The Eric Metaxas Show - John Zmirak and Kevin McCullough

Episode Date: April 1, 2023

John Zmirak discusses his Stream.org article about demonic possession; then, Kevin McCullough of That Kevin Show weighs in on yesterday's indictment of President Trump and what all may be involved in the case.

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And I want people to go to Google it. My pronoun is Legion and share it everywhere. It's one of the finest things John has ever written, which is saying a heck of a lot. Continue. Thank you. Okay. So what I'm saying is transgenderism is the ultimate culmination

of the philosophy of the Marquis de Saat. it's not coherent, it's not really very intelligent. It is the fruit of demonic possession. The Marquis de Sade was clearly possessed. He wasn't just like writing pornography that got him excited. He was writing about priests desecrating the Eucharist while raping nuns and murdering children. That's the kind of spirit that lies at the heart of the sexual revolution. These are the arguments which were taking.

directly from Desaude. Simone de Beauvoir wrote an entire book phrasing the Marquis de Saad before she wrote the second sex, before she campaigned to legalize abortion in France. So it is a direct genealogical connection. What I'm saying is Satan as pure spirit and as God's enemy hates us. He wants to torture and destroy us as proxies for God, because he can't harm God except to his creatures. One thing he really hates is our physical nature, our bodily nature, embodied nature, as men and as women.

God created man, male and female, he created them. There's no mention of 47 genders. There are two. There are two genders, two sexes, and then there is a mental illness. We are being ordered by every institution in society to disrespect. and disregard God's creation to actually condemn his creation and say he botched it, that there are, in fact, all these sexes in the human species. Not in any other, by the way.

You don't see scientists finding 47 genders of chimpanzees. These scientists who think we're no different from the animals because of Darwin, suddenly when it comes to a sexual perversion, in order to defend sexual perversions, then all of a sudden human beings are unique. We are unique and special, precious snowflakes as long as is to justify grooming kids so you can castrate them and mutilate them. So pharmaceutical companies can make billions of dollars giving artificial hormones to people

like that psychopath in Nashville who shot up a school. Now, one thing I've read that I don't think a lot of people have heard of. the pastor of that church in Nashville was counseling the woman who did the shooting she went to him for counseling about her transgender struggles she decided she didn't like what he was saying because he was telling her I think

stop taking male hormones stop identifying as male God made you a woman and so she came to the church to shoot him but when she couldn't find him she killed his child now wait a minute John, you realize how insane it is that one of the most important stories that you can imagine in the news, you have just given us on this program a piece of information, which is as vital to the story as anything I've heard about the story. And I have not heard this anywhere else.

I mean, where in the world did you discover that piece of information? In the Western Journal, which is a conservative media site. Well, what about her manifest? When right-wing nut cases in Europe shot at Muslims or in New Zealand shot at Muslims and socialists, their manifesto was everywhere. And anybody who had said anything remotely similar to anything in that manifesto was suddenly tarred as a terrorist. Well, this woman has a manifesto, a transgender manifesto. For the shooting, she did a couple days before the official transgender Day of Vengeance, which official transgroups have backed the transgender. gender day of vengeance.

And, oh no, they're hiding. They're hiding her manifesto because it's politically inconvenient. And what are they saying? It's about the guns. So we kill Christians. We blame the victims. We say that the shooter was tormented by not being accepted because of churches. So we blame the victims for getting shot.

And now we want to disarm the victims. We want to take away their guns so that the next time, someone comes for them, they won't have any chance to defend themselves. This is a lot like when the Nazis would beat up Jews and then if the Jews defend themselves, send the Jews to prison. It's like when the Nazis seized all the guns of the Jews and Socialists in Germany before doing crystal-knock. They couldn't have done Crystal-Knox if they hadn't first taken the guns away from the Jews. But the Weimar Republic had set up all these nice gun control laws, which only good law-abiding people complied with. So they had the names of all the Jews who had guns and they went and collected them.

This is all in my friend, the book Nazi gun gun control by my friend. Oh my gosh, I'm trying to remember his name. But the title is Nazi gun control. Nazi gun control. And it again, as I. I had to tell people the other day. 170 million civilians were murdered by their governments between 1914 and 1990 all around the world.

170 million. It doesn't include casualties of war. These are all intentional murders of civilians by the government. And they only had one thing in common, from Spain to Cambodia, one quality in common. They had all been disarmed by the government first. So anyone who tells you, we need common sense gun control, what they're saying is,

we must be veal calves waiting in the pen for when the government comes to slaughter us. Because that's the only thing in the end that keeps you safe from the monstrous, dangerous, ravening beast that is the modern secular state. The modern secular state has a lot of skeletons, a lot of cells on its conscience. Let's be clear, circling back to your thesis, what we're talking about is literally demonic. What happened with this young woman who was so deeply disturbed, much of this is demonic. And if you don't believe in a spiritual reality that contains the angelic and the demonic, that's going to be bad for you. That's like saying, I don't believe in math, but I'd like to build buildings and bridges.

good luck, good luck. The reality in which we all live, whether we like it or don't, some of it is invisible. I can't see atoms, but the periodic table is a handy guide to help me understand there's this reality of atoms and atomic structure that I can't see with my eyes. The reality of the satanic, it's becoming more real every day. And John, what you have just said, we need to understand the spirit of murder, the idea that this young woman didn't like what she was hearing. It tells you everything you need to know. The news media would not report on it tells you everything we need to know. You know who agrees with me, Joe Biden.

Joe Biden just gave a proclamation that transgender people help shape America's soul. And that's precisely the point. We are- We can shape our souls for hell. Folks, go to my pronoun is Legion, Google it, share it. We'll be right back. Legacy precious metals has a revolutionary new online platform that allows you to invest in real gold and silver online. In a few easy steps, you can open an account online, select your medals of choice, and choose to have them stored in a vault or ship to your door. You have access to a dashboard where you can track your portfolio growth in real time anytime.

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Find out more at The Journey.movey. That's The Journey. Dot movie. Folks, welcome back. A few minutes left with John Zmirak. When we come back for the final part of the program today, we have our friend Kevin McCullough to talk about the Trump indictment. John, the article you wrote, it's called My Pronown is Legion. It is so important. I shared it as widely as I could.

I want everyone to Google my prongue. pronoun is legion and share it because it is vitally important. Talk us through this article so that people can begin to understand what you're getting at. It is so important, folks. Listen up. Okay. Transgenderism is on one level of mental illness. You don't think your body matches your soul.

That's really messed up. That's terrible if that's really true. people who feel that way need help. They don't need help carving up their bodies to match what's going on and their heads. I thought of this metaphor yesterday. If you had a Macintosh computer, but your software was all for a PC, would you take a screwdriver and a soldering gun and try to change your Mac into a PC so that it matched the software? or might you decide that it was the software that needed some work?

Well, that's the perfect metaphor for transgenderism. The software, what's going on in your head, doesn't match the hardware, what's going on in your pants. Which is easier to change, which is less expensive, less damaging, less destructive? Well, it would be to change your thoughts. But in fact, it's illegal to do that. In California, you can lose your medical license for California. counseling someone who's transgender that they shouldn't have the operation. You have to tell them to get the surgery. You have to tell them to take the hormones. If you don't, you'll lose your license.

It's a lot like COVID when they wouldn't let you give out hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin. You had to do the dead baby shot. The dead baby vacs was the only choice because what was really important was forcing everyone to have blood on their hands from abortion. And what's really important here is forcing everyone to rebel against God's creation, to rebel against our nature as men and women. With never the twains are meat and there's nothing in between. There are two sexes in all mammals, in virtually all vertebrates. In fact, most phylum of animals, apart from microorganisms have two sexes, not three, not 14, not 47, two. There is no scientific basis for affirming transgenderism. It is demonic. Literally, I believe that the people promoting transgenderism

are possessed and that they are echoing the hatred that Satan as a fallen angel has for us as embodied creatures incarnate in human flesh that reproduce sexually. There's a demonic hatred for creation, and they want to mar it. They want to scar little girls. They want to castrate little boys. They want to groom small children. I used to go to a bar in Dallas, a restaurant called Buzz Brews in Lakewood. It was a late-night place.

It had fun things that had opened my classical night. It had good food, friendly service. Then they started doing drag queen brunch. And I saw all ages drag queen brush. So all you unfit parents out there who want your kids to be groomed by men dressed as prostitutes and strippers, bring your kids. It's fun for the whole family. So I realized I had to stop going to Buzz Brews in Lakewood.

Really was driven home to me when some Christians announced. they were going to sing and pray outside to protest this grooming event. Lake Buzzbrews invited Antifa, who showed up in body armor and face masks with AR-15s to terrorize Christians who were singing and praying outside. Needless to say, I don't go to the restaurant anymore. In fact, I don't even like to drive by it because I have violent incendiary thoughts when I pass the place. This place believes that Christians who pray should be taken.

terrorized by masked Marxist terrorists carrying rifles. This is increasingly happening. Look how many people in the media blamed the victims for the Nashville massacre. And as we said in the last segment, we now know, apparently this woman, who I will not name, let her memory be accursed, she was troubled by transgender thoughts. she went to the pastor of that church in Nashville for counseling. He told her apparently the biblical thing that you should not mutilate your body to match your mental delusions. She got mad.

She came back to target him. She couldn't find him so she shot his little daughter. That is transgenderism in a nutshell, punishing and destroying children in order to feed the delusions of adults. And it is demonic. It is from the pit of hell. And any of your pastors or your bishop, people like James Martin, as the Jesuit, if they're enabling this, if they're supporting this, they are devil worshippers. And you should flee the occasion, flee their wicked and toxic company. I have to say, John, part of what is happening, I see this spiritually and historically, a kind of reformation is happening.

We're being forced to choose reality. There is the reality of God and the reality of God's order. And that involves the spiritual order, the demonic order, the angelic order. Either we side with God or we're going along with this perverse fictional idea. You know if you read the end of the book, the devil doesn't win. But the point is that for many years, many people could driveting. along without facing the stark choice that we make. Either we go with what God says or we go with what the devil says. A lot of people think, well, I don't want to be a fanatic. I'm just going to

kind of float here in the middle. When things like this are happening, when this young woman believes she's a man, tries to get counseling from a pastor who lovingly tells her the truth, she then decides, I will murder him. And when she can't murder him, murders his young child and five other people, ladies and gentlemen, if you cannot face that this is not just somebody's meds, there's something deeply evil and dark. And the only solution, this is the point, the only answer is God. The only answer is the God of the Bible. The only answer is Jesus. That's the only answer. Anything else, more drugs, counseling, whatever the, These things are like trying to cover over a volcano with a band-aid.

We need God to redeem the deep, deep, deep brokenness that's at the heart of darkness. That's what we're talking about right now. And John, you lay it out in this article. Again, I want to say to people, the article is my pronoun is legion. Find it. Just Google. My pronoun is legion. Zmirak, you need to share this article.

We need to understand what we're dealing with. otherwise we will not wake up, we will not face it. That's right. And these people want to groom children. They want drag queen's story hours. They want to spread their disease to children. You know, early on in the COVID panic, I made a joke. And I wonder if that joke had a very ugly result.

I was trying to explain why drag queen's story hour was insane. It's trying to spread gender dysphoria to young and vulnerable children. I said, that's as crazy as sending COVID patients to nursing homes. and three weeks later that's exactly what Cuomo and Whitmer and Newsom did and I wonder if they read my satirical article and took a policy idea from it John listen again we're dealing with spiritual reality these things are in the ether these things are in the air that you know even you're cracking that joke or that mentioning the hyperbolic idea you know that could be the holy spirit whispering to you because these things are happening.

And we have a choice. We can either keep our mouth shut and look away and allow them to happen, or we can get involved and do something. In the next segment, we're going to bring on Kevin McCullough to talk about the Trump indictment. But every day something crazy happens to try to wake up. It's God's way of trying to wake up more people. You have a choice.

Either you can wake up and do something. thing or you can be part of the problem just as so many Germans were part of the problem in the 30s they said not yet not yet i'm just going to see which way it goes uh john just 30 seconds left final thoughts we need to pray and fast and keep in mind that the battle for our souls and our children's souls is being waged before our very eyes and the stakes are getting stuck the sides are getting starker, the stakes are getting higher, and soon there'll be nothing to lose by doing the right thing because they are intent on taking our children and sacrificing them to Monk. It's pretty simple. Folks, if you want to find more about me, go to ericmetaxis.com. Please sign up

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last night, the indictment of President Donald Trump. What is your reaction to this? What do you have to tell us? Well, I think as a new story, this has been discussed ad nauseum to the degree that it be for the last three to four weeks without any knowledge of what was going to be in the indictment. And sadly, until the indictment is unsealed by a judge, we still won't know what is in the indictment. So we don't know what the charges are. We don't know what Alvin Bragg is claiming. We don't know what the grand jury is claiming.

We did learn one piece of new news from some source, and it appears that the case doesn't involve only Stormy Daniels, but also the other woman that was involved McDougal in those payments. And at the end of the day, Trump's position hasn't moved. He said all along, he didn't make the payments, doesn't know anything about him, didn't know anything about him. They were put in his ledger as legal expenses, which is what I would put if I had payments that I made to lawyers. So we're kind of still at square one, where we were when they leaked the word that they

were going to arrest him and there was going to be an indictment. but then nothing happened for weeks. We're really no further along. It's a sealed indictment, and it won't be unsealed until the judge unseals it. But the indictment didn't come until yesterday. Right. And that was after everyone had speculated that it was going to come like two weeks previous. So whatever they've done, they had to go back to the drawing board on some level because what that told me was that the grand jury was far from convinced that they needed to indict the president.

And an indictment is not a hard thing to get. There's an expression you can indict a ham sandwich. A grand jury indictment is far from a determination of guilt. And if it's on the substance of what we think that it is, this is one of the slimyest, dumbest things that's ever been done in the legal profession and so patently, nakedly political against the president's opponents. And I would argue an interference with the 2024 election since President Trump is a declared candidate. So isn't that the point? In other words, getting in the weeds about what's the indictment or whatever. This is all like the nonsense they want us to be talking about. They will be they will be feasting off of this on CNN and MSNBC.

They're thrilled to have something to talk about that makes it sound like, you know, Donald Trump is an evil dictator and now we've got him. We all know that this is just silly, that we could go. I mean, if people are serious about law enforcement, a Hunter Biden should be in jail by now. And maybe Joe Biden should be in jail by now. I mean, there are very, very serious, huge charges of corruption and malfeasance. Charges that are, they're as big as it gets. No one seems to be pursuing that.

They're instead focused on getting. Donald Trump out of the running. He scares them to death and they will find any legality, whatever they can to get him. We know it's nakedly political. So by definition, the folks doing this, are guilty. We know that. They don't care about the truth or the law. They're simply doing something because it's conceivable they could.

They're going to try, try, try, try, try. So I guess my question is, what do Republicans do about this? Are there any heroic figures in the Senate willing to stand against this? Well, Senate House, wherever last night, so the indictment gets handed down at what, about five to six, Eastern Time, something like that. And I start getting news alerts immediately from all sources across the board, left, right, middle, indifferent, et cetera. One of the things that I was impressed by was that the immediate leadership of the Republican Party, particularly those in the House, immediately made public statements, immediately went on the record, immediately opposed this, and started saying that there would be investigations from the House. Today, I have in front of me Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office's response in which he is trying to tell people in the House of Representatives that they can't have the documents related. to this indictment because it would present unlawful political interference in an ongoing criminal case. Talk about the irony of just that statement alone.

I mean, this is ongoing political interference in or this is ongoing supposed criminal interference in a political race for the president. And we've never subjected a president. And there have been those that have done bad things. There have been those that likely have broken the law. to a much worse degree than a campaign finance reform statute being violated. But we've never, we've never seen this happen. We've never seen an indictment brought against a former president.

And to do so on the, on the most specious grounds possible, it would be one thing, Eric, if Alvin Bragg came out last night very somberly and said, well, you know, we have eyewitness evidence that former President Trump committed murder in the first degree. And he planned it and plotted. it and we have his fingerprints and here's the DNA and like just the most heinous thing that you can possibly think of. It would be one thing if they said we have evidence and this is going to, that would be a different situation. That would be somewhere where the country would say, okay, well, if a former president's done

something like that, he probably should face criminal justice and we need to do it. We're not talking about anything remotely close to that. We're talking about even if it's a crime, which I'm not even convinced it is, and I'm not sure that they have evidence to prove that it is, and I don't even know what statute it violates, but they're trying to extrapolate things to make it violate this criminal, this campaign reform statute. If, even if it all qualifies for that, it's, it's, you know, a bunch of nothing. It's literally not worth the paper.

Let's put it on. Put a pin in it. We'll be right back talking to Kevin McCullough. We'll go to church just signify. Trying to make a date with the neighbors while. Brother, let me days just to show as you're born, you better leave that. Welcome back, folks talking to Kevin McCullough, aka Boat stradama. about yesterday's indictment of President Trump,

it seems to me, if I had to guess, that the people on the left who hate Trump are so desperate to get him and so scared of what he represents, which most Americans are all for, that they will do anything, that they are, they don't really care. In other words, it's sort of like people that are so desperate, they will do and say anything, hoping somehow something might stick because they cannot bear the

thought of his reelection, which I will predict is going to happen. This is going to help him be reelected. And he will be as a second term president awake to the dark forces arrayed against him, against Lady Liberty and Uncle Sam and every American patriot and that Trump will not play patty cake with the devil the way he did during some of his first term. Well, he got thrown a lot of curd balls in the first term. And again, it was his first foray into politics at all. And so there were just a lot of things.

He just was not familiar with how they worked and, you know, procedures and people and processes and everything else. He is a completely different candidate, this score. around. And I would say a much more lethal one when it comes to his understanding of what needs to be done. And you are exactly right, Eric, the reason that there is this desperation, and that is a great word for it, they are willing to go to any lengths. They are willing to prostrate themselves before the devil himself to try to win this election. And the reason that they're afraid to do that is because the power that he's going to have to literally break and

bust open every single secret stronghold that the deep state and that the establishment have spent generations protecting, he's going to be a man on a mission, and he's going to have four years to get it done, and he's not going to waste a single moment from the time that he's inaugurated. I hope that you and my good friend, Governor Huckabee, and a whole bunch of other people are right, and that this really assists him in getting reelected. My real concern in 2024 is that if we do not have sharpened voter integrity processes in some key states, that there is still a great cheat afoot and that there's going to be people trying to stop that. Another sign of their desperation. But why are they so desperate?

Eric, think about this. From the time he was elected the first time, they made up the collusion hoax about Russia, when in reality it was the Hillary Clinton campaign coordinating with Russia to put that hoax. together. They tried to impeach him on a phone call. They tried to impeach him less than that on the transcript of a phone call that he made to a world leader. When there was nothing wrong with the words that he said or the tone and situation and how he said it, they tried to impeach him for it. They tried to say that he created a riot on January 6th, and they tried to impeach him for that after he was out of office. This is a man that they have not stopped from the time he came down in the Trump Tower to announce his candidacy. And it's only because they fear so greatly

his ability to see through their bogusness and get to the heart of the matter and to really hold people accountable for what they need to be held accountable for. There's a lot of work to do if he's going to be able to do that, by the way. The Senate needs to be taken by the Republicans in 24. The House needs to be held by the Republicans. And they all need to act like Republicans. We don't need Mitt Romney and Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins to suddenly grow a spine and lose a spine and say, oh, I'm going to go act like a Democrat right now. If there's no sign that our nation is in greater torment than what we are experiencing at this moment, I don't know what it is. You have literally a deep state that is trying to gaslight

most of the country and to make them believe that this is a guy that is a betrayer of his nation, as opposed to the most loyal citizen there. I hold that he's the latter, not the former. Well, that's what's so interesting to me, Kevin, is that what is happening in America is people are kind of on a rolling basis because it's not everybody at once, but waking up to the reality in which we find ourselves, I think that there are still people, tons of people who believe, for example, the J6 narrative, they basically believe that There was an insurrection, a lot of bad things happened.

But they really have no idea what happened. They bought the lie the day that it was peddled. And they have continued to think, well, Trump shouldn't have done this and people shouldn't have done that. They are still living in that reality. And you can understand if you believe that, which many people still do, because they are addicted to the useless mainstream media, which is, you know, I say useless, that's putting it very kindly.

They are working with the devil to lie. lie not to report the truth, to keep people confused, to keep people in the dark. So you have a lot of people, including in the Republican Party, who are still basically on that page. When Betsy DeVos wrote her memoir about what happened, when Mike Pence has made comments, and so these are the people that we thought were on our side, many of them have bought these lies. I don't think these are evil people.

But the point is they bought the narrative. It's the mainstream narrative. It's the moderate position. So many people that were even in his cabinet, Mitch McConnell's harpy of a wife, I cannot even imagine that we lived at a time when we kind of thought these people are working with us. They still haven't woken up to where we are. Let me just give some perspective to this because you're bringing up a good point.

But if the indictment had not come down yesterday, what would have been the front page story in every paper across America today? If Trump's indictment had not come down last night, what would have been the lead story today across the board? My guess it would be about the woman who killed children at a Christian school. Well, no, that's a couple of days in the rearview mirror. Yesterday, people don't realize this. It was just yesterday. It was announced that the Q&N shaman was going to go free.

I'm sorry. That's right. And so it's almost as though as soon as that happened, they had to come back with something to take the limelight away from the truth being revealed. And look, I'm no fan of the QAnon Shaman. You dress like that and you go wandering around through the Capitol. I'm not in favor of that kind of stuff. I am a fan of that guy. As soon as you saw the footage that Nancy Pelosi had had in her possession and refused to release to the press, but Kevin McCarthy did give it to Tucker Carlson. As soon as you saw the footage, the judge immediately had to say, this guy was not an insurrectionist.

He did not break into things. And that's that. That's why he went free. We'll be back. Final segment with Kevin McCullough. Here's our friend Kevin McCullough, aka Votesradamus. Kevin, you just said something as usual, brilliant, that if yesterday the indictment hadn't come down for Trump, this just ridiculous, ridiculous, ridiculous indictment, it's so stupid and desperate and evil.

But if that hadn't happened, we would all be talking about the vindication of Jacob Chan's the so-called QAnon shaman, who was in solitary confinement. I mean, that this happens in America. It is so wicked. Yeah, think about that. Not that it was just in prison, but that he was in solitary. And why was he in solitary for crimes that they had supposedly convicted him of? When the evidence was overwhelming to the opposite degree that he had not done anything to break any property or be any place that the police of the Capitol didn't let him.

And he even offered a prayer of Thanksgiving for the Capitol. police from the well of the Senate once he got in there. I mean, and I'm not saying that anybody that broke windows and smashed things shouldn't be held accountable for what they did. Everybody should be responsible for their actions. But the overwhelming narrative was these people were crazy. They went in there and they tortured things and they broke things and they wanted to kill lawmakers. And when you look at the 41,000 hours, it doesn't tell that story. It tells a very different story. Yeah, there was some there were some bad actors in there. And I don't know, maybe they were of the other side trying to entice. Even the idea that people broke windows, ladies and gentlemen,

we had BLM mobs, Antifa mobs, destroying American cities. Are the, are people talking about that? Nancy Pelosi didn't raise a finger to that. Is is, is cackling Kamala Harris talking about that? This is why people are angry. This is why people are waking up because we recognize that we have been lied to, that there has been selective justice. That is not the American way. Patriots have died so that we could have real justice in America. And when we see the Democratic Party and rhino Republicans going along with that narrative,

we are right to be angry. We are right to want to take our country back. Well, let me also make this point. of people are going to be watching the the current leadership of the Republican Party. And I really boil it down to just a couple of figures. I mean, nationally, President Trump is the banner carrier for the America First Movement. But, you know, in a very, very, very distant second, Ron DeSantis is in that same kind of slot. He came out last night with an immediate statement and also said today, according to reports, that there will be no cooperation from the state of Florida

on the extradition of the president based on these sham charges. And it's going to require a lot more patriots standing up and being counted, maybe doing things that are controversial. But, you know, he was asked that question a couple of weeks ago, and he really didn't answer it. He just said, Bragg's not a good guy, and he's doing things that are inappropriate. And everybody got mad at him that he didn't say he wouldn't extradite. Well, he's on the record, like so many Republican leaders in the last 24 hours,

that they're not going to cooperate with this. You can't let tyrants take your country away. And that's where we're at. This is not, I've talked with former Soviet Union residents within the last 24 hours. And they said, Kevin, this is so what it was like. It just, you jail the opponents that say the things that your leaders don't like and you don't let them speak. The current opponent to Putin right now in Russia is in a gulag. They stick them in solitary.

They don't let them do anything. This is how they react. this is not what America should do, and it takes Americans standing up and doing something about it. Well, Kevin McCullough, my friend, thank you so much for taking some of your valuable time to help us process this. Folks, I want to remind you, please go to Ericmetaxis.com, sign up for my newsletter. We want to get this information out to you. We're in a war for this nation. If you don't get it now, I don't know if you'll ever get it, but we all need to do our part.

God bless you. Hey, folks, it's that time of the month we talk about the economy. The one subject I need the most help on, which is why we go to the Charles Thorngren, CEO of Legacy Precious Metals. Welcome back. Thank you, sir. And you're not the only one. I think even our government meets up with the economy.

Well, what in the world are we to make of where we are right now? I mean, I had a friend the other day who does not know that Legacy Precious Metals is a sponsor on this show, doesn't know that I have you on the program. And he said, based on what he knows, and he's kind of into this stuff, he's like, Eric, buy silver now. He sent me, you know, specifics. He doesn't know that I already am involved in this. But he was like, it was always a good thing to do.

But like he was like urging me as a friend because he knows what's happening with our economy. But tell my audience, as you're able. where we are with things right now. I mean, this banking crisis, it's incomprehensible to me. It's just part of the entire scenario that we've been talking about. We have an economy that's not being run correctly. Through many different facets, through inflation we have being hammered, the lack of interest rate control, the risk that's out there,

a decade and a half of easy money. These are all things that lead to an instability that when it catches you, it just overwhelms you. I often like to look at it as the tidal wave. For years, we've watched the water going out, and everything's been easy. But now when that water comes back from that tidal wave, it covers everything. And that's what we're talking about. And, you know, I don't like to scare people, but I will say this. your finances are more at risk now than they've ever been in your life.

This is worse than what we saw in 2007 and 2008. This is worse than the dot com of 2000 because it's a much bigger scenario. We have a situation where the amount of easy money has been so much for so long that even banks didn't handle money correctly. And this is where you see this issue, you know, and now we're talking about the next bank, Pacific West, it's in trouble. Its share prices are down 20%. They had to go and borrow about $15 billion from the Fed, and then still needed more money.

So it's the beginning. It's not the end of this cycle with banks, and that's the unfortunate thing. And I want to apologize for everybody for being right about this, but this is the scenario that we're in. Well, look, for me, the joy is that we're talking about this on this program and that there are people who would trust you or me enough to say, I'm going to take this seriously, and it will be good for them. So obviously what you're recommending and why you're on here is that people invest in precious metals, gold and silver. So I went on the website the other day. Again, folks, this is legacy p.m. Investments.com. But I set up my own account there.

And I was thrilled to see, I guess, how easy it is to do so that people can do this themselves. But it does seem unfortunately urgent the way you put it because you're right, Charles. We've never been here before. The idea that we have been so irresponsible for so long at some point, you have to pay the Piper and here we are. And what's going to happen when the wave crashes? It's terrible. But at least some people will be protected.

And that's important. You know, we have to look at it from that aspect. As many people as get protected, the better the economy comes back, the faster it comes back. If we all suffer, we take so much longer to recover. we suffer together, which I guess is good if you want to suffer with people, but you have the option, you have the knowledge now to be someone who can stand in the gap for those people who didn't listen and you'll be able to maybe offer some help to family members because you won't have the devastation in your finances that they do.

So there's something to that. Talk for a second about how the Swiss government forced to sail between UBS and credit suites, because Credit Suisse was in trouble. I mean, this is the kind of stuff most of us don't understand. These kind of shenanigans at this high level. They had no choice. The government had to create a deal to bail out Credit Suisse before it shut down the country's finances.

Their economy would have been shuttered. And not just their economy. I mean, we are a worldwide entity now. Finance is intermingled around the world. but if UBS does not step in and buy credit suites, and by the way, talk about a sweetheart deal, $3 billion for the company, with $2 billion loans from their government to buy it,

as well as $9 billion set aside for any surprising debt that shows up. So the government gave them $11 billion. to buy the bank, but which they spent $3 billion. Amazing. I still don't understand even, you know, what just happened here with Biden bailing out this basically a woke bank, right? In other words, basically saying that taxpayers are going to cover this stuff, doesn't that fundamentally alter everything about our economy and about the free market

and about banking in America? I mean, is this socialism? What is this that we're going through where the government feels the ability that they can do this with my money, with our money, our taxpayers' money? How do they feel that they have the right to do that? Well, I think we can say that same statement

about a lot of things this administration's done. How do they feel like they're entitled to do that? But yes, this is a steps towards socialism, but that shouldn't be surprising to us. Biden got the nod because Bernie, him. Being really honest about it, a lot of this really does take into the account a socialist nation like you see European socialist nations.

So you have a scenario to where an SVB bank is unique in that aspect. It was a lot of cryptocurrencies that cause this problem and venture capital. So the weakness there is everyone removed money because they got scared. That's right. Well, we have to go. I just want to tell people, go to legacy pminvestments.com, legacy pm investments.com. You can transfer your money. You can buy gold and silver, when shipped to your house, you could do it today. Legacypminvestments.com. Thank you, Charles. My pleasure.