The Eric Metaxas Show - Ken Fish & Mike Bickle (continued)

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

Ken Fish and Mike Bickle continue their presentation of "God Is Not A Theory" discussing the tumultuous situation in Israel and what the church can do about it.

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He has, he's never done this before. He's calling the whole world, Christian organizations around the world, literally millions of people to participate in a 21-day prayer and fasting for Israel. It's a very big deal, and I thought I want my audience to hear this conversation. So even though I did it on Ken Fish's podcast, we're airing it today for you. 40 years ago, 1983, I was 27 years old. I'm 67 now. I had a young adult church, 500 of us in May of 1983, in a very dramatic way. I won't tell the story.

He called us to a 21-day fast. We spent many hours a day in a prayer room, our young adult congregation. It was pretty rough, pretty boring, pretty hard, but about five or six supernatural things happened in May 1983. I'm not going to go into it. But the point is, for 40 years, my ministry here in Kansas City with the IHop, Kansas International House of Prayer for the last 24, I pastored 16 and I hop for 24. That's the 40 years. All 40 years I've said, May 83 was the most significant three weeks in my ministry by far because of these five. or six supernatural things. So that's point one. So now it's January this year three days,

three months ago. My leadership team said, hey, Mike, we're coming up to the 40 year anniversary of that 21 day fast in May 83. Let's do it again. And I said, actually honestly, I said, no. They said, no, it's amazing. Let's do it again. I go, well, not let's. Most of you were not born 40 years ago. So it was rough. But you said, these five or six supernatural things happened. They did. But that doesn't mean we can pass again. Literally, my leadership team prevailed all in January. I said, okay, okay, okay. Then about three weeks later, we're talking. I have what I call a Baylam's donkey moment. I'm sure you guys had these before where I prophesied and did not know I was prophesying. A little bit of a negative

attitude. I said, okay, we're going to do this 21 day fast. This is February in May. The same dates May 7th, 28? I couldn't believe I said it. I go, why don't we spend all 24 hours a day for three weeks in a row on pray for Israel? And the minute I said that I tried to grab it, because I'd never thought such a thought. And our leadership team said, that's God. And I go, no, wait a second, that would be so boring. No. They said, no, Mike, that was because we pray here. we got 600 full-time staff. They serve here 50 hours a week. So it's a real workforce.

So we have 84 two-hour prayer meetings every single week led by worship teams. I'm right here in our program. You can see the studio right behind me. So we have a 10-member worship team 84 times a week for 24 years, actually. But I said, we're going to do this for three weeks in a row, 252 two-hour prayer meetings. I said, I want to take that back. And our leadership team said, no, that was God. I said, okay, two or three weeks go past.

Now it's the first of March. A leader, a couple of international leaders are in town. They said, hey, Mike, why don't you call your friends across the world to join you on this 21-day fast to commemorate this 40 years ago that you did it? Because we were kind of doing it out of sentimentality. I didn't even want to do it. And I told these leaders, like, no. My friends don't want to do it. Honestly, if they called a commemorative 40 years later, let's go on a 21-day fast, I'd say, go do it.

Give us the report afterwards. I'm not going to do this. Like, nobody would do it. And these leaders, the international leader said, da-da-da-da-da-da. And anyway, the Lord convinced through a number of them, we're doing it. And I said, oh, my God, this is ridiculous. Okay. Okay, so I'm already, didn't want to fast, didn't want to do the Israel thing, and didn't want to call them leadership team.

And that's why I mean, this was so serendipitous prophetically. Well, I called our leadership team together. About 100 of the 600 are leadership. Like two days after this, I go, guys, the emergency meeting. I've been convinced by these guys. We need to call other people in this. I just don't know this is going to work. Well, I want to say two things.

I want you to tell the story of those five things that happened 40 years ago during those three weeks in 1983 so that people listening can get some context. But before that, when I was with you at IHOP, Ken and I were there two years ago, two summers ago, and you told the story, the story, you kind of gave your end times exegesis of how the Christians, the Jesus believers were going to stick their necks out for Israel and for the Jews And now that would be a powerful witness to Jews around the world to say, this is weird. We are having our, you know, the world wants to wipe us out. And it's these born again Christians, these serious Jesus people sticking their necks out more than anybody else.

You know, three weeks of fasting and prayer for Israel at a time when anybody in Israel who's paying attention understands they're facing an existential crisis. They're facing being wiped out, facing the whole world turning against them. And a bunch of Jesus freaks led by Mike Bickle are fasting and praying for it. So it seems fascinating to me in terms of the witness that this will have for Jews, that we. I think that's right.

Yeah. So I want to finish this one little point because it's key to the story. So I get my leadership team together, the hundred of them, two or three days after these leaders convinced me to invite you guys, the nation. So I went, I don't know. I would not do it in reverse. So I get my team together, a hundred of them. I go, if we're going to do this, you've got to make this more important, the most important three weeks of your ministry ever, because this is going to surpass what we did in May, 1983. This will be the three most significant weeks of my life.

and their eyes get real big. And they go, okay, cool, that sounds neat. I said, no, you don't understand. Here's the call. Our 50 departments at IHOP, we got to have 50 departments of service and ministry and all kinds of things. I want to shut down everything almost. Their eyes are getting big. I'm talking to 100 liters.

You know, we got 600 on staff, but the 100 are there. They go, and what's that mean? I said, if this is real and you want me to call people, I wanted to be real to you. And they said, okay, what's that mean? I said, I'm asking you to shut down all the ministries. And I want you, because they serve 50 hours a week, it's a full-time job, to be 12 hours a day in the prayer room. Their eyes got so big. Normally, they're in the prayer room two hours or four hours.

Well, I said for 21 days. I said, if you will do that, I'll call my friends in the nations. Out of 600 people, 300 said, they took a deep breath. They said, we'll do it. I said, no, this has got to be real. So they said, yes. Well, some guy in our leadership meeting of those hundred was to the back of the room with a little, need of camera. He was filming it.

We don't film our leadership meetings. We have staff meetings. We just talked. He put it on YouTube the next day without telling me. I mean, I knew I saw the camera, but I forgot about him because I was a little bit nervous calling them to 12. Are you kidding me? We've never done anything like this. I mean, we do two hours.

I didn't call them to 12 hours. That seems. dramatic to me. It seems like overkill in the natural. I don't get that. Did God tell you to say that? No, I just said it. I said, if we're going to call the nations to this,

because it's the most important thing we've ever done, let's do it then. Let's do it. You don't have to. Tell me if you want to. And I said six to 12 hours, and I said, but aiming at 12, and I was, if 100 would have done it, I would have been sold, 300 said, we'll do it.

But we've never done it before. So it's kind of a big, we're kind of, sighing at it, but we're going to do it. So I said, my gosh, there'll probably be 500 people in this prayer room 24 hours a day. And so anyway, this guy captured it, put it on YouTube. Now, here's the last point. Ten days later, the young adults came to me. They said, 50,000 people have viewed that ugly little video of you talking to the leaders. I go, they did? I didn't even know it was on YouTube until a couple of days afterwards. 50,000, and they were responding, we're in. We're in, we're in. We had a, what would be about 300,000 people at the 10-day mark. I said,

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LegacyPMinvestments.com. Check it out. Folks, what you're listening to today is my conversation with my friends Ken Fish and Mike Bickle about a lot of amazing stuff. We recorded it on Ken Fish's podcast. But I said it's so important. I want my audience to hear it. You're my audience. and I want you to hear it. And you have been hearing it.

And I hope you will continue to hear it because it's fascinating. 10 days after March 10th, when it started. This is no longer an IHOP thing. Forget IHOP. Then we're starting a new website. It's not an IHOP website. Isaiah 62. And I've shared this vision, this statement on Zoom calls,

many Zoom calls, like 100 liters with 2 and 3 million in their downline. A number of those. Portugal, 100 liters, 7 million in the downline. Latin America, Spanish, 100 leaders, $5 million in their downline, talking to Korea, to Russia, to Chinese leaders, to Romania earlier today, all over Singapore, New England, I mean, Australia, New Zealand,

thousands of leaders behind maybe 50 or 100 on the Zoom call, and they're saying we're calling all of our people to one hour a day. I said, this is not an I hop thing. Then I find out there's a crisis in Israel. And so when you started, you saw the crisis and called. I go, well, when our team said, let's fast in May, I said, no. Then our team said, then I said, let's do it for Israel. Then I took the words back.

And my team said, no, that was God. Then the leader said, call the nations. I said, no. I didn't, this was a Baylam donkey in my world. I did not mean to do this. So let's be clear, 40 years ago, when God did these series of miracles, in your life in May 1983, he the Lord foresaw in May of 1983. I mean, he saw before the beginning of time, but the point is that he made clear in May 40 years

ago what was going to be happening 40 years in the future. That's what's blowing our mind in the last couple of weeks. We go, oh, my gosh. That's not a small anniversary. It's not the 37th anniversary. It's the 40th anniversary. In the few minutes that we have left, is it possible for you, Mike,

to give Ken's audience and my audience the short version of what happened in those three weeks, 40 years ago? It's a little hard, but I'll tell you one of the five of the six. And I have all this, not that your audience needs to go do this, but I told the story hundreds of times.

over 40 years. I know. So the IHOP world has heard it over and over and over and I've got it on my website, all the stories that's called the prophetic history of IHOP. And I have 10, one hour presentations of just pure stories of supernatural. Oh, no, I know. There's no doubt about it, but just for our audiences, many of whom are unfamiliar with you or IHop, your IHop, can you give us any short version of this? Yes. It's May 83. The Lord speaks audibly, you're going to have 24-7 prayer with singers and musicians, 40 years ago. I don't like that. Hold on. Audibly. Audibly, Mike Bickle in 1983, you didn't believe in a God who spoke audibly in this kind of prophetic way in 1983. Am I getting that wrong?

Well, technically I did. I just didn't ever think it would be real. I mean, on paper I did, but not in functionality I did. Okay. So suddenly in 1983, audibly you hear the voice of God. Not a small thing. It's a major story. And my statement was no. But we, because it was an audible voice of God, we put the sign on the wall, 24-7 prayer was singers and musicians.

So for 16 years that I pastored, our church go to 3,000, the visitors would see the sign on the wall and they'd go, what's that? And for 16 years, I said, I don't even know. and 16 years later, which was 24 years ago, we started IHOP, I had no idea how to do this. And then the Lord told us, what happened to Bob Jones? He told me back in May 83, he said, all over Asia, he sold smartphones. A lot of people don't know who Bob Jones is. I know it's hard for you to believe because you're Mike Bickle.

You live in a world where nobody doesn't know who Bob Jones is. Bob Jones was a kind of a kooky guy, except he was a genuine prophet of God. And we don't have time to explain that right now. But he comes into your world. He blows in in 1983. In 1993, spring of 83. You don't know what to make of this weird figure.

But he comes to your life and tells you what sounds like crazy stuff. He tells you that God said to him that people all over the world are going to to have televisions in their hands, little tiny. Unplug TV sets, particularly all over Asia and a rice pad. 40 years ago. Yes. Many, many years before the advent of anything like an iPhone, sounds crazy. But in 1983, in these weeks that we're talking about, 40 years ago, Bob Jones says this

to you. So keep going. He says it publicly many times to many people. We thought he was crazy. He said it in that time, there will be a hundred million intercessors. Gentile intercessors for Israel. That's insane. I thought the church was Israel.

I didn't ever pray for Israel. I didn't want to 24-hour prayer, and he said, no, they'll be all over Asia with unplugged TV sets in their hands, sing, singers and musicians in Kansas City. Then it went crazier than that. He goes, God's going to put you on Harrius Truman's property. Because I said, what? It was like, we're in the rich part of town. Harrius Truman was from Kansas City, but he was the corner part of town.

God's going to move this rich congregation to the blue color part of town. He's going to give you Harrius Truman's property. I said, I don't even know this guy, Bob Jones. I go, why would I care about Harry's Truman? He said, Harrius Truman was a political intercessor for Israel, but you're going to be spiritual intercessors for Israel with singers and musicians on unplugged TV sets around the world watching you. I said, what are you talking about?

25 years later, I was giving. given Harry as Truman's property as a gift, a free gift. We have 160 acres. It's probably with $20 million, I guess. I haven't checked right there on major interstates. There's three interstates. It's an incredible location given to me as a free gift, like Bob Jones said, 25 years after he told me. And not only did we get it as a free gift, it's right next to IHOP, it said, We got it 50 years to the day that Truman sold that property to this Jewish family. We got it from the Jewish family 50 years to the day, January 27. This is so rich that it's difficult because.

I know. I know. That's right. I don't know if I could do this real quick. I've had the, no, no, no, but it's good. I've had to make one clarifying comment here just so everybody is 100% clear. Mike said, I was given the Truman property. He's saying I was given, but it actually is not Mike Bickle's personal property.

Thank you. Thank you. I have nothing to do with it. I hope I'm not going to get anything. I don't want to bog down. But the point is that IHop, your ministry was given this property, which was Harry Truman's property. Anybody who knows the story, not a lot of people do. Harry Truman was a Cyrus. Harry Truman oversaw from the vantage point of the presidency of the United States,

oversaw the creation of the modern state of Israel 75 years ago. So this is very rich. This is very tough to take in the layers, the layers, the levels. And as we like to say, when we're talking about prophetic, big prophetic events, you can't make this stuff up. No, it's insane. It's a consequence of events that nobody could orchestrate except God. Bob Jones said these things publicly to hundreds of, thousands of people collectively over many, many years.

He wouldn't stop saying it. I said, Bob, I don't care about Arias Truman. I don't want to pray for Israel. I don't want 24-hour prayer with singers and musicians. And that stupid thing about unplug TV sets, and here's the next thing he said. He goes, when this happens, I was 27, he goes, you'll be one of the oldest men in this movie. I said, what movement? He goes, you'll see, you'll be an old man, and your grandchildren will be in their strength when it happens. We had a two-year-old and a four-year-old son. I'm 27. I go, my grandchildren, they're 19 and 20 right now.

He goes, and at that time, he goes, they'll have an abortion pill. They'll sell over the counter and you won't need a doctor. And the first time I met him, I go, sir, do you know an abortion is? He goes, of course I do. I go, you can't have an abortion with a pill. He goes, you will. when you're an old man, you'll be, you'll see when you're an older man. He goes, not only that, he said the homosexuals will come out of the closets and they'll parade in the streets with the support of governments around the world. I said, we got a gay parade in San Francisco. Why, our government didn't care? He goes, the governments of the world will stand in support of gay parades all around the

world. I said, you're a crazy man. There's 10 more things like that. Every single one of them happened. and it's 40 years later, and we've got 24-hour prayer with, you know, for 24 years, I go, oh, my goodness, I'm not a singer or musician. I wouldn't get to do this. And now the Israel thing is happening.

And we got the Israel with the Truman property. And because he said they were political intercessors for Israel at Truman. You will be spiritual intercessors with singers connected all around the world through these unplugged TV sets. And our web stream is all around where we got millions of people who watch our web stream. They watch this prayer meeting. I mean, these prayer rooms day in a day out. it's like and then the January hey let's have a fast you know to commemorate our 40 years no

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in. He has, he's never done this before. He's calling the whole world, Christian organizations around the world, literally millions of people to participate in a 21-day prayer and fasting. for Israel. It's a very big deal, and I thought I want my audience to hear this conversation. So even though I did it on Ken Fish's podcast, we're airing it today for you. I want to thank my friend Ken fish for sucking me into this maelstrom, because this is obviously important. Look, I mean, just to sum up, because, you know, I let's let's sum up here. Let's sum up here.

Good. Israel is in a gigantic crisis on two fronts, internally and externally. This is new. Israel has weathered a lot of storms, but we're talking about right now is that within Israel, the woke forces, the globalist antichrist forces, since we don't have time. And I can't say it any more, any more completely than that. that. So let's just sum up that the woke, loony, antichrist

forces within Israel are trying to destroy Israel. We have Netanyahu and others trying to fight against that. It has come to a head. It hasn't come to ahead in the United States. We're still in the middle, we're still

you know, but it's not like it's come to some pinch point, some trigger point, but it has in Israel and that's clear. And you didn't know that 40 years ago. And you didn't know that a few months ago. know four weeks ago. I found out four weeks ago. Right. You didn't know that. Also, we know from without Iran is on the verge of getting what Obama and AOC have finally hoped Iran could get something to murder Jews. Isn't that sweet? Probably it may. They'll have a nuclear weapon the first time in history. They'll have it in May, probably or June at the latest.

Right. And so everybody who voted for Obama and who hates Trump, you're part of this, folks. You can repent or you can just ride this to hell because this is as evil as it gets, wiping out Israel. And so now in history, here we are. Here we are. It's happening. So this is all happening. So if you don't know anything but that, that gives you a reason to want to fast and pray for Israel. So the website is Isaiah 6.2, Isaiah 62 fast.com.

Isaiah 62 fast.com. This is a 21-day fast May 7th to May 28th. Pray one hour a day for 21 days. What we're asking? So, well, people can find out everything at Isaiah 62 fast.com. But Mike, this is undeniably dramatic and important. No matter how you slice it, if people just got 20% of what we've been talking about. This is news. Most of us, myself included, we're not really aware of any of this stuff. You weren't aware of it four weeks ago. You weren't aware of it a few months ago when you're looking at this 40 year anniversary of what happened in May 19. So it's kind of complicated and we ask people to have patience to try to, because it is complicated, but it's undeniably important. I think

for now probably we ought to just say enough. Let's put a pin in it and continue this conversation another time because we have time between now and May 7th and we have time to talk about this. But I wanted and I want to thank you, Ken, for helping me to see the opportunity to get the word out that we have to pray for Israel and God has orchestrated. this. He orchestrated it 40 years ago. He's been orchestrating it recently, May 7th and May 28th. The website is Isaiah62Fast.com. Unless either of you feels an urgency to share something briefly, I would say. I do 30 seconds. Go ahead. You and your friend down there, Ken, with Francis Chan and Andy Bird, Chris Reed. We were all together in Kansas City for two weeks. together and it struck us how significant your book on Bonhofer was and you said I thought

it made this and this and we talked about it in depth it is an eschatological statement from heaven the Bonhofer book and I remember you were going I didn't grasp it and I want to say for such a time as this that book is critical it's not just a history book that moves you it's well written I'm not trying to flatter you but it really is well written even though you went to Yale and all that. I didn't get my talent at Yale in case you're wondering. I got my talent from my parents passed down through DNA, but thank you. But that's an escata.

I mean, that's crazy. That's a big word. A prophetic declaration from heaven, that book and the courage of Bonhofer, I highly recommend people to read it. We went through it all, a whole bunch of us. Stick, but it was worth it. Well, I want to tell you, I'll reiterate, there is no doubt in my mind today that God called,

me to write that book for his prophetic purposes. I had no idea. This is, I cannot, people never believe you, but I'm just telling you, I just like you said, I had no idea about, you know, this stuff. We plan all that. I just fast. This fast took me by surprise like your book took you by surprise. When you do something and then only later you look back and you go, oh, I guess God really is sovereign. I guess God really does stuff and he kind of plants these, these seeds. I had zero clue. When I was writing that book, it was one of the most difficult, unpleasant experiences of my life. It was incredible, incredibly stressful.

But I see now why God called me to write the book on Bonhoeffer. A million copies were sold. A million. That's ridiculous in the natural. I can't tell you how many boats I bought with that money. Just yesterday morning, they let me know you were gone. Folks, what you're listening to today is my conversation with my friends Ken Fish and Mike Bickle about a lot of amazing stuff. We recorded it on Ken Fish's podcast, but I said it's so important.

I want my audience to hear it. You're my audience, and I want you to hear it. And you have been hearing it, and I hope you will continue to hear it because it's fascinating. It made it possible for us to just to survive. because, you know, trying to be a writer and stuff. But it, it, I mean, I wrote the book in 2008, and I didn't have any idea ever when I was writing it that we would be here now all these years later.

So, so thank you for saying that. I do think God clearly called me to write that book for such a time as this. And my new book, which is called Letter to the American Church, is kind of like the, okay, here's where we are now. What about the American Church? Where is the American Church? A great book. and how about the book, if you can keep it?

Not so bad of a book. I didn't, I didn't mean to end by plugging my books. That's really kind of you. But I just think that the larger point is none of us is doing stuff just to do stuff. This is not about our careers. This is about what God has ordained and called into being. And there's some people that are Christians, they don't really get this. And I'm here to say, folks, you need to get it because it's true, not because it's my point

of you or something. These things are really dramatic. And if you connect any of the dots, you can't help it at least be a little shocked, a little pushback. You think it doesn't seem like a coincidence. So anyway, I just think that we're seeing the fulfillment of some prophecies. We're seeing something. The bottom line is it's important to get this message out.

So I want to tell people again, Isaiah 62 fast. Send this video to anyone you can because there are lots and lots of people that they don't have the beginning of a clue of 95% of what we just talked about. And it's very important that those who can get a clue, those who have ears to hear would hear these things. Ken, if there's anything you want to add, otherwise I'm just going to. Yeah, I'll just make one kind of closing remark here. Obviously, a lot of these are things that could be polarizing, depending on. where you stand in the political spectrum. I think the safety and security of a nation,

look at how people have gotten stirred up over Ukraine. The safety and security of a nation, the avoidance of whole-scale war, which could escalate beyond just one single bomb, the integrity of a process, a government, these are all things that should be on the hearts of Christians because if nothing else, the Bible says that we should pray for all those in authority that we may leave, lead quiet and peaceable lives.

Well, we are doing this to stand in the gap. That's literally what intercession is. We are doing this to stand in the gap on behalf of our Jewish brothers and sisters who are not only under threat right now, but who have been under threat severely in the 20th century. and in other times in the past. So set your politics aside, regardless of whether you think good, bad, or otherwise about Israel. Many of you probably do think positively, but I'm intelligent enough to know that there are people who may not fully buy in, but just for the sake of lives saved, for the sake of safety, for the sake of people being able to live quiet and peaceable lives.

join us in this fast because it really is an eschatological thing that we are witnessing unfold whether or not it's being displayed on CNN or comparable networks. This is your opportunity to join us. This is your opportunity to do something significant to stand on the wall for others. That's why you should care about what we've shared today. Well, we've got to- I love you, Ken Fish. I love both you guys, and I'm just grateful that we're able to,

to kind of begin the conversation. We need to talk more about this, but this will at least peak people's interest. Folks, you ought, you owe it to yourself to find out more about who Mike Bickle is, what IHOP is. IHOP is, IHOP obviously, is International House of Prayer. You need to find out about what happened in May of 1983. Educate yourself, if you want. I just think it's endlessly fascinating. but at least go to Isaiah 62 fast.com, Isaiah62fast.com. Guys, I'm going to say goodbye, but this has been, as I say, very rich, very important. I want to say, praise the Lord that we got to do this.

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Why are we interrupting, Alvin, why? Why do we do? I know why. What is what we want to say in both hours today, we've been talking to Mike Bickle and Ken Fish. We hope you enjoy the conversation. It's actually, it's just some amazing stuff, frankly. I don't know how people don't believe in the miraculous when you hear Mike Bickle tell the story. And he's only telling you that just a few examples of this amazing, miraculous stuff.

We want to remind people that you've got. got to support the team. What do we mean by that? When a good film comes out, go see it. Nefarious is out there. It's a great film. It's an important film. It's theologically correct.

It's very amazing that they were able to pull this off. Steve Dase is the guy behind it. He's somebody that we love. But Nefarious is a great film. They rated it R to keep people away. It does not deserve an R rating. Both of us saw it. No way.

The way does it deserve an R rating? Yeah. It's really exciting film. Any actors are superb. The guy that plays the guy in prison who's going to be going to the electric chair. Oh, my goodness. He's incredible. Yeah.

Yeah. But it's theoretically brilliant. I mean, it talks about, it shows you the reality of the demonic. Anyway, please go see Nefarious. There's other films out there. Jesus Revolution. Oh, my gosh. Folks, come on.

oh, I hope if you haven't seen that, you've got to see Jesus Revolution. And we've talked a few times about the film Mr. Jones. Now, the film Mr. Jones, some people wrote it doesn't, oh, you didn't tell us that there's like sexual stuff in nudity and what it. It's like, yeah, it's a dark film, but it's a good film. But yeah, this is not a film that, you know, for young people. But it shows the reality of evil. Yeah, and yeah, it shows the reality of evil then.

and even what's going on now because the complicity of the New York Times, what's going on with Russia, what's going on with the Ukraine. That happened 90 years ago in this film in the early 1930s, and there's some similarities going on with what's happening today. It is actually amazing how history covers this stuff up, how the New York Times, I mean, if you see the film Mr. Jones, and by the way, it is a brilliant film made by Ineska Holland, and not a Christian. This is not, you know, some conservative or Christian. This is just a woman who

bravely understands the evil of communism, the evil of Stalin, and then the complicity of the New York Times. It is really evil. I just want to be really clear what the New York Times has done over the years and never really faced that they promoted evil and the Ukrainian family. Anyway, Mr. Jones is just incredibly powerful. It's hard to watch, but it's one of those few films that I would, I would say you should watch it, you know, with a warning for nudity, foul language, and cannibalism. Okay, so, Albin, I don't want to forget. He's just mentioned holyland.israel.travel. Holyland.israel.travel is the website.

It's a gorgeous website. Holyland.israel. Dot travel. I bring it up just because we want to recommend that you visit the Holy Land, which is called Israel, and you travel there. Hence, holyland. Israel. Travel. I am probably going twice next year to the Holy Land to Israel to Israel. I'm going to travel there. Holyland.israel.com. But I think it's one of the easy ways that we can get in touch

with our faith on a new level that you make your faith more real and you start understanding what it's all about. So I am thrilled. I want to film, we are going to film a documentary TV series based on my book is atheism dead and part of that of course will involve traveling to the archaeological sites that are there uh so we'll just we'll just leave it at that so uh please uh continue to enjoy the show and thank you and have a great weekend folks