The Eric Metaxas Show - Katie Hopkins

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

Katie Hopkins is in America from across the pond to encourage Americans to continue the fight for freedom as she touches on the Queen's passing, the new-new Prime Minister and her banishment from Australia.

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In the studio. With us in the studio, I will be speaking with our friend Katie Hopkins. There's nobody like her. She's a Brit. She is an English woman. And there is just nobody like her. She's fun. And she is very brave and wonderful.

and we will speak to her for both hours. If possible, we'll speak to her for longer than both hours and we'll play the rest of it tomorrow. She's just terrific. I can't wait to talk to her about everything, about the queen, about the new prime minister and the old prime minister and the new prime minister and everything and Boris. So in a couple of minutes, we're talking to her. I want to remind everybody, I'm going to be in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania tomorrow night. If you know anybody in the Harrisburg area, I will be there with Sean Foyt and a number of other crazies trying to get the word out about the election. Doug Mostriano, who's running for governor in Pennsylvania, he, you know, the polls are tough. Pennsylvania typically would not lean toward an amazing patriot like Doug Mastriano.

Doug Mastriano doesn't get better than Doug Mastriano. So tomorrow night in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, we're going to be doing our best to get the word out. And again, if you can join us, you can always see my schedule at ericmetaxis.com. If you go to ericmataxis.com, you can see my schedule. And I should also say that I'm speaking at a very early morning prayer breakfast this Friday in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania. And next week, I don't remember what I have. Oh, oh my gosh. November 1st, Socrates in the city here in New York City with David Berlinsky.

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Are you ready? Ladies and gentlemen, Katie. Hopkins. Come on. Here we are. I'll clap for myself. Don't knock, don't hit the desk. I am so happy to have you here. You know I am. I just love to see you. And now, for those who don't know who you are, let me say to you, leave the country. Get out.

Get out. Quickly. Out. The Tories have no place here. I want to be very clear. We're done with you. Katie, let me just, let's read a little bit about you just for the heck of it. Go on then.

An economist by background. What's with this accent? Katie Hopkins was sponsored through. Exeter University by the intelligence corps graduated from the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, wow, and signed up to serve her country for 35 years. Now, why? Can I ask why you're talking about that? I'm doing different accents.

And why the Punjabi accent? I was just going to say, right, 35 years. And I don't know, I just watch old movies and I just love these different voices. But many people don't know this about you. because you just have, you know, a little bit like me in a different way, but you've got a very eclectic background, you're hard to sum up. And yet here you are. And here I am.

And one person in one body and you are doing... And I'm back with you. And you're doing things. First of all, let's start with the dress. You are wearing a red dress because you're here in the U.S., from the UK, yes. to rally the red. To rally the red.

And I threw myself to the road about two and a half months ago, walked out of my family home. It wasn't much drama. It wasn't dramatic. I'm just being dramatic. In order to go from state to state to state to state to just help anywhere I could, to speak to anyone I can, to help lift up our side and give them the sense of positivity and optimism that it's worth getting back out there, voting red,

and trying to correct the mess that's been made of your fine country by the current administration. And that's what I've done. Well, you, let's be clear again, because there are people listening who wouldn't know who you were. I have no idea who I am. So you are obviously English. Yes. And that's not just because of your accent.

It's just everything about you. You're very English. I mean, to be at Sandhurst, so you're very English. How is it, we want to start here so people can be tracking. How do you find yourself in the United States caring about? our midterm elections, rallying the red, traveling around the country, even coming to New York City to be here? Yes, because. So, yes, I'm English through and through. My parents are English. Are they still English? Are they still English? We're from farming stock. So we come from the

countryside, best of British, I would say. And I signed up to fight for the British Army. I signed up for 35 years. You know, and some of your audience will know. I have. I have a had to come out later and be medically discharged because I was also epileptic. And so nowadays, via business, via five years living here in the East Village, via the media, becoming, I guess, one of the most known faces in the UK back in the day, I bring my fight now to the road. And the reason I care so much about America and as a respectful foreigner and recognizing I'm an outsider and so what business is it of mine,

But you really are the shining light on the hill. You really are hope for all of us as well. You don't just mean me, Eric Mataxis. You mean America. Although I am your hope as well of having a conversation today. But no, this is, look, Lincoln called us the last best hope of Earth. And there's no question. I think, listen, many people take this wrong, I think because they want to take it wrong. but the point is, when you're thinking biblically, folks, when you're thinking biblically, to praise something doesn't mean to curse everything else.

So what Lincoln was saying, which is simply true, is that this nation was essentially appointed by God for the sake of all the other nations, for the world. So this is not a me, me, me. On the contrary, we are meant to be a conduit of liberty, freedom, all of these good things. So if you heap the glory unto yourself, you're a fool and an idiot and it all goes wrong. But if you understand that it's a privilege given to us by God to be this shining city on a hill, you know, to quote Winthrop, who quoted Jesus, and on and on and on. So you really do understand America's special role.

Exactly. And it isn't, and this is, I think, chimes with what you're saying. It isn't to put my country down. Because people will say, well, at case, it's all very well, you're over there. And you're criticizing the UK. Yeah. I'm about as proudly British as it's possible to be. Like if you don't sign up to fight for your country or join the British Army,

if you're not British to your core. But what America is, to me, in a kind of analogous way, is like what do you call a plug socket that you plug in a wall? If you have a hairdry and you plug it in? A plug? A plug. Okay. Electrical outlet?

Oh, there you go. Electrical outlet? Electrical outlet? So what America is to me is electrical. Your mouth is really... An electrical outlet? You know what do you say? An electrical outlet.

We'd say a socket. A socket? Yes. Yes. Why not? What do you do that silly accent when you're doing me? 35 yards. So America is an electrical outlet for the rest of us.

And when we plug into you, it's like I can supercharge the UK. And you know what? Even walking here today, I bumped into a bunch of British people, different couples. Really? And they're like, keep doing what you do. Keep doing what you do. Yes. Well, I mean, I say this all the time because my father and mother are from, you know, Greece and Germany, respectively, those who aren't from America uniquely appreciate America. Oh.

They understand that this is not normal. This is a blessed land and to get to be here. So so many people appreciate that. And I think that you, it's just wonderful to me that you've lent your talents to, to rallying the troops. Give everyone else a break. Now, look, I want to talk to you, of course I want to talk to you about America, but I do want to talk to you about England, about the UK, because recently so many things have happened there that have riveted the world's attention. The death of the great queen, Elizabeth,

the failure of the most pathetic Prime Minister, perhaps, in history. And then just yesterday, the election selection of a new prime minister. So where shall we start? Should we start with the queen? Let's start with the queen. Yeah, because chronologically, I guess that makes sense. But so our lovely queen died.

What? I know, breaking here. Spoiler. Spoiler. Why did you tell me? We should warn people. No, but I have to say that that was very moving for me. And for so many Americans, and people don't,

some people might not understand that. Yes, so there's a thing about, you know, the monarchy, and the monarchy doesn't really need to make sense to anyone else in the sense that we all grew up with it. So when my grandparents were alive at 3 o'clock on Christmas Day, the rule was you sat down and the family together had to listen to the Queen's speech. And that passed down to my parents with my children. At 3 o'clock, everyone has to be quiet,

the children have to be seated to listen to the Queen. So it's just those moments that are part of our families and have been part of our families for as long as I ever knew for 47 years, however long I've been around. And one thing I found in common with lots of people, they were ringing into radio shows to talk about it, was people were much more sad than they realized they would be. So there was this, the queen died.

And for a moment we were all like, no, she didn't. No, you're wrong. And we saw her the day before bringing in Liz Truss as the new prime minister. And we saw that photo. So we were like, no, no, she isn't. We just saw her yesterday. So there was that. And then there was this weird sadness that we all felt in a much more deep way than we thought.

And then there was this gloriously British thing. So we love what we call a cue. And you call a line. Line. Get in line. Actually, New Yorkers don't say, I don't know if you know this. Well, you don't do lines in New York. I don't know if you know this.

But all around America, we say stand in line. In line. In New York. we say stand online. Oh, online? It's a shibbleth. You familiar with that term? A shibbleph? No, but I like the way you say it. Like a rabbit, like a rabbit. A shibboleth, it's a biblical term, but it means that that separates people in a local area. They pronounce something a certain way or say something. And so divide, you know someone's from New York when they say stand online because everyone else has stand in line. But you say cue up. Yeah, and also you know someone's from New York because they'll literally push you. out of the way to get in front of you. I mean, there is that aspect.

So we say cue, and British people love to queue. Like, it's one of our all-time favorite things. We queue for the bank, we queue for the post office, and we're like desperately polite in the queue. And we ask silly questions, like we say, oh, is this the cue for the bank, even though it's really obvious because that's the bank? Right. That's our etiquette, right?

Right. The queen, in order for us to process past and pay respect to the queen, Yeah. People stood in line for 30 hours. Okay. Two days, two nights. It went all the way down the Thames.

I saw a little bit of this, and I saw many people when they finally did get to the Queen's casket cross themselves. I thought, you don't expect to see that in, oh, secular Britain. It's not so secular, folks. It's not. We're going to go to a break. We are talking. I almost said to Liz. trust. I don't know why. They're both blonde. Maybe they're around the same age. But no, good news.

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We were just talking about so many different things. The death of the queen was very moving. I was talking about people processing past her coffin or casket. I'm not sure what it's called. her bea, catafolk, and crossing themselves. Yes. And I thought you rarely are allowed to see really into British life how many people are people of faith, but it's quiet.

The elites sneer, just as they do in this country, they sneer at it. Yes. But it was very moving. Yes. And this is, what I'm about to say has all the potential to come out very poorly. So I'm going to say it carefully. because there's nuance to it. But it is the fact that for 30 hours, two days,

maybe closer to a week, actually, it seemed, only the people who were truly supportive of the Queen and great British, ordinary people like me and my family, they came out to show support to each other, to be great to each other, to stand in the queue, in the line. And there was a terrific sense of old Britain. It was a glimpse back in time to Old London and respectfully to any new arrivals,

almost more recent British people, they stayed home because it wasn't for them. They didn't like the monarchy or they're not part of it or they belonged to a different faith or whatever. My point is that just for the briefest moment in time, Britain looked like I remember it looking when I was a child. See, now I'm going to cry because this is beautiful and this means something.

This is not just, there's something very meaningful there. And as most of us know, the changes in the UK over, you know, since the death, let's say, of Churchill. But, you know, when I interviewed years ago, actually in Oxford, England, I interviewed Peter Hitchens about, and he really educated me. And I'm always embarrassed to say how ignorant I am on so many things. But he really made me understand that the fundamental change. The kind of change that happened in America in the 60s, the loss of respect for authority and all of that kind of stuff,

the anti-American is that that similar thing happened following World War I in England in a way that decline began. And so it's so fascinating every now and again, as we just saw with the Queen's funeral and all those extraordinary ceremonies, to get to see that, that is not dead either. But I mean, the fact that it happened, it's there, these people are there, they long for this. It was like therapy to your soul. And it was so something to see Britain put forward like that on the world stage in a way that we were ordinary people, I mean, were proud of for once.

Because the reality in London is I am a minority. If you're white or Christian, you're a minority in London. And Luton and Bradford and Birmingham and Lester and I could go on and on. but it will bore people. We will never see a mayor of London who isn't Muslim. Again, that's not problematic in itself. I'm just giving the example of when you have a densely packed population of one kind, they will only ever vote according to that religion.

And you see that in places here like many. So the issue, though, and this brings us to America, is that ultimately it's not a tribalist thing. In other words, I could be, and I meet them all the time, taxi drivers. who are ostensibly Muslim, but who love America and whose faith is attenuated in some sense. In other words, they're not all in for the caliphate. They're all in for America because they're raising their kids here. And that's the hope of beautiful ideas is that they can be spread to people to whom those ideas were once foreign.

And they can take in those ideas. You are quite right, of course, that, I mean, I think the problem, Katie, and you realize this, is that if your Christianity is mostly a tribal identity, eventually it will go away because it's only a tribal identity. Exactly. But meaningfully and most importantly, for a moment in time, and that's what the Queen brought, even as she left, was a moment of real national pride and real unity. on the streets were exactly as I find Americans to be in so many great places, which is just like on the same team, wanting everyone to be okay and helping each other out. It was lovely. You know, so much of it was just very, very beautiful. And since we're on the subject of your home turf, what do you think will happen now that

Charles is king? Do you think he'll be able to maintain some of that, or is he... fundamentally opposed to those things. Yeah, it's a strange one because he's never been the most popular at any time. And of course, Lady Diana, Princess Diana was the hero and the, and remains, I think, the heroine of most people's hearts in the UK. And I honestly feel like, without being doom and gloom about it, I do feel almost like the egg timer turned and the sands of time start falling away from the power of the monarchy.

I don't want to hear that. I know, so let's not say it. It's so amazing as an American, though, to feel, I think, look, neither am I Catholic, but I think that when John Paul II passed, you know, you have a reverence for something, even if you're not quite a part of it, on some level you are, because you have a reverence for the tradition and for things that. So, well, and then this brings us to the recent crisis of the very, very evanescent reign of Liz Truss. 44 days. What a great word.

Thank you. Very well done. Thank you. I know you're a master of linguistics. Master of your language. How ironic. Terribly. No, but tell us, what do you make of what just happened, please? Oh, wait, we're at a time. Oh, golly.

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Maybe because I haven't got many clothes with me. Your nail polish, you're very red, but it suits you. If I were to wear red, whether a dress or a suit jacket, it would look terrible. No, it wouldn't? You don't like you're down hunting. Well, that's a different kind of red. That red

does suit me. Down to the ground, I tell you. So, but you, this is terrible. So Katie, Because I'm here. I have a bad influence. You mess me up. So, but you, you, you were just talking about Liz Truss.

I'm going to interrupt you. I'm going to interrupt. You should be the one talking. Your listeners should know that the makeup, lovely lady who I adore, she's from Texas, and so she makes my hair high hair close to God, right? So she goes for that. She had to come in and dampen the perspiration from your upper lip. Right.

Which I actually put down to my presence. That's right. In your studio. When you show up, my upper lip sprouts perspiration. You sweat from the face. Let me give you a two-minute rundown. This will be at speed of what's gone on with British politics. Are you ready?

David Cameron didn't want us to have Brexit. He said we should remain. But we didn't remain. We voted to leave. So he had to go and he was replaced for a moment in time by Theresa May. Theresa May didn't hang around long because nobody liked her much. And so we then got Boris. Boris promised to get Brexit done, which he did.

But then he turned into. away, can't say the rude word, sort of person who locked us down and believed in the tyranny. So we had to get rid of him. Fascist? That would be a word. I had a ruder word. And so then he was caught partying whilst he locked the rest of us down. They were having drinks parties, even the night before the Queen's husband had to be buried and she was at the funeral alone. So Boris is a bit of a jerk. Oh, that's a rude word. I would not have said that word.

Well, maybe that's considered rude in England. But over here. You can say jerk. I'm going to say it a lot more. Well, you know what we say that? It comes from in the old days when we had soda fountains and drugstores. You'd have the soda jerk was the guy who would pull the tap. So he was the soda jerk. So if you say he's a jerk, you'd be like he's kind of like a clerk.

Okay. I love that little bit of historical knowledge. So we had to get rid of Boris because he drank while we were locked down, although I was never locked down because I never believed it in the first place. Right. And then we had to get a real. of COVID as a result of that? I absolutely did, but I came back. You're a science denier and you died.

I did. I'm an anti-vactor, so therefore, what I really like is the people who were, I really like the people who had 55 boosters, then they got COVID, and then they said, oh, but it would have been so much worse if I hadn't had the, you look at it. I would have lost a leg. Yes, yeah, exactly. I don't know. How am you even walking. So then we replaced Boris Johnson with Liz Truss, and she only lasted 44 days, so the shortest serving time of any Prime Minister in the history of Britain, in which time she also managed to kill off the Queen, which is quite a feat. Wow. Right?

And now we've replaced her. We replaced her yesterday. Yeah. Yes. With Rishi Shunak. Ghazenheit. I'm sorry, what? So the new prime minister of Great Britain is a gentleman, and I use those terms,

that term loosely, not in the way I'd use it about you, because it would be genuine. Thank you. Rishi Sunak. And he does actually have, and one must never knock someone with a speech impediment, but he does actually have a lisp, which I find quite funny because he's called a Rithithynak. I thought it was pronounced Lithp. It's pronounced Lisp? Lith. Actually, that's what a Shibboleth is. Oh, I love that word.

You have to look this up. In the Old Testament, it is, it's a very real thing. Shibboleth was the name of a town, and there was some, I can't remember the details, but it was a battle, and some of the people who weren't from there were pretending to be from there so that they wouldn't be killed. And so they said to them, pronounce where you're from. And if they said Sibboleth, they would be killed. If they said Shibulah, there's something vice versa. But the point is, so the term has come to represent that. But you're telling me seriously that the new prime minister has a speech impediment. Yes, which isn't funny, obviously, but it's just that his name is Rishi Shunak. What's his name?

Wishi, no, so it starts with an R in the real world, Rishi. Rishi, Sunaq. And what, ethnically, what, is that Indian? He's Indian. Okay. And he's married to the richest woman in the UK, a billionaire. A billionaire. Exactly.

So now we have someone in charge of our country and ordinary Brits can't afford to turn on their heating or put their lights on. Yeah. Meanwhile, we have the W.E.F, the billionaire, billionaire, and her husband. Okay. But politically, what is he like? Is he like a pro-socialist, anti-Brexit? Yes, he's just, I mean, for everybody, he's a sort of snake. He's the snake that got rid of Boris, so we don't really trust him.

He has a green card, not that that's problematic. Wait a minute. How can a Prime Minister have a green card? And his wife was actually a tax avoider, so she was non-domiciled in the UK in order to avoid paying British taxes. Non-domiciled, is that like being evicted? Non-domiciled means you pretend you don't live in the UK in order that you don't pay taxes. even when you're a billionaire.

And he has a home in California. I'm just saying. Wow. Okay. Let's go back to something positive, like the death of the queen. Honestly, that was just such a beautiful thing. So many Americans watched that,

and I didn't know where the BBC was on my, you know, TV dial, but I found it. And it just was absolutely so beautiful. I love that you say TV dial. Well, sure. Right? That tells you how old you are. 110 years old.

I know. And then we had Joe Biden come across, obviously, for the funeral, concerning for everybody. Intelligence services were concerned. He might get muddled up and think it was his funeral and try and get in the casket. There was a worry.

Would that it had been. Would it that it had been that way? But actually our friend John Zmirak, I don't know if you know John Zmirich, but you actually ought to. He's unbelievably brilliant and funny. And he wrote a piece for stream.org where he talked about just this fantasy of Biden

leaping onto the Queen's Casket and saying, I'm coming with you, Elizabeth, take me with you. Anyway, it's an old Sanford and Sons reference. But, okay, so we probably ought to talk about what? I don't know. No, we probably ought now to talk about some things in America. America. America.

And we only have 30 seconds in this segment, but start us on talking about your daughter India. Oh, yes. We should come to that, yes. But I hear a lot being talked about about pro-life versus abortionists at the moment. And I guess Herschel Walker would be the example, just having come out of Atlanta. So this is a personal story, which we can talk about, about my daughter, India. Okay, when we come back, we'll talk about that.

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We'll be back. Welcome back talking to Katie Hopkins. So Katie, right now in America, you know, we've overturned Roe v. Wade, which was very, very bad law, even if you're pro-abortion, Roe-V-Wade was just bad nonsense law. But tell us about the story. story with your daughter. How many children do you have? Yes. So I have three and they're all teenagers now. So I think that helps explain why I've just spent two and a half months on the road. Just for my own kind of sanity, my daughters are at 18, 17 and then my son's 14. And I just

bought some Jordans. I don't know what they are, but they're a very large sneaker, trainer, sneaker, schneker. And I'm carrying them around with me like some idiot from my son. Right. Let me tell you about India. As it relates to Roe v. Wade, but not directly. So I was, into my first daughter, and I write about it in my book, Help, I'm not normal.

And at eight months pregnant, I was having one of those scan things. And the lady said, I'm just going to pop out and get another pair of eyes. And I can tell you, any lady will know, I'm sure some men too,

if someone in a medical profession says, I'm just going to pop anywhere, you know it's bad news. And when someone needs another pair of eyes, you know it's going to be bad news. And that's exactly how it turned out. So at eight months pregnant, from there on in, it all turned into a horrible nightmare.

So India's kidneys were four or five times the size they were supposed to be. Someone went and got, because we have these red books that show us, you know, what standard and what normal looks like. Someone attached bits of paper to my chart to show just how abnormal this child was. And I was told not to have her. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. So this is beautiful, folks. First, do no harm, the Hippocratic Oath. The doctors in the socialist, increasingly Marxist country of the UK, come to you and say, your eight-month baby has a problem, and we think the problem can be solved medically by murdering her. Is that what you're telling me? In the eighth month? Eighth months. So, and just to give a sense, I know people, I'm not, I'm not making out that people are ignorant, but eight months, but eight months,

pregnant. I get huge when I'm pregnant. So eight months pregnant. There's two of us. It's huge. And India's moving around, you know, and at home, I'm all set up and the crib's there and all that. Everybody knows eight months. This is unbelievable. And I've got parents, I'm going to get upset, I can feel it. I've got parents waiting for their first grandchild. So I'm just giving the sort of background to, so they're telling me not to have the baby because it's got a genetic abnormality. And they can't tell me precisely. what and they told me but you're telling me that at eight months but wait katie katie it would be wrong at four months at eight months they're telling you that they want to kill this baby solve the problem now before you have the child i mean it just that alone is extraordinary and you know um the other thing they did when i i was i i didn't honestly i didn't think i had the courage to not have

my baby because I didn't realize that that meant you actually had to have it as well. And so you don't need to go into the detail of that. But, you know, they told me that she wouldn't last maybe an hour and she wouldn't last maybe a day. And then they tried, they told me, and I have this written down on a letter. They told me she would be born a monster. They told me that her kidneys would be born maybe outside her body and that I wouldn't want to look. and it got worse and worse and to the point where I was so scared of everything,

I just decided to carry on and have my baby and then I would deal, someone, someone would give me the strength to deal with what was coming. And so just the other day, we got to have India's 18th birthday and she is, she has a job and she has friends

and she rides a moped to work and she's actually the person, when some of the worst things that have happened to me have happened, she's the one that talks sense to me, me because she's born. Her brain works very rationally. And she's fabulous. She's probably the most successful of all of us. If only you'd listen to those doctors, you could have avoided all of this terrible happiness. What's wrong with you? We'll be back with more. Katie Hopper.