heartbreaking. It wasn't true 30 years ago, but it is true. Liberty is one of the few, obviously, Hillsdale.

They're just a handful of places that are somehow exempt, but we have to be clear how bad it is. I think parents are usually way too busy to know what is going on and how bad it is. My parents had no idea when they sent me to Yale that I would be learning with the money that they worked hard, you know, to send me there, that that money would be used to turn me against everything my parents had taught me. And it's gotten much worse. I just want to hear how bad it is. Well, and this should resonate with some people. The best way I can describe it is it creates ungrateful people. It creates ungrateful, unhappy people that are told to seek revenge for injustices that they had not. nothing to do with. So instead of talking about the very important balance between meaning and responsibility about how you as an individual actually have a moral prerogative to build a good life and to act ethically and morally. Instead, it's about telling everyone else why they have been the worst people in the world. They're trying to disassemble a power structure around you,

which this is such a radical fringe ideology that has become so mainstream that anyone who lives in a decent society should find this to be completely repulsive. And so we have to identify the root causes of this. And the root causes are the university system. And we as conservatives, a lot of times are kind of in this catch-22 because we say we hate the universities. And I'm talking generally. But then we're trying to hire the best mentors

and the best people to get our kids to go to Stanford. And then you're the first ones to tell your kids that are like, if you don't go to college, I'm going to be really disappointed. And I get that to an extent. But then as a bifurcation of that, I say, you're part of the problem then in some sense. I'm not saying every single one of you are. But the institutions are rotten to the core. Is it about credentialing, about getting a credential?

Or is it about actually being enlightened and becoming a better person? Well, and you have to say that even if you go to one of these top schools and you already know what you believe and you want. to get a good education, it is very difficult even to find courses that are worth taking. I mean, I'm not talking about physics and math, and, you know, there are certain things that are hard to screw up. But if you want to take a course in English literature or in history or whatever it is, you are really dealing with people who are themselves activists. In other words, most of them have already taken a stand against Western civilization

and biblical values, and that's how they got their job. And that's what they're doing to keep their job. So, yeah, we need to say that. So what do you do when you go to campuses? Do you, like, just give a speech? How does that work? I mean, yeah, we have groups across the country at Turning Point USA, over 2,000 campuses represented.

When I go to a campus and I'm going to go again this fall, and it's going to be awfully, it's going to be a whole new level of radicalism and outrage, given all, you know, recent developments in the, country. It's going to be a culture where the likes of which this country has never seen. And I bring facts, reasons, statistics, history, logic. But you'll amaze you. I spoke at Brown University and I asked the audience, how many of you have read the Gulag Archipelago are familiar with it by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. And like two hands went up. And I said, none of you are able to tell me what works and what doesn't work in civil society or in history until you've read the Gulag Archipelago.

I got to tell you, that is why I included Alexander Solzhenitsyn in my new book, Seven More Men, because it dawned on me that the young people don't even know who Solzhenitsyn is and have never heard of the Gulaig Archipelago. So thank you for saying that at Brown University. Yeah. And they were like, oh, they said it's some sort of right-wing literature is what one of the people said. I don't really think that's right. But for those listeners, I don't know, I encourage you to check it out. I mean, it's a hard read. And I don't just mean it is hard linguistically or semantically.

I mean, there's obviously there's some challenging parts to it. But when you read the brutal inhumanity, a civilization can quickly go through about how the Soviet Union was created and the concentration camps and the death and the starvation. I think it is it's an instruction manual. I mean, if we're honest about ourselves, the 20th century was a bloodbath. And it was a bloodbath mostly by the radical left. It was a bloodbath. Also, it was, it was aggressively atheistic.

In other words, let's be very That has to be said, yeah. And so you have the hitchins of the world, and you have the Dawkins of the world that say, well, no, those leaders were not atheists. I mean, that's a, I mean, Stalin was the ultimate atheist. I mean, he started as a seminary student,

not just a seminary student, but a lead seminary student while he was 19 years old and left a seminary student. while he was 19 years old and left the seminary became an atheist and found it was obviously hypnotized by the teachings of Rousseau, Marx and Hegel, and applied the Hagellian dialectic to the most sinister murderous regime in the history of the planet. But I think that if we're honest about creating a just and three 21st century, why don't we read more about the 20th century to our children? And so what caused the 20th century? And so we misapply the teachings of the 20th century to our kids. They think that the 20th century was authoritarian strongmen using fascist tactics. Some of that is true.

But the gateway to all of that was identity politics and was judging people solely on race and class and destroying others if they don't look the way you want them to look. And so do you see any similarities to today? Yeah, you absolutely can see them. I mean, Mao and Stalin in particular are playing off a lot of the playbook that the university right now is teaching. our kids. Well, there's no question about that. And, you know, I hate to know that these things are true. I would love to think that I'm overthinking it. I'm exaggerating it. Unfortunately, Charlie, you and I know things are true. We have to, we have to speak this truth, trusting God, to open people's hearts and minds to hear it because we're not hearing much of this in the

activist media. I'm sorry we're at a time, but it's fun to have you on. We'll have you on any week. you're free. My friend, thank you. Congrats on all you're doing. And God bless you. Thanks, man. See you soon. Hey, folks. President Trump's birthday is coming up June 14th. It comes up every year on June 14th Flag Day. And there's no better way to express your gratitude for him and the work he's done for our country than by taking a moment to wish him a happy birthday. All you have to do is text the word cupcakes to 88022 to wish the president a happy birthday. Again, that's cupcakes to 88022 to wish President Trump a happy birthday to join him in the fight to keep America great for four more years. Hi folks, trying times. Just know they won't last.

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John, where in the world do we begin? Oh, my gosh. Well, okay. Let's talk about peaceful protesters and rioters, okay? Imagine if the March for Life, which has been going to, going on and being very peaceful and law-abiding, prayerful, since 1974, I think. Imagine if that peaceful protest led to riots. If after the peaceful protest, looters attacked not just abortion clinics, but just tore up strip malls,

stole everything in sight. Would we, would the media describe it as a mostly peaceful pro-life demonstration? Would it be okay to keep having the March for Life if every time you had it, there was a wave of looting and rioting and police being injured and attack? Would that be okay? Or would at some point we say, sorry, March for Life, you seem not to be able to police your own organization. You seem to be providing cover. It seems like your peaceful demonstrators are just serving as the frontmen for these violent mods. would they be considering dissolving the police force in order to let pro-lifers run the city?

I mean, I want to hold everyone to the same objective standards. Well, we have to mention two things here. And by the way, I forgot to mention in the first segment that a lot of people heard that Tim Keller has pancreatic cancer. I just want to tell people we need to be praying for Tim Keller, please. I meant to mention that earlier. It's been a crazy day. And John, we also need to mention since we last spoke, and this is just lunacy. I mean, I don't know how you, I can't say this.

People are calling for the defunding of the police. It's like when people talk about, hey, you know what? We can save a lot of money. Let's get rid of the military. what world do people live in that they think it will be better not to have police? I mean, these people are just hurting and they, you know, they've experienced police brutality or whatever. It is like, that's real. But for actual counsel people in cities to call for the defunding of the police, can we even imagine what this will lead to?

Oh, I know exactly what it will lead to, Eric. Black Lives Matter told these councilmen to do this. These councilmen are following orders. If they dissolve the police, it's not going to be anarchy in the streets. It's not going to be citizens, militants of people exercising the Second Amendment rights. Black Lives Matter will de facto become the police. They will step up and say, we will enforce justice in our communities. And you will essentially have turned the city over to a new revolutionary government.

This is what happened in Paris in 1789. This is what happened in St. Petersburg in 1917. The forces of public order caved in and handed over the power, the monopoly of violence, to revolutionaries with a violent political agenda. Well, that's just the point. In other words, this is not... They're not dissolving the police. They're making Black Lives Matter, the police, political police. We have to say it again and again.

Albin and I already said it. we all believe black lives matter okay and and but the cynicism of the organization called lives matter is that they uh they're you know look it's or it's always Orwellian right it's a brilliant name it's like the million man march didn't have a million men but you had to call it a million man mark i think we should have the billion man march and have like seven pro-lifers show up in front of the supreme car all the billion men march arrived all seven of them well that's look with with Black Lives Matter, that's what you have effectively. In other words, people are, they're playing on people's white guilt and saying,

don't you believe Black Lives Matter? So the answer is, of course, if, look, I as a Christian know that God is no respecter of persons. He looks at each person equally and he died for every person. And so there is no question whether Black Lives Matter. The only question is, has this organization and this movement called Black Lives Matter? Matter, done anything that any of us would say, oh, that's a good thing. In short, no. It's a Marxist organization that explicitly says it wants to abolish the nuclear family and have children raised in common. It wants to abolish private property. It is a Marxist

front that is using the suffering of black people in inner cities, many of whom have broken families, that's the sexual revolution, which white people cooked up, lots of dead children, thanks to Planned Parenthood, which white people cooked up as a racist organization. I mean, Black Lives Matter did not speak out when it came out under oath that Planned Parenthood was cutting up black babies into parts, selling their parts to labs that would use it to do organ transplants for rich white people. They didn't talk about that. They didn't talk about that. They don't talk about the persecution of African Christians by Muslims. Those black lives matter. They don't talk about the deaths of belief. Well, okay. So this is.

This is, if I can do anything today, it's to clarify to people that we all agree that Black Lives Matter, but the organization Black Lives Matter, the movement Black Lives Matter, is a cynical organization, most of whose goals are things that most Americans and most Christians would not agree with. And I want to say there's a guy named Ryan Bomberger who wrote an article. I put it on Twitter and on Facebook. And he details what you just said, John, and a number of other things. We're going to try to get him on this program this week because when you read what Black Lives Matter, the movement, the organization wants, you realize this is, this is lunacy. We might as well, you know, give the, give the U.S. military over, you know, to Lenin or Stalin. That's the end of America. I want to start a group

called Joe Biden, stop beating your wife. And anyone who opposes me, why do you think Joe Biden should beat his wife? Why do you support domestic violence? We at Joe Bees a Biden, Stop Beating Your Wife.com, would like to stop domestic violence in Biden home. And we'll be right back with John Zmirak. Folks, welcome back talking to John Zmirak. John, what else is new? I have a piece at Stream.org that I hope everybody reads and thank you for sharing. It's called I'll never bend the knee, but I will reach out of hand.

This bending the knee business, when you see policemen and national guardsmen doing obeisance to a radical Marxist organization that's trying to take over our cities by four, course, it's absolutely chilling. I just want people to consider this. What if anti-racism as a movement is in fact a false religion? What if it's a perversion of Christianity that takes, cherry picks this and that, but not that and this, and makes them into a moralistic crusading political movement to grab political power by undemocratic needs, to terrorize people to force them into acts of ritual worship like bending the knee. What if this, in fact, is the new face of the Antichrist?

And I don't mean a person. I mean a movement that replaces the church that steals the moral authority of the gospel, that presents a false, a truncated gospel. It says abortion is okay, pornography is okay, transgenderism is okay. but we're going to enforce equal racial outcomes using violent moms. And let's be honest, John, let's be very clear. They will harm blacks. If you care about blacks, this is the trick.

This is the key. If you actually care about blacks, if you actually care about the poor in America, you must stand against these movements. If you actually care. Now, if you just want to be, you want to get the, checkmark from your woke friends that you're good and you do what you're supposed to do, whatever that. If that's what you're about, you know, you're really not helping blacks.

Now, if you actually care about people struggling in America, you must understand the difference between people who are working to really help like Bob Woodson and like Shelby Steel. And Donald Trump, frankly, Donald Trump helped create millions of jobs to help the least advantage in America, and many of them black and rural white, get off unemployment. What is the left doing? Smashing up their stores, beating up cops,

setting fires, and calling for the police to be replaced by a political militia that they pick themselves. It's extremely dangerous and totally responsible, but you know what? Cynical people are using the suffering of these people. I'll give you the most cynical. Wilton Gregory,

the Catholic Archbishop of Washington, D.C., kind of the de facto leader of the church in America. He condemned Donald Trump for setting foot on church property to honor John Paul II because of the fact that when there were protesters outside in Lafayette Park and the park police cleared them away, 75 officers were injured dealing with these peaceful demonstrators. Wilton Gregory is feeding into the media lie that Trump used riot police against peaceful protesters so he could do a photo op in front of St. John's Church. William Gregory today, over the weekend,

ordered all the priests of his diocese to take part in a political protest. He invited them, but he controls their salaries and where they live, and they have vows of obedience to him. So he ordered them to march in a Black Lives Matter-Lake demonstration. This is the Archbishop of Washington, D.C. who has made himself famous because he was friends with Cardinal McCarrick, child molesting cardinal, and he and McCarrick exempted bishops like McCarrick from any penalties for raping children and any penalties for hiding pedophiles and assigning them to scout troops and swapping

them around the country and not reporting them to police. Milton Gregory collaborated with Theodore McCarrick in a scheme to cover up and enable child rape. And now he is hiding behind the poor battered body of George Floyd to try to gain some moral credibility. these kinds of clerical hacks, they make the Sadducees look like the apostles. You know, it's interesting you say that because that's about right. The Pharisees and the Sadducees as off and dark as they were, what we're hearing now, when you talk about McCarrick, for example,

I mean, actual child molesters who enabled other child molesters, wearing clerical garb, performing mass. Hearing confessions. Giving people moral advice. Diabolical. That's Wilton Gregory. That's the guy who's rebuking Donald Trump, who's wading a moralistic finger.

Wilton Gregory, pedophile enabler. It is so dark. And, you know, as you said, I mean, I keep saying, if we really care about those who are suffering in America, and there's just no doubt that there's disproportionate suffering in black communities. But the question is why? It is because of democratic policies. In other words, it's not like we're saying we don't care.

We care. The question is, how can we fix it? And by agreeing with the Democratic Party and with the people who are demanding that we kneel, we're actually harming blacks. If you care about blacks, ladies and gentlemen, you're obliged to understand what is happening and to choose. You cannot say, I don't want anything to do with it, or I just want to take the easy way out. I'll kneel and I'll move on with my life. The fact of the matter is we have to confront the lie that for over 50 years, Democrats have had control of all of these large urban centers,

and they have destroyed black families. they've destroyed black lives. And now, to quote, you know, Bob Woodson and Shelby Steele, they are suddenly saying, well, don't look at what we have done for 50 years. It's systemic racism. That's what it is. Let's talk about that. Al Sharpton is back.

I'm thinking that maybe Tijuana Browley will be the next vice presidential pick that Biden is considering. I mean, why not? What Al Sharpton said at the memorial for George Floyd was genuinely despicable. I couldn't believe what. came out of his mouth. I thought to myself, this is so ugly and so cynical. I just have no words. And I really believe that the Democratic Party is afraid that they are, this is the eight-minute segment, right? Yeah, that they are afraid that they are going to lose votes. And that is why it's kind of scorched earth policy, because I think there are many, many blacks in America.

They see what's going on. They may not be on the news talking about it. But they, understand what is happening. Yeah, they're seeing their businesses and their livelihoods destroyed, their jobs taken away. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that the Democrats were campaigning using the strategy that the hijack, the kidnappers of Patty Hurst. They want to lock America up, starve it, and beat it up until we switch sides and just blindly identify with our captors. We've got a final five-minute segment with John Zmirak, do not go away.

Folks, I'm talking to John Zmirak. John, again, we're seeing such racial division in this country, but I believe that it's being stoked by people who in the end don't really care about blacks. Because if they did, they would denounce the policies of the Democrats who have led us to where we are. It has been the Democrats who have led us to where we are. People would rather just blame Donald Trump. If you care about the children around a school bus, and you see the town drunk driving a school bus, you try to stop that bus, right? You're not an enemy of the schoolchildren.

You're not against public education. You're not against all transportation if you try to stop a drunk from driving a school bus full of kids. Al Sharpton, Joe Biden, all these corrupt, cynical, lying sacks of garbage are trying to drive the black community like kids in a school bus off a cliff. They are cynically. The profound cynicism of this, it just staggered me. First of all, what are these protests about exactly? Do they demand that Derek Chauvin' accomplices be arrested and charged? Done, done, done.

So what do they want? Can we meet these demands? They won't say what the demands are, because the demands are secret and they're limitless. And we're not going to find out what they are until the police have been disbanded and replaced by Marx's thugs, who will police exactly what we're. we say, we'll take away our Second Amendment rights, our First Amendment rights, keep our churches

close. This is standard totalitarian tactics. Read Hannah Arendt's origins of totalitarianism. She said the essence of Nazi and communists and other totalitarianism is, you don't have a set agenda. You just, you have a movement and you want to keep moving in this direction and keep moving and constant dynamism. You never give set specific policy things that would satisfy you because you can't be satisfied. You want to create utopia, heaven on earth, which of course we know in practice ends up in killing fields and gulogs and concentration camps. That is hell on earth because God won't let us build the tower of Babel. He's going to knock it down. Well, yeah, you know, you wonder what do people want and what they want is complete submission because the fact of the matter is Murder is legal in America.

Police brutality and murder, third degree, second degree. These are, we have laws against this. So what are people looking for exactly, you know, somehow the idea that no one will ever commit a crime again, that you can't have that. You have to do what you can. But the fact of the matter is there will always be evil people. There will always be people who make mistakes.

There will always be people who do cruel things. So the question is, do we already have the laws? I don't know what they don't want they don't want there to be abstract laws which you can defend yourself and have a defense attorney they want a policy that is not bound by laws where an administrator with power some stacey abrams can just give decrees and give commands and you will obey them because there is no law that's how totalitarianism works and they're making it clear that that's what they want they will not be bound by our laws pretty wait 10 minutes they're going to say Anglo-American common law is inherently racist. We can't have an election until we've gotten rid of this racist system. I think the Democrats are afraid of losing the election and they're willing to do anything, anything to stop Donald Trump from being re-elected, just as they were willing to do anything, anything at all to get him removed from office, create a dry-the-style lie about him being a Russian spy,

destroy the lives of dozens of innocent people, corrupt the FBI, corrupt the FBI, CIA, corruptifies the courts, these people's power, appetite for power is limitless. This is some dark stuff, but I believe God has a plan. Folks, don't give up, be encouraged, pray, act, vote. John Smirik, thank you. Thank you, Eric. That breath.

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