The Eric Metaxas Show - Katie Hopkins (continued)
Episode Date: October 26, 2022Katie Hopkins continues her comments on the upcoming midterms and how she's involved in doing her part to assure that America continues to be on the frontline of promoting freedom around the world. ...
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Oh, hello. I didn't see you come in. I'm sitting here talking to Katie Hopkins, who makes me even more silly than usual.
And so that's one of the reasons I love her. Katie, you were just telling us, really,
really an amazing story. It's hard for me to fathom, as a father of a daughter, the idea,
the idea that medical professionals were effectively bullying you, trying to bully you into
killing your child on the off chance, or maybe they thought not so off chance, that she would have
problems. Yeah. And the other thing they did after they found out that her kidneys were massive,
was they did more testing.
So they put this chip through your stomach
and they pull out some bits of whatever
and they told me she has genetic abnormalities.
But as with so many things in medicine,
they can test for something and show you something's wrong
but they don't know the answer.
So then they can't say,
oh, she'll probably be like this or like this.
They just told me she would be a monster
that she probably couldn't live,
that I wouldn't want to look at what I'd give them birth to.
Are they not culpable?
I mean, this is an amazing thing.
This is so despicable to me.
Because not only did they get it wrong, even if they'd gotten it right,
the idea that their counsel is, murder your child and all will be well.
And how many people do we know whose children actually have abnormalities and all kinds of problems?
And they love their children perhaps more than they would if they didn't have the abnormalities.
But this is a satanic thing.
And it strikes me that in places like England, and of course in this country now,
how many are going along with the doctor's advice?
Absolutely.
And, you know, this idea that they make it so that if you decide to have it,
it's going to be catastrophic for you.
But the truth is, if you go through that procedure,
as they keep referring to it as,
procedure to remove your baby,
which makes it sound like they can just magic it away,
how many women really recover from that, I wonder?
You're not allowed to talk about that in America.
This is the issue.
My wife for 12 years ran a pregnancy center dealing with women with unplanned pregnancies for 12 years here in Manhattan.
And this is the point. If you know anything, you know that women who have had abortions almost always are traumatized by it on any number of levels.
And you're not allowed to talk about that. You're not allowed to talk about their pain.
They don't know what to do, where to go with the pain.
that they were told that there would be no pain.
They would be fine.
Everything's going to be great.
But somehow inside, they know what they've done.
And, of course, I must say that there is complete forgiveness in Jesus.
Now, if it weren't for that, it would be hard for me to even to let these women know the horror of what they've done.
But this is one of the things that you're not supposed to talk about.
Women are supposed to be thrilled to have done this thing.
And most of them aren't, but there's no place to go for them to talk about it.
No, and there's no way of allowing someone like maybe me to help reassure others that,
actually, I've always said I'm not a good enough mother to be a mother of a disabled child, right?
I don't think I'm that good. I'm not good enough. But actually, and it's why I do write about it in this thing.
There's lots of funny in here as well, but it is going to be okay. I can definitely guarantee it.
And you know, when some things have happened, so a horrible thing happened to me, I'm sure I'm partly to blame, but I was giving.
an award. I was tricked into flying to Prague to accept an award and it was a horrible, horrible thing.
And I was ashamed and mortified and humiliated 2 million, 4 million, 12 million viewers saw me tricked into
this. And when I got back home, it was one of those dark weekends where you do wonder how you make
it all just go away. And India, my daughter said to me, but you know, mum, did you show up when
you said you would? And I was like, yes. Were you nice to everybody and all the staff? I was like, yes.
And she was like, did you, you know, do everything you said that you do?
And I was like, yes.
And she said, so the people who did the nasty thing to you, they have to own that
because you did all the things you said you would do.
And so actually, in time, it's been India that saved me from my darkest hour.
When 18 years before, I got to save her from what I was being told I needed to do.
I'm so glad you told this story because people have to hear.
these stories. These are human stories. These are not statistics. And I'm just so grateful to you for having
the wisdom and the common sense to understand that you mustn't do what they were bullying you into doing.
But how extraordinary that medical professionals are, I mean, it's hard to fathom, really, that we're living
in a time where that's going on. And you know, when people say, like, well, I'm not ready to be a father,
I'm not ready to be a mother, I'm not ready to be a mother. You have no idea what you're ready for.
God will give you strength from the unseen realm,
and you will be astonished at how ready you are
and how capable you are and how you were born to be a mother and a father.
But this kind of bloodless thinking that has infected the elites,
it's the elites.
It's not just the medical elites.
It's all of the elites.
They have a bloodless, atheistic, bleak worldview.
Yes, and they have a very bleak view for ordinary people
that we're not deserving or not capable or not robust.
enough or we don't deserve to be accorded the opportunity to try and recover. Just get rid, get rid and put it away because they're just the little people.
But I think when people, you know, ask me how I'm so endlessly positive and optimistic, which I am, it is partly this, is that when we know that this level of evil exists, and it is pure evil, that there is a counter to that.
It means that goodness exists and it means that God exists. And that's where you can always pull back to that.
as a reassurance. It's interesting to me because the horror of the times in which we find
ourselves has pushed many people to God because they think this smells like evil. This is not
just bad politics or we disagree. It smells like something beyond mere trouble. This feels
evil what is happening. And so when you, I mean, actually, no kidding, that's effectively how
I came to faith in 1988 was when I was reckoning with real evil. I said,
okay, so now that I see that actual demonic evil exists, then it's easy.
I'll turn to God because if that exists, then God must exist.
And I think if everything's nice, it's very easy to be distracted and to forget that there are those choices that we have to make.
So I'm hopeful in the midst of these horrors.
I don't want to forget to mention your book.
You have a book.
Oh, I do.
And I'm not one of these, you know, I don't like events, just so I'm clear.
I don't like going to events where speakers are pushing a book.
I don't like the whole crazy.
In order for me to speak here, you must buy this many books.
I see all of that.
It's not that.
But this is a book I wrote during lockdown.
And actually last time I broke into the U.S.
and had to spend three weeks in Mexico hiding before I could break in.
A lot of that three weeks is in this book in terms of it's when I wrote it.
And it's just a help for life.
Wait, wait, wait, the title of the book.
If you want to sell some books, you have to give the title.
Oh, sorry.
I'm not very good.
Help.
Help.
Help.
Help.
I need somebody.
How?
Help.
The title of the book is help.
It is.
And this one is nice because lovely Mark, my husband, he made a hard cover version with a good little picture on the front that I like.
And then inside this book, not the Amazon version, this is much better.
I've written a little letter to all the people who've supported me over the 20 years.
I've been on the road doing this.
So there's a personal thing from me thanking people.
But mostly it's a guide for life.
So there's help.
I've got cancer.
Help, I'm dying.
Help, my daughter's not normal.
Help, I'm getting divorced.
All of the messiness and the craziness of my life informing this, but mostly it will
make people laugh.
It's not dark.
And it ends with some top tips about how to survive life, like going swimming naked.
Because I figure there's like...
In the North Sea?
No, come where lovely and warm.
I'm particularly Mexico.
There's a reason I think babies cry when they're born, right?
Because one minute they're swimming around and they're all warm.
Wait, no, one minute they're swimming around in 98.6 degree.
Lovely.
Wonderful.
And then some rough-ass midwife is hauling them out and rubbing them with some nasty socialist towel.
I'd cry.
I mean, I'm sure I did.
So if you have a feeling truly despairing, I say swim naked.
Oh, that's wonderful.
See, this is vital stuff.
This is very important.
And the title of the book is, help.
Help.
Help.
I'm just trying to pronounce it like John Lennon.
Help.
So, all right, Katie.
Yes.
You are currently here.
I'm here.
Yeah.
In New York City, which I love.
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Oh, hello. I'm talking to Katie Hopkins. Katie Hopkins, you're talking to me. We're talking to
each other. And you're wearing this lovely red, red, red dress. And hooray, hooray, hooray for us
being together again. So I was just in Pennsylvania a few days ago. I'm going there tomorrow. A big old
You're going tomorrow.
Tomorrow to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
And some lovely ladies came up to me.
There's 4,500 people in the audience.
And at the end, I was there for a few hours, cuddling everybody.
And some people came up and they went,
last time I saw you, Katie, you were with Eric Metaxus.
Really?
And I was like, oh, that's a nice.
Lovely Eric.
Well, you, so what sort of event were you doing in Pennsylvania?
Yes, so I was at a reawakened event with Jen Flynn.
And Clay Clark and blah, blah.
See, these are all the heroes.
But you know what was so nice about it is never the people on the stage.
I'm not really, you know, us speakers up there.
We're very privileged to have that speaking slot.
But what matters so much more is the people in the audience.
And the fact that you see them, they come in and they look around
and they can't believe how many people are in the room.
You see their little shoulders go down and they're little,
they just, you just see people just relax and think, oh, here I am.
I'm not crazy.
There are other people who love America and liberty.
I'm not crazy. I'm not alone.
And that one of the most clever things of lockdown and the COVID nonsense and all the rest of it is, and the media, is this push to make people believe they're alone.
So their own children no longer speak to them or they're disinvited from the synagogue or the church.
And then they get into these rooms with 4,500 people and they go, look at us all.
And then once you get the noise going, oh, my little hairs on my arm, stand on it.
And once you get that noise going, it is such, that to me is the plugging in of the electricity into our side.
And that's what I'm talking about.
That's what makes people think, come on.
And that's why people need people.
Yes.
Because people who need people are the luckiest people in the world.
No, actually, it's kind of funny because it's only because of you that I get this silly.
I'm telling you, I have only a handful of friends that,
do this to me, and I apologize to my audience.
Don't apologize.
Don't apologize for being fun.
No.
But when you talk about, you're talking about something that the anti-human radical left,
the bloodless, atheist, nihilistic left, it's not just anti-God.
It is anti-human.
Naomi Wolf.
Yes, of course.
Okay.
Naomi, she was in my class at Yale, and she's a feminist and a liberal, whatever.
And of course now we've come together on this host of issues.
And she has brilliantly identified all of these things as anti-human.
And that's really, that's what we're talking about.
When you're talking about the Marxist regimes or any of these authoritarian regimes,
they're ultimately anti-God and anti-human.
So when you are in a room, the point of all this is to say that it is important for us to be with other people.
So important.
When you isolate, you are really making it impossible.
to get what you need
that you can only get from being with other people.
Totally. And that's why, you know,
I know parents moan about kids on their phones, right?
You know, we all say our children are on their phones too much,
but it really distresses me to be in a restaurant or wherever.
And the first thing is people down on their phones
because you see how then even in a room full of people,
even if you are on your own, that's fine.
I understand. People are nervous
or they want to look like they're busy.
but in a room for people, it is still possible to isolate people
with these ridiculous gadgets.
But as for the naughtiness around me,
I think that's how I operate, really.
I'm a sort of fire escape for naughtiness.
So when I'm in a room, it's like the exit sign is on my head.
You just kind of push the door up, and it's like the,
so then at Reawaken, 4,500 people, Clay Clark said to me,
he rang me once only, the only time I've spoken to him.
And he went, Katie, we have to keep this show clean.
Like a zip, a ziff, a ziff.
Yeah, you might use a word, an untoward.
No, not at all, but that's all he said to me.
So, I got on the stage.
Good for you, Clay.
Eric.
Yeah, go ahead.
I got on the stage and I could feel the room like the room was ready to,
because there's a lot of bad news out there,
and there's a lot of boys talking about bad news,
and they see me come on and they can feel the naughty already.
And so I was like, Clay Clark said,
I had to behave today.
And 4,500 people went, boo.
And I was like, do you want me to be naughty?
And so 4,500 people go, yes.
So then I had permission, you see.
And Clay's at the back going, oh, no.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, listen, I have not done any of these tours.
Oh.
It never works out for me.
No.
And if Clay is listening, Clay, no, it's funny.
You're more naughty than I am.
You say jerk.
I can do.
I didn't even say jerk.
I can do.
No, in America, we can say now.
off, sod off.
You know, every language, you have different words that are, you know, that you can't
say, I know.
But, but, um, stick with me, kid.
So, reawaken is great.
But you have, but reawaken, yeah.
I, so many people, I think of as heroes and friends, have been involved with the reawaken
tours.
And Jen Flynn is a hottie, haughty boom bum.
I'm, I can't believe that you call him Jen Flynn.
Jen Flynn, a hottie, hottie, hottie.
The general.
It was my ambition to kiss him.
and I just about managed it.
Oh.
You know, see, that's where we differ.
You don't want to kiss, gentlemen?
You're missing out.
I'm telling you you're missing out.
But there's so many wonderful people.
But part of it truly is the fun.
When you believe in truth, there's a joy.
And so when you say, and it's important for us to make this point,
you and I both know that if you're just going to whine and complain about what's wrong,
you become part of the problem.
This is, you know, this is part of my.
I'm all about our team and I'll never talk our team down and in school and outscore.
I'm always about the team.
But one criticism of our side is many, many speakers spend a lot of time on stages talking about what's wrong.
Talking about stuff we know, like we know about COVID.
We all know.
We don't need to hear it over and over and over again.
We know about the election.
We know.
We know.
That wouldn't have a good thing.
And so that's why, you know, being able to get up on that stage and provide a break in the day and just make people laugh, you know,
and find the fun is so important because that is the uplift that drives our side
because they know the other stuff.
So I can be up there and they know I'm on their team,
but I'm like, Americans are weird.
And, you know, and people are like, are we?
And it's like, yes, Americans are weird because you have things like Costco.
And I don't even, I've never even known what a costco was.
But Costco is places you can buy 45 gallons of milk for one family.
Right.
That is a crazy thing.
And you have things like commercials for me.
medical items on your TVs.
But you understand that's relatively new.
When I was growing up, we didn't have that.
Some law was changed.
And it just, and so much of it is unbelievably disgusting.
But it doesn't make it all right that you only did it recently.
No.
You all still think it's normal to talk about very personal matters.
I don't.
I don't.
I have standards.
When you're sitting there eating popcorn watching Tucker and you're like, oh, yes, we could
talk about this specific issue.
I don't want to hear about it.
Yeah.
Well, that's what you do.
And that's why Americans are weird.
But you're also great.
That's, well, okay, so you have...
What?
Well, we have this election coming up.
So are you sanguine about this election?
I'm totally excited.
Sanguine to the point of crimson red.
I'm redder than red red red, so three weeks I started off this tour going through California.
From the toppy, topy, tip tip, oh, that came out well because that could have been.
gone so wrong. I like that. Toppy, topy tip tip, try it. No. Yes, because I want to
mess it up. Peshont. Toppy, topy tip tip. Teet.
See, I made the mistake right out of the day. So, yeah, you said teet and I never went there.
And you said jerk. From northern California and Sonoma and then San Fran and they're way out
in Yuba City. Not even Californians know where Yuba City is. But let me tell you, the men there
have a lot of hair. It's very exciting. A lot of hair. Have they? Beards hair.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Very exciting.
So it's that part of California that technically isn't California.
And then all the way down to San Diego.
And I have never...
They have hair all the way down to San Diego.
Oh, that is the best expression I ever heard.
I'm going to use that in my shows.
That's quite good, isn't it?
Uber City has hair all the way down to San Diego.
If you know what I mean, as it was.
That's so great.
Wow.
But I've never seen it as red.
I have never known California to be so red.
Well, there are many people.
who believe, I mean, look, I know the election was stolen.
And that's why, the reason I'll never speak about it is because it's at the heart of the despicable regime under which we find ourselves now, that they have no values.
They don't believe in we the people.
And it's horrific to me because I do know that there are many states like California where the red vote was so suppressed.
And, you know, some people say, oh, it's conspiracy theory, whatever.
Well, whatever it is, stay tuned because I think people are waking up.
Yes, they are. And you saw in Arizona, those two gentlemen who was staked out watching a drop box.
No. Oh, yeah, permanent patrol. And, of course, CNN and the rest are like, this is terrible. This is white nationalists. This is terrorists.
But no, it's two guys in a van just watching a drop box because they care so much. And I'm like, yes.
Well, there's hope. I mean, I am thrilled that Carrie Lake will probably be the next governor of Arizona.
She is Trumpier than Trump. She's unbelievable. That woman is amazing.
Well, of course, she's fantastic.
But there's hope all around.
So much hope. So much hope.
I'm so excited.
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Hello. I just want to say hello to Katie Hopkins, my guest. So Katie, you were deported from Australia.
Look, we may have covered it on the show, but who cares? People don't listen to this show so assiduously that they will be familiar with everything.
I who am here, don't remember whether we covered that.
Maybe we didn't, because you and I missed each other, I think, on my last time here in America.
But yes, so I was, remember lockdowns and Australian lockdowns were some of the worst.
Which didn't make sense to me.
There was a lot of counterintuitive madness.
I mean, the fact that Israel was so vicious on the sick dead baby vaccines, forced everyone to get that.
Australia, I never would have thought that they would have been so crazy.
Yeah, they were crazy.
So two years, you weren't allowed to leave the island.
And if you were out of country and the wrong side of that, you weren't allowed to return to your home.
So you could be on the road with children and you weren't allowed to come back home or you could have a dying relative and you weren't allowed to get there.
And at the same time, some idiots from TV land decided to bring me into the country and I've never been vaxed.
And that's why you're still alive.
All the way.
Did you hear about the 64-year-old gorilla that just died?
Two days after getting the Pfizer vaccine.
But I'm pumped. Thank you.
Go ahead.
I was like, why?
Yeah, I know.
So someone in TV land decided they were going to make a TV program during lockdown called Celebrity Big Brother.
It's a terrible program and no one watches it.
But basically they put some celebrities who aren't in a house together and then people watch them argue.
That's how that works.
So I was brought into the country during lockdown along with K.
Caitlin Jenner, and at the time she was running the gubernatorial race in California,
Thomas Markle, Megan Markle's brother.
You get the gist.
This is awful.
Yeah, it was terrible.
So they brought me into the country.
Chris Jenner is like six foot five.
Like I saw him in a room and I just thought to myself, you know, on a magazine cover you can fool people.
But in person, this is a gigantic athlete.
It's a gigantic person.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you're in a room with all these.
Lovely people.
So I'm brought into the country ahead of that because you have to do 15 days in isolation.
So I get taken to my isolation prison, right?
And my husband said to me, and you're getting a gist of it because you've spent some time with me,
Lovely Mark said, you know, I don't see that going so well for you, little birdie,
which is what he calls me.
Because like a day in my own company, I don't know why you're laughing, Metaxus.
Because I love the idea that he calls you Little Birdie.
Yeah, he goes, I don't see it going well.
because a day in my own company is a lot.
Like, you know, I need people.
I need to offload.
You're a handful.
I am.
So day two in quarantine prison, and there's so many rules, I'm not allowed to leave the door.
I have to wait for someone to knock on the door to bring me my food.
Why did you subject yourself to this madness?
Because I thought, you know what, I'm going to go over there and I'm going to raise merry hell about this crazy situation.
And I plan to do that on TV, but instead, day two in prison, I was all.
online doing a live, five in the morning, I think, and I went a little crazy and I was like,
this is the tyranny, this is people being, having their freedoms taken away, you know what I'm going to do?
The next time they bring me my food and they knock at my door because I had to wait to go and get my food,
I'm going to strip naked, forgive me, father, I'm going to cover myself in oil and I'm going to run down the 28th floor.
And I'm going to grab the military, drag them back into my room and do terrible things to them.
And then the media reported that that actually happened.
Oh, you're kidding.
I'm not.
So you're saying that they lied?
Hopkins violates military on 26th floor.
And so two days later, I was deported.
So you made a joke?
Yes.
And they actually reported it as true.
Al Jazeera, CNN, BBC, reported that I made a break for it and violated the military on the 26th floor in Australia.
And all merry hell break.
thing to be violated, but on the 26th floor, what's the world coming to?
They rounded me up and they put me on a plane and they deported me from Australia and they banned me from the country for three years.
I think it's one of the greatest things that's ever happened to you.
I'm really thrilled that you were deported and you didn't have to go through that.
But you, I mean, my goodness, it's just, listen, more and more people who really maybe aren't where we are politically, they're seeing the madness.
I just interviewed, listen to this, I just interviewed in person, John Cleese.
Oh, that's a legend.
I mean, amazing.
And he hates Trump and he's a, but on the issue of freedom and on the issue of being able to say what one wants to say and crack whatever jokes one wants to crack, he gets it.
And a lot of comedians, because comedians are usually truth tellers.
That's the idea, right?
Right.
And so that's where you're coming from.
Yes.
We need to do this more and more and more because there's a high.
hunger for this. Exactly. And that's where people say, so yesterday I was at three West
Club with the New York Young Republicans doing stand-up. And the reason for it, and people say,
I didn't know you were funny, I think I'm funny, but is that the only person in the time of
the Kings that could speak truth to power was the jester. So if you bring the funny, in the same
way that I can use an audience to let me be naughty when Clay's told me I'm not allowed to be.
If we bring the funny, we can still get our message across, and people are coming with us.
More and more people are coming with us, and it's a glorious thing.
This midterms, it's going to be a brilliant, brilliant success for Red.
Although I want to be clear, this is where I'm coming from, the midterms is really just the tiny beginning.
Oh, true.
I want to be very clear, ladies and gentlemen, that unless Biden is thrown from the parapet with Kamala Harris,
In other words, until they are defenestrated or whatever one must do, they can no longer be in the White House.
Because there's so much that needs to happen.
There's so much fixing that needs to happen.
Oh, we're just coming to a break.
We'll be right back talking to Katie Hopkins.
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Uh-oh. Katie's still here. What are we going to do now? Albin, how do we get rid of her? Katie,
We want you to stay as long as you can possibly stay.
How long are you in this neck of the woods?
Are you leaving soon?
Yes.
Today, of course, is Tuesday.
Yes, exactly.
So I leave tomorrow.
And then I'm headed to D.C.
So that's kind of like the final leg of this two and a half months tour.
Well, I had this.
So this is more of an emotional thing where I, in my head I was going, I like to, when people
say, what do I do?
Sometimes I say, well, I'm like a story sales.
I'm on the road and I sell my stories, not for money, but just for the fun as I go from place to
state to state, California to Wisconsin to Atlanta.
And so I wanted kind of metaphorically to, because, you know, I'm all about the drama.
I wanted to leave those stories on the steps of the Capitol building.
I know.
So I'm building this up to be way more dramatic.
What is this going to be like post-it notes?
What are we going to leave on steps?
I don't know.
I don't even know. I'm just going to be some sad, old menopausal cold.
lady stood in a lonely way at some steps. I mean, that's the truth of it. But in my head,
metaphorically, it's me putting the stories of ordinary Americans on the steps or as close
as I can get to the steps of the capital building. But you will do this somehow on Instagram
live or something. Oh, something. Or I will write people's names that they told me their little
private truths and I'll put them. I don't know how close I can get to the steps these days. I mean,
is it barricaded still? I don't know. Last time I was there was crazy lockdown.
Joe Biden dug a moat with a Coke spoon. It's crazy. It took him 45 years.
Or I might have to go up to the Lincoln Statue, which I love, and stand there.
Or maybe I'll scatter seeds into the pond there.
You know, I don't know what it is yet. But metaphorically...
But you're going to do something. But you don't have an event scheduled.
No. Currently, this thing sort of unfold.
Scheduled? What would you say? We would say scheduled, whereas you would say scheduled.
No, you say scheduled.
Hold on what do I say?
Leave it. You're so confused, you don't know how to speak your own foolish language.
We say schedule.
I know you say schedule.
Oh, yeah, I've forgotten my own language.
But do you use that as a verb?
No, this is a schedule.
And you would say this is a schedule.
But as a verb, do you have a talk schedule?
What would you say?
I'd say, I don't have a talk organized in D.C. yet.
Organized.
And we wouldn't say, oh, let me schedule something in your diary.
You wouldn't say that.
Because that's weird.
Now we've cleared that up.
Isn't that great?
So I don't.
But actually, I don't mind that either.
I don't mind when I'm in a place with nothing on.
Because I always find something on.
Like I scurry about things happen.
You find events and you, that's actually, that's interesting that you have the ability to do that.
Like a rat.
And you have the self-confidence, even though everyone who knows you would say, no, don't do it.
So when I was in downtown Atlanta, which bear in mind is, to me, one of the most dangerous cities I've ever seen.
and I've spent a lot of time in Minneapolis.
I didn't even know they had a downtown anymore.
I thought it was burned after the war.
Yes, it's essentially not a great place.
And some things happened there.
A lady was just trying to have a cigarette outside of her hotel.
And she's looking scared.
White people in downtown Atlanta are started to move differently.
They go along the edges of buildings, and they know that they're a targets.
It's that bad.
I've seen this behavior before in Minneapolis.
So she's trying to have a cigarette, but she's also kind of cowering.
And a guy comes up a,
Gentleman without a home, I suggest, came up and snatched it from her face and then told her, give me the pack.
And I was there and I'm dressed ready for downtown.
This is lawlessness, folks.
This is so evil.
Yes.
And so I explained to him that that wouldn't be happening and that he would be leaving her alone.
And I got him to go away.
And she was fine.
But there is a sort of, that is downtown Atlanta.
But the point I was getting to is I did two open mic nights.
one in a venue that's midtown and was a white people's open mic night.
It didn't say white people, but it was all white people.
And every single one of them stood up and said, I'm a trans Jew.
I'm a bisexual, this.
There was a white guy that stood up and was apologetic for being white.
Every white person trying to be funny had to have an excuse.
The fact that you have what it takes to go into those places,
I know that I couldn't.
It would disturb me too much.
I can't go there.
So I'm amazed that you have that ability
and it's why we love you.
It's an amazing thing,
that you're able to do that,
to go amongst them.
It was like a wildness.
And then the next night,
I went to open mic,
it's somewhere that I thought would be,
it was in a black neighborhood,
and it was all black.
And this isn't a color thing at all.
How do you find these things?
I mean, I'm just fascinated.
Because I scurry.
I've spent a lot of time on streets.
I know how to work a network.
Okay.
And I'm a journalist, kind of by background.
You have kind of like a con man drug addict personality.
I'm basically that I'm a con man.
I'm a really good con artist, actually.
Anyway, so I went to an open night night in an all-black neighborhood.
I was the only white person there.
And those comics, they stood up there, comedians, and they were just funny.
They were just funny, black dudes being funny.
And that's the thing.
They weren't playing the game.
They actually thought, it's my job to be funny.
And they were.
And they didn't excuse themselves.
They didn't apologize for black.
they didn't take the rip out of white people or anything.
It was about just stuff to do with Atlanta, and it was funny.
And I saw those two distinct communities operating so differently.
Well, that says everything.
All right, so you're almost done with this long trip in America.
I'm sad.
You're going to go back.
Do you find, do you believe your family will be intact when you return?
Yes, they are.
They've done great, because lovely Mark is the hero of the piece.
and he's the, I mean, it's no surprise to anyone, including you, and Alvin, that Lovely Mark,
my husband is actually the good guy.
That's why he's called Lovely Mark.
Yeah.
So they're doing great.
But I do this.
I have this.
So there's like a reintegration, like a space module landing back into Earth.
I see, I think that would be.
Even for me, that can be difficult.
Yeah.
You're on the road and people are appreciating you.
And then you go home where they're well aware, mostly of your faults.
which is what family is for.
Yes.
And there's always a challenge.
There's a reintegration for all of us.
I mean, I try to get them to understand that I'm great, and they just won't listen.
I don't get any standing ovations in my own home.
None, really.
No, but it's kind of a weird thing after being away for that.
I've never been away this long.
There's a reintegration that needs to happen.
But what I've become more respectful of, which is basically at the cost of lovely Marksing,
if I don't, then he'll divorce me,
is that they have had to get on without me
and they've got on perfectly well.
And they don't really necessarily need me
and it's my job to fit back in to how they're now working.
So there's been some learnings for me,
but also I spend like a bit of time being like overtly,
like I pretend to be a really good mum for like two or three days.
And everyone's like, who are you kidding, babe?
Are you kidding? You can't bake.
You can't, yeah.
Get back on the road.
Okay, we're going to go to another break.
The question is whether we can persuade,
to stay for another day or something.
We'll find out.
I don't know.
We'll be right back.
Hey there, folks.
I hope you've been enjoying the conversation with Katie Hopkins.
I just love her.
She's so much fun.
She gets me very, very silly.
We persuaded her to stick around.
So we're at the end of the day today.
But tomorrow, we will air more with her.
Also tomorrow, our friend, John Smirak,
is back in the United States from where was he, Florence?
I thought it was Paris.
I don't know. Europe.
Let's just call it Europe.
But he's back.
So tomorrow we've got Zmirak.
We've got more with Katie Hopkins.
Also our friend Mario Marillo, man, I don't know.
That guy, I've become friends with him.
He has stories unlike anything I've ever heard.
And I want to get him to tell some of those stories on this program.
But he does tent crusades.
and thousands and thousands of people are coming.
People are being miraculously healed.
Now, I know this guy.
This is no baloney.
It's exciting.
It's like they're not going to report this on the news.
Amazing stuff.
We also have Robert Davy.
Now, Albin, most people wouldn't know Robert Davy's name,
but they would know him if they saw him.
Yes.
He was a James Bond villain.
I think it was licensed to kill.
Yeah, he was a Bond villain.
That's a big deal.
Well, I mean, he's done a lot in Hollywood, but he's talking about the new film My Son Hunter, My Son Hunter.com.
We interviewed Lawrence Fox recently, and actually we should rerun our interview with Lawrence Fox because that was particularly good.
He plays Hunter in My Son Hunter, and it's made by our friends Phelam McAleer and Ann McEnany.
I can never say it correctly.
McAleer and McAnneigh.
McAlellan.
Anyway, hey, what does it matter?
It's an Irish.
Yeah.
They're Irish.
But anyway, so we have Robert Dobby coming up, Mario Marillo.
A lot of, a lot of good stuff.
And we interviewed some people that sometimes it's so good, I said, we need to re-air that.
So I think Joshua Broome and Dutch sheets at some point, maybe next week, traveling so much that we'll re-air those an hour or two or something.
along those lines. And Doug Giles, too. Doug Jiles. Tough guy. Do you believe Doug Giles?
I can't make, you can't make that guy up. It's like he's a character, fictional character.
All right, we should say this. Socrates in the city November 1st. If you're interested,
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