The Eric Metaxas Show - Kevin McCullough and Dick Morris
Episode Date: November 10, 2022Kevin McCullough continues his report on what will happen with the Senate and the House going forward; plus, Dick Morris brings more good news from last night's results. ...
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We continue talking to our friend, Kevin McCullough.
You may know him as his real name, Boatstradamus.
I say it. It's a chilling thing to pronounce that word, Votesradamus.
He knows all, tells all. Okay, Votesradamus. Tell us more about what happened last night.
Again, I have officially dubbed this. Eric is not allowed to be depressed today,
even though the media is telling you that Joe Biden won last night and that Trump is finished
and that everything else is going downhill, that is the opposite of what happened.
And you ended last hour talking about Lee Zeldon.
Let me just talk to you about the quote-unquote failed candidacy of Lee Zeldin.
First of all, Kathy Hockel will take this governorship reigns with the smallest percentage win of any governor in New York's history in the last hundred years.
Nobody has come this close to losing their seat and still won it.
Having said that, what does that mean?
Well, she obviously has been sent a message that New Yorkers are tired of the crime, they've got a lot of issues about the economy, et cetera.
etc., etc. But in
Zeldon's fervor to get to
that place, he worked 19 months,
he held huge rallies on Long Island
and upstate. There was obviously
chicanery that took place in Manhattan.
You were talking about
cheating that's obvious.
It's obvious that there's some sort of
like printing press at the bottom of
Gracie Mansion in the city or something.
I don't know. But
in all of this excitement,
he pulled probably
four more congressional delegates
into the GOP delegation for New Yorkers than they've had in many, many years.
In fact, New York may have 11 Republican senators out of 26 total that they could have.
In fact, I think that's the number that they're going to end on.
The most optimistic...
Wait a minute.
11 Republicans I had seen...
Congressional member.
You know, you said senators, I got confused.
I'm sorry.
11 more...
Yeah.
Right.
So, and the most optimistic out, you know, forecast.
I had seen was maybe 12.
So to just miss on one of those,
and four of those seats were by two points or less,
and it was no doubt the Zeldon energy,
he came to the area, he held campaign rallies for the candidates,
he did all that stuff, he got them across the finish line.
So Zeldon's campaign was anything but a waste
if it gives New York State four more Republican votes
in the Congress than they should have had.
And they almost single-handedly gave the House of Representatives
back to the Republicans.
So Lee Zeldon,
is a national hero.
In many respects.
Yeah.
And I've never seen, when George Pataki won, he had to work hard.
I've never seen anybody work as hard as Lee Zeldon did in this race.
So he's going to be primed for a Senate seat, or maybe another shot at the governorship in four years.
But don't count out this amazing guy.
He still serves his country in uniform as part of the Reserve.
He's a colonel in the U.S. Army.
He has served his country in Congress.
He has done everything he could to make this world better.
and he is just a wonderful, honest man that tells his voters the truth.
There's a future for him.
That's another bright spot.
Let me give you one more.
We have permanently ended the careers of Nancy Pelosi, Beto O'Rourke, Stacey,
Averymns, Evan McMullen, and Charlie Christ.
Five names we don't have to listen to anymore.
It's kind of funny because I got to tell you, Beto O'Rourke,
there are certain people that they're painful, even to behold, much less hear, speak a few syllables.
Beto O'Rourke, Stacey Abrams, and in some ways the worst, Charlie Christ.
Oh, my gosh.
He's lost as a Republican.
He's lost as a Democrat.
He's lost as an independent.
And he lost as a Democrat again.
Leatherface is done.
He is over.
There is no more future for him.
Beto O'Rourke has lost three consecutive statewide races in Texas.
They are tired of him.
Stacey Abrams even finally admitted last night that she's lost both of the last two governors' races in Georgia.
These people are done.
They're gone.
There's not a place for them in the electoral process anymore because double and triple renunciation is really a hard thing to overcome if you're a politician.
Well, that's pretty terrific.
And you know what?
Yes, we need to celebrate those things.
And, you know, speaking about Trump, it's fascinating to me.
honestly, when everybody raves about DeSantis,
Desantis wouldn't have been possible without Trump.
And DeSantis is liked because he's Trump-like.
It's kind of funny to me when people make this kind of, you know,
we're really seeing the party is changing.
And we're getting leaders, hopefully like Kerry Lake and DeSantis,
who really understand what the people long for and are fighting for that.
And so that is something that is absolutely wonderful.
So, but.
No doubt about it.
And in fact, what he did in Florida last night.
And I would draw a little bit of contrast to what you said about.
Yeah, Trump made it cool to be America first again.
That's what Trump gave everybody the permission to do.
Right.
But these candidates had to embrace that.
And they had to go out and articulate it.
It wasn't just because he, you know.
Oh, no, definitely.
That's exactly right.
Sign of approval.
And Ron DeSantis.
unlike any other governor in the in the U.S., for the last two and a half years, has drawn daily
fire from the White House and from the liberals inside the Beltway in ways that nobody else
except Trump has drawn.
So, yeah, he's similar in a lot of respects because he's had to walk a lot of the same footsteps.
And what he did in Miami-Dade County last night, he turned Florida, which had kind of gone,
especially since the Trump years, had gone from, you know, pretty dark purple to a kind of a light,
lavender. He turned it into crimson red last night that is going to get stains on people that
rubs up against. I mean, this is, Florida is such a different place. And it's because he built
coalitions with Latinos. He built the coalitions with African Americans. He went out and told
people the truth painfully, even if his advisors told him, don't tell him that. It's not going to,
and he took on the press the same way Carrey Lake does, the same way President Trump does. He calls them
out. He tells them the hard
truth and he doesn't apologize for it.
In many respects,
he is not so much, his success
isn't so much because of Trump,
it's because he's so much like Trump
and Kerry Lake is going to be the same kind of
person. I think she still has a shot at pulling through
in Arizona even with the corruption
that went on down there. But you've got, yes,
you've got a new generation of America
first thinkers. They think
that way. They prioritize their policies
that way. They want to govern that way.
and as they have success, you see what it did.
He absolutely obliterated the Democratic Party in the state of Florida last night.
I mean, it is unbelievable.
We saw a lot of that.
I mean, right here in our neck of the woods, Malia Takas got like 60% of the vote in Staten Island here.
You know, normally she would win with, you know, 51 or 53 maybe, but it's just kind of dramatic.
It's interesting, too, to kind of figure out why some of those things went the way they did and why others didn't.
I mean, in order to win, you know, you have to have the ability to make sure there's not a lot of corruption and stealing going on.
And that's, to me, part of what the next phase is, is how do we fight against that?
We've got to do something, Kevin.
Well, to your point, Florida banned mass mail-in ballots.
they banned all of the COVID restrictions, you know,
COVID standards that people had put into other states.
They got rid of all of those.
They said none of these are going to be allowed here.
Same thing in Wisconsin.
The Supreme Court there said you can't have any of your COVID protocols in place for this election.
And Wisconsin, in a place where it probably was stolen in 2020,
they're going to affirmatively reelect Ron Johnson to the Senate.
And the fact that they haven't called his race as we're sitting here right now
means that they're just still trying to play the game.
Right.
But they're going to have to find 30,000 plus votes in places that are no longer reporting.
So you think that what is happening as we speak in Arizona is corruption.
In other words, you really do believe that that's what is happening with Kerry Lake.
I think, well, yeah, I don't.
Because the polls had her, you know, winning pretty clearly.
So when the machines break in America County and all this is going on.
take away from this election is these polls are garbage, especially the ones that
weren't Trafalgar. Like, there's no polls that are worth their salt right now. But let me just
say about Arizona, I was concerned the day after the election in 2020 that Republicans
didn't come out in a hellfire blitz demanding electoral integrity in every state of the union.
And the states that hedged and hummed and awed the most, that's the places where you're still
seeing the problem. We'll be right back more with Kevin.
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When you get the blues.
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When you get the blues, get a rock and roll.
You can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay, or you can call me Ray J.
What is that one?
But you doesn't have to call me Ron Johnson from Wisconsin.
I love the idea that Ron Johnson from Wisconsin pulled it out.
It's just unbelievable.
What other good news can you share with the group while we're here?
Well, I do want to say that Ron DeSantis is responsible for someone's downfall last night.
And he didn't mean to do it.
He just created such a great place in Florida to go to.
But I do think that the DeSantis effect kept Lee Zeldon from getting across the finish line.
last night. If we had had just 600,000 more voters of conservative nature that embrace
conservative ideas in New York, you would have had the governor's up this morning.
You actually think that many people move to Florida? I know that that many, more than that many
people have left New York in the last two and a half years. And yeah, a lot of them landed in
Florida. The effect of moving to where you are the most free has become the currency of the
of the day. And you saw it first during pandemic, but then as things just continued to improve
for Floridians, while New Yorkers were still being told they were going to be vaccine mandated
and mask mandated and all the other kind of controls, in addition to schools not opening,
I know personally more than 100 people that moved to Florida in my own circle. So yes,
I think that outgoing effect did diminish the pool of people that Zelda would have attracted
to his campaign and who knows what would have happened if he had had another 500 or 600,000 votes.
But there have been millions that have left New York in the last two years.
Wow. I would never thought that you could say millions. That seems that's very dramatic.
I mean, the whole state is what? 24 million?
It is, it is smaller than it once was.
Well, that's still, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, what other, uh,
races have we not covered. You said Herschel Walker and Warnock are likely to be in a runoff,
and you're favoring. That is going to happen. That will happen about four weeks from now,
and I think you're going to see everything in the kitchen sink thrown into that race.
I think you're going to bring Donald Trump and Mitch McConnell together, and they're all going to go.
Everyone's going to go to Georgia, and they're going to do everything they can to make that a success.
and I think that Walker's going to pull that out.
I just think ultimately he's the guy that more Georgians will end up trusting with that seat than Warnock is.
And I think that you had a little bit of tepid enthusiasm for Warnock last night,
which is why the combined other two candidates beat him.
But we'll see.
We'll see what happens there.
I am very excited about one other race.
And I'm excited because I've got a personal connection to them.
But to see another governor Huckabee take the helm.
in Arkansas.
We haven't talked about that.
That's terrific thing.
Because not only will Sarah bring immense common sense and working across party lines
and doing everything that her dad did when he was the longest serving governor of American history when he served at that time,
she's going to do it with even more America First Focus.
So you've got a huge win right there in the heart of the Southwest.
And then you've also got coming from Alabama replacing Shell,
Senator Shelby, you've got, for the first time from the state of Alabama, a young Republican mom that is going to assume that Senate mantlepiece there. And you're going to have more conservative women invading the House of Representatives. I was speaking with Senator Marsha Blackburn just yesterday on the Wilcow show on the Salem News Channel. And she's naming off all these people that are coming in. You've got this young, vibrant class of women that don't,
think abortion is the most important thing on the agenda. They're articulating that. They're getting
elected. They're taking school boards, yet one more win for a lot of communities last night. And this
isn't going to be reported in the media anywhere. But for whatever the Congress did and going to the
Republicans and the Republicans may still take the Senate, Republicans and conservatives and parents
of good conscience took lots of school board seats last night across the country. And on the local level,
getting those school board seats, getting those city council seats, making the difference on the
local level. That is where real change starts. So it was a good night last night. It was at least an A-minus.
Whatever red wave, not red wave, whatever people want to call it, I'm not going to say it was a red wave,
but it was a solid win for a country that needed to return to common sense. And it sets up a
really interesting match for the 2024 cycle. And we can't forget next Tuesday night at Mar-a-Lago,
President Trump is going to make an announcement. We don't.
We don't have any idea what that announcement might be.
I think he's going to announce that he's, I think he's announcing that they're changing the official cereal at Mar-a-Lago to the Honeynut Cheerios.
Actually, I think on November 15th, he's going to say, my announcement is that on November 20th, I'm going to make an announcement.
It's that, what he did at that rally the other day was vintage, genius Trump.
I had all these people, you know, saying to me, oh, he's going to, he's going to announce tonight.
And I was enraged, frankly, because I thought somebody, actually it was our friend, Sean Foyt, said that he had inside information that this is going to happen and that, you know, the Trump's family.
And I thought that would be a disaster.
Be the most selfish thing that somebody could do.
It would be totally selfish and horrifying.
And, you know, so the fact that he didn't do that was, I was really thrilled.
But then read the list of everybody he had endorsed and said, please go vote for them.
Genius.
And all the media was there to cover it.
And they had the music, the swelling music behind him.
That was actually bizarre.
I thought like, what is going on?
Why are they doing this?
I honestly don't know why somebody made this decision.
This is stagecraft.
We're going to have the music playing while you read this.
Are they making a campaign video out of it?
I don't know.
You know, when he makes his announcement next week,
are they going to use this as a campaign video?
Because I just thought, why can't they put the music in after?
Why do they have to be playing it now as he's reading this stuff?
Anyway, it was, it was an extraordinary moment.
And I do, I really do take issue with people that are, you know, they're kind of like playing into this.
And I don't know why Trump does this, but why he makes it seem like he's got this feud going on with the Santas.
It's just, it's just silly.
I really don't get it.
They're both such heroes.
I don't think DeSantis has much of a chance.
The love for Trump is huge.
people want him to get his second term and DeSantis has plenty time to get his two terms after Trump.
So I don't know. I'm just not sure what's behind that.
Well, I think that Trump is hearing from people and I don't know how accurate it is that
establishment forces are trying to recruit either Ron DeSantis or Glenn Yonkin to run against him in 24.
And let me just publicly that I would be shocked if DeSantis run.
runs in 24.
You saw what Trump did to the very good men, people like Ted Cruz and Rick Santorum and others that, you know, were on the stage in 2016.
Nobody wants to go through that.
Trump plays for keeps, and it's one of the lesser qualities that I like about him.
But I will tell you this, if either of them get the call and say, come be my number two, they'll do it in a heartbeat.
and that's going to set whoever that person up is for a really good outcome.
If Trump loses in 24, they're the obvious odds-on favorite for the following cycle.
And if he gets elected, he can only serve one term.
So they're going to be the next cycle potential anyway.
So I don't see DeSantis having a lot to gain by jumping in.
He's seen all the polls.
In the Republican primary field, you have three names that appear in every one of them.
Trump, DeSantis, Cheney.
Cheney gets 0%.
DeSantis gets around 10 to 15%.
And most of the rest of it goes to Trump.
And then you have a whole bunch of also-rans that get one or 2%.
It's not really a contest.
He is by far the second most popular in his party.
Give it time.
He'll have his moment.
But if Trump wants to run, he needs to announce it.
He needs to put a team together.
He needs to play for key.
Well, he's going to do that in a couple of days, man.
Where you been, bro?
So, hey, honestly, I don't think, I think we have to be realistic.
Trump, no one can draw the kinds of crowds that he does.
He is just, I mean, as much as I love Ron DeSantis,
I just think that Trump is absolutely unique.
He's a political and business genius,
and it's on display, his ability to communicate the way that he does at these rallies.
I mean, I was, I'd never been to one.
Have you ever been to one?
I have.
I've been to three, actually.
I mean, I'd never been to one, so I was at the one.
And in very different circumstances, in New Jersey, in Orlando, Florida, and in one other one,
I'm trying to remember where it was.
But it is, they are, they are quite unique experiences.
And it is, it is very true that he has built something.
The question will be, will the MAGA outdo the independence in terms of, you know,
of what independents are looking for.
And there may be some evidence that
that independents were not looking for MAGA forces last night
in some of those races that we were disappointed in.
But overall, you're going to have an America First Congress.
You're going to have an America first focus in that Congress.
And I think that everybody's going to win.
And to just take slight contrast with you,
Kevin McCarthy's going to be a good speaker of the House.
Salem Communications have been off the record
with Kevin McCarthy for many years.
The guy is a solid, bona fide, conservative.
He came out against impeachment just the other day.
That wasn't a priority of his.
Impeachment of Biden?
Yeah.
Why should it be?
What we need to do right now is hold committee hearings on all the stuff that has been done.
Okay.
All right.
We're at a time.
Otherwise, I'd wipe the floor with you, Kevin McCr-
No, seriously, I love it.
It's just such a joy to have you, my friend.
Thank you.
We'll be talking to you soon.
God bless you.
We'll be back with Dick Morris.
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Folks, as promised, it took us a while, but our friend Dick Morris joins us to tell us what happened last night.
Dick, what do you think happened?
Good news, bad news.
What's your opinion on these things?
Well, it's still happening, Eric.
In Arizona and Nevada, they are still counting the votes.
In Nevada, they may not be finished until Friday.
In Arizona, there's been a major change in the vote count.
And with each new tranche of votes that they count, the Republicans are winning them by about 60, 40.
So Kerry Lake has gone from being about 100,000 behind to being less than 20.
And Masters has gone from being 250 behind to less than 100.
And as of about two hours ago, an hour and a half ago, there were still 450,000 votes to count.
in Arizona. So it looks very likely that Kerry Lake will win the governorship there. And it's about
and more likely than not that Masters wins the Senate seat, although that's not as clear.
And Laxol seems to be likely to win in Nevada. So most likely what's going to happen is that
the Republicans will get control of the Senate without Warnock, a walker being
resolved, even though that will still go to a runoff, but it'll go to a runoff with the Republicans
at 51-48. The Republicans also clearly took the House. And at the moment, if it's about a 15-seat margin,
which it appears to be, got to add that to the 14 seats that they picked up in 2020. So a 30-seats
shift over four years is not bad. I think that the
the viability of the so-called red wave is demonstrated by two simple statistics.
In Florida, DeSantis, won by 20 points, and two years before Trump had won by three, gain of 17.
And in New York State, Trump lost by 22, but Zeldon, the Republican, lost by five, all still a gain of 17.
So the Republicans picked up 17 points in New York and in Florida, the third and fourth largest states in the country.
And they took control of the House.
And it's very possible that they took control of the Senate.
So I think the red wave is doing just fine.
Well, that's all good news.
I mean, of course, you don't get points for points, though, right?
In other words, it's one thing to say, now we only lost by five in New York.
and not by 22.
But ultimately, we just had our friend Kevin McCullough on saying that maybe the best effect
of Lee Eldon's candidacy was to get a lot of Congress seats flipped in New York, which, of course,
is fantastic.
At least three and maybe four that was significant.
But there are some basic points that I want to make to go beyond the math.
First, I don't think it matters much who wins the Senate.
long as the Republicans have the House. The first purpose of controlling a chamber is legislative.
And you're not going to be able to pass anything with Biden as president. But you can stop what he's
doing and you can stop it if you have the House. It doesn't matter if you also have the Senate.
And the House is, of course, more disciplined than the Senate because there's no 60-vote rule.
And I think that Biden's agenda died last night.
And the way I would look at it is the Obama's third term came to an end last night.
The social legislative push up at the left, I think, stopped last night.
The second purpose of controlling a chamber is to control the gavel,
so you can control investigations by committees.
And you only need one gavel to hit Biden over the head, you know?
Look, this may be the most exciting thing that we've got,
folks like Jim Jordan in the House who understand that we need to get to the bottom of tremendous
corruption, chicanery, whatever terms we want to use, crime. And now they're going to have the
ability to do that. That is an astonishing piece of news, which hasn't been said very, very much
as we're dealing with what happened last night.
The next two years, I think that the Republican Democratic scandals,
over Ukraine and China and Hunter Biden's laptop and the politicization of the FBI and the Justice
Department are likely to be major items over the next two years. And then I'd like to put this
whole thing into a perspective in terms of the likelihood of a Trump victory, a Republican victory
in 24. The Fed is raising interest rates quickly and dramatically, and will continue to do so because
inflation is not abating in the slightest. And you're probably headed toward the situation,
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and caused by Carter in the first example.
And in each of those cases, the increases in interest rates brought on a dramatic recession.
And that recession costs George H.W. Bush's job and Jimmy Carter, his job.
And I believe that the recession that's likely to come about as a result of very high interest rates will, of course, cost Biden his job.
and probably deliver the election to the Republican.
That is huge news.
We're going to go to a break.
We've got Dick Morris for the rest of the hour.
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your analysis of where we are. You just said about the recession that is short to come.
and how that will help get probably, I would say,
and you would say Donald Trump elected to his second term,
which I'm looking forward to with bated breath.
Well, let's say look at the election of 1932
when Roosevelt defeated Hoover easily,
and I think that's what you're looking at in 24.
You can't go through what this country is going to have to unfortunately go through
in the next two years.
recession is a mild word.
It'll be a depression.
Could be great depression.
And you're talking about massive unemployment and continued inflation.
And on top of that, energy price is high.
So I think that it'll be a disaster for the Democrats in 2024.
So if you look at the overall picture, I think it's quite good.
There has been this scuttlebutt during the,
the day yesterday, fomented by the press that wants to create a dissantis versus Trump primary,
because they see that as the best way of keeping Trump out of the way.
It's their second choice.
Their first is in Dichen to Merrick Garland, but they see that might not work.
So now they're working on a primary fight.
And it's important to understand what the stat that I said earlier in the show.
The Republicans gained as much in New York as they,
gained in Florida. So statistically, 17 points in each state. So to attribute this to, if you
listened to the news last night, it was the whole country no longer has a red wave except for Florida
where DeSantis is leading the pack. In fact, Florida and New York were identical. And it chose
Trump's leadership, ultimately, not DeSantis's. The wave was set in motion by Trump.
And I want to emphasize that the overall point here is that we Republicans stand either to go down the path of a vicious primary that will split our party in half and make Democrats electable in 2024 akin to Ted Kennedy's challenge to Jimmy Carter in 1980 that led to Reagan's victory or a nomination.
of Trump, which is in conformity with the views of the overwhelming majority of the Republican
electorate and will be part of a glide path to winning in 2024.
And it's important to make that decision.
Those who say that they like Trump's policies, but they can't stand him personally and
maybe we need someone lighter than DeSantis, you're kidding yourself and you're setting
yourself up for a fiasco.
I completely agree with you.
and I do get annoyed when people just don't see really how genuinely unique Trump has been.
There is no one having been in my first Trump rally just the other day in LaTro, Pennsylvania.
There is no one, absolutely no one, Desantis included, that begins to come close to his ability to connect with the working men and women of this country.
he has an ability to inspire and to entertain that I've never seen in my lifetime.
And people, you know, have raved about Reagan and others.
No one comes close to Trump and his abilities to do that.
And I really think that he deserves his second term since I'm convinced that he won
his second term and it was stolen from him recently.
And so I have very little patience with people that think we should do.
move on from Trump. I don't know what we would move on from. He's been an amazing leader,
and we wouldn't have done as well as we did yesterday if it weren't for Donald Trump. That seems
clear. Yeah, I agree with you completely. So I think that the other point that I would make
is that if their red wave is being attenuated, which it's not probably, it's going to be
overwhelmed by a green wave of money from the high-tech and media.
billionaires. We're used to the idea of the fake news media attacking Trump and attacking the
Republicans. But when you look at the financial advantage that the Democrats had in these elections,
it is truly and completely astonishing. It's beyond belief. And I think it's very important that we
understand the magnitude of that difference. In these races, the Democrats were outspending the Republicans
by three and four to one.
And it was all big money from the tech billionaires
who were dumping money in and thinking they can control the election.
And that's a reality we just have not focused on,
but we need to.
We've looked at how big tech censors us,
and we've looked at how the news media biases us.
But nobody's really looked at the fact that the tech,
millionaires really tried to control the country this year.
That's interesting.
It's an ugly thing to think about when I think about how that happened.
And then the rhino establishment forces that did not go to bat for people like Doug Mastriano.
Very upsetting.
I'm not sure what we're going to do about that.
but I also have to touch on the idea of corruption, stealing.
I cannot believe that, for example,
Fetterman got the votes that he did.
The man is a husk of a man.
He barely can speak.
The idea that he defeated Dr. Oz is just hard for me to take in.
Well, I have two perspectives on that.
The first is that I,
think that we have to understand that one of the strategies the Democrats use to win the elections
in 20 if they won them and to win what elections they won in 22 is early voting. And the Republicans
were allergic to early voting. They absolutely refused to early vote by mail because of their
bad experiences in 22. And even in person vote, early voting, Republicans tended to be defeated.
So we went into these races in Pennsylvania, for example, down by about 700,000 votes before the first vote was counted in Republicans, underperforming Democrats in the early voting.
In Pennsylvania, I think the moment the polls opened, the early voting that had gone on for the preceding weeks had given Federman about 700,000 votes and Oz about 100,000.
We were going to go to a break. Folks, we'll be right back. Final segment with Dick Morris. Don't go away.
Folks, welcome back. Final segment with our friend Dick Morris. Dick, what else do we need to talk about in terms of where we are as a nation after last night?
Well, I made the point in my book, The Return, Trump's big 2024 comeback, that early voting is decisive in these elections.
the Republican Party has been based on the George Bush model of 2000,
where you do everything on Election Day.
And the advent of massive early voting has galvanized and changed the Democratic strategy,
but not the Republicans at all.
So in Pennsylvania, in early voting, Federman got 700,000 votes and Oz 100,000.
So they went into election day down by 600,000 votes.
similarly in New York State for Hockel against Zelda.
And the Republicans can't let that happen.
Republicans were allergic to early voting by mail because they felt hurt in 2020 with that,
and they wouldn't even vote early in person.
And the Republican Party has to get over the idea that you can vote on Election Day and that's it.
You don't think we should try to abolish early voting in whatever states we can abolish it?
No, I don't think you can or should.
I think there's no reason to ban early voting.
It's a matter of choices to when people vote.
I don't think you should have it two months before,
but I think for a week or two before, I think it's fine.
And we just have to win under those rules.
And it's an indulgence to sit back and wait for a big crescendo on election day.
It's just not modern.
It's just not the way the game is played these days.
And the second point that I made that I made in the earlier segment is that the Republicans let themselves be totally overwhelmed by big tech money, by Silicon Valley billionaires who wrote huge checks to win elections.
And you go into these elections like, I don't have the stats in my mind, but I looked at them a few minutes ago.
You would go into a state like Connecticut where Blumenthal spent about 30 million.
dollars and Liora Levy spent about six or Johnson being outspent in Wisconsin or in
Kerry Lake being outspent in Arizona not by small margins by tens of millions of dollars
two to one three to one and four to one and the Republican wealthy people and also the grassroots
donors are to blame for not having more of a red wave because they simply did not give the money
that they needed to give to win the election.
It's a curious thing.
Why would that be?
I don't quite understand that.
I think complacence.
I think self-indulgence.
I think the Democrats were motivated by esoteric concerns
like climate change that dominated their thinking.
And I just don't know the answer to that.
But the Republicans had better get their act together.
Well, we've got less than a minute.
left. You think Kerry Lake will pull it out in Arizona? Yeah, I'm pretty confident of that. I don't know about
masters, but he might. But as I said, control of the Senate is a luxury. The necessity was control of
the House. And we did that. And that's what will make all the difference over the next two years.
And what is the first investigation you think that they should apply themselves to?
Hunter Biden and a laptop, obviously.
I think it's going to be very interesting.
I don't know who will be leading that charge,
but there are a number of good folks in there,
a number of real heroes.
I think he would probably be doing it.
Yeah.
He's great with that.
Yeah, and a man of a profound Christian faith,
I just have to say I'm hopeful.
Dick, thanks so much for being able to come on this program.
We end much more positively than we began.
Thanks again. And folks, we'll catch you tomorrow. Thanks.
