The Eric Metaxas Show - Ken Fish - Part 5 (Encore)

Episode Date: April 17, 2020

Ken Fish wraps up the week with powerful, miraculous stories about healing from all kinds of physical problems; also, an explanation of the origin of the word "Gospel." (Encore Presentation)

Ladies and gentlemen, in honor of his own birthday today, your host Eric Mataxis, has said he's going to do his radio show in his birthday suit. Hey, don't say I didn't warn you. Get ready to cover your eyes and turn down the volume. Here's Mr. Godiva himself, Eric Mataxis. Oh, no, turn away, turn away. Oh, oh. Should I respond? I don't know.

Hey, folks, I get to talk to a friend of mine named Ken Fitzgerald. And you get to listen to our conversation. Ken, welcome back. We've had you here many times. I love talking to you. There's always something exciting to talk about. I was last night with you at a meeting in New Jersey, and I saw people get healed. Now, I was sitting there thinking, is this real?

There's nothing here, as I'm watching these people, that, you know, could possibly be fake and I thought I'm watching miracles happen and so many people don't believe in miracles and it just it kind of drives me mad you live in this realm you pray for people and see healing all the time so anytime you come to New York I want to I want to talk to you about it but I want to talk about last night I want to talk about the future this weekend let's start here tell us what you're doing this weekend in New York this weekend in New York this weekend in New York I'm with an organization called Christian Union, and they have me in usually a couple times a year, and we'll be doing a conference specifically on the subject of the power of God.

And where will this be? It's in Midtown, and I don't remember the exact address, but it's not open admission. You have to contact Christian Union if you want to come. Okay, so there are people listening now. Today's Thursday. Okay, so this is tomorrow, Friday, Saturday, and that's it. If you want to come to any of your part of this, you have to email info at Christianunion.org. That's info at Christianunion.org.

If I were in New York, I would be there, and I'm frustrated. I can't be there. Yes, I'm going to be in Houston. Yes, I'm going to be in Houston. But you're not going to be in Houston. No, I'm not going to be in Houston. No, I'm preaching in Houston this weekend. In fact, people want to know about that.

You go to my website, Ericmetaxis.com. But I guess I want to talk about what I heard last. night. You, first of all, I saw some healings. I want to talk about that, but you often do a teaching before you start praying for people. And last night, I didn't know what you were going to teach on, and you taught on the kingdom of God. Talk about that a little bit. Well, the kingdom is central to everything we do. That's why my organization is called Kingdom Fire Ministries. I've had a lot of people say, you know, sounds sort of dorky with a name like that, but I really wanted to have the kingdom be central to even the naming of what we do. So the kingdom of God is actually a concept that I call it the

golden thread. It runs through the entire of the Old Testament and right into the New Testament, and it ties together the entire Bible. And in a sound bite or two, it really is about the rulership of God and the exertion of his authority, which I sometimes call the active dynamic power of God, but the exertion of his authority in the world. And so when the kingdom of God is proclaimed, we're really in a word saying, God is king, but it's not just a slogan.

There's actually a spiritual power that comes with that, and it releases something so that healings, deliverances, prophecy, other things can happen. Well, I've never heard it laid out the way you laid it out yesterday. It's not like there was anything particularly new in the general concept, but you laid it out really well.

But what was new to me, and I'm always amazed if I haven't heard something before because I've heard zillions of sermons, you talked about how the term the gospel, the proclamation of the gospel, we say the good news, was ultimately seen, or was rather in those days, seen as dramatically different from how we hear it today. You said it was kind of a military announcement that there's a new king on the throne. and now he's going to go out and tell everybody, hey, I'm the new boss in town, I'm the king, and you're under my rulership. I've never heard it put that way before. Well, this word gospel, it comes from Roman military history.

If we go back into the archives of Roman history, we can find numerous emperors who issued gospel proclamations upon their coronation. Among the most well-known, Hadrian, as in Hadrian's wall, Trajan and Varus Julius Maximus, all of them had gospel proclamations upon their coronation. Okay, so to be clear, though, when we say the word gospel, it means good news, right? It means good news because there is a new king, and in their context it meant, and I'm the king. I'm the dude. Right. So the good news is that I'm the king.

Right. But when we think of the good news of the gospel, we're thinking of the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ, which is an entirely different kind of proclamation, different kind of good news, actually news that is genuinely good as opposed to subjectively good. Right. But the point I was making last night, and I've made it elsewhere where I've taught on this, is that when Jesus makes a gospel proclamation, and we see it, for example, in Mark 1, verse 15, repent and believe in the gospel or in the good news, what Jesus is doing is he's saying, you're used to hearing about earthly men saying, I am the king of kings, and I am saying,

I am the one true king of kings. Over time, I mean, we've had 20 centuries of Christianity. It's a long time. Over time, this understanding of gospel has become softened and it's morphed, if you will, to where now when we hear gospel, we think of, I don't know, a gospel tent, the sawdust trail, we think of a Billy Graham crusade, we think of a men's retreat, we think of a woman's luncheon, we think of, you know, the church retreat, whatever we think of, but we've got all this stuff that's, you know, It's become sanitary and nice and quaint, but gospel actually, I think of the best functional equivalent of the term, is invasion.

The invasion has been launched because a new king has been crowned, and he is going to subjugate everything that is in rebellion against him. And most particularly what Jesus comes to subjugate is the rule of Satan. Do we know what the Latin term would have been for gospel? Because that's where I get confused. I know gospel is kind of an old English term. I can't think of the word right now, so I'll pass on that rather than potentially give bad information. The Greek word we all use is Eungelion, which means something like good announcement or great proclamation or something like that. Right, and that makes sense to me.

So I guess I'm kind of suddenly wondering, like, what would the Romans have called it? But, yeah, so the good news, when we talk about the good news as Christians, we're talking about the good news of Jesus. but I had never heard that Jesus is kind of, you know, doing a spin on this whole, a whole new version of what everybody understood. I can't imagine that I'd never heard a sermon on this until literally last night. So I was really fascinated by that. And then he said something else, which I also had never heard, that the word Messiah, Mosheyeh means to be like smeared with the oil, the anointed oil.

That's right. I'd never heard that either. I mean, I was kind of amazed. The Hebrew word is mashah, and they would have, in our, the way we kind of butcher words to make them fit English convention, any new king, any new high priest would have been mashad with the anointing oil. And so he is ha mashia. So he is the, ha is the Hebrew word for the. He is the anointed one, not anointed one, but the anointed one. And that's why we call him Yeshua, Hamashiyah. Hamashiyah. And of course, the anointed one in Greek is Christos, the Christos, the one who is anointed. And we get the word christening and all that kind of stuff. But I just love knowing the roots of words and where that stuff comes from. But the talk you gave last night, is that available? Have you done that before? Or is that going to be able to? You've done that.

That's available on my website under the title. The Kingdom of God is a message of hope. All right. So I don't even have to like go fishing. There it is. Yeah, that's it. Kingdom Fire Ministries.com. And everybody who's listening should go and buy it. The kingdom of God is a message of hope, kingdomfire ministries.org. Well, to my mind, it was paradigm shifting for me because I was just stunned that I have not heard this before. I was just sitting there thinking, how can I've heard so many sermons and I've never heard that the gospel was this kind of a thing, that the emperors would do this?

So Jesus is coming in specifically to this context and saying, okay, now you're going to get the really good news of a real king of kings, and it's a whole other thing. And you also explained that that was why when he's saying this, people were kind of expecting him to overthrow the Roman yoke. I mean, that kind of makes sense. Yeah, that's right. But the other thing that's interesting about this term gospel is, you know, it was announced as a good news proclamation, but it was only good news if you were a citizen of the realm. If you were a Roman, if you weren't a Roman, you were about to be crushed because you wouldn't submit to Rome. Okay.

Speaking of crushed, we've got to go to a commercial break. We'll be right back with more. Ken Fish. on the Eric Mataxis show. That's Kansas. I'm Eric Mataxis, and I'm talking to my friend, Ken Fish. We're talking about last night in New Jersey, you gave a talk on the Kingdom of God. You said the talk is available at your website, kingdomfire ministries.org.

And what's the title? The Kingdom of God is a message of hope. It has a red cover. Yeah. It was a big thing for me to hear this, and I was just thrilled to kind of get some new teaching that gave me a whole different angle on things. You were saying that when a king, meaning like a Caesar, an emperor is making this proclamation, right.

An emperor is obviously a king of kings. He's over an empire, not just a kingdom. And it would be kind of good news theoretically for all the Roman citizens, theoretically. But for all those who weren't Roman citizens, this is like, it's kind of like there's a new sheriff in town. You're in trouble. Be careful. You're in trouble. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think, you know, somebody might potentially misunderstand if they have the wrong conception of God. But, you know, the idea here is if you were a Roman. citizen, a citizen of the realm, then this gospel proclamation ultimately meant that wealth and riches and, you know, good things would flow to you because you were living under the benevolence of the King of Kings. And just so, for those who are citizens of the kingdom, as we say, citizens of God's kingdom, because Jesus came as the King of Kings, the true and proper King of Kings, there is benefit and blessing that flows to us. And that looks like the thing that's

that Jesus did. So everything he did was a demonstration of his own proclamation of gospel. So he healed the sick because he was a healing king. He drove out demons because he was a delivering king. He freed those who were oppressed or who had mental problems or emotional problems because he was that kind of a king. Even those that were hungry, he fed them because he was a king who cared for his subjects. And so we have in this really, it is the theologizing in a few words, although they're compressed words that need to be unpacked in our time. As soon as Jesus stood up, and said, I have come to declare gospel. They immediately understood he's calling himself a king.

He's saying there's a new kingdom. And the Romans got this. This is why when he's on trial before Pilate, he says, my kingdom is not of this world. You have no idea. I have no interest in all of these earthly kingdoms. What I have come to do is to liberate the people of God who have been living under oppression. Well, as I say, this is a new meta-narrative for me. I mean, to hear this, suddenly a lot of things make sense.

And I'm a standard. I've heard bits and pieces, but the way you framed it last night was really, really important. I think, did you want to talk about the something about the crushing or the smearing? There was something you were going to say. Oh, yeah. So what I was starting to say is when a gospel proclamation would be made by an emperor, the idea was, if you weren't already submitted to Rome, you were going to be crushed by the Roman army. And so with this, Jesus makes the gospel proclamation.

And what he's saying is, I have come to crush the kingdom of Satan. And even Paul the Apostle picks this up in one of his letters. He's closing down the letter and he says, the God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet, right? So the idea of this is the son of God. There's an old English hymn. No one sings it anymore. I think it would rile our modern sensibilities,

but it was called the Son of God goes forth armed for war. Well, he goes forth armed for war because he intends to destroy Satan and the works of Satan. And, you know, I've heard a lot of sermons on this, and I think if we wanted to categorize it, we'd say he comes to make war on demons, disease, and death. And so with that, there's a kind of liberation, there's a kind of freedom that is very tangible that comes to the people of God. And so what I was really doing last night was I was explaining that if we want to talk about healing, we first have to understand the context of healing because we have a healing king, and he comes to make war on Satan.

What's one of the primary ways that Satan oppresses the world? People get sick. They get disease. They're crippled. there and so on, right? And so once we proclaim gospel, as Jesus did, then we should expect that Jesus will confirm the word with signs following. And in fact, as you were sitting there, you saw people being healed right in front of your eyes. Well, I want to talk about that because that never fails to astound me. I, you know, I've heard a lot of teaching on these kinds of things and whatever, but what I haven't seen is that, you know, praying for the sick and what. That's the thing that I'm so hungry for. And last night, you began by, I've seen you do this couple times where you have

what's called a word of knowledge, right? A Rima word of knowledge where while you are praying or trying to be sensitive to God, God says something to you about someone in this audience or congregation. And we've all seen the fake version of this, right? That, you know, you look at all these movies where faith healers are portrayed as frauds, you know, and they've got somebody's putting something in their ear, you know, some information and stuff. But you're obviously the real thing. You're out there. And you say, I'm getting that somebody, you know, kind of in this part of the room, has an issue with his left arm and the back.

And you describe it very specifically. Now, let me just ask you, is there a way for you? There may be no way. but to describe what it's like to hear from God in that way. What is it? Are you getting impressions? How are you getting that? There's multiple ways it can happen.

I'm trying to remember how that specific word came to me last night. But there's kind of a range of ways that it comes. Sometimes it's an impression. You may or may not have confidence in that, but sometimes I'll actually see a vision. And if I see the vision, It can be as clear and distinct as you are or I am to you, or it can be more kind of translucent where I can see the outline of it, but I don't actually see it solid. You know, you can see through it, if you will.

Okay, so last night, now I want to be clear, too, because all these things matter. If you're talking to a room of 10,000 people and you say somebody's got neck problems, you know there's a ton of people there that can have neck problems or whatever. But what you did, first of all, it was a very small crowd. It was basically a private event. So there weren't that many people in the room at all. And then you described something very specific. It wasn't just like arm problems or something. And then the question is, is this real?

Is this going to apply to anybody? Is anybody going to raise their hand and say, yep, that's me? And sure enough, the pastor of the church, Jason, raises his hand. A lot of us laughed. Like what? You know, this is like you're kidding. And he gets up and tells you about his arm and the history and something. And it was really exactly like you had described it. So that alone, you know, notice I'm trying to give people a kind of an idea of how this works, right? Because people say, how is it that you pray and people get healed? I would actually say, and I don't think you said this last night, but that when God gives you a word, it's his way already of saying, I'm about to do a healing for this thing. That's correct. He's really seeking to prompt faith and cause the person to respond. Yeah, that's mine. I want that. I'm grabbing it. And so, sure enough, he gets up and you pray, and it takes a little time and stuff, and I'm very impatient. And so it always cracks me up that we all want, like, you know, lightning bolts and stuff. But you pray, and he gets like this incremental difference, and then you keep praying, and it gets better. And then he says that he feels heat and all this kind of stuff.

I'm just fascinated with the mechanics of this. You were saying last night this is something that happens a lot when you pray for people. Yeah, it is. The heat is very common. Sensation you might call it electricity or some people would say, you know, if you've ever been in a jacuzzi and you kind of put your hand on top of the water as the bubbles are coming up, that kind of feeling of the bubbles rising, it can feel like that in the body or in my hand. So there are different sensations that come.

I mean, they're subjective on the one hand, but after a while you recognize. recognize them and they happen often enough. You go, oh, okay, I know what's going on here. But in Jason's case, it was almost like, you know, we're coming off of a cold room, if you want to say it that way. I mean, I don't know how many people there were really involved in healing, you know, believed in healing. I know at one point in the past, they'd had a healing service there. And your friend, my friend, Rich, told me later in the evening that no one had gotten healed in that service. So maybe people were a little bit, you know, kind of like that. what it did by having Jason be the guy. And I mean, the Lord knows what he's doing, is it kind of broke the faith in the room open. Yeah, this is Tower Hill Church in Red Bank, New Jersey, wonderful church. I went there for, I guess it was Easter Service with Suzanne. And it was just wonderful, really, really wonderful. But you don't get the impression that they're kind of moving in this sort of stuff.

So even the fact that they were willing to have an event like this, I was impressed. But so when he got up there, it was just kind of wild because he was surprised, you're surprised, everybody's surprised. and then you start praying for him, and we could see the mobility in his arm every time you pray change. By the time it was over, it was a different story. Now, unless he's a fraud, I know the guy, Rich knows. This is not a fraud. This guy's not a fraud. He's a wonderful man.

Usually the pastor of the church isn't a shill. Yeah. I mean, especially in a church like that, like he's not about to do something like that. But it's just so funny that God moves that way. and then you kind of turn him over to your team who continue to pray for him, so I don't know where that ended up. It ended well. Not only did his shoulder get even more improvement, but one of the team members had a bunch of prophetic words over him that really ministered to his internal life, things he'd been carrying around, not divulged to anyone, as we like to say, she read his mail.

I mean, that's such a blessing. That is one of the most beautiful things. that the prophetic ministry can do, it helps us know that we are known by God. God is with us and he sees the pain we're going through. It's just wonderful. We're going to be right back. We're talking to Ken Fish, kingdomfire ministries.org is the website. If you want to go to the thing this weekend in New York, go to info at Christianunion.org.

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It was just wonderful. But tell us what happened next. So he's turned over to your team, and they're praying for him. And he really got healed. I mean, again, I'm sitting here thinking, wow, like this is crazy stuff. And his shoulder had been, well, it was up underneath his shoulder blade, but it was affecting all of his mobility. I mean, he couldn't really lift it this way.

Yeah. He couldn't do anything this way. And, you know, he was doing fine. Yeah. And he was lifting his arm at the end. But it was kind of. deep underneath the shoulder blade. And he, yeah, so I turned him over to the team.

And, you know, I'd had a second word that I'd given right at the front of the ministry time. Okay. Yeah, this was before you did that, you kind of threw something out there, got no response. What was that? It was for, I knew approximately where in the room it was, but I didn't know exactly. And it was somebody who had a problem with their tongue, and it was on the left side of the tongue, back near the taste buds. And so I called that word out, and no one responded.

So we just went with Jason. Now, okay, why does this happen? Like, I've seen this before. Like, you say something really specifically. Nobody raises their hand. Nobody gets up. Deer caught in headlights, right? And then later on, they get up.

I don't want to stand in front of a room. I don't want to be seen in public. I mean, it's all of that. The funniest example of this was when I first met you were at some meeting. It was like really early on. maybe three years ago. I remember you looked at a, at a row of women. There was like four or five women, and you point right at them.

And you go, somebody right here has some respiratory issues. Somebody right. I know it's one of you. It's you or you. It has respiratory issues. Nobody responds. Nobody responds. And then like 10 minutes later, one of them says, well, I have asthma.

And I remember, like, I laughed out loud. Like, yeah, that's a respiratory. issue, so please come on down and get your healing. But it just cracks me up because nobody moves, nobody responds. And so last night you give this very specific word. You're saying, God is saying that there's a thing with the tongue. And you know, it takes something. And it was an odd word. I mean, that's not like an everyday kind of word. Yeah, it's not like hearing problems or it's not like. And but it just cracks me with that people don't budge. It's like, nope, I'm just going to sit here. And then later on, this woman got got up. And so tell us about that one. Well, so as I handed Pastor Jason

off to the team to continue praying for him, I said, I'm sorry, I just have to ask again. Actually, I think I was still had my hand on Jason, and I was about to hand him off. And I said, I'm sorry, this keeps coming to me. I have to ask again, is there somebody with this tongue condition? And then this woman got up and came forward. And she'd had some kind of long-term problem in her jaw and her teeth. And she said it was everybody's dental nightmare. She'd done three years of endodonic surgery.

and, you know, it was in the bone, it was in the root canal, it was top and bottom, and everything was a mess over here. And with that, she was having a problem with her tongue because she was always tasting metallic taste. Well, and it was, she said it was extremely sore. Yes, extremely sore. And this is in the left side of the tongue all the way toward the back of the tongue. So you start praying for, and this is another one of these things that I even said to Suzanne, I was like, I'm cracking up. Because you said to the woman, so if the pain level starts, out as a 10, let's give it a 10, you know, whatever it is now, let's call it 10. By the time you're done,

like, what kind of a number would it be now? And she says, like a one or a two. Yeah. And I thought, what? Like, that's amazing. Yeah. I mean, that is absolutely amazing, but the woman was very kind of quiet about it. I just thought, how come you not jumping up and down? Like, that's just amazing. Well, and then you might remember, I said, does anyone have some gum? Because, you know, chewing was an issue for her, and she was, you know, biting down on it. and comparing it to the other side. And she actually told us that she couldn't really eat on that side, a lot of applesauce, a lot of this, a lot of that.

And you're like, wow, this is serious. Right. So one of the people on my team had some gum. So I handed her a couple, you know, little pieces of like, you know, gumlets or squares of gum. And she started chewing it. And she's up there. I mean, no pain.

It's all good. It was unbelievable. And again, it's all very matter of fact. That's another thing that I find funny. like you just think, okay, so people are being miraculously healed and, you know, nobody's like freaking out, but it's a miracle. Yeah. It's a miracle.

And, well, anyway, I don't want to go through the whole evening, but you, there was something else you were sharing. But, you know, I want to say this. It has seemed to me of late, like we've been on a role with dental conditions because I've had a number of meetings in the last two months where, whether it's TMJ or, you know, teeth that are rotted out or, you know, like her with all this surgery that she's had. and I don't even know how to explain it, to be honest, but anyway, we pray, and it all is fine after that. And if it's people who have dislocated jaws or TMJ and stuff like that, in one case, I prayed for a guy in Australia, and his jaw kind of went, pooh, like that.

And he was like, yeah, that's good now. And what is TMJ? It transmandipular jaw, and it's, your jaw is, you know, out of alignment, and it's very painful. and usually the way they fix it is they go in, they either cut the bones or they'll surgically break the jaw and then wire it shut and let it reset. And so, you know, for six weeks or more, you're drinking through a straw while your mouth is wired shut. I mean, it's horrible. And, you know, people have all kinds of headaches from it. And it's a serious problem.

I mean, unbelievable. I still, I just can't get over all this. This is, it's happening. Now, the whole idea that you see these trance. This kind of, to me, is funny because what it really speaks to is your authenticity and honesty, because you're reporting on stuff that makes no sense. In other words, when you say, God is kind of in the business of doing a lot of this jaw, teeth stuff, that doesn't make any sense. Like, we have no explanation for why that would be. In fact, it sounds kooky, and people might laugh.

And like, oh, so your God is like, he's a trend god, right? Like, now he's into gold dust. Now he's into healing it. We're going to be right back with Ken Fish. Stick around. The Arkansas Yorkman-Taxis show. And we're talking about God is not a trendy God, and yet you observe. Kind of like a scientist.

You see stuff happening. You're not sure why. But you see these trends that happen. Talk about that. Well, I've said for a long time, and people often don't really catch what I'm saying. But I've said for a long time when I'm teaching, if we can get the first healing of whatever type it is, the next 5,000 will be easy. And it just seems to be a dynamic in the realm of the spirit that, you know, when we get our first healing of whatever sort, there's something,

I don't know if it's our faith is prompted, or maybe it's like we've breached some sort of a barrier, like you don't think of almost like a membrane or something, and we, you know, we breached through it. Right. But once that's happened, then it becomes increment, well, actually, not incrementally, exponentially easier to see that happen again and again and again and again. And I think there's reason to believe that Jesus himself had something like this going on, because in John 520, he says, greater works than I am doing now, I will do in the days to come or hours to come, in order that you may marvel. And he says, I only do what the father shows me to do immediately preceding that.

So what he's really saying is, I can't do anything other than what God shows me, but he's going to show me even greater things and he's already shown me. And when he shows me greater things, I'm going to do greater things. And when I do greater things, you are going to be gobsmacked. You're going to be blown away by what you're seeing. And so I think Jesus himself was declaring to his disciples, I'm expecting to see a rising tide. I'm expecting increase. And it's been my experience as I've done this over the years that, you know,

there are areas where maybe last year we didn't see so much breakthrough or five years ago we didn't see much breakthrough. But then we get the first one, and after that, it's like, it's just the dam has been burst. And all of a sudden now we start seeing clusters of that. And everywhere we go, people are getting healed of whatever that particular condition is. Well, what I find interesting about this, I say it's like science, because you're dealing in a realm where you can't quite see what is happening. I mean, you know, it's like dealing with atoms or molecules before you can see them, but you can observe their effects. And you begin to theorize.

You begin to try to figure out what is. going on here what are the patterns we've seen what things never happen and then you know you're tempted I guess in the way that maybe Freud was tempted to try to make a model of the way Freud did he makes a model of the soul right he talks about the super ego and the ego and a lot of that stuff I think he got flat out wrong but the point is when you're operating in something that is not visible you're nonetheless tempted to try to make some sense of it. That's right. And that's exactly what happens with miracles. In other words, that if you read through the literature and you read over and over and over all these different kinds of miracles,

you do see patterns. It's just fascinating to me. But people tend not to treat it the way you would treat science. And so it becomes all anecdotal and nobody's really gathering this stuff to try to figure it out. I'd love to see that happen. I know Craig Keener wrote that huge two-volume work on miracles. And I know that you're talking to some doctors about trying to get some because it really would be wonderful if we could begin to understand this better than we do now. Yeah. Well, one of the things that I'm theoretically doing, although I'm behind, is I'm writing a manuscript of a book that's called an integrated guide to healing and deliverance. And in it, I'm going to talk about the fact that, you know, when we think about any condition on earth,

we could just, we could talk about jaw conditions or, you know, arm conditions or whatever. It could be organic. It might be kidney failure, but whatever. When we talk about any condition on earth. From what I've seen, we'll call it the A case, the B case, and the C case. And the A case is the most common. The B case is second and C would be the third most common. And then we get kind of a string of one-offs that don't really fit A, B, or C. But within those, we see patterns of, okay, this person has a kidney condition. And as I interview them and I talk to them, I hear about, okay, they have this, this, this, and this one's a case A. And the way I like to describe it is. And these numbers aren't exact, but they're, they're approximate. About 70% of the time

whatever our condition is, in this example, a kidney thing, 70% of the time, case A explains why it's there. And so we pray into that and we see healing. Maybe 20% of the time we're in a case B and say 5% of the time we're in a case C. Then we got the trailer of dogs and cats that are the singles. But if you can understand the A, B, and C case, you can at least covered 95% of the waterfront most of the time. And so with that, that's, you know, I've learned this over time. I've prayed for, you know, tens of thousands of people, but I've learned to recognize these patterns. And so a lot of times when I'm talking to someone, I'm like, okay, which one is this? Okay, right, I know what to do now. Now, I'm not, I don't mean to sound cavalier and I don't want to

make it sound like it's automatic. Apart from the father, we can't do anything. Jesus said, if you don't remain in me and I and you, apart from me, you can do nothing. So this still requires the anointing, but it informs our praying so it's targeted, and that helps us see many, many, many more breakthroughs. Right. And of course, the dream would be to have armies of people with your knowledge doing this kind of stuff. Yeah, we're training. And there are, they're not a ton. And that's part of the frustration, I think. I mean, even last night to think that there's just you praying for all these people, and there's so many people that want to get healed. And Jesus gave us the Holy Spirit,

specifically so we could all do this so that we're not all looking to one person. And so I want to encourage people to attend your conferences and to go to your website, get your teaching, because wouldn't it be wonderful if many, many more people are able to do this? Go to kingdomfire ministries.org, and we'll be right back. Hey, folks, before we go, I want to remind you again, this is so important. If you believe in free speech, if you believe in American values, unfortunately, they're being underage. attack right now. And I got to tell you, No Safe Spaces is a film made by my friend Dennis Prager, specifically about free speech. And here is the irony. No Safe Spaces, which I have seen,

is a spectacular movie in every way. I hope you'll watch it with the young people in your life. I hope everyone in America would watch it. But here's the irony. The streaming services, Amazon Prime, and Netflix have banned No Safe Saves. spaces. This seems unbelievable. It's Kafkaesque, but it is true. I want to tell you, folks, if you needed a reason to see no safe spaces, it's just because they have banned it. So go to no safespaces.com. No safespaces.com. You can use a code save 25 to get 25% off. No safespaces.com. Save 25. Here, folks. A couple of minutes left with my friend Ken Fish. Ken, we cannot neglect to say that you're doing events all around the world. And if people want to find you,

they can go to kingdomfire ministries.org. I hope they will find you. And some of them learn to do some of this stuff. But at the end of October, you and I are going to be in Greece. Greece, yep, looking forward to that. In Athens, the church, I don't even remember the name of the church, but the pastor is Pazahuras. And Patsahuras, he's had Randy Clark there in the past. our friends that Camporuses have hosted Randy Clark. But you and I are going to be there in October. I just can't believe it. I'm so looking forward to it.

I'll probably spend some time in Greece this summer. But what a wonderful thing. Who knows what God is going to do in a place like Greece? Neither of us really speaks Greek. I certainly don't. Well, I speak a little Greek, but not. I can read ancient Greek, but that's it. Right, right, right.

But that's just kind of cool. and maybe we'll get to do some other fun stuff together while we're there just as friends. But there's so much need around the world. And I'm really excited to see kind of what happens and who's going to come. Where else are you going in the months ahead? Can you think of... Well, when I leave New York on Sunday, like a couple days from now, I'm flying down to Chile and I'm doing meetings in Santiago.

and I've had some of the most incredible meetings down there in the past. Last year was, as they say in Australia, completely off the chain. Off the chain. Yeah, off the chain. Calling people out, you know, giving them very detailed words, incredible impartations, very specific healings. I mean, it was really epic. So the faith level is high, and I'm looking forward to returning to Chile and seeing what the Lord will do. When I finish up in Chile, I'll come home and I'll only be home a couple days, and then I go back to Australia yet again.

And then when I get done with that, I'll be home in the U.S. for just about a week and a half, and then I'm off to Israel for about a month. Israel for a month. Wow. Now, are you doing meetings in Israel, just like you normally do? Yeah, I'll do some meetings. I'm taking a team with me, and we'll do some touring and, you know, see the sites. And then, you know, come October, I'm going to be in Scotland and Germany and Greece. So I forgot you're going to be in Germany. I know you're going to be in Scotland, and I guess I can't go to that one. But Germany, you're going to be in Frankfurt.

Near Frankfurt, yeah. Near Frankfurt, because I will also be in Germany. I haven't worked out the details yet, but I just think it would be so much fun to do stuff with you overseas. And, you know, I got to just say this. I am incredibly excited about what I see happening in Europe. I mean, people have said for years that Europe is some sort of a graveyard of churches, and, you know, there's no faith left in Europe and, you know, 1% of the people attend church, et cetera. But I am seeing amazing awakening.

I'm seeing people coming to faith. I'm seeing amazing healings, even in the hotbed of intellectualism in Europe. And I think the Lord's about to blow that continent open. Oh, man, wouldn't that be great? Well, it's the re-digging of the old wells that I always think about that, you know, this is the place where Christianity came out of, you know, for, practically millennia. And to think that it's become so secular, you know, it would be nice to see that change because, let's face it, so much hangs on the spiritual, everything hangs on the spiritual condition of a nation. Well, Ken, my friend, thank you. I want to tell people again,

kingdomfire ministries.org is the website. And if you're interested in the Christian Union event, that's this Friday, so what are we talking about? We're like June 28th, 29th, 30th, whatever. If you're interested in that, you have to go to info at Christianunion.org. Email them because, frankly, there may be no space. I suspect there's no space. But if you really want to go, maybe you can badger them and have some luck. Ken, thank you. Glad to be here.

Thanks, Eric.