The Eric Metaxas Show - Ken Fish and Mike Bickle

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

Ken Fish and Mike Bickle present a special episode of "God Is Not A Theory" discussing the tumultuous situation in Israel and what the church can do about it.

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I'm having a conversation. It was suggested to me by our friend Ken Fish, who's part of the conversation. He said, Eric, I want to have you on my podcast. And the two of us can interview Mike Bickle about this event or this event. It's an amazing thing. It's a, it's, it's, it's 21 days of fasting and prayer for Israel.

And as usual, when you're dealing with Mike Bickle, there's miraculous elements. I mean, this is, this is a, this is a big deal. And so you're going to hear us tell that story. So Ken Fish and I will be talking with Mike Bickle. That's in hour one today and we'll continue the conversation in Tower 2 is a long, uh, wonderful conversation. And you'll get the background. on how 40 years ago, in May of 1983, Mike Bickle, a young man, had a series of just utterly miraculous

experiences. And he at the time, this is always telling, he did, his theology didn't support this kind of miraculous stuff. So when it happened to him, he's like, wait a minute, wait a minute, I don't get it. But in time, he got it. And now 40 years later, he is commemorating what happened back then with he's calling people around the world. You'll hear about this to pray and fast for Israel. The website is Isaiah 62 Fast. Isaiah 62Fast.com. You'll be hearing all about that.

But what he didn't know, and you'll hear this in the course of the conversation, when they decided to do this 21-day fast and prayer commemorating what happened 40 years ago, they didn't know when they called for this fast, Isaiah 62 fast, to pray for Israel, that Israel would need prayer. So that's part of the story. There's a lot more to the story, but it is Mike Bickle, for folks who don't know, he heads up the International House of Prayer, which is in Kansas. city. I spoke there two summers ago. I was there with Francis Chan and with Chris Reed and with

Andy Bird and Ken Fish and Mike Bickle. And it was an extraordinary event. I got to know them and just to see what the International House of Prayer is all about. They call it IHOP. So when people refer to IHop, they're not referring to the International House of Pancakes or referring to the International House of Prayer. But Mike Bickle is in some circles, very, very much. And so, very, very well known, but he's a very humble man. So a lot of you don't know who he is. I don't know if I've had him on the program before. I may have, but he is a very important figure in what God is doing in the world today. And so it's a joy to get both hours to talk with him and Ken Fish about what is historic. I mean, this is starting May 7th to May 28th.

This is 21-day fast. Millions around the world are participating. And Ken said, hey, why don't we talk about it on my podcast? And then I said, hey, I got a better idea. Why don't we talk about it on your podcast? And then I will put that on this program because I want my audience to know about this. So that's what we have coming up in a couple of minutes. Again, it's both hours today. It's actually important.

It's beautiful stuff. Alvin, is there anything else that we should talk about before we go to the break? Yeah, well, you've got some exciting adventures coming up. in your life and what are you doing this weekend and what are you doing next week? And are you going to a cold place next week? Something like where snow falls all the time 24. I don't know what the weather's like in Alaska, but I'm going to Alaska next week. It's hard to believe. I've always, you know, this is one of those things that I've spoken in almost all the states in the Union, but I've never visited Alaska, never spoken in Alaska, never visited Hawaii, never spoken Hawaii. I'm trying to

think there's one or two other states that I have yet to visit and speak in, or at least yet to speak in. I believe I don't think I've ever spoken in Idaho. So if there's a big church in Idaho, that feels like inviting me. But yes, next week, actually next week we're doing a Socrates in the city in Seattle. That will be next Friday, April 28th. Very excited about that. You can sign up for the live stream, actually. I want to say this more and more because I know people don't realize we now can do the Socrates events on live stream. So you can watch it as it happens.

You've got to sign up in time. You got to go to Socratesandcity.com. So we're going to do that. And then from Seattle, we go to Alaska for a few days. I get to do that with my daughter. And I thank God for that. Can I make one other suggestion? If you have a church in Hawaii, Eric has not been to Hawaii.

invite Eric and then invite me to be in the audience. Yeah. If I can hear them on, yeah. Yeah. No, isn't that funny? Like, I've never been to Hawaii because, you know, it's kind of far away. But no, I've never been to Hawaii. So, yeah, if you've got a big church in Hawaii and you want to bring me out there, I might say yes.

But it's kind of far. I might say no. I also, before we go to the break, I want to tell people, we want to send you all kinds of information, please go to Ericmetaxis.com, sign up for the newsletter. There's a lot of stuff that we do. All of these interviews are on video, and there's all kinds of other stuff, information on where I am, Ericmetaxis.com. Okay, we'll be right back with Ken Fish and Mike Bickle.

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Today's kind of a special edition of the program where I'm having a conversation with my friends, Ken Fish and Mike Bickle, about something really, really, extraordinary that Mike Bickle is involved in. He has, he's never done this before. He's calling the whole world, Christian organizations around the world, literally millions of people to participate in a 21 day prayer and fasting for Israel. It's a very big deal, and I thought I want my audience to hear this conversation. So even though I did it on Ken Fish's podcast, we're airing it today for you. Eric and I will be jointly interviewing Mike Bickle about the upcoming Isaiah 62 fast. You're going to hear all about it. But the executive summary is it's going to be May 7 to May 28, and already more than 2 million people have signed up.

This is a critical time in the history of Israel and by extension the history of the world, since Israel is key to world revival. And so with that, we're going to get going. And Mike, why don't you tell us about the origin of the origin of the world revival? Isaiah 62 fast. What motivated? Well, let me start off and just give the real simple what the message is. And then I want to say how to participate in it. And then I want to say, but it's your show. So you direct me, why Isaiah 62? Then I want to say a minute or two on each time, why is it so urgent right now? And then how did this thing come to pass? So do you mind if I go in that

order. Now, Ken and I were talking just the other day, and Eric, we were emoting over you. We think you are amazing. That's how this happened. We said, Eric, Eric, Eric, Eric, well, let's get him on the line then. So there you go. I'm embarrassed, Mike. I'm embarrassed because I know the truth there from Texas. But you guys are real sweet. Listen, it's why I love you. It's why you're friends. And even if this were not tremendously important, I, anytime I can talk to Ken Fish or to you, Mike Bickle, it's just a joy, right? But what you are talking about and you're going to tell us now is actually tremendously important. And I will try to bring it into context, but just give us, before I try to contextualize it for my audience, tell us, give us the history of, you know, give us

the short history first and then we can kind of dilate. But let me say what it is. You care about Israel and about what we're talking about a 21 day fast. It's kind of a big deal. So there's a lot. So give us a, give us the number of your connection with Israel and how central, why this is central to what's coming up on this fast. What this call is real simple, the one liner call, it's a calling a million people, although we're far past that number right now, but that's the a million. people to pray one hour a day for 21 days for Israel in May. That's it again. Let me say it again,

calling a million people to pray one hour a day for 21 days. So it's a global Isaiah 62 is what the term we're using. And why are we saying Isaiah 62? Because Isaiah 62 is one of the most powerful prophetic passages in the whole Bible about the glory of God on Jerusalem. It's 12 verses and every single line of the verse is about the glory of God on the city of Jerusalem. And most believers are not aware of Isaiah 62, which is okay. But at the end of this fast, I'm anticipating about 5 million people participating at some level by the numbers that are happening right now. At the end of this fast, May 7 to 28, 21 days, these 5 million people are going to be familiar

with Isaiah 62. and it's one of the most glorious chapters at the entire Bible on Israel and praying for Israel. So let me say that this Isaiah 62 website, this is an important point. It's not an IHOP website. That's really important. It's really a directory of people from all around the world. We have thousands of ministries now that are involved in this. They're putting their information on this website, Isaiah 62.

so people in their region can find them. Because some millions of people, I don't know, the number, will look at this website just because of the ground swell. And we don't want them connecting with IHOP. We want them connecting with- I-HOP. Again, if anybody's like, you know, listening on my program, I-Hop is the International House of Prayer.

Not pancakes. Not pancakes. International House. So I-Hop, we're talking about International House of Prayer, Kansas City, headed up by Mike Bickle for many, many years. Now, Mike, what is the website for this 21 day fast to pray, fast and pray for Israel? What is the website? And I have it on my screen. It's Isaiah 62 fast.com or just Isaiah62.com. That's good enough. And you will get right to that. And it's a list of all the ministries that are saying we're committed to pray one

hour a day for 21 days with at least two or three people, not like a thousand people. And they might not even pray together in a room. They might do it virtually on their phone in three different cars. It doesn't matter. Or they might join another web stream. There's thousands of web streams that are tapping into this. And they just pray with someone else. Okay.

Now, before Ken Fish gets the opportunity to ask you the question, I'll ask you the question. Why? Why are you amassing people to, pray and fast for Israel. The website is Isaiah62fast.com, Isaiah 62fast.com. But the question, many people are wondering why. Well, Israel, unquestionably, although most will agree with this, will be in their greatest crisis in May, in May and June of this year of their 75-year history since becoming a nation in 1948. That's a big statement. Right. So that right there, I didn't know that. I was talking to my friend Malachi O'Brien, who was talking to you the day. He kind of gave me a little bit of this. When I was talking to Ken Fish before you came on the call, he was giving me a little bit of this. But most people are not aware of this. The mainstream media is not covering this. So let's explain this dramatic statement you just made. The reason you're calling for 21 days of fasting and prayer for Israel is because Israel is facing its greatest crisis in the 75 years of

its existence. That is not a small statement. It's almost an unbelievable statement. So help us explain what are we missing. Why aren't we hearing about this? Because that's a dramatic, dramatic statement. Right. Well, first of all, this is going to surprise you. The story unfolds how God set up this fast without me knowing about the crisis. So me knowing about the crisis, it's like, oh my goodness, I'm talking to some leaders that have been in Jerusalem for many, many years. The guy's in their 60s. They know the Bible. They know history. They're sound people in their estimation. Many of them actually. And I was told a month ago when I was talking about this fast for Israel, this top leader said, do you realize this is in March? Do you realize probably

in April and May there's going to be a civil war in Israel? This is like the middle of March. I said, what? I said, that's not possible. To review, for those listeners, God called you to do this fast for Israel before you knew that Israel was in an existential crisis. Before, yes, that's the bizarre part. Do you want to tell us, first tell us about the existential crisis? When you say something like Israel is potentially in a civil war, that sounds like hyperbole. Surely we would have been hearing about this in the news. How can this be?

And that's exactly what I told this guy in the middle of March. Then I went on YouTube, and it's all over YouTube. I said, oh, my goodness, I wouldn't look at it up the right channels. I mean, many five and ten and fifteen minutes, you know, little sound bites are telling the story. From the secular point of view, from the spiritual point of view, I mean believers, non-believers, extreme left, extreme right, all these positions are universally saying, I mean, every single person, but every one of those positions, many are saying a civil war is probably going to happen April or May.

Now they're saying probably May or June, I couldn't believe it. And it's because, and as I have watched about 20 YouTube clips that are about five or 10 minutes apiece. So now, Eric, I want you know, I am now an expert on Israel policy after 10 YouTube videos, just so you guys know. But I mean, I don't, I get a little bit two or three levels down, but there's about 10 levels. But I know that they're saying it aren't every one of the different positions.

I go, oh my goodness. And in one sentence, it's called the judicial reform. You put judicial reform on YouTube and you'll get 100 videos from every position you want, but they'll all conclude probably a civil war won't be avoided in May or June. It might be, but probably won't. Men of God are saying it, atheists are saying it, conservatives are saying it, left liberals are saying it. I went, what?

So I would just encourage the audience, go check out your. YouTube, judicial reform. I mean, I can explain it for 10 minutes, but I don't want to take the time. It's so easy to find out the information. Well, look, but, but I still want to be clear when you use terms like civil war. You don't mean dramatic division. You mean civil war, you mean people. I'm hearing, no, no.

I'm hearing the people. Again, I'm not an expert. I'm only watching YouTube's of experts from all the positions saying it's probably going to happen. and even Netanyahu on three or four of these YouTubes in the last week or two, he said, we must avoid a civil war. He's using the word civil war with his mouth. And I'm going, what on earth? Is this that real?

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If you're listening to you today is my conversation with my friends Ken Fish and Mike Bickle about a lot of amazing stuff, we recorded it. on Ken Fish's podcast. But I said it's so important. I want my audience to hear it. You're my audience and I want you to hear it. And you have been hearing it. And I hope you will continue to hear it because it's fascinating.

You still have to give us the short version of when you say judicial reform, what is the pinch point here? What is the issue? What do we mean by judicial reform and why could it lead to- I can say it real quick. There's 120 members in the Kinesis. like the U.S. Senate, we got 100, they got 120. You have to have 51% of the 120 to have a government coalition to be in power.

If you lose 51%. If you go down to 49, then they have another vote and they get another, you know, it's still like England. They don't wait every four years like America. When you lose the coalition, then you lose your government. Got it. And so they've come back to Netanyahu. I think this is his third term.

and the kind of intense religious people, I'll call them the rabbi guys. That's not the right word. The real conservative Orthodox Jews. I don't know how many are in the 120, but they went to Netanyahu and said, we demand these things to happen to change the Supreme Court, or we're going to back out of your government,

and you're not going to be the prime minister anymore. And so I don't know how many of those, I'm guessing five or ten of them, because Netanyahu has 64, he needs 61 votes, he's got 64. If they pull out, he's no longer prime minister. There's several other camps like that. I won't develop it more. And Mike, I want to ask a clarifying question here that I think you've already implied it,

but just as Eric is doing, I want to make it very clear. When you say Civil War, you mean a hot war like bullets and shooting. You don't mean like a standoff where everybody hates. each other like in American politics right now. I'm saying that's what, I'm not an expert. You go on YouTube, that's, they're saying civil war, and they mean this is going to destroy our nation. All right, but Mike, Mike, but again, so I think of, I think of Netanyahu as conservative,

but you're saying that ultra-conservative, ultra-orthodox Jewish leaders are making some demands of him that he doesn't seem to be willing to go along with. So suddenly he's cast in the role of not as conservative. Is that what we're talking about? It's a little unclear. Now, Mike, you've been muted. Mike Bickle, since you're the one that we want to hear from, the idea of you being is problematic. Meanwhile, I'm going to talk to Ken Fish. Hey, Ken, while Mike is muted or working on that. You know what the issue is. I still am not clear on what the issue is in Israel. I mean, I know it's important. Otherwise, Mike wouldn't be saying this. But what do you know of it? Well, I've been talking with friends over there about this. And I don't want to take Mike's thunder,

but I will say there is, there's a dynamic going on in Israeli society, which has probably been there for a while, but under the surface. It's now come to the surface. And it's, somewhat analogous to what we've seen in the last three years in America with the rise of BLM and kind of the woke position. And when Netanyahu is talking about reforming their judiciary, there's an extreme reaction going on to that, thus the term judicial reform. I'm still not clear. I'll be honest. I'm still not clear. When we're talking about judicial reform, somebody has to make this clearer, because my audience is already tuning out. Like, well, I don't get it. We know there's a crisis. We take, I take,

take your word for it. And I take Mike's word for it, but I don't understand that the nature of the crisis. I do know that people should go to Isaiah 62 fast.com, Isaiah 62 fast.com, because we know that for 21 days, people are going to be fasting and praying for Israel. But that was planned before we knew about the crisis. So it's obvious that God's hand is in this. whenever Mike Bickle is involved in something, you always find out later, oh, yes, God's hand was in this, calling Mike to do something. So God is the one who seems to be behind this. Otherwise, we wouldn't be wasting our time talking about it. But Ken, do you understand at all? Can you say more about what it is? Yeah. So I think people who follow Israeli politics know that Netanyahu was, he had a term,

but it ended and he was he was under a bit of a taint for corruption he was in being invested for it and many people were saying well you know all politicians are corrupt etc there was there was some discussion about whether he would be removed from office right he's now returned to power but with that return let's just say i think i think he wants to reform in his mind the government um along the line of his own dictates. At the same time that you have this internal division going on over what's going to happen with Israel, as Israel, there are external threats rising because it is widely understood

at this point that Iran is going to secure a nuclear weapon sometime in May. And they've already gone on record as saying that they intend to use it. against Israel. They've said this many times in many places. And the only thing I would say at this point, because I think Mike now is actually about ready to rejoin. Yeah, I don't want to take his thunder, but I will say this. The last time someone did not listen to those kinds of threats against the Jewish people, we got the Holocaust. Wait, one of my friends wrote a book on this. One of my good friends wrote a book all on this subject. It's called Bonhofer. Folks, today as you listen to the program, and what you're listening to is a conversation I had with my friends, Mike Bickle and Ken Fish.

We did it on Ken's podcast. It was such an amazing conversation. I said, I want to play it on my show from my audience. That would be you. So I hope you're enjoying it. Let's go. I want a couple of questions answered. First of all, I want you to tell us, if you can, succinctly, why Israel is on the verge of civil war.

Can you explain? Yes, you can. Maybe it doesn't matter. But if you can. I can in 60 seconds. And you can find it on YouTube real fast, real quick. There's 15 Supreme Court of Israel. The 15 are different from America because the 15 pick each other. The government, the Knesset does not pick them.

They pick each other. And they're all liberals, according to what the YouTube is saying. And so the liberals are picking the liberals. And they're having all this agenda stuff that's the woke agenda. into law and the Knesset can't stop them. So the conservative leaders and the religious orgs said, we have to stop the Supreme Court. They're ruining our school systems.

They're corrupting our society with the woke America stuff, et cetera, et cetera. But these 15 won't give up power. So Netanyahu says, we're going to do something different. I want the Knesset to have a role in picking you. And they're saying not a chance. And he goes, I want the Knesset.

If we have 51% of our votes, we can stop a legislation you're putting in place, like some of this woke stuff. And they said, no, we're not yielding on those two points. So they're saying Netanyahu's destroying democracy. Okay, hold on. So the ultra-Orthodox rabbis are with Netanyahu on this, not against him. No, no. They're the ones telling him, Netanyahu, you better double down because they're the ones

troubled by this. We're pulling out of your government if you don't make them change. But they're saying, we're not going to change Netanyahu. We're going to tell the earth, you're destroying democracy and you're a tyrant. And Netanyahu's team is saying, no, you're destroying democracy. And this is anarchy, what you're doing. It's very similar to America. But they really have power.

And 500,000 people a night have been protesting against Netanyahu's government, though I believe Netanyahu has more people on his side in the nation. But, Mike, again, I want to be clear, the ultra-Orthodox rabbis are with Netanyahu's. Yahoo and wanting to make demanding he makes a stand. I think they're demanding according to the YouTube channels. Okay. So, but again, to clarify for for my patient audience and Ken's patient audience, this is dramatically similar to what's happening in America today. We have a woke madness that has been unleashed and it's come to a head in Israel. And so this is an existential crisis for Israel because it's being forced. So that's one thing.

Now, Ken also brings up Ken Fish just brought up the issue while you were muted that Iran is on the verge of having the nuclear weapon. They will probably have it in May. I think it's probably going to have it in May. Yes. And I think Obama is physically going to hand them the weapon just for, you know, for symbolism. So they're going to finally get what they've been wanting to get for years to kill every Jew on the planet, not that the anything wrong with that, who are we to judge, right? Just because Hitler got that, you know, had that idea. But so we're talking about something so sick and so evil. And so let me ask you,

can you add to what you think is going to happen? Because when we're talking about Iran, finally getting what they've wanted and what foolish anti-American globalists like Obama have paved the way for them to get. If they do get that, what do you suppose? pose Israel's responses. My response, I mean, my guess would be that it would be the same thing that happened decades ago. I think Netanyahu was in power, and he unilaterally decided to bomb the places that we're doing this. This is like World War III in a nutshell. One more thing on the judicial reform for just 30 seconds. The difference between America and Israel is America, the elected officials, the president picks the superiors.

Court. In Israel, the Supreme Court picks the Supreme Court. So it's deadlocked with 15 liberals, and they're not going to let anybody get in there, any democratic process, and they have power over the Knesset to put the legislation, the woke legislation through the school systems and everywhere else. That's why it's untenable. And they're telling lies to the nation about how liberal and they're doing it for human rights, which means abortion rights and gay rights. That's what I mean by human rights. Very similar. It's just. just technically different than what's going on in the United States. And I don't even understand what's going on in the United States. But the point is we get it.

Yeah. Nonetheless, back to World War III and Iran, having the possibility of, you know, killing every Jew in Israel or every Jew on the planet, they would do that if they could. We know that. So my question is, isn't part of this conversation, part of why you're calling for a 20-day fast for Israel. Again, the website is Isaiah. Isaiah 62 fast.com is because we know that if Netanyahu is in power, he will not allow Iran to have the ability to kill every Jew in Israel. So he's going to do something preemptively. Who wouldn't? Well, I think he has to. Yeah, I don't know that he has an option. Right. But the

question is, isn't that what's on the table? Isn't that what we're talking about here? Yeah, but the fact is that God has stirred up several million generations. intercessors without most of them knowing anything about this or knowing very little about it. That's what's more remarkable about it for the first time in human history. I'm guessing up to 5 million people in May are going to be praying for Israel. It's never happened in history before. My question is, God, why did you do this? The Lord says, wait, and you'll see it in May why this was so critical for me to set this ball,

you know, to push these dominoes down to get this thing going. So we don't know what's going to happen, but it's big enough to where never in history have millions of Gentiles prayed for Israel for 21 days. This has never happened in history. And again. What meaneth thou, Lord? What meaneth thou this? Before I give Ken a chance to ask you the obvious question, before you knew about the potential

civil war and judicial reform, before you knew about Israel and the verge of getting the bomb to wipe out Israel, before you knew about this, you say God called you to call for this fasting and prayer in the month of May. Can you give us the logistics on how it is that God called you to do this before you knew why? Yes. It'll take me three or four minutes to tell the story because it's a remarkable story. Big bright, shiny yellow sun.

Hey there, folks. We interrupt our program to tell you, to remind you that what do we have to tell people in? Why are we interrupting, Alvin, why? Why do we do? I know why. I know why. Well, what's what we want to say in both hours today, we've been talking to Mike Bickle and Ken Fish. We hope you enjoy the conversation.

It's actually, it's just some amazing stuff, frankly. I don't know how people don't believe in the miraculous when you hear Mike Bickle tell the story. And he's only telling you that just a few examples of this amazing, miraculous stuff. We want to remind people that you've got to. support the team. What do we mean by that? When a good film comes out, go see it. Nefarious is

out there. It's a great film. It's an important film. It's theologically correct. It's very amazing that they were able to pull this off. Steve Dase is the guy behind it. He's somebody that we love. But nefarious is a great film. They rated it

R to keep people away. It does not deserve an R rating. Both of us saw it. No way. The way does it deserve an R rating? Yeah. It's really exciting film. And the actors are superb. The guy that plays the guy in prison who's going to be going to the electric chair.

Oh, my goodness. He's incredible. Yeah. Yeah. But it's theoretically brilliant. I mean, it talks about, it shows you the reality of the demonic. Anyway, please go see Nefarious. There's other films out there.

Jesus Revolution. Oh, my gosh. Folks, come on. Oh, I hope if you haven't seen that, you got to see Jesus' Revolution. And we've talked a few times about the film Mr. Jones. Now, the film Mr. Jones, some people wrote it doesn't, oh, you didn't tell us that there's like sexual stuff in nudity and what it's like, yeah, it's a dark film, but it's a good film. But yeah, this is not a film that, you know, for young people.

But it shows the reality of evil. Yeah, and yeah, it shows reality of evil then. and even what's going on now because the complicity of the New York Times, what's going on with Russia, what's going on with the Ukraine. That happened 90 years ago in this film in the early 1930s, and there's some similarities going on with what's happening today. So it is actually amazing how history covers this stuff up, how the New York Times. I mean, if you see the film Mr. Jones, and by the way, it is a brilliant film made by Ineska Holland, not a Christian. this is not, you know, some conservative or Christian.

This is just a woman who bravely understands the evil of communism, the evil of Stalin, and then the complicity of the New York Times. It is really evil. I just want to be really clear what the New York Times has done over the years and never really faced that they promoted evil and the Ukrainian family. Anyway, Mr. Jones is just incredibly powerful. It's hard to watch, but it's one of those few films that I would just say you should watch it, you know, with a warning for nudity, foul language, and cannibalism.

Okay, so, Albin, I don't want to forget. He said, mentioned holyland.israel.travel. Holyland.israel.travel is the website. It's a gorgeous website. Holyland.israel. travel. I bring it up just because we want to recommend that you visit the Holy Land, which is called Israel, and you travel there.

Hence, holyland. dot Israel. dot travel. I am probably going twice next year to the Holy Land to Israel. I'm going to travel there, holyland.israel.com. But I think it's one of the easy ways that we can get in touch with our faith on a new level that you make your faith more real and you start understanding what it's all about. So I am thrilled. I want to film, we are going to film a documentary TV series based on My book is atheism dead. And part of that, of course, will involve traveling to the archaeological sites that are there.

So we'll just leave it at that. So please continue to enjoy the show and thank you. And have a great weekend, folks.