The Eric Metaxas Show - Katharine Gorka

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

Katharine Gorka joins to discuss her new book "NextGen Marxism: What It Is and How to Combat It" and why she chose to write it. 

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Hello, happy May 7th day. Listen, I've been traveling so much that I have to do these intros to remind myself of where I am now, where I've been, and where I'm going. It's very confusing. I was in Rochester, Michigan. I spoke at a big prayer breakfast. Then I flew to the Kentucky Derby. from we were at the Kentucky Derby for several days. From there, I flew back to Michigan, to Grand Rapids, Michigan, where yesterday, Monday, May 6th, I spoke at a prayer breakfast in Grand Rapids, Michigan. Now I'm in Connecticut. I didn't fly to Connecticut. I flew to New York. I drove to Connecticut.

And I forgot my Claritin. This is what happens when you travel too much, like you change stuff. And I'm up here. in the pollen. And I'm feeling a little woozy. So if I say anything untoward, you'll know why. All right, we have two exciting guests today and one really dull guest. Actually, no, here's a good news. The dull guest canceled. So we have two exciting guests today. In our one, we're talking to Kate Gorka. Did Gorka get it? Sebastian Gorka's wife has written a book called NextGen Marxism. Very excited to have Kate Gorka on to talk about her book. That's in a few minutes. In hour two, we're going to take it down a notch. We're going to get mellow. We're going to bring on John Zmirak. John Zmirak. The Z is for, is that who's dingin? the Z is for, you know.

For the Krakken. The Z is for the Krakken. No, no, the Z is for super mellow. It's like Z, Z, Z, Z. Like, we're all going to go to sleep because, you know, Zmirak is a mellow guy. So in our two, we're going to take it down a notch. We're going to go to John Zmirak and we're going to talk about crazy stuff.

So, Chris, there's a few things that I wanted to share with the group before we get to Kate Gorka and John Zmirak. I want to say that to go. from Michigan to Louisville, Kentucky, and back to Michigan is very disconcerting because they're completely different cultures. Michigan is extraordinarily Dutch, almost unpleasantly Dutch, way too Dutch. My host, the Heiseng has hosted me and they gave me, they're having their tulip festival. That's pretty Dutch. No, it's extremely Dutch. Listen, it's Holland, Michigan, right? So there's Grand Rapids, there's Holland. It's extremely Dutch.

And he gave me a t-shirt with a picture of Michigan and it says Dutch Empire. Like, it is big time Dutch. Well, I've heard that the, in that neck of the woods that the tulip bulbs are the new crypto. No, that's 400 years ago, but close enough, close enough. So anyway, yes, was at the Kentucky Derby. What can I say about the Kentucky Derby? My gosh, the Trouts of Dallas, our friends invited us. We've never been at the Kentucky Derby. It was the 150th running of the Kentucky Derby. And the trouts have a farm in Lexington or near Lexington called Windstar Farm. And it is one of the premier horse farms in the world. It is amazing. They have literally hundreds of horses. So it was just an amazing insight into the world.

of these thoroughbred horses. I mean, the economy of it, I mean, it is, it's astonishing. A few years ago, one of their horses, Justify won the Triple Crown. In 2018, Justify won the Triple Crown. So, won the Derby, won the Preakness, won the Belmont Stakes. Unbelievable, we were there. They won, that horse won on purpose. We won on purpose.

It was no mistake. That's right. And it was, and we, we, we, we were. were there at Belmont and I got a photo of Justify crossing the finish line. I have it on my phone. I mean, it was an amazing moment. It's like the triple crown. Boom. Just won the triple crown. This time they didn't have a horse in the race literally because they had a horse, but there was some injury or something. So, but I tell you to be at the Kentucky Derby, there were 156,000 people, not including staff, which brings it up to like literally 200,000 people who were there. So it's crowded. It's crazy. The hats, I posted on Instagram, and I should put it on

Twitter. Suzanne just looked fantastic. She had this, you know, Kentucky Derby hat, beautiful dress. Your wife, as they say, understood the assignment. She got an A plus on that. That's exactly correct. Yeah. And so I'll post that on Twitter and probably in the email that we sent out. But I already put it on Instagram. Really, I wore it. like red pants. They weren't quite rose-colored. I don't know what they were, color they were.

They were crossed red. Magenta, maybe magenta? No, but your tongue. I will never wear magenta pants. But anyway, I was wearing searsucker. You know, it was the Kentucky Derby. It was amazing. It was amazing.

Did you have a thing where you ran into somebody else with the same pants? Did that happen? I'm not joking. This is true. Near the end of the whole, thing because we were up in this fancy suite. Governor Abbott, Greg Abbott was there. I talked to Governor Abbott. I talked to Ken Paxton was there, who is the heroic Attorney General of Texas.

He should run for Senator John Corn and the Rhino. He should run for his Senate seat. Ken Paxson is such a hero. Oh, my gosh. He was there. Taylor Sheridan was there. I got to know Taylor. Sheridan. Now, if you don't know who Taylor Sheridan is, he is the genius behind Yellowstone, 1883, 1924. I mean, the guy is a big, big, big deal. I wasn't really aware of him. He's a, he's an industry titan in the space of television. I'm going to try to get him for Socrates in the city interview, because I talked to, I spent a lot of time with him, and he's not that smart. No, actually, on the contrary, he's so smart that I thought, talking to him about writing and the business, whatever, it would kind of be a great Socrates in the city because he really is, he's not just at the top of his game in Hollywood and TV and whatever, but he's a real student of the art of telling a story.

I mean, genuinely, I'm not. I've always done it kind of instinctively, but he's a student of it. And when you talk to him, and again, I talked to him quite a bit, he's brilliant. I mean, it's absolutely amazing. But so I have as my assignment to watch 1883, you know, to kind of catch up. But anyway, hanging out with him, he's a real cowboy. I mean, he looks like a cartoon cowboy. I mean, he's got the hat. He's got the sunglasses and the, you know, the whole, the swagger, the boots, the whole thing. But really good to meet him.

It was just, it was just fascinating. It was fascinating. Okay, before we go, there's so much else I want to share. We're going to run out of time here. before I go to Kate Gorka and the, my milk toast guest, John Zmirak, in hour two, I want to tell people this week, which is day after tomorrow,

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we were together getting salted outside the White House. Am I not right? An Antifa dude tried to run me over with his bicycle. He couldn't afford a car because, you know, Marxism, it's tough. And yeah, that was such chaos, unbelievable. Yeah, the news reported on that, not accurately. People tell me what happened. And then I go, well, that's not what happened.

They said, we saw the video. Well, I was actually there. And I could tell you what I, you didn't see what I saw. It's unbelievable. We're living in crazy times. And I just have to say up front, your husband of how many years, how many years you've been together? Coming up on 28.

Well, married 28. Right. So my wife and I, we're coming up on 28. Your husband, Sebastian, has been a tremendous encouragement to me personally and to millions of folks. And, you know, we're in the fight for freedom. And you've written a book called Next Gen Marxism. What we're talking about is Marxism. So Kate Gorka, the book is brand new, Next Gen Marxism. What is the subtitle of the book? what it is and how to combat it. So I think part of the problem, this is my perspective, because I talk about this a lot,

is that there are a lot of people who don't understand that this is Marxism. Your husband and my friend Sebastian grew up in a family that suffered. His father was tortured. My mother grew up in East Germany. which was Stalinist, you know, Soviet Marxism, evil. My father saw the war as the communist tried to take over Greece. And by the grace of God, they failed after World War II. So your family and my family understands the evil. There's no other word, the evil, the atheistic, satanic evil of Marxism. But there are many Americans that don't have the background of a Sebastian Gorka or an Eric Metaxus who know this from our fan. who know the wickedness of this. And so there are tons of Americans that think like, well, well, the Democrats, I don't agree with them on everything.

And I keep saying, Tip O'Neill is no longer the face of the Democratic Party. This is not Jimmy Carter's party. This is not Bill Clinton's Democratic Party. This is a party given over to Marxism, which is a stunning thing. So thank you for writing this book, NextGen Marxism, because that is exactly what we're dealing with. Yeah, you know, and I have to confess, you know, I didn't really know myself, honestly. I grew up like a lot of Americans just sort of taking my country, my freedoms, my prosperity for granted. And it was only because of the fact that the Berlin Wall fell in 1989. I was 29 at the time. And I decided to travel to Eastern Europe, not knowing a whole lot about it, to sort of be a witness to what was happening there. I then ended up spending about 18 of, the next years living and working over there. And it was only that experience that really gave me

an appreciation both for the evils of Marxism and socialism, but also for the extraordinary gift that we have with our freedoms here in America. And I think more and more people are waking up to the fact that it's not China, Russia, Venezuela, and North Korea, Cuba that are the anomaly, but in fact, we are the anomaly, right? The fact that we are a self-governing republic, that we have peaceful, largely peaceful transitions of power, we are the anomaly. And it's just more important than ever that we recognize that and that we step up to the fight to protect it. Well, that's the whole thing is that people just don't realize. And again, you can understand why they don't, why you didn't and why I didn't. I mean, my parents told me about this stuff.

my whole life. But you know, you live in America. You think, well, it's a different world now, mom, dad. And you realize, no. If you're a Christian, you know, there's just as much sin in the world, just so much demonic activity in the world as there ever was. And history ebbs and flows. And sometimes you get into a bubble and you think, oh, this is normal. No, it's a bubble. This is liberty, self-government, all this stuff. It will go away if you don't keep the Republic in the words of Benjamin Franklin, if you're not working at it, if you're not understanding, if you're not vigilant, it goes away because human nature is the same. And so here we are in America, seeing what I promise I never thought I would see in my lifetime. I remember actually

probably about 15 years ago meeting Baroness Cox, Caroline Cox in the UK in the House of Lords. And she was telling me how she was a nurse in England. This is like around early 70s and how the Marxists, the communists were taking over and there was violence. And I remember thinking, what, really? That happened in England? It is now happening right here in the United States. You're seeing the face of evil. You're seeing the face of a worldview that does not acknowledge God, that does not acknowledge the sanctity of the individual, that doesn't have any of the values that we have taken for granted in America. We're now seeing it. It's out in the open. It's anti-American. It's anti-God. It is utterly hostile to everything that we have and that we've taken for granted.

And so we need to wake people up. And that's obviously what you've done in the book, Next Gen Marxism, what it is and how to combat it. What made you, Kate Gorka, what made you say, I need to write a book about this? So first, let me just acknowledge my co-author, Mike Gonzalez, because he has a background more akin to yours and Sebastian's. He actually grew up in Cuba as a child and had to flee with his family when he was a boy. So it's very personal for him as well. When I left the Trump administration and went over to the Heritage Foundation in January of 2020, a lot of things were going on in the world.

So I would say first, the main thing was we were fighting back against the 1619 project. You remember that special edition of the New York Times Sunday magazine came out in August of 2019 telling us that we are a fundamentally racist country, right? That was kind of one of the first big things. And then, of course, you had the George Floyd riots take place across the country. And Mike and I just, you know, we both cared a lot about this stuff. We were talking about it all the time. And we finally just said to each other, we need to do more. to both understand ourselves how we got here, but to be able to explain it to the American people.

And even more importantly, how do we get out of this? How do we fight it? You have to understand it if you want to fight it. And I would say that was our big driver. I would say it was both those elements. But I think a third piece I would just add in is also seeing the degree to which the radical crazy left had put children on the front line of their culture war.

I think that was also a really big sort of not wake up call, but I would say motivator, right? It was really that year with COVID shutdowns, parents were seeing what was, you know, on their kids' computer screens. It was really the beginning of the great parent awakening. And those were all the factors that led us to feel that this book needed to be written. You know, it's interesting. When you talk about this, what we're seeing, and this is what I want to be clear with my audience, when you move away from

God's plan, from God's first best, you're simultaneously moving to atheism, Marxism, and to paganism. In other words, the devil doesn't really care if you're worshipping other gods or if you pretend you don't believe in God or you believe in the state, whatever. it's all roughly the same. And we're seeing this, you know, when you look at the, the activist, the pro-Hamas, imagine folks, not pro-Palist, imagine being pro-Hamas. These are satanic, sadistic, cruel, evil monsters who beheaded children and raped women. Those people, you think we have kids on our campuses saying that we're pro-Hamas. And you think, what does it take to go there, to be somehow complicit, with the demonic, but then to look yourself like you're, you're pagan, right? I mean, when you think of the nose rings and the tattoos or whatever, it's a slide toward paganism on the one hand,

toward worshiping demons. And at the same time, it is complicity with Marxist atheism. Either one is false. Either one is evil, but we're seeing both mixed in. So you have some people that they think, well, I'm a Marxist. I'm not a pagan, but we're just seeing, in a sense, this coalition of madness, this coalition of this war against God. And we need to understand it.

So it's kind of, it's neo-paganism at the same time that it's neo-Marxism. Folks, I'm talking to Kate Gorka, who with Mike Gonzalez has written this book. It is called NextGen Marxism, what it is and how to combat it. that we understand that. Before we go to the break, I want to remind you, we are freeing slaves in the sedan. You have to join us. Go to metaxistalk.com. Folks, do not miss this. Please don't miss this. Go to Metaxistalk.com. Click on the banner for CSI. This is a glorious thing that we get to do. Please go to Metaxistalk.com. Click on that and join us in this fight. We'll be right back. I like knowing exactly where my meat comes from. And with Moink,

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And this voice, I mean, there's no. one who has a voice like your husband. Did he always have that voice or is he just putting on a character? Be honest now. No, honestly, he's always had that voice. And I think if anything, I've just helped to soften it a little bit. I mean, how did you guys meet? I have to ask you this because I really want to know. So we actually met at a conference in Romania. It was a conference on ethnic conflict. So if you remember the time of the early 90s around the Yugoslav war, and everybody was afraid that the ethnic conflict going on in Yugoslavia was going to spill over to other parts of Eastern Europe. So we went to a conference on this. We were both guests at the

conference. And the key moment was I overslept on the first morning of the conference. And I came into this room with about 80 people seated around a huge table at the Black Sea Coast of Romania. There was one empty seat. Sebastian, the seat was next to Sebastian. I took the seat and sat down and God bless him. He slid his coffee over to me. And I just thought, yeah, I'm yours. That's all it took. Guys, are you listening? Guys, are you listening? Actually, what a beautiful. See, I'm so glad I asked that. How wonderful and how extraordinary, right? There just happened to be a seat free and it was next to the man that you've now been married to 28 years. That's, that's just beautiful. It's beautiful. I didn't realize you'd been with heritage. You were with the heritage or

are you with Heritage Foundation? No, I was with them for a couple of years and I left in the summer of 2022 because honestly, so I'd been traveling a lot with them working with the parent groups around the country. And Mike and I really wanted to write the book. And I could not get the book written while I was doing that job. But, So I left to write the book. But the other reason I left was, and I think this is worth mentioning, is that after what my career has been about 35 years, after about 35 years of working in national security, I, you know, I finally came to the recognition that the problems we're seeing in our country

are not going to be solved in Washington. Yes, it will make a huge difference when President Trump comes back to the White House. but even he will not solve this entirely. And I realized we have got to fix this at the local level in our communities. And so in leaving heritage, I said, I am going to get much more involved in my local community, something I had not done before. And I started doing that, you know, working in various ways. I joined the board of our local community center because they had been sponsoring Drag Queen Story Hour

and they had sponsored Nicole Hannah Jones to come speak. So I joined that board and got more and more and more involved until about three weeks ago now, I think. I just got elected as the chair of the Fairfax County GOP. So I really believe in putting my money where my mouth is, I think it's important not just to talk about these things, but to really engage in the fight. And I think we all have to get more involved locally

to really fight this. Well, it's funny you say that because that's, you know, basically what I'm saying wherever I go. Like people say to me, I mean, I wrote a book called Letter to the American Church and the sequel is called Religinalist Christianity, God's Answer to Evil. In both books, I'm saying that it's not enough

that you claim you believe that this stuff is true and this stuff is false. Good for you, but are you doing anything about it? If you're not doing anything about it, it doesn't really matter what you believe. And so this idea, that people are somehow can be on the sidelines folks if you're on the if you're on the fence on this stuff i'll say it again the devil owns the fence you need to get in the game and kate gorka

it's just a joyful thing to hear you spell it out like that to know that you are in this and that you're exhorting people to get involved not everybody's going to be able to do the same thing but we've got to get involved we've got to understand what is happening uh which is why you should get a copy of this book next gen marxism understand it. Then when you understand it, you've got to do something about it. So, in your book, it says next-gen Marxism, what it is and how to combat it. So how can people be a part of fighting it? Yeah. So I think, you know, above all, we've got to shed our fear. We've got to shed our cowardice in the face of the left's bullying. I know it has silenced a lot

of people. And I think what I've realized over time is they don't actually hurt you. You just, you know, if you stand up to it, they back down. They are, they are cowards themselves. They don't have the conviction of truth that we have, the power of faith that we have. So I say stand up to it. It's very, very helpful and important to find others who share your beliefs and to not do this alone, because it can be overwhelming if you do this alone. And I just want to say, I have to give you a shout out because, you know, last, night, I held my first big membership meeting in my new role as chairman of the Fairfax GOP. And one of the things I did was I was able to advertise your film, Letter to the American

Church, because we have a GOP evangelical outreach team as part of our effort. And they are going to be screening that film on May 17th. And they are trying to get people to bring their pastors to the film so that pastors better understand the importance of civic engagement of all people, but especially Christians. So I just say thank you for what you do. It's so important. Well, listen, we all have a role. And that's the whole thing.

People act like, well, I'm going to let the leaders, they'll do their stuff. Every single one of us has a job to do. Whatever your job is, you might be a mom, just trying to be a mom, homeschool your kids. You might be able to be a poll watcher. The point is every single person has a job. Just do your little job. Every one of us has a little job. We can't do a million jobs.

You can do your job. My job is a little job. But you know what? It is what it is. It's what God gives us. So thank you. We'll be right back, folks. We're talking to Kate Gorka.

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When you get the blues. Come on, get rhythm. When you get the blues, get a rock and roll feeling in your bones, but taps on your toes and get gone, get rhythm. Welcome back. We're talking to Kate Gorka. You were just saying that you're going to be screening the film we made, Letter to the American Church for the Fairfax County GOP.

Thank you for doing that. I have to say that if we could get a fraction of Christians, involved in this pastors. It's game-changing. There's so many sitting on the sidelines. They don't seem to have any idea that God is calling them to step up. So thank you so much for doing that, Kate. The hour is so late. Obviously, you and I believe this can be turned around. We know the hour couldn't be more late, but also there's hope. Talk about that for a moment, because I think there are many Christians buy into this satanic lie that there's nothing we can do now. We're under judgment. So let's just, you know, cower in the root cellar with our slim jims and a water purification

tablets. And Jesus is going to pull us out of here. It's going to rapture us out of here. And so we're just going to do nothing. Clearly, you and I don't believe that. No. And we know that's not true. I mean, we just, we all have a role to play. I'll just keep you like a little, a little example, this last weekend, one of our local public high schools hosted a drag queen brunch. Now, in days past, that might have gone unremarked, but we had a whole big group of protesters out there. And I just think that that is so important that we stand up to this. And we don't accept that these things are happening. And, you know, every single person has a role to play in speaking out, stepping up. And, you know, what I've also really

realized more than ever before. You know, I said to you, you know, who's in the White House will have an impact, but they alone cannot solve this. But even, you know, someone like me as chair of the Fairfax GOP, I am nothing without the army of volunteers that are involved, whether it's, you know, election officers ensuring election integrity, whether it's the poll watchers, the greeters, handing out sample ballots. There are just so many things that people can do. And I think now, especially, with this insanity that's happening in our campuses. There is so much that parents can be doing right now. I'm so crushed for these families that have just,

you know, they spend all this money to send their kids to Columbia University. Their graduation is canceled. And what about these images that we saw? I don't know if you've seen this or not. Did you see the mobs swarming Fifth Avenue for the big Met Gala? I mean, that was, I'm sorry, but I think that is. really scary. I think what we're seeing. I want to tell you, I'm going to give you, Kate Gorka, I'm going to give you some pushback. I think this is good. I think this is fantastic. If you're,

if you're foolish enough, ladies and gentlemen, listen, hey, sophisticated Christians, sophisticated conservatives, listen up for a second. If you're foolish enough to send your kid to one of these Marxist indoctrination camps called the Ivy League, I went to Yale in the 80s. It was already well on its way, well on its way. these places are crazy. If you send your kid there, you need to understand that's what you're sending them into. Of course they're going to cancel graduation. Of course, they're going to do all of this stuff.

They are cowards. They don't know which way the wind blows. They know nothing. And so part of me, you know, on one hand, I acknowledge the injustice of it that, oh, people spend this money. But why are you spending this money? I want to say to Bill Ackerman and others, why did you send millions of dollars? to fund these places only on October 7th.

Wake up call, holy cow, what's happening? I'm not going to send them any more money. Thank God you're not. But why were you fooled all these years into sending them money? And when you talk about the Met Gala, I mean, I have to laugh. I don't live very far from there. The idea that the wealthy Marxists at the Met Gala were set upon by the poor Marxists marching, I just thought, what do you expect?

This is the world that you have. have created. So I mean, I just find it funny that, you know, Kim Kardashian, you know, had a scary moment or whatever it was. I don't know. But it's, of course, this is going to happen. And there's something satisfying about seeing the logical extension of this. It's finally happening right now. So I just, I just had to say that. No, I agree. But I also think, you know, this is a real opportunity. I think a lot more people on the left are being touched by this than they have been before now, right? I think, you know, it is going to be a lot of liberals. In fact, certainly the majority of the parents who are sending

those kids to those schools are going to be liberals. And I just hope this makes them bad. And I hope this makes them step up and call the schools and say, what are you doing? What are you thinking? And I think it's going to, I think it's going to drive people, hopefully, out of the Democratic Party and voting for sanity. Well, that's what's so delicious is that you finally have people waking up. It took this. It took just unsured madness to wake people up. What have we, what monsters have we raised?

And here they are all these young, pierced, tatted up lunatics sucking the thumb of, of their grievance. Like this is what they're doing. They're, they couldn't be more immature. They're like, it's, it's, it's, like the five-year-old who's sucking his thumb. They're sucking the thumb of grievance and victim status and there's this anger. And you think, wow, this is pathetic. But how good that anybody who is sane who was in the Democratic Party or who was kind of in the middle, that they're seeing this, that they're just waking up. It's unavoidable. And by the way, it is Marxism. That's why the title of

your book is next-gen Marxism, because that's what this is. And I think people need to understand that. You know, a lot of people have the misconception that Marxism was just sort of an economic idea, right? That it's ownership by the state, that that, you know, kind of in short. And the thing that's essential to understand about Marxism, and this is what we explain in the book, it's actually more fundamentally a worldview that is so antithetical to the American worldview. It's a worldview that sees the world divided into two, pitted against each other, oppressive. and oppressed, it's a world in which people cannot work together to solve common problems. And if there's anything more antithetical to the American ethos, I don't know what it is. Because I don't

think there is a country out there that has done a better job of continually working through sort of societal challenges and coming up with solutions. That is correct. That is correct. we're living in a in a clarifying moment folks that that's where we are right now and and boy we need everybody in the game uh want to remind you please go to metaxis talk.com we need your help in freeing slaves in sedan while all this is going around going on around us here uh in the west there are people women and children mostly literally enslaved you can do something about it you must please go to metaxis talk dot com click on the band right at the top of the page. We'll be right back.

Talking to Kate Gorka, who claims to be married to Sebastian Gorka. And I'm going to say I think that's true. Kate, your book is called Next Gen Marxism, what it is and how to combat it. Do you talk about gender or sex

in this book? Absolutely. So, you know, I told you that one of the reasons, Mike and I wanted to write this is because we wanted to understand how did we come to a place where parents are, utilizing their children and where teachers and librarians are advocating for pornography in the schools. Like, this just makes no sense. It's such a wacky world. So one of the things we did in the book is a deep, deep dive on sort of the sex angle, honestly.

And it was really interesting what we discovered, which is sex has been at the heart of the utopian project from the very beginning. So, you know, start with Rousseau. You can even go farther back, but certainly with Rousseau, absolutely with Marx himself, and then right up through to the present. One of the things that I found, which I thought was so compelling, was that every utopian was themselves, really a sexual deviant, couldn't stay faithful to one person. Rousseau's children ended up in orphanages. Marx was terrible to his family. Wilhelm Reich was crazy, you know, on down the line, right? They're abusers. And it makes you realize that I think many of these people actually came up with their ideologies as a way to justify their own strange sexuality. But the point of it is,

tearing down sexual morals and tearing down the family have been at the heart of the Utopian Project, Marxist project from the very beginning. So the fact that we have ended up at a place where sex is front and center, where they're trying to sexualize our children and actually destroy them sexually, this is where the Utopian Project has been leading all along. This above all, I think is important for parents to understand because I think there are parents who are truly, who truly believe they're doing the right thing by supporting their child's, quote, gender confusion. They need to understand what's driving this and that they are, they in no way should be supporting that. And they need to get back on track in supporting their children and,

and supporting the notion that their children were born in exactly the right body. I mean, you know, it wasn't until 10 minutes ago that anybody even doubted this. And so the whole idea of gender confusion, it's just ginned up madness. It's like the Salem witch trials, where everybody's insane. And you don't have people, people are not grounded enough because they're just kind of going with the zeitgeist. They're not grounded enough to know right from wrong, black and white, true and false. So they go with whatever.

These are the same people that would have gone along with demonizing the Jews as vermin, if it kind of helped them in their career. They're just lost and they're going with the flow. And, you know, you said it. I say it in my new book, Religionless Christianity. This utopianism is a satanic pride. It is satanic. It is the enemy of God. It's the enemy of the family. It is the enemy of marriage. It is the enemy of all of this stuff. And yes, you see it in the French Revolution. You see it all the way through. It's satanic. And so whether it calls itself atheistic or pagan or whatever it is, it is at war with God and God's order. It is at war with the family. And there have been many Marxists, cultural Marxists, who have been on the record saying, we, need to destroy the family. Well, you're trying to destroy God's order. You're trying to attack all

of these things. They're doing a good job. Kate, we're at a time. I just have to say thank you for writing this book, Next Gen Marxism, what it is and how to combat it. Folks, please get a copy. NextGen Marxism. We all need to understand this, folks. We need to understand it so that we can fight it. Kate Gorka, thank you. God bless you. Eric, thank you for all that you do. You're a hero.