The Eric Metaxas Show - Keith Guinta & Kenny Sacht

Episode Date: September 19, 2021

Keith Guinta and Kenny Sacht are in the studio to discuss their trips to the Philippines with a group called Wipe Every Tear, focused on rescuing women trapped in the sex industry.

Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Hey there, folks. I'm having a very important conversation with my very old friend, Keith Junta, and my new friend, Kenny Sacked. Kenny, I really cannot get over the seriousness of what we're talking about. I mean, it's so ugly. It's so horrifying. And yet, you are having success, bringing Jesus into these evil places,

restoring young women it's a wonderful thing to give people hope and it's why I wanted to talk to you on this program people need to know this is real great things are happening because you're going right into these places

what would give you the idea that you could succeed at this I mean it seems like most people would just shrug and just say like there's nothing I can do you seem to have this idea that there was something you could do what did you think you could do

And what are you doing? It starts with decades ago, I found myself crying out to God and say, God, break my heart with the things that break yours. That was a constant in my life. I want to cry with the things that you cry with God. I want to smile at the things you smile with. And so I saw it and he broke my heart and I just, I just, it wasn't one of those things, you know,

know, here I am, send me, God. It was like, here I am. God, I'll do anything. If this is it, I'll do it. And he took this coach, his teacher guy. I would have never dreamt I would be here in this place. And I just wanted, we're simply making wrong things right in the name of Jesus and the power. We're seeing signs and wonders and miracles in the sex trade.

Okay, now when you say that, that's another order of conversation. It's one thing practically to get these girls to believe you can get them out of this disgusting, degrading life. But you're saying you see miracles, you see. I mean, what you just said about the worship. Yes. I mean, people need to understand there's a spiritual element. This is not just good works. We're going to do some good stuff.

It's a spiritual battle. But when you say you've seen miracles, give me an example, either of you, because I'm just fat, you know, most people should be fascinated. The girl with HIV. Two tests, and she's scared. She goes in for a third test. It's gone. It's gone. The girls get, some girls have got visions and, no, some girls have got dreams before we've come to the bar.

And this is in their words. They say, coach, I had a dream. Three nights before you came in, before one of your teams came in. And God said, listen. She says there were white, there was these white girls with Filipinas. It says, listen to what they say and trust them. And she goes, I trusted. And now she's a college graduate.

So you don't just get them out of this hell. You install them in amazing lives that you give them hope and a future. Yes. Unfortunately, Eric, and I say this in all humility, but the model out there is get a girl out of the, the bar, get her to say a prayer, and teach her how to make bracelets for pennies, and then she graduates from the program. And I saw that. I saw that in multiple countries. And I broke and said, if that was my daughter, is that what I would want? Is that the good news that we talk about?

The good news is so much more than saying a prayer and saving the girl and writing a newsletter back home saying, 20 girls believe and were baptized. Okay, this is a real bug bear of mine because evangelicals of which we are card-carrying members have often, we do stuff in reaction. I was just talking to somebody about this yesterday, and we say, like, evangelism is great because other people aren't doing it when I was growing up in the Catholic Church or the Orthodox Church, they didn't do that. So we're all about evangelism, and you think, well, evangelism, that's supposed to be the starting line, okay? You get saved, and it's not like you're done and you raise money on how many people you got saved. You now have the ability to take these people to where God would want to take them. And if he doesn't take them to heaven the second they're saved, it seems like he may have a wonderful plan for them beyond just being saved.

So you are talking about redemption. Amen. We're talking about redeeming lives, not just spiritually, but on every level. But it's still, you know, it's a really out there idea. You can understand why people would say, we just want to get them out of that hell. And they do. And you say, well, that's great. And of course, it's better than leaving them there.

But you're saying that it's possible to do much more. And so what are some of the things that you've been doing with some of these girls that, you know, you mentioned college. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that's our goal is because in the Philippines, and this is no exaggeration, you can't work at McDonald's without a college degree. Wow. That must be some burgers they're serving. Holy cow.

I've never had a burger like that. I prefer burgers made by high school graduates, but anyway. But why is that? There's so many people. It's such an overpopulated place. So if you're an employer, you're going to choose the best and the brightest and the nicest looking, the most masculine. You're going to do that, right, as an employer. And so you get the ones that speak English the best, and you find the best people to hire them.

I've been to a kiosk in a mall, and the people behind are selling peanuts. And I was with someone one time, and I said, watch this. And I go, how many years of college do you have? And they go, oh, we're graduates. Okay, there's a whole other depressing show to do about what you're talking about, because I feel like college degrees have become so overvalued. Everybody in America thinks, I've got to go to college. Why?

Like, you know, it doesn't, some of the greatest people have never gone to college. But you're just telling me, practically speaking, in that part of the world, that's a positive thing to do. Because they're not getting taught, you know, cultural Marxism and wokeism and lunacy. they're actually getting some kind of degree. That's the difference between college in the Philippines and college in America. But these girls, once you get them out, you establish them in these different lives. I mean, do you track them?

How does that all? Yeah, we do. Either of you can answer because, I mean, I'm just fascinated. I know nothing. Well, first we bring them into our homes. And the first, going back a little bit, you know, they come in and they visit, like, for one hour. We take a two-hour trip. They visit for an hour.

We feed them a meal. They're very hungry. And we take them back home. they can go back to work. That's tough. And it's a very soft sale. And then they text us, they call us, and they say, I'm ready. And then they come into our care.

We send a vehicle, go pick them up. You know, we send a team of people. So we get them in, and it depends on it. Sometimes they've only had third grade. Now we've got to work on their GED. It's called ALS there to finish grade school. Then we put them into high school ALS or GED program. And that qualifies them for college.

A number of them already have high school. diplomas. And then we, so we enroll them. We want to see them get in college to break poverty in that family line and their extended family that goes horizontally as well. Their cousins, everything. They share with everybody. And so you break, if you bring one girl into freedom, like I just explained, her whole

family from then on, it's all broke. Poverty is broken. And we've had 47 college graduates. now. And there are going to be hundreds more in the name of Jesus. Now, some people would wonder why wouldn't you be doing something like this in the United States? Clearly, we have similar things the United States, or don't we? What do you think? We do. A lot of people say, why aren't you doing it here? And I go, here's the answer. God told me to do this. He said, go to the Philippines. Yeah. So, yeah, but we do have it here. It's much harder. I mean, I've talked to girls in the streets.

By the way, we never call them prostitutes because there's a difference between being a prostitute and being prostituted. So our girls are girls who have been prostituted. Big difference. And so I've talked to those girls in the streets here and they say, I don't want to go to college. To do what? To make 15 bucks an hour and an entry-level job in America? So as you know, college is not the biggest deal here in the world anymore here in America. So it's a whole different ballgame here. Well, so, okay, God sent you there, and you have seen miracles. Keith, the thing that you wrote at wine patch.org, this must be a couple of months ago,

if people want to look it up. But that's where I realized that you have experienced this and how spiritual it is, how it's just one of these things that you can't really, you can't really understand it in the natural, because to be able to do something like this, for a man to go into a situation like so dirty, and to be able to be Jesus entering this situation, it's a supernatural thing. And so I say this because people need to understand that supernatural is real.

And if you try to operate in the natural in a situation like this, it's not happening. When we come back, I want to ask you about that. Folks, the ministry is wipe every tear.org. I take it's time to come blow your horn. Make like a Mr. Mumble. Hey, folks, I've got to tell you a secret about relief factor that the father, son, owners, Pete and Seth Talbot,

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I know you. And when I read this, I thought, this is a big deal. Yeah, the name of that piece was Jesus walks into a bar. And the same way Kenny is. just captured that poverty is the engine of the sex trade. It really is. So breaking poverty. Worship is the engine of what this revival is outpouring as we come into these bars. So for signs and wonders that I wrote about in this piece, one, we're in the room, we call it the upper room worshiping. And people in the midst of worship would just,

sometimes they would see the girl, sometimes they would get a name. And we go, over on the wall, permanent marker. We'd write names as the Lord was given. Okay, so you're talking about operating the gifts of the spirit. A lot of people listening, they don't know what that is. You're telling me you're worshipping, and God is giving some of you as you're worshipping pictures of the girls you haven't seen yet, or names. So you write it down because God typically doesn't blow smoke.

So keep going. Yeah. So then we go into and again, you have to have to have the, those Jesus eyes. You've got to see as the kingdom sees. It's the only way to do this. You can't do it in the natural. And so imagine what it's like to bring a girl. She wants to come back to the coffee shop that night just to rest. We feed her. Is that where you've been worshipping? Yeah. So the coffee shop is downstairs. Welcome Center. Welcome Center was upstairs and say, hey, come on upstairs for a minute, Joanne. We wrote that at 4 o'clock today.

They've seen her name. She sees her name written in there. What do they do? And they just break. They just break. Then they ask questions. A lot of Christians don't have the kind of faith to do what you're talking about. They just don't know.

See, I think that part of the reason God does these miracles and speaks in this way is to make you courageous that God is in this. This is not some idea I have. This is God's idea. And he encourages me by giving me a picture. in my mind or giving my friend a name or whatever it is. But yeah, that's amazing. You talk about that in the piece. Jesus walks into a bar,

WinePetch.org. You said, you see with the eyes of Jesus. A lot of people, to them, that would sound like religious hocus pocus, like, what's this guy talking about? But I know you, so I know you're not. Let me tell you two more instances that I wrote about that have just wrecked me. They're still with me. So the first couple of days, really the first day, two days,

as you're now having your heart broken for the girl, you hate the men. You see these sloppy, overweight, past middle-aged men. Yeah, in the natural, I want to murder them. In the natural, so you see this. Because what they're doing. A large man dressed messily holding hands with a petite diminutive little Philippine, and you're like, that's disgusting.

And one of the guys on our trip, he was a pastor, one of the guys on our trip, the first night, he said, I want to punch that guy. out. Well, of course you do. Well, guess what Kenny taught me. That's kind of the normal, natural response. That's the fleshly response. That's not God's response. I don't think. But, you know, let's acknowledge it. When you see that, what are he going to think? And Kenny taught me, you can't love the girls and hate the men because the kingdom doesn't work that way. These girls are in a prison, and so are the men. It's just a different sell. Only Satan can set up a kingdom where everybody's miserable. The mamasans, the bar owners,

the bartenders, the patrons, everybody's miserable. So once you see that, it's like, now my heart has moved as much towards this girl, towards this man. Imagine having a bunch of guys at the table next to you in the bar, and you buy them around to drinks. Hey, guys, how you do? Where are you from? What are you doing? And they'll tend to, you know, brag about their exploits. And then they go, what are you doing here? And you get to say, well, we're here getting girls out because God has created them for something so much greater. One man who heard this, we explained to sit,

we're not wagging the finger. How could you, do you have a daughter? What? It's none of that. It's like we're here to bring them to Jesus. This is the life Jesus wants for them. One man, he reached into his pocket, he plumped down a big wad of cash, and he walked out.

And my friend walked out after him and with tears, he was at the front of the bar, telling the men as they're walking by. He goes, I can't do this anymore. I can't do this anymore. Eric, that's revival. When we say revival in the sex trade, men's hearts are being broken just by us being there. So the men are getting rescued too. This is so beautiful. And you have to ask yourself the question, how sexes, how safe? sad is it to travel to part of the world for this? I mean, let's not kid ourselves. You kind of think, hey, that would be fun. That is so sad, so pathetic. Wow. And look, there's some people that they are pathetic. They don't even think that they have any value. They just want to have a good time.

And we need to tell them, no, God loves you, and he's got a better plan for you way better than this. This is really sad. That's right. Every morning. Only Jesus would come up with this stuff. This is amazing. Every morning I had breakfast with one man who was from Connecticut. He just happened to be there on a sex vacation.

And by the end, I had breakfast with him like five or six mornings. He was completely changed by the end of that time, just from sitting with him. And you know what? He was divorced three times. His wives cheated on him. He was abused when he was a kid. These aren't cleaned up fashionable men just coming in to. to get, these are broken, devastated men.

And so our goal is getting the girls out, but the kingdom, it's always bigger, isn't it? This is so beautiful. I love this. I love this. Let me tell you how that all started, too. We were in the red light district in Angela City, and I had this vision.

I was in a bar, and all of a sudden, there was this guy sitting there, and all of a sudden I had a vision, and I'm in this vision, and all of a sudden I looked down to my left in the vision, And here's this little guy, two and a half, three years old. And he's playing with trucks. And he's going, and God says, isn't my boy beautiful?

This man that was sitting there. There's this thing. And this is a vision. I'm missing something. There's a guy like you right there. So you're seeing an adult man. Yes. But God gives you a vision of him as a boy?

Absolutely. Playing with trucks. Yes. And he says, isn't my boy lovely? Isn't he beautiful? God said that to you. Yes, and I went, oh, God, oh God. Because I have five daughters.

I want to take a baseball bat to those guys. I want to break their legs. And that's when it all began. And we began to see them like heaven sees them. Has God always spoken to you in visions? This is a more recent thing, because that's, you know, a lot of people don't experience that. I have dreams and visions, you know, prophetic things. but no, I mean, when I was, you know, they taught me that those things don't even happen in seminary.

Where'd you go to seminary? I'm dying to know. Western seminary in Portland, Oregon. They taught you this stuff doesn't happen? No, it all ceased. And you made a monkey out of those seminary professors, didn't you? You know, I love the education. I'm one of the few that actually walked out still loving Jesus with this passion. Jesus became an academic exercise.

And somehow I came out still loving. Jesus. And you got to understand the context, right? The guys love Jesus. But I'm telling you, he didn't become an exercise. He didn't become systematic theology. Yeah, that can happen, right? It does. Like you become a professional, intellectual Christian, and you forget the heart of God. So it's pretty wonderful that didn't happen to you. During the whole vineyard revival days, I got, so you, so you stumbled into the right place at the right time. Vineyard, Jack Deere, John Wimber, all those guys. Ken Fish. Ken Fish. You know those guys? Well, I know, but I met Canada night, and I told him, I told him, you realize that girls are being rescued in the sex trade because of you and John Wimber?

The impact you had in my life back then? One day, I called, I called the Anaheim Vanier, and I said, I got to call, I got to talk to Jack Deere. Who are you? I'm a nobody. No, no, he's busy. He's with John Wimber right now. I go, I'll weigh. I had to ask him because he said, he wrote, you know, his whole book when the Spirit comes with power or what was it called. Well, Jack, for people who don't know, Jack Deere is also, I'm privileged to say he's a friend. But Jack was teaching at Dallas Theological Seminary, was emphatically against the gifts of the Holy Spirit for today, then experienced them himself and was thrown out because they said, we can't have that, you know, living Christianity here.

We prefer it in the dusty books. and he really, for years, has moved in this stuff. But, I mean, Jack Deere, John Wimber, Ken Fish, and so many others, they were really, how do we put it? They were swimming against the tide because there were many people in the, like, official Christian world that said, no, no, no, no, that's of the devil. So what irony now to see God using you in these gifts to free young women from. from this hellish, hellish life. Folks, we're going to come back more. We're talking wipe-every-tere.org.

We're talking about rescuing girls in the Philippines, wipe-every-tere.org. Folks, I'm talking to my new friend, Kenny Sacht, S-A-C-H-T, and my friend of 31 years, what? Keith Junta. We met in the summer of 1990. You remember that, right? Very good.

Oh, yeah, no, I remember. It was the summer of 1990. I was about to do an outreach with Times Square Church. I wasn't even attending Times Square Church yet. But we met on the beach in Stanford, and I think it was Chris Coglin, Steve Gatto. We were all there. And you guys were joking with me. We were cracking jokes and stuff, and I thought, this is so great to meet people that are really serious about their faith,

who are also very funny. I wish Steve Gatto were here right now, but I don't know what's he doing. He's selling desks or something like that. I don't know. He's got a real job. Okay, so we're talking about heavy stuff. Now, why do you say revival? Because I think a lot of times Christians overused that word or misuse that word. But you're saying, no, no, no, we're seeing so much happening as we rescue these girls from the sex trade in the Philippines that it gets into what we would call revival. Yeah, I think so. I mean, the prophet Joel said, in those days, I will pour out my flesh on all. I will pour out my spirit on all. And so we think of churches, stadiums for a Christian event. You know, we were down in D.C. this past weekend. Like, yes, revival is pouring. Revival's pouring into the bars in the Philippines.

So that's the way of saying you're seeing success. Yeah. You know what? A lot of our friends out there around the world, they heard about us. They found us, you know, on the web somewhere. and they've actually come and they actually starts with a phone call and say is this really happening is this really happening? I go yes and they go how and I go well it's not because I learned it in college it's that there's a move of heaven we are we're always crying out oh god might it be here

like it is there and I know there's no sex trafficking in heaven Eric and so we believe it we declare it we say God will it be here just like it is there And we start to see it. And we are very small. We get ourselves low. And we love these girls and we serve them. And we don't beat them up with Jesus. In fact, God told me one day, he says,

they don't need to hear about me. They need to see me. Oh, Eric. So that was part of it. When we walk into the bars, we don't mention Jesus. And that's not because it's a bait and switch. No, zero. They've seen so many missionaries come in

with bullhorns and Bibles and Bibles. saying who's going to hell. When they hear Jesus, their first reaction is usually not good. So that's why the Lord said, be Jesus to them, show them Jesus. And that's why we just go in and love them. And they respond because it is Jesus loving them. That's how they respond. So what is, so what's your initial approach? You walk in to these foul places. Do you stay together? Do you break up? How do you, I mean, practically speaking? Our trip, I could talk a little bit about the men's trip. We had a group of, it was about a dozen, and you really can't go in without a local

Filipino girl. So the girls are either far into the program or have graduated. Okay, so somebody... Wait, wait, right, correction. We can go in. We can go in. We just bring them with us. They can't go in. Without us. Without us. Right. Reverse. Okay, so you bring a local Filipino girl who has... From wipe every tier. Who has come to faith, who's working with you at wipe every tier. Yeah. And, okay, so you walk in. And, and... Okay, so you walk in. And what happens? So my experience, you walk in, it is loud. It's, if you're not spiritually prepared, the oppression is weighty.

You could feel it. The first night, Kenny gave us a quick tour. We hadn't worshipped and stuff. We just walked through a bar and walked out, and it was a hellscape. But when you come in full of the spirit, now you see these girls. So we sit down, you have to buy a drink. We buy seltzer soda. and the protocol is you watch the girls dancing.

They've got barely anything on. Most of them don't look comfortable. This isn't exciting for them. Are some of them drugged up? Some of them? Yes. Yeah, some of them are. They like to get them dependent on drugs.

Yeah. The pain, it helps the pain. And so then we begin praying. It's like, okay, Lord, who are you calling? And you just sit for a bit and you feel your heart move towards one. And often it's the one that's higher. behind the three excited dancers, there's one kind of in the back. Like, we want to talk to her.

We want to talk to her. She'll come and sit down, and we first say, welcome. Would you like a drink? They make money. When they get called over, they make money. If they get a drink, they get a cut on that. So the whole thing is working in a system. And so you buy them a drink, whatever they want, whatever they want, alcohol, fine, whatever.

Then we start just talking with them. And once we're comfortable is when the Filipino will then start speaking to them in their language. It's really hard to communicate in there because it's so loud. But now the Filipino comes in and begins, and that's when you just sit back and watch them. It's incredible. You just watch it. Now my work's done. I've gotten the girl to the table.

Now we sit back and they start going. And then you'll see the Filipino girl go into her purse and pull out her old bar card. to show that she was trafficked in that bar, and then she pulls out her college ID. Whoa. This is real. This is real. And then there is a way of... All on their own, Eric.

Yeah. And by the way, it's not the girls who work for us. It's our girls in our care right now. Yeah, they're not staff. It's our girls in our care that maybe been out a year, maybe been out six months, maybe three years. Whenever they're ready, they go back. But they're obviously zealous. Oh, they're filled with Jesus.

How many years have you been doing this? coming up on 10 years in February. And how often do you go to the Philippines? Normally I'm there a third of my life, but this thing called COVID. Yeah. So it's been 19 months. We were there in March. We had Heidi Baker conference, and she was going to be there.

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It's your first look at today's top stories. Available at Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google, and at Salem Podcast Network.com. Folks, we're talking to Kenny Sackton, Keith Junta. Wipe Every Tier is the name. of the ministry, where, Kenny, did you get that idea, wipe every tear? I mean, I happen to know it's scriptural, but... I was with a girl in the Philippines. At our first, we did basketball camps, we did volleyball camps.

And there's this girl sitting in front of me, and she's weeping, and she wasn't trafficked. But God said, wipe every tear. He spoke to me. He said, wipe every tear. And he says, I want you to start wiping tears. He said, you know I'm going to wipe every tear on my side. Kenny, he said, call me coach. Coach, I want you to wipe tears on your side and begin with her.

Wow. So that's how it started. We're just helping a girl. So I'm fascinated by this. 27 cavities later. When God spoke to you, he used the word coach. Coach. Oh, yeah.

He speaks our language. I've never heard God speak to me that way, like in any way like that. So that's kind of extraordinary that you hear from God. Because I say this because I think a lot of people are challenged by this. A lot of people are fascinated that this is a guy that doesn't seem crazy. And he says God is speaking to him. And then the fruit of it is so beautiful. Exactly.

But, you know, there are many people that think, wow, that's pretty religious. I don't know. I'm not ready for that. And I think, well, that's not true. Everybody was created by God for this kind of stuff, one version or the other. So it's really beautiful to hear you guys talk about this. Keith, do you, have you ever heard from God in that way? Because I don't think I've ever heard God speak to me like in words. I mean, I've had a few dreams that came to pass. So I would say that my dream life is more that way.

Yeah. I get, you'll hear the word, I got a sense. Yeah. I felt an urging. Yeah. But I have never heard an audible voice. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, it's kind of a, it's an amazing thing to somebody who hasn't experienced it to hear that got my grandmother. once told me that God spoke to her. Now, she didn't read the Bible, she didn't go to church, but she knew Jesus, and she would pray. And once God kind of touched her in the power of the Holy Spirit and said, you're the last of the 12 Sibba. Now, she was one of 12 kids. There were 17 born, 12 survived, and she was the last one alive. And God said, you're the last of the 12 Sibb.

It's a German name. It's sibling, right? But we wouldn't say that. We would say you're one of the kids. But the fact that God used that word when he was speaking to her, I'll never forget thinking, what an amazing God. That he speaks to us with words that means something to us. He really is a person. He's not an energy force. It's beautiful. That's it. Um, but so, but he, so God told you that that you're going to be doing this. Um, so what is the, what is the reality? I mean, let's forget about COVID. So you go there a few times a year from Idaho. Yes, Boise. And do you ever go with your, you said you've got six kids. Obviously, you're married. Do you go over with them? Or do you do this with ministry team or how do you, uh, both all the above. You know, we do a lot of, we do a lot of vision slash mission trips, uh, from people all over the country. They come, actually, from all of the world, but mostly America and Canada.

And they go in these short, you know, 10, 12-day trips, which Keith explained how that works. And I travel there a lot. I mean, normally, of course, but I just go back and forth. And what were you saying about Heidi Baker? Oh, dear Heidi was going to be in the Philippines. She actually made it to the Philippines, and it was the day that the world shut down.

We had a three-day conference. God, again, a vision I had. I saw Heidi Baker speaking in the Philippines. Now, how am I going to get Heidi Baker? I don't know her. Eric, I never made a phone call. And Heidi was in the country and was going to be with this. And a few hours later.

A few hours. And the President Duterte of the Philippines said, Americans, everybody, you're out of here. And she called me on the phone and says, Kenny, I'm so sorry. I can't show. She was in Manila, couldn't get up to. But she was going to be there.

Someday Heidi will be with this. Well, if God gives you vision. you don't have to make it happen. No. So it's kind of cool. But I think Mike Bickle was talking about, Mike Bickle was talking about, well, God, give him a vision.

And he almost goes out of his way to not make it happen just to make God be sovereign. That's where I've gotten. Which I find annoying. It's like, come on. But yeah, he's just like, well, I don't have to do anything.

Yeah. But that gets close to that. What's that story when people say, like, Lord says, well, I send you a helicopter, I send you a boat, you know. Right, right. And you didn't, right? You know that, right?

Yeah, yeah. I think we could be that way too much, too. Yeah. But how crazy is that? We were there. Talk about the timing of things. This was the lockdown of the globe for COVID, and we were in Angela City when it happened. And Kenny had prayed for the mayor.

So it's called Angeles City. I don't know if we've said that. No, I was going to ask. The City of Angels. The City of Angels is where the strip is, where the sex trafficking hub is. And Kenny, just days prior, got audience with the mayor, and he and Becky just ministered to him. Because think about it, you are known as being mayor of the sex trafficking capital city of the world. So they go into this office, and I wasn't even there, but I know you loved him, honored him.

They prayed for him. And two days later, the strip of bars is closed down. The sex trade was closed down, and we were there. That's crazy, and it was closed down for a long time. Now, it sounds triumphant and great in one sense, but it made for other problems for the girls, obviously. Yeah. Because they're still there. They can't leave.

Commerce shuts down. There's no food. People are starving. That might be a good segue for you. That's pretty good. So God told us prior, a year before this lockdown, he said, I want you to start feeding my daughters. They're a good friend of mine, Liam O'Brien in Australia. He shared it with me, and I said, wow, Liam. And then God started speaking to me. So we started feeding them.

And to this, right now, that's our schick. That's the way we're meeting our girls. We do a thing every day of the week, a little over 200 meals a day right now. It's going to be hundreds and thousands, we believe. And we're just feeding them. We're just loving them. We're just loving them. and loving them justly. And can I say to that, so when I was there ministering at night, remember I said it was loud, it was hard to communicate, but we bring the meals during the day. It's quiet.

It's quiet. The girls aren't under the gun to perform, and the connections with the girls is so much deeper and easier, and they are more themselves. So this feeding program is actually probably yielding even more fruit. Yeah, we have girls come into our care, right now. Now you've brought your kids over there. A lot of them I have and my wife. And you haven't brought either of your boys over to us. I have not. I would love to. I would do it. Absolutely.

It's unbelievable. I want you to come, Eric. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. That's not on our vacation list. But you know what? God has other plans. We'll be right back. I continue talking to my Chris, Penny Sack and Eind Junta, wipeveryteer.org. I hope you've already checked it out. What else can we talk about? Now, we're going to, you know, this ends today, but I want to keep you after class and we can keep talking

because there's just so much, and this is so beautiful, so important. I know you've seen miracles. Can you share any of those that would be, that would appeal to my audience? because I think that that gets people excited. Yeah. You know, we've had a lot of, I mean, miracles, you know, where healings, you know, I said earlier, HIV gone, boom, you're testing positive,

and then you're not. And we've had all sorts, you know, our girls have had angelic visitations. Well, see, that's the kind of thing I'm talking about. You know, when you say God used this word. I'm just fascinated. It's almost a prurian interest, you know, to aim. Angel, angelic visitations. You know, I think a lot of people long to see God, to hear from God.

And you say angelic visitations. I mean, I don't know if there's one you can share. I've never seen an angel yet, but one of our girls did. We were at a Heidi Baker conference, actually, a few years ago. And I was given this special permission to be up near Heidi. And but my girls were up there, and I just couldn't do it. And so I went up to worship with our girls. And I walked up.

and I put my hand just like this on one of our girls. Later she told me she was having a vision and there were angels all around this auditor. It was a big basketball court. There were angels all around. And she says, and then Jesus walked in the room. He was walking around and he was going around touching people on their heads

and simultaneously when he touched me, your hand touched me. I think that qualifies as what I call a miracle. those I mean that it has become it has become normal but we don't just like oh yon we're every day we're in awe like oh god you would do this with us and go ahead well you said it's a basketball court you said did you say that you do basketball yeah but this was a stadium this was a stadium Heidi was speaking in a stadium so there were thousands there and i just had to be god just put that kept put on my go be with your girls go be with your girls he'll get a way better story out of it. I mean, seriously, though, you hear these things and you kind of wonder how hard-hearted

are people that they just blow off the whole idea of God or whatever. What do you make of this? I mean, is there, are you making it up? You don't seem like you're making it up. You're not doing this to get rich. This is beautiful. This is their culture. And by the way, we say girls, it's offensive when you say that in America. It's good in the Philippines, our girls. So if we were saying, and they're not exactly in their 40s. No, actually some are. One is 54 years old. Well, I'm saying that it's possible, but a lot of these are practically girls.

Yeah, yeah, they are. They're 18, 19, 20, 25, 27. That's in the area. Well, from our perspective, they're kids. But you know, when everything changed is I had this vision. We used to go into these bars very stoically carrying the old rugged cross, kind of an atmosphere. And he gave me this vision.

And I went in and I went and I opened up the door and I was celebrating. and going, whoo-hoo, yes. The way we walk in. And he said, look at them with your blue eyes. And when you look at them, I'm looking at them. And he said, go up and high-five them. And I did. I actually did this.

I went up and high-five them. That changed everything. The girl started coming out when we started celebrating heaven on earth in the bars. Okay. We're going to go to break. We're the end of this hour, but we're going to keep you guys after class. I just have so much else I want to ask. you folks thanks for listening don't forget to go to the website wipe every tier

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