The Eric Metaxas Show - Kevin McGary

Episode Date: December 22, 2022

Kevin McGary from Every Black Life Matters has a new book, "WOKEd Up!: Finally Putting an Ax to the Taproot of White Supremacy and Racism in America."

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my interest, P-I-Q-E, C-Q-U-E, it piques my interest. Christmas, the rest of the story. Fortunately, I have as my guest right now the author of Christmas, the rest of the story. Rick Renner is his name. He lives in Moscow, Russia. He's coming to us from Moscow, Russia. He's a broadcaster. He's a pastor. He's a best-selling author. Rick, welcome to the program. It's good to be with you, Eric. Well, first of all, it really does peak my interest. When somebody has this beautiful book all about Christmas, but it says the rest of the story, I've just kind of ask you, why did you write this book? What is in this book that we don't find in a lot of those other Christmas books that we might pick up? Well, Eric, I studied this story for years and years, and I was tired of hearing the same thing year after year after year, and particularly as a pastor. Every year, I was thinking it's the same story every year.

So I began to dive deep to really study a lot of early Christian writers history and just really dove deep. I plunged into what is in between the verses about the Christmas story. And what I found is just amazing. It is amazing. And that's why I call it Christmas the rest of the story. And when you really understand all the pieces of the puzzle, only God himself could have written this narrative. It is just amazing.

Well, tell us some of these things, so our interest isn't merely peaked, but it's further peaked. Tell us, I mean, for example, you say why God chose Mary and Joseph, the significance of the manger and the swaddling clothes. I mean, I've heard these things. over the years. What are some of the things that you focus on? Well, example for Mary. Mary was not just a poor girl. She was raised by a man who was a scroll scholar. Her father was a scroll scholar. Now hang on. I have never heard that ever. He was a scroll scholar. How do we know that?

Because it was written by early church fathers. You can imagine this is the most miraculous story ever told. They wrote a lot of things about these events, which they learned from Mary. Luke Mary before he wrote the gospel account. See, this is one of the things that is, I'm just so glad that you're bringing this up. I'm thrilled because one of the problems with the evangelical church, of which I'm a non-card-carrying member, is we tend to avoid either anything that happened before.

Azusa Street or anything that happened before Luther, we kind of forget that there were people there, the early church fathers is the classic example. So what early church fathers wrote about Mary and about who her father? I mean, I'm fascinated that I have literally never heard this before, that Mary's father was a scroll scholar. Which of the church fathers identifies that? Well, it's all in that book.

But I'll tell you that there were so many who wrote about Mary's family that it is remarkable. For example, we know that Mary was dedicated as a church. child when she was still with her family in Jerusalem. Then they moved to Sephora, which is in the north, just three miles from Nazareth. And in Sephora was the primary synagogue in the north of Israel. And her father worked there. So Mary was raised in a home where the Word of God was prominent. And she was told as a child that she had been brought into the world, listen to this, Eric, for a special purpose, that she was to be the handmade of the Lord. And that's why when Gabriel showed up, She wasn't just shocked. This is what she'd been prepared for her whole life.

It's astonishing that we don't normally hear this, Rick. I have to say, so I'm grateful to you. And I also want to make clear that folks, we're talking about extra biblical writings, but not non-biblical in terms of what they're saying. We're not talking about the apocrypha or we're not talking about what's called pseudipographic writings. In other words, things that are made up. We're talking about things that the tradition of the church from the very beginning has recognized as real, as true. And again, are we talking about Eusebius, Polycarp? What follows them? All of them. All of them. All of them. Fascinating. And then when you come to the study of Joseph, well, the word carpenter is a really bad translation. You were raised in the Greek Orthodox Church, so you may already know that.

But it's the word tecton in Greek. That is not the word carpenter. The word tecton is where we get the word technology. He was a highly advanced artisan. Probably he was one who made mosaics. He may have fabricated furniture of ivory or fine jewelry. It's even possible that Joseph was a building supervisor there in the city of Sephora, which was being constructed by Herod Antipus at that very time. Though he lived in Nazareth, there was nothing to do in Nazareth. If you've ever been there, you'll know that even now, and 2,000 years ago it was worse, there was nothing to do in. in Nazareth. It was a sleeping community for the people who worked in support us. And Joseph would have been amazingly a very well-paid employee. He was not a poor man. And think about it, Eric.

If you were God, would you send your son into the hands of somebody who had failed in life? God looked for somebody who had proved themselves faithful and natural things. And God said, wow, that's a young man I can tap on the shoulder to raise my son. And Jesus, though he lived in Nazareth, came over to Saffordas to see his grandparents. Most people have never thought that Jesus had grandparents. But when he came to support us, that's where he saw the theater. That's where he saw the banking system and the rich people and around supporters, all the farmlands, everything in the parables of Jesus. He saw as a child coming to see his grandparents. in the city of supporters and also where his daddy worked.

I think that's amazing, but you've got to really dig deep to find these things. Well, it's extraordinary that this information has been available, but somehow, I'm always fascinated the way information is either ignored or the way it travels more slowly than it ought to, because, you know, the early church fathers, gee, they wrote this stuff, oh, I don't know, 19 centuries ago. It has existed. It has been part of church tradition.

it is consonant with the scripture. So people need to be clear that these are historical accounts from people who knew Luke or who knew John or who knew. You know, it's fascinating to think of those earliest of early days and what else went on. And we pretend as though, well, we've only got the scriptures. The scripture is the, you know, the anointed, inspired word of God. but we have other historical information. That's why I call it the rest of the story. I mean, when I begin to find out everything that was available,

it simply thrilled my heart. For example, here's something else. This blew me away. The Magi did not come to Bethlehem. They came to Nazareth. It's right there in the pages of Luke. The Bible tells us that when Mary was finished with her days of purification, the Holy Family, all three of them, returned to their house.

house in Nazareth. Well, when you come to Matthew Chapter 2, it says, the wise man came to see the babe, and the word babe, which is used in Matthew Chapter 2 is not the word for an infant. It is the word for a toddler. Jesus was already about two years old by the time that wise Ben showed up. They were looking for a toddler king. I have heard of that. I only heard that in the last few years that

you know, we often conflate these things. We've got the picture of, you know, the manger and the magi and stuff. And we need to be clear, that's not exactly the way it went down, folks. We, they visited him, you know, a couple of years after that. But again, this is, we've heard these things over and over, as you say so often, that it's hard for us to actually, it's very difficult for us to kind of break free of these things. We're so wedded to them. We just got about less than 45 seconds left.

But just tease us with another gem. In that book, I have put a catalog of the gifts that the Magi would have brought to a toddler king. It wasn't just three little boxes of gold, frankincense, and myrr. It took them two years to prepare the gifts. It was a massive catalog that they brought to Jesus because this is the one that Daniel had prophesied about.

This was the great world leader. And when they came, they came fully loaded and brought all the money that the Holy Family would need for their flight into Egypt. I just think it's an amazing story. Well, as I have said a few times, you've really piqued my interest, not just with the title,

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white supremacy and racism in America. Kevin, good to see you again. Brother, Eric, is so great to be here. Thank you for having me again. Well, you and I have met in the San Francisco, in the Bay Area, a number of times when I spoke at Pastor McClure's Church, Calvary, San Jose, and you and Neil Mammon are working together on some stuff. And when I saw you'd written a book on this subject, I thought we've got to get Kevin on here. So how do you pronounce it? It's McGarry. McGarry, yes. McGarry. Okay, so woke up, finally putting an axe to the taproot of war. white supremacy and racism in America.

What do you mean by that? Because I know that you're somebody that doesn't believe that there's such a thing as white supremacy and systemic racism. Or how do you frame it in your book Woked Up? Yeah. So let's talk about that a little bit. So I do believe that there is white supremacy and racism. I do not believe that it's a product of conservatism or religious right or rights.

or right wingers. It is completely, totally, and unequivocally, by definition, a product of leftism, progressivism, and wokeism. And that's not me just trying to disparage the other side. But by definition, I've done the research, folks. By definition, it is such a thing as white supremacy and racism and systemic racism. And it's all progressivism and wokeism as a result. Okay, so help us understand that because that's fascinating. Go ahead. Yeah, it is fascinating. So here's the thing.

I, you know, I'm one of these people that I know you write a lot, Eric, and that, but I'm one of these people that can only write by virtue of divine inspiration. And so I really felt like, you know, I was getting a nudge about writing about wokeism because there's a lot of castigating and finger pointing about racism and systemic racism and white privilege and white Christian nationalism and all of these. And everybody's pointing at these things. And I'm thinking, hmm, I wonder what it would take for me to just kind of do an investigation of wokeism from its roots and try to figure out, well, is it legitimate? Where does it come from?

And so I started with the thought I would do that on Marx because everybody knows that wokeism is born and rooted in Marxism. Okay? That's not even a question or a debate. So I started with Marx and I felt a nudge saying, no, no, no, no, no. Marx had a mentor. somebody tutored Marx and Marx was a protege of someone, find out who that person is and you start there. So I started with Charles Robert Darwin, okay?

Darwin was actually, all of Marx and Engels, all of their early works were fully dedicated to Darwin, okay? To Darwin? I want to be clear when you said that my earpiece was falling out. We're talking about Darwin, Charles Darwin. Charles Darwin. Really being, laying the groundwork for Marx. Absolutely.

And that's unequivocal. I have all the footnotes and all the letters, private letters, and all that. So, Mars and Ingalls, if you look at their other works, it's dedicated to Darwin. Okay. But I mean, it wasn't, didn't the, didn't their book come out in 1848 and Darwin's book comes out in 1859? So you're, yeah. No, so, so Darwin, so a lot of people think that, okay, his published works are one thing. But these scientific communities, they have a lot of prior works that have, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

other collaborations that they're a part of. There's a lot of, before they actually published it works, there's a lot of research and sharing amongst the scientific community. It goes on before the published works. You know how that works. Sure. And so Darwin had a profound impact on Marx and Ingalls. And it's all recorded, and it's all footnote and everything's there.

But here's the point. Darwin in his first work was on natural selection. The subtitle was for the preservation of most favored races. And so I thought, well, that's really peculiar. What did he mean by that? In his second book, The Descent of Man, he goes into a lot of detail. Now, wait, Kevin, say this again, because this is a big deal. People gloss over this.

You just said it. Darwin's book in 1859, give us the full title again, because this is huge. Most people don't know this. Say this again. Yeah, so his book was on natural. selection. Now, the full title was a long subtitle, so I don't know the full long subtitle. But just the part that you quoted. The part that that was interesting for me to really dig into his works was for the preservation of most favored races. Now, what's particularly compelling about that is there was a gentleman in Darwin's

vein of research and scientific knowledge in 1770, that actually was a the first person that fully documented the classification of races. Okay? His name was Johann Frederick Blumenbach. All right. Now, Johann Frederick Blumenbach classified races based on geography. He looked at the seven continents and he looked at the most populated continents and he gave them race classification based on geography strictly, not skin color, not

characteristics, I work, just based on geography. So there were five races that he characterized at that time. Now, and then he also, but one of the final things of, you know, Johann Frederick Blumenbach's work was he had done the cranial research and found that blacks had no cognitive or intellectual incapacities compared to any other ethnicity. That was Johann Frederick Blumenbach. So he was in the exact same vein, exact same scientific community, exact same everything as Darwin.

Darwin came along in the 1800s. Now, Darwin knew of Johan's work, fully rejected it. And he decided instead that he would go down his own line of this whole evolutionary theory natural selection and all this, and that he began to use race classification as more, you know, kind of looking at our immutable characteristics that we show up with, how we present ourselves, right, skin color, and these types of things. In, to further confirm that, in his book, the Descent of Man, Darwin said, look, hey, you know, whites are clearly intellectually superior than any other ethnicity, and we need to protect our pure, you know, genealogy, so to speak.

And we have more, we're certainly much more resourceful, white European, you know, Caucasians are certainly more resourceful compared to any other ethnicity on the earth. So he made a distinction for the first time in human history of white supremacy. He said, we are. Charles Darwin. We are supreme. There was no scientist until Darwin that made such an audacious declaration. Darwin as well went further and said, you know, blacks, they're the perfect example of my evolution, theory of evolution.

They are lower on the evolutionary scale. They're still subhuman, apes, gorillas, and savages. This is directly quoted from Darwin in his book, The Descent of Man. So prior to Darwin doing that, now you and I, Eric, we're men of faith, we're men of God, we understand this, that from the fall of man in the Garden of Eden, we've had all kinds of ethnic strife and tribalism and all of these types of things that went on. So because some people would challenge me, say, wow, well, darn, there was always supremacy. There was always racial hatred.

Okay, well, hold on, hold on. Yes, we had ethnic strife and tribalism in our ancient times. Yes, we had slavery even that was going on while Durham was doing his writing. But here's the thing. People took advantage of people or didn't necessarily trust other people because they were from other ethnic communities. And so they just didn't trust them. They didn't like them.

That's tribalism. That's ethnic right. That's fine. But they had no distinction for white supremacy. They had no distinction for blacks as subhuman. That came from the declaration from a renowned, eluded scientist named Charles Darwin. When Darwin made those declarations, we saw, you know, all kinds of horrible caricatures and tropes being associated with blacks and AIDS and gorillas and those types of things. So we cannot overlook the power of language and especially language that comes from.

a brilliant scientific mind. So with that, we had people be treating blacks and other ethnicities completely different than they would whites. And so white supremacy does exist. Racism absolutely exists. And systemic racism absolutely exists because of we've all been sort of end. indoctrinated to some level with Darwin's works. It's inescapable. K through 16. When we're going to, we've got plenty more time, but I want to say, folks, the book is woked up. Kevin McGarry is the author. And I just want to say, I've said it many times on

this program, that, you know, if you believe in the Bible, the Bible says we're all made in God's image, whatever color, whatever part of the world you're from, you're equal in God's sight. That's what the Bible says. What Darwin did by coming up with the theory of evolution, he says, well, it's all a sliding scale. So some people will be more evolved than others. And he believed that the darker races were less evolved. And so just as we're learning, he opened the door to what we call white supremacy and to scientifically justified racism. We'll be right back. Tell me why Relief Factor is so successful at lowering or eliminating pain. I'm often asked that question just the other night.

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Christian Solidarity, providing life-saving resources for persecuted Christians for almost 40 years, 888-253-3522, or Metaxistalk.com, and click on the Christian Solidarity banner. Give someone the gift of their freedom for Christmas. Thank you. Welcome back. I'm talking to Kevin McGarry. The book is Woked Up, finally putting an axe to the taproot of white supremacy and racism in America. So, Kevin, you're reminding us, and you know, you talk about something important that everyone should know. Charles Darwin was a flat-out racist and white supremacist who used science.

This is the key folks. He used science to justify the idea that some races are superior to others. Now, if you don't believe that we evolved from the apes or that there's a continuum of evolution, you believe that all human beings are equal. Or if you believe in the Bible, all human beings are made in the image of God. We are all in the image of God and we're equal in his sight. But if you believe in Darwin's view that some races would be more, it would be logical if you believe in this. Darwin believed it.

And he uses the words in the title of his famous book, okay, on, what is it, natural selection? Natural selection, yes. And he refers to the preservation of most favored races with the idea being, of course, we don't want to preserve the less favored races, which leads to eugenics and every kind of evil and to murdering the unborn, you know, in black wombs way out of proportion to whites and others. So, Kevin, let's keep going. The book again is Woked Up. What else should we talk about?

So let's talk about you then sort of, you know, you gave us a schematic about, about eugenics. Let's talk about eugenics because literally a lot of people don't realize this. Charles Darwin and his first cousin, Francis Galton, are the fathers of eugenics. Now, what do I mean by that? I mean literally that Francis Galton, Charles, Francis Galton, Charles Darwin's first cousin, younger cousin, was a statistician, a premier statistician. He was incredible. He actually pioneered a lot of modern-day statistics. So here's what Galton did. He was also a researcher. He looked at, you know, whites and their population growth. He looked at all these other ethnicities. And he went to his older cousin and he says, look, Charles, you know, whites are not

going to exist. I mean, we know that, you know, with all of these other ethnicities, overpopulating the planet and overpopulating compared to the reproductive, you know, rates of whites, whites are not going to exist over time unless we come up with some kind of plan to sort of mitigate aid or reduce some of these other overpopulating ethnicities. They literally made up eugenics, which means well-born. It's a Greek term that means well-born out of whole cloth. There was no scientific justification for it. But because Francis Galton and his first cousin, Charles Darwin, were white supremacist and

racist, they made up this concoction called eugenics. And they said, look, if you're not well-born, if you have any kind of hereditary deficiencies, you know, or if you're of another ethnicity, you can be summarily exterminated. Okay? This was the justification for just in case you're wondering. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Lenin, all of them used eugenics and pointed to Charles Darwin. And it's all fully documented. I mean, but the thing is, Kevin, it almost sounds like we're making this up.

I know that what you're saying is true. But the big news is that most people do not know this. You're not hearing this in schools. Listen, folks, you can take whatever point of view you you want, but I'm telling you the facts are the facts. Darwin comes up with this. His first cousin is Francis Galton. If you're worried about, you know, Bill Gates and George Soros wanting to reduce world population today, well, the elites of that day were Charles Darwin, Francis Galton.

And there is no question that Adolf Hitler's racially motivated view of the world, which led to the genocide of the Jews and the killing of millions and millions of Slavs, it was based on this. In the early 20th century, these ideas had congealed. Everybody agreed. Some races are more equal than others to use the George Orwell term. And they were planning to put this into action. Eugenics is just kind of how we were doing it in the United States of America because Margaret Sanger said, you know, we want to get rid of these lower classes, these less wonderful races. We're going to get rid of them. But how are we going to do it? We're not going to do it through genocide like Hitler and Stalin. We're going to use, quote, unquote, scientific methods called eugenics. Yeah, eugenics. When eugenics came to America, they started with sterilization, mass sterilization, mostly of black and others. looked at poor, poor black women primarily. And if anybody recalls that, there was over 6,000 women

that were sterilized in early 60s or mid-60s to late 80s or something like that, or early 80s. Okay, so they were using this methodology, this mindset to do that. Now, when it came then to abortion, which was the other part of the eugenics movement in America, Margaret Sanger says, look, we don't want the word to get out, but we want to fully exterminate the Negro population. Okay. That's a well-known quote. And I'm sure your listeners heard of heard that already. But here's the thing that, here's the takeaway for all people who are, quote, unquote, pro-choice, who are quote-unquote, pro-aboard, who are, quote, and quote, listen, it is unequivocal. You can be all you want pro-choice and pro-abort, but here's the thing that you have to understand. You are, by definition, a white supremacist and racist, and you can't escape it. You cannot escape it. This is why we have abortion. It was literally created by white supremacist. and racist for the purpose of exterminating others because they didn't want it to infringe on their supremacy. This is exactly why. And it's not made up. It's not like, hey, we want to just flip the script and turn back on you and do some ad hominemes.

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Welcome back. I'm talking to the author of Woked Up, finally putting an axe to the taproot of white supremacy and racism in America. Kevin McGarry. So, Kevin, this is real that when we, again, the irony that we're talking about Charles Darwin and the people who used science to justify views of white supremacy. There's no doubt about it that Darwin said what he said. you documented in your book. It's been said other places and people like Margaret Sanger and others took those ideas and said, let's implement these ideas. Let's reduce the population of blacks. Let's reduce those populations so that we can have more whites. I mean, this happened,

and there's still, you know, millions of Americans who would celebrate Margaret Sanger as the champion of women and so on and so forth, the founder of Planned Parenthood. But you've got to deal with this, folks. These are facts. And we want to, just because we don't have that much time left, get to the Marxist part of this. We're dealing with today cultural Marxism, critical race theory, this intersectionality, dividing people into the haves and have-nots, the victims and the oppressors. That's basically Marxism of our day. Exactly. Yeah. So here's what I want everybody to understand. So what Marx and Ingalls did is he took Darwin's work. They put the pedal to the the metal, they incorporated and fully adopted all his theories and mindsets, and then they incorporated

into their economic theories and infused it throughout. The same genocidal despots that gave pretense to Darwin for doing what they were doing to their own populations were also manifestly, you know, lauding Marx and his works and Marxism and all of that. They were communists and all of that, and that's documented as well. So here's the thing. You know, you We talked a little bit about systemic racism and whether it's around today. The perfect example of systemic racism is Planned Parenthood and all of the abortories around the country. They exist primarily to exterminate blacks. It's well documented.

It was Margaret Sanger's business model. And by and large, 90% of all abortuaries in the country are within walking distance of black and brown communities. Folks, if it were not racist, guess what? They would dismantle those and they would put, you know, a Planned Parenthood or other facilities on the back end of every target and Walmart in the country. That's where women congregate, by and large. So all the demographic researchers have been done. Why aren't they doing that? They don't do it because it's specifically targeted to the black community.

Number one. Number two, the other great example of systemic racism is critical race theory. CRT, systemic means, you know, up down and out through and through everybody sort of perpetuating, self-perpetuates an ideology within this sort of. ecosystem of this ideological ecosystem. Critical race theory and all of its theorists, all of us people who purport to support CRT are the perfect example of systemic racism because if you understand what racism is, it's the, you know, recognizing immutable characteristics one to another and then making assessments, negative assessments based on skin color. That's exactly what we do with critical race theory. Now, so if we say critical race theory is racist, and we say then that there's all of the philosophers and teachers and all of those who purport, who continue to sort of fester the CRT mindset, it's the perfect example of systemic racism in action.

So when people ask me today, give me some examples of systemic racism. I say, okay, plan parenthood and critical race theory. And it's inarguable. I shut everybody up with that. because they don't know what to do with it, because we can go through and document facts on that one. So we have a lot of work to do. Now, here's what I want to leave you with. I know we only have a few minutes here. I appreciate you're giving me an opportunity

to come on your show. Here's the thing. If we are sincere about doing something about white supremacy and racism, if we are sincere about making sure that we inculcate our children or insulate them from white supremacy and racism because we, a school board,

members are really sincere. We want to protect your children. Guess what you need to do with your school boards? You need to go there and you say, look, if I were to show up and say, look, all the blacks or brown people in this room were apes, gorillas and savages, you probably have me hauled out. And justifiably so. Well, guess what? My children are being taught this stuff. And they would say, well, where? And then you have the opportunity to take my book out, take the footnotes out, and give it to them a chapter and verse. And so this is what we must do. If we're going to fight back against our school systems, if we're going to fight back and get their Marxism via CRT out of our schools,

then this is the perfect way to do it. And we have now all of the documented facts in order to do it and make it stick. And so I advocate that we must take Darwin, especially his theories, out of our curriculum. Because it is dangerous. It is white supremacist. It is racist. It connotes racism. So we must take it out.

His theories. The science, pretty solid, but his theories were atrocious. I would argue that the science is not pretty solid. And not only is it not pretty solid. But it's so extraordinary to me that people have bought the narrative. In other words, apart from the science, they've bought the narrative itself. So therefore, whether the science is right or not, I mean, because you've got such confusion in the world of the neo-Darwinist. I mean, they're arguing with themselves and they know that we have, you know,

Stephen Jay Gould calls it punctuated evolution. And it's kind of, you know, they know that something's not quite right. But they like the narrative so much that they're kind of like, shut up, shut up, shut up. We're just going to go with this. And it is inevitable, as we've been saying, folks, that if you believe, in this narrative that Darwin has given us, then you have to say, okay, some groups are going to be more evolved than others. That is by definition, racist.

And people need to deal with Charles Darwin, as you've been saying, people need to understand that is who he was, that is what he was pushing. And it's not incidental, Kevin. I mean, he was pushing it, and it caught on, and it's caught on ever since. 30 seconds. And so we're going around the country. we're actually the alternative to anti-racist training and white fragility training. We're doing training and certification going right to the roots of racism and supremacy.

And we're now available to workplaces. Now, when you say that, what's the website before we go? What's the website? It's everyblm.com. Everyblm.com. And you'll be able to see our training resources and all that stuff there. And I mentioned that earlier. You're the founder of Every Black Live Matters.

BLM.com. So I want to send people to everybLM.com. You can find out more about Kevin McGarry there. EverybLM.com. And the book is Woked Up. Kevin, thank you so much. Thank you so much, Eric. Really appreciate it, brother. Folks, we're not making this up. Christmas is a party. Folks, we're not making this up. Christmas is coming. And if you haven't done all your shopping, how can we help you? Well, we've got some kooky ideas. Now before I give you the kooky ideas, let me remind you, SalemNow.com.

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