The Eric Metaxas Show - Kenny Sacht

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

Kenny Sacht of Wipe Every Tear details how their ministry fights sex trafficking. More at: wipeeverytear.org ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of the Eric Mataxis show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you can protect your wealth with noble gold investments. That's noblegoldinvestments.com. Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready to listen to a man of grace, sophistication, integrity, and whimsy? Well, so are we. But until such a man shows up, please welcome. Eric Matt, Texas. Folks, welcome back. If you've listened to this program for some time, you may remember my next guest, Kenny Sacked,
Starting point is 00:00:53 who is the head of wipe every tier. wipeverytier.org is the website. I know about wipe every tier, this amazing ministry, because of Keith Junta. Keith, before we bring Kenny Sact on tell us about your experience with wipe every tear wipe every tear which is an organization based in the Philippines
Starting point is 00:01:19 where we rescue trafficked girls out of the bars we bring them into the kingdom of God where they are restored, redeemed, healed, disciples, educated, trained for work released into a whole new life. And I have to tell you, been over there a few times now with Kenny, it is life-changing. It is absolutely life-changing. And so Kenny is the founder. He's the director of Wipe Every Tier. He has become such a dear,
Starting point is 00:01:54 dear friend of mine. We're in touch all the time. And I could not be more thrilled for this upcoming discussion. And I pray that the Lord would awaken hearts across the nation. Well, I think anybody who listens can't fail to be touched. Kenny Sacked, welcome back. It's good to be back, Eric. Thank you. It's been a while. It's been a while.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Now, what should we talk about? I mean, first of all, I mean, you should just talk a little bit about the general work of wipe every tear because I know there's a lot of people tuning in that, you know, maybe didn't hear our last conversation. Yeah, I will. And you know what? I will surely do that because it's a great. story but but in addition to god is doing something in the earth eric and we are seeing it in the most in the darkest of places and we're seeing it in boisey idaho there is something there is revival in the air
Starting point is 00:02:55 and i'm excited and so you are in boisey idaho just to be clear i am right now yeah i travel frequently i'm i'm in the philippines a little over a third of my life i go back and forth i have a team that set up there in the Philippines and whatnot. But, you know, the way it started, Eric, I was a high school teacher and basketball coach here in Boise. And I'd always wanted to do a mission trip with the guys. And finally the administration said, let's do it. We ended up in the Philippines.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And in short, I saw the sex trade. And as a father of five lovely daughters and a son, my heart broke. and I raised my hand sheepishly and didn't say here I am God, send me. I just said like, God, I'll do anything. I'll do anything if I could set a girl free from the sex trade.
Starting point is 00:03:50 And I really said, God, if I could just do one girl, and one became many. And that's a short story right there, how we started. I just have to ask you a kind of a fundamental question that just popped into my head. I know almost nothing about the sex trade and that part of the world, except from what I've heard from Keith Junta, who is with us here and who's my very dear friend for many years, and what I've heard from you on the program, I'm really unaware of this world.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I think a lot of times I just avert my gaze from things that horrify me because I can't handle it. And my question is, what percentage of the... the so-called Johns, the people who spend money to defile young women, what percentage of them roughly do you think might be American? Oh gosh, there's a lot. I mean, we meet so many Americans in this city called Angela City. They're from all over the world. We see mostly Westerners, but we see, well, now there's a lot of Koreans coming from South Asia. But there's a lot, Eric. I don't know what that number is.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Maybe Keith, you know, being from a little more neutral position, would have an idea. But we see a lot. I would say 60 to 70 percent of the men you see walking the strip, they look like us. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's right, Keith. Okay. So let's say it's 50 percent Americans. So this is a supply and demand issue.
Starting point is 00:05:34 There are enough Americans, men, willing to get on a plane. This is mind-blowing, isn't it? Mind-blowing. Willing to get on a plane for this? Because this is, quote-unquote, legal in that part of the world. And they don't seem to think of this as sinful, as wrong on any level. I mean, you don't need to be a Christian to think that doing this is wrong. A lot of people just have the simple common sense to understand that.
Starting point is 00:06:09 But it's a fascinating concept that we live in a world where there are people with money willing to do this and thinking, hey, great, it's free. It's legal. It's not, I don't mean it's free legal, I mean financially free, but it's like there's a world where I can go do that. they get on planes and they do that. And so the reason I bring it up, Kenny, is obviously, if we have revival in America, fewer men would be free to get on planes and to defile these creatures made in the image of God. And that would help the situation. So at the heart of this, folks, is revival because you need laws, you need all kinds of stuff. But, But, boy, if people already know this is wrong and don't do it, that helps the problem.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And so that's part of why revival is the answer to everything, is that we need people to get to know Jesus and to look at their own hearts. But I just want to ask, Kenny, if you could say again, just describe the situation over the, how are the rules different, how are the laws different? What is the age of consent? When you and Keith go there and you see these young women, you refer to them, some of them as girls. I mean, how young are some of them? Yeah, well, you have to work in a bar, you have to be 18.
Starting point is 00:07:42 However, documents are forged and girls are much younger. So we see that all the time. And by the way, it looks when you go to Angeles City, the city of Angels, mind you, mind you. prostitution is illegal in the Philippines and there's a city I mean it's like it's like a mini-Vegas it's like you go and the lights are flashing and the door girls are out there
Starting point is 00:08:11 luring you in and it's illegal everyone's on the take you know you know we have the corruption in America right we talk about that you talk about that on your show you talk about all the stuff in in Congress and and whatnot
Starting point is 00:08:28 not guys it's nothing compared to the rest of the world where these girls are by the we're talking 12,000 girls 240 bars and they're all trapped and tricked because of poverty into the sex trade revival though is I you know we've come across people where where you have a moment with an American guy. And we've seen the Lord doing stuff in them. And, but you're right. In the men. Yes, in the men. Yeah. And revival changes the culture. And, you know, people often know, I want revival, want revival. So it's all warm and fuzzy. You know, that's part of revival. But revival changes a culture. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. You just made a great point. I want to quickly, because I really want us to focus on the girl.
Starting point is 00:09:26 and the journey of watching them get restored. But Eric, you just perked up when you heard the men. Yes, we are seeing revival in the men, in the users. We're seeing revival in the bars with the owners and the employees in the bars. And we have seen men get convicted by the Holy Spirit sitting in a bar, not wagging our finger at them, not shaming them into how could you, you do this? What if one of these girls was your daughter? That's not generally the way to get somebody into the kingdom. But as we simply tell them, hey, here's why we're here. We think these girls are
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Starting point is 00:12:10 Mypillow.com, use promo code Eric. 800-9783057-3057. promo code Eric. Welcome back, folks. Before we continue our conversation, I want to remind you of our friends at the Herzog Foundation, if you're interested in homeschooling, and you should be a home. Home schoolers are the future of this great nation. If you're interested in quality K-12, Christ-centered education,
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Starting point is 00:13:12 Education is a big part of that. Herzogg Foundation.com. Speaking to taking back the culture, I'm talking to Keith Junta and Kenny Sacked. The ministry is called Wipe Every Tier. And Kenny, you were just saying it that you say we want revival, we want revival. But to me and to you guys, you know that me. Reviable, I mean, I think for a lot of people, revival is all about salvation, salvation, salvation. Salvation is the starting line. It's not the finish line. It's the finish line of salvation. You know, it's like, okay, you're saved. Now you're saved. Great. But then what? Well, then what happens is if you know Jesus, then you want to make things right that have been wrong. And this is the kind of thing that happens. When Christians, when Christians, when when William Wilberforce became a Christian, he battled to end the slave trade in the British Empire.
Starting point is 00:14:12 When Jesus moves on your heart, you want to help people. You want to eliminate the corruption. That's what happens, and that's what's supposed to happen. And Bonhofer always talked about faith in action. So you get saved, and then stuff happens. And I'm sure that, you know, if you're a man who's been involved in this kind of filth, you might be, tapped by God to start turning it around, just as John Newton, who was a slave trader, the captain of a slave ship, becomes a Christian and eventually doesn't just end his affiliation with the slave trade, but becomes one of the loudest advocates for the abolition of the slave trade. So I think that's part of the joy right now is to think that that kind of thing could be happening all around the
Starting point is 00:15:05 world. Amen. You know, Eric, my favorite revival, really pretty, pretty modern is the Welsh revival. You know, 1904. And you know what? When I first heard it, it sounds like a good story. It's made up by good Christians, you know, whatever. But it's really true. It's really true that the culture shifted. You know, the police activity became almost nothing because the hearts of men and women were changed. The police, it's recorded in their dialogues. Excuse me, for context. When was the Welsh Revival, roughly? 1904.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Okay, so in Wales, 120 years ago, there's the famous Welsh Revival. And you're saying what we often hear, when revival hits, crime goes down. Yes. Domestic abuse goes down. This is what's amazing. You can document it.
Starting point is 00:16:03 This is not like we want to believe it. It actually happens. Drastically. And so the history shows, you know, you read in the writings that the police said, they said their own words, we relegated ourselves to passing out candy to children in the neighborhood because there were no calls to go on. You know, and this was hard to believe, but it's actually true that the minors who were considered the worst of the worst, along with the football or the soccer players of the day.
Starting point is 00:16:38 They were the ruffians, the smokers, the drinkers, the carousers, and their hearts changed. They said, we no longer want to go to the pubs, but we want to be with our families, our children, and our wives. It just changed everything. And I am believing in, and I'm declaring that there is a work of Holy Spirit in this nation and the nations. I'm seeing it. I'm feeling it. It's happening. We were talking about in the first hour of the program today that I think a lot of people kind of get locked in this idea that nothing ever really changes and they they lose hope that anything could ever change. And I keep saying
Starting point is 00:17:22 that God tells us that yes, believe that things can change. They may not change when you want them to change, but they change. There was a time in history when the Messiah comes. Forever, they've been waiting and waiting. He's never going to come. But then he does. There are moments in history that God acts, Azusa Street, 1906. There are moments. And I think it's true that we are now living in a moment. It's an extraordinary thing. And we have to rejoice. We have to keep praying. But I do believe. that revival is already happening. I mean, the signs of it are everywhere. Yes. Yes. But I want to keep talking about wipe every tear. What do you, what's the latest?
Starting point is 00:18:10 Because it's been a while since I've spoken to you. I know that you're in the Philippines, you said very often, about a third of the year. What is happening with wipe every tier these days? What are you seeing? Oh, gosh, Eric, you know, I'm a dreamer. I'm that, I'm that big picture guy, you know, and I have a great staff that takes care of all the details. But, you know, for years, been seeing like we want to open up we just want to we see a centers open it up and so we had one in the early years COVID hit boom it got shut down we were in partnership with a group called bella goose and but now we've just opened up a welcome center I mean we've just opened it up and it's right off Fields Avenue by the way Fields Avenue the fields are ripe for harvest
Starting point is 00:18:56 that's the name of the street that's a walking street you can only walk on, you know, there's no cars on it at night. We've opened up this welcome center with a vision of feeding girls. We already feed girls, hot meals. We go to the bars and distribute them. But we have this center now that's going to be a place of revival. It's going to be where they walk into this place. They're going to feel the presence of the Lord.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And recently, we have a group there called Church So Blessed that we work with. There are partners. They're just like this with. and they asked the girl, we've talked about having a breakfast for these girls because when we go in the middle of the night and we give them a dinner, it's wild, it's crazy, the lights are flashing,
Starting point is 00:19:42 they're very grateful, but we thought what would it be like after they get off to go, everything calms down, and so they ask the girls, hey, if we did breakfast at five or six, would you come? They go, no, we get off at four.
Starting point is 00:19:57 If we would come at four, we would come at 4 o'clock. So our team is now willing, our Filipino team, is willing to get up at 2 o'clock in the morning, make breakfast, and feed these girls. And you say, what's the big deal about that? I'm telling you, this is huge. These girls are going to come into a great app.
Starting point is 00:20:14 It's always hot. It's where I have air condition. They're going to be in there. There's going to be worship music going on. Imagine the walls filled with photos of our girls in our safe houses, graduating, becoming professional women. Freedom is going to be there. And so that's just the latest, the latest thing that's happening right now.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And we're very excited about that. I mean, I just can't help but think of the false narrative that's in our stupid culture, our Antichrist secular stupid culture that says, you know, Christians are not for women. Maybe they're not familiar with the work of wipe every tear. It's unbelievable. You're not getting, you know, paid to do this. You're doing this out of the goodness. of your heart, but God's moved on your heart because you see these young women made in the
Starting point is 00:21:03 image of God and you want to help them. You want to give them hope in a future, which is what the Lord wants to give them, hope and a future. And it's just, it's just so beautiful. And so it is my dream that more and more people would wake up and understand this is what happens when people become Christians and when Christians behave like Christians. They bless others. They bless women who are being treated horribly, women who are made in the image of God being treated like nothing, like dirt, like objects. God moves on our hearts to say we want to do something about this. That's what wipe every tear is all about. And again, it's like so many of these cases where it's exactly against the narrative that you keep hearing in the culture that only, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:55 secular feminists care about women. What a lie. Secular feminists harm women, even when they think they're caring about women. They harm women. There's so much. And I kind of think that things have gotten so bad that a lot of people are waking up to this and they're understanding that they've been lied to by the left, by the Democratic Party. They don't really care about women. They talk about caring about women. But they don't. And what you guys do, clearly. serves these young women and blesses them. Folks, we're going to go to a break, but I hope people who are listening to this,
Starting point is 00:22:35 we're not being paid by wipe every tear to do a commercial. We actually believe in this stuff. So I just, if anybody is moved to help the work of wipe every tier, go to the website, wipeverytier.org, wipeverytier.org. We'll be right back. Welcome back, folks. Today we're talking about wipe every
Starting point is 00:23:28 tear, an extraordinary organization headed up by Kenny Sack. Now, Keith, you wanted to give some context because we're talking here, but say what you were just saying off the air. Well, I'm assuming at this point, listeners would be very confused.
Starting point is 00:23:43 What's happening here? You're talking about bars. You're talking about 12,000 girls being trafficked, but then you're talking about them getting off work freely walking to a place where they can get breakfast. You know, aren't they imprisoned? Aren't they in chains? So I want to quickly paint what that strip is like.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And Kenny will, you know, fill in the details. But I would love for Kenny to talk about what's happening in the homes. I'll quickly paint the picture on the strip. The strip is like the Vegas of trafficking. It's one long street, a few hundred bars, 12,000 girls being. trafficked. They've been tricked, usually with the lure of a job, to come into Angeles, and that's when they're traffic, because now they owe money for transport, they owe money for the travel that they took to get there, and then they're forced to dance. So these girls are
Starting point is 00:24:40 physically dancing in these bars where all the Westerners come, and they have a number on their hip. Some of the bars, they'll hit them with a laser and bring the girl down. And you can, for very little money, leave with that girl or a few girls and go to the hotel for the night. And that's when the exploitation and abuse happens. And then these girls return to their home, and they do it again the next night and the next night. Okay. And to reiterate, technically, this is illegal. But corrupt scum, they're on the take. They look the other way.
Starting point is 00:25:22 So you have these laws, totally meaningless. And as Kenny said, there's a lot of corruption in the world. As corrupt as this country has become, we are in some ways the least corrupt. When you look at our culture, corruption is of the devil. And here you have a classic case where you have laws that are a joke, a cynical world where the laws mean nothing. you pay this guy, pay that guy, and you can do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:25:49 And so you're describing the reality. And this is a story. It's as old as the hills. I mean, this goes back in the 19th century, there are stories of girls lured from little villages in Scotland down to London for some job. And then they find out, oh, your job is to be a prostitute. And there's nothing you can do about it. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You're old. And shut up and do as you're told or you'll starve. This is, it's the oldest story. And here it's happening right now. 2025, you know, in a part of the world that a lot of Westerners travel there and make it possible. So thank you for clarifying. Yeah. So, Kenny, why don't we maybe talk about the – so there's a quick picture of the strip and the bars and the girls.
Starting point is 00:26:39 The mission teams travel to the Philippines because the locals aren't even allowed to go into these bars. Filipino man cannot walk into one of these bars to purchase a girl for the night. Now, that's interesting. Why not? I don't get that. If there's corruption and then, you know, everybody's looking away. The locals have to go and get their prostitution in the alleys and the streets off the strip. The strip is sex tourism. It's vacation tourism. And the big money comes from the people that look like us. and that's why we bring mission teams. Why would you bring a team to the Philippines? Because we then are the conduits.
Starting point is 00:27:24 They allow us to go into the bars. We can connect with the girls and get them out. Wow. Yeah. And I mean, you know, you say sex tourism. So this is big money for the country. Sure. It is. It is, Eric.
Starting point is 00:27:41 It's, it's, and you know, I want, you know, I want the listeners. I want the watchers of this to see this. But these girls, it's not just a job. That's how we refer to it. There is agony. There are tears. I can't tell you how many girls I've held in my arms as they're sobbing and crying and saying, I was tricked. I was tricked into this.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I came here and now I can't leave. And they can't go to the police. I asked them one time, you know, I'm an American. Do you ever just go to the police? No. We can't go to the police. police because there are stories of police raping these girls and and you know the police are on the take everyone's on the take and so these lovely girls i mean oh gosh uh and so so so filipinos can't go in
Starting point is 00:28:35 so that's why we need people listening we need you to come to be a part of a mission team to come and work with our own girls and our staff do you know that our girls that are in our care that used to be in the bars, now they become leaders, and they go back into the bars with you. It's amazing. Our girls are encountering Jesus. Holy Spirit transforms them. They become worshippers, and they want to go back to the bars. I mean, only God.
Starting point is 00:29:04 They want to go back into the bars, in their words, to go after our sisters who are still there. It's an amazing thing. And, you know, I want to say this, too, when there's revival, there is always an uptick of demonic activity. And I'm telling you, we have experienced, I've experienced a demon, actually, believe this or not, a demon appeared to me, physically appeared to me, when we first began our first mission trip to the Philippines. And since then, I've had demonic attacks in bed pushing me down into my bed, and I could barely eke out the name of Jesus.
Starting point is 00:29:41 And as soon as I did, it leaves, they, hate what we are doing, rescuing lovely girls in the name of Jesus to give them hope, freedom in a future. Hey, I think if an Episcopalian like Tucker Carlson can talk about being physically attacked by a demon, we can talk about it on this program. Folks, we'll be right back, wipe everytere.org. And Kenny Sack with wipe every tear, wipe every tier.org. So what is the process? I mean, we know there's this horror that's happening. You and your mission teams go into these bars because, again, you're Westerners, so you look like, you know, you're part of the problem. So they let you in. And what do you do? What's the process that you go through to make it possible for these girls,
Starting point is 00:30:57 most of whom are interested in getting out of this, to get out of this? What's that process? Yeah. So we go with teams, men and women, mostly women, come on our trip, but we need men. we go into the bars, we have a little business card, and it says, wipe every tear, and it says what we provide. You know, we provide education and food and daily allowance and your medical, dental, vision. It says everything we do. In fact, our card at one point said, sounds too good to be true. We know it. And they asked that.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Like, how can this be? Well, we are teams, you know, they put into the kid and we have money, and we put on this big banquet held during the morning because they, you know, they get off. off in the morning. So we have this banquet. We worship. We come together. We'll have 150 girls come and we have a big meal and we present who it is what we do. And we present the hope, the hope that lies within every man and woman who's a believer. And Holy Spirit manifest himself. These girls, many crying. And by the way, you should see, you should see what's happening in response to the gospel. We are in a season of multitudes of girls coming, and women, young women, coming to Jesus. So we offer them a way out. And they come, so I want out. And sometimes that's a little
Starting point is 00:32:17 tricky, you know, because they're staying in these bars and in the hot upper room. We have to get them out of there. And there's some logistics there. By the way, we've never been threatened. God has protected us. Maybe people listening like, this is dangerous. I don't want to go and die, get a gun pointed in my face, a knife in my back. We've never been threatened in all these years. God has protected us. Girls come out. We say come visit. We take them to our house, hour and a half away in Manila. They get to see a beautiful house. It's just gorgeous. It's lovely. And they see our other girls living in freedom. And by the way, these girls don't look like horrors. They don't look like prostitutes because they're not. They're prostituted. They're just girls. Think of your own daughters. Think of your cousin. Think of your cousin. Think of your sister. Think of your mom. That's what they're like. And we come in and they finally say, I'm in, I'm in. And we take them when we get him a medical checkup, you know, because there's all sorts of diseases in this world that they live in. And we get them taken care of. And we
Starting point is 00:33:18 begin that transformation process. Jesus comes. He inhabits the place. And they encounter him. And then our goal is to get them into college because in the Philippines, you can't even work at McDonald's, you can't work at Starbucks without a college degree. And so our goal is to get them through with a college education. Now, wait a minute. Why in the Philippines can't you work in a Starbucks or in any place without a college? I don't get that. That's weird. You're in a third, I know it is. You're in a third world. So you have supply and demand. And so Starbucks, McDonald's can choose the brightest and the best. And the brightest and the best, it's not high school kids. It's not, they're saying, we want your English to be really, really good.
Starting point is 00:34:05 You know, in the Philippines, their second language is English, and they all speak it. And so you can choose. We're going to, you know, you have multitudes that are hungry and in poverty. And they get, it's supply and demand. They can choose the brightest and best. And so they do. And what is the spiritual state of the Philippines? You know, when you think of a different country, is it, are there many Christians there,
Starting point is 00:34:31 many serious Christians, not many. What is the climate of Manila of these places? Yeah, well, Roman Catholicism is king because of, you know, the Spaniards conquered them and colonized them initially. So Roman Catholicism. However, there is a great, there are some great churches. There's some things happening in the Philippines. We're talking Bible-believing wild types like I am. believing in all the stuff, you know, what God told us to do, heal the sick, you know, cleanse lepers and drive out demons.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And then I add and feed the poor. And so there's great churches. There's some wonderful, wonderful churches there. And one is church so blessed whom we work with. And they're known as like one of the leaders in revival, atmosphere in that culture in the Philippines. And so it's a good. There's lots of places to plug in. And so, Keith, you went on a minute. trip. How many years ago was that when you went and experienced this yourself? I've been now three times. So once was before COVID, once was right when COVID happened. We were in Manila when the whole country locked down for COVID. And then I've been one more time since then. So I've been three times. And what led you to this or to want to do this?
Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah, a very dear friend of ours, Brian Johansson, had gotten involved, and he just said, Keith, you need to come. Now, I've been to India. I've served in Rwanda, Uganda. I've always had a heart for the nations, and specifically bringing the kingdom of God into these remote, rural, dark places. Once I went to the Philippines, it won my heart. I've never experienced. anything like this. This strip that you can't even imagine, I think it's the number two, Kenny, capital of the world for trafficking. When I walk down that street, I feel like I'm on holy ground. It feels sacred to me. And that won't make any sense, except when we go on these trips, before we hit the strip, we worship for hours. We worship for hours.
Starting point is 00:36:56 You cannot think, listen, men, any man that thinks they can walk into one of these bars and being an ambassador for Christ, you're out of your mind. I mean, Kenny's always said, if you feel the slightest tinge of temptation, you run. You run. But it never has happened because we spend so much time in worship. By the time we set our feet on the strip and walk into a bar, you see as heaven sees. see what the father sees. You walk in with joy. We say the kingdom is here. Jesus is here.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Kenny will high-five the girls that are dancing. We'll buy a round of drinks for a table of guys. And you'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you condoning what they're doing? No. We're loving them just as much as the girls because they are trapped in Satan's prison cell, just as the girls are. It's just a different cell.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And when they begin to taste that fragrance of Christ, we've watched men repent in the bar. In the bar. We're going to, we'll be right back, folks, talking to Kenny Sack, who heads up wipe every tear, wipe every tier.org. Folks, welcome back. Off the air, Kenny, you just said something to me. This is a miracle. You said to me, before you ever met Keith, because of course Keith and I have been friends for 30 years, but before you ever met Keith, you said to me that God spoke to you that somehow he would use me and this program
Starting point is 00:38:45 to bring attention to the plight of these girls. I mean, when was that? Yeah, you know, a time frame a couple years ago, before I, before I, or more, I don't know the time frame, me, it just goes, but I, you know how the Lord speaks to me anyway, dreams, visions, and just the voice of God. And I remember one day he said,
Starting point is 00:39:06 And it was a season. He says, I'm going to use Eric Metaxus to bring freedom to girls trapped in the sex trade. It was after that that Keith at one point said, you know, I'm friends with Eric. You know, I've known Eric for 30 years. And I said, you've got to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding. Because I listened to your show, you know. And Kenny, you didn't say anything to me for probably a year. You never mentioned it. No, I didn't, because I'm not that kind of guy. Like, oh, gee. You know, Keith. knows Eric. Maybe I can get in here. I just didn't say a thing until there was such an unction inside of me. And I go, Keith, God told me that Eric is going to be used to set girls free.
Starting point is 00:39:46 And I'm thinking, how does that work? Well, shortly after that, I flew to New York, you know, and I was with you on your show. And I'm believing that's going to happen. And at a greater level. Well, it's happening now because it's not me. It's the people who listen to this program, praise Jesus, who care about these things. And, I mean, that's why I'm bold to say, folks, go to wipe every tier.org and get involved. This is, if you want to know what God cares about, God cares about this. He cares about these young women. Try to imagine how they're trapped.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And then, as you guys say, incredibly graciously and biblically, these men are trapped. These men are trapped. They are, I mean, nobody wants to be in that position. What a dirty, horrible thing. This is what you're doing for fun. this is how pathetic and broken you are, that this is what you do. Nobody wants that for when you're a little boy dreaming of growing up. And nobody wants that.
Starting point is 00:40:46 It's horrifying, horrifying, and to be part of this evil system. So God bless you guys. I mean, I just hope that people listening go to wipe every tier.org just to kind of check out what you're doing. But, I mean, we've just got a minute or so left. What else can we say? Well, I'm unashamed to say we'd love for you to give. I mean, we love, and to pray. And I want to say this, I'm sure of it, that there are men listening and there are women listening, both, who are struggling with their past or their current situation in regard to sexual things.
Starting point is 00:41:19 And I'm here to say that God will bring healing to you. We've had people come on our trips. And unbeknown, they're not thinking like this. They're thinking, we're going to go and serve, serve, serve, and they get served, and they get set free. We've had women who have experienced horrendous stuff. We've had men who have been abusers. We had a man come on a trip, an all-man team, and he says, I used to be one of these guys. He didn't share that with us beforehand.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I was one of these guys, and I'm here to say, God is setting me free as I sit here. And he's now become a donor and a giver and a prayer. And I'm here to say that God wants to set you free. And people can even call me 208. 866-1967. I'm here to say, I'll talk with you. If you want to go on a trip, you want to give, or you want to be set free of those demonic entities that are bothering you, they're violating you, they are hounding you. I'm here to say there's freedom in Jesus. Okay, give me your phone number again.
Starting point is 00:42:23 208-866-1967. That's my cell number. 1967. The website is wipe every tier.org. Folks, you know, there's not a lot of planning on this program. We just kind of try to be led by God. And I hope that some of you have been touched. Kenny Sacked, God bless you. Thanks for what you're doing. Keith Jinta, thank you for introducing me to Kenny. Wipeverytier.org. And if you want to call Kenny, 2866, 1967. Thank you, Eric.

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