The Eric Metaxas Show - Kevin Sorbo

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

Actor Kevin Sorbo on appearing in the Reagan Movie and the legacy of Reagan's leadership.

Welcome to the Eric Metaxas show. Would you consider yourself smart, insightful, precocious, astute, clever, wise beyond your years, and good at checking a cesareth for synonyms? Well, then you've come to the right place. Here now is the handsome, attractive, striking, gorgeous, and quite frankly, breathtaking, Eric. Hey there, folks. This is our two, I believe. Yeah, right?

Second one. Typically, it comes after hour one, and that's just where we are. are right now. So in a minute we're talking to the director of the new Reagan movie. Yes. Now, I've got to be clear, I've known about this film for 20 years because my friend, Mark Joseph, is the guy behind it. He's like the producer. And he's been trying to get this made for years. So the fact that it's happening, ladies and gentlemen, this is exciting. And, you know, if you're younger than me, you might not remember Reagan. It's kind of a big deal in It's a labor of love for filmmaker, Mark Joseph.

So we will, anyway, we'll be talking to him in a minute. I wanted before we get to our guest to keep talking about the documentary last night on PBS. This is such a dream come true for me because the story of my friend Marcus metaxus, and again, I'm not related to him, but he's a very good friend. He and his wife, Hetty. I mean, I met them in 1992. and actually, you know what, if you watch the film, I am in the film at a point. There's a shot from 1992.

Really? And I don't even know if people will recognize me. I'm wearing these weird, like blue and white, flowery shorts. That's a dead giveaway. And I have these kind of nerdy glasses on that were really cool in 1992. It's a still photo? But it's a shot. No, I think it's a video.

Maybe it's a, you know, know what, I don't remember, but it's brief. It's only a couple of seconds. But I'm standing next to Youngest's wife, Martine, and one of the kids. They're now like, you know, adults. But yeah, I was like, well, Suzanne, look, that's me. Also, when the central, I was going to say, image of the whole thing is a seal. This is a, in the Mycenaean world, and again, I'm going to be writing about this, but in the Mycenaean world, but in the Mycenaean world, world, they created these little seals that were, that, yeah, but small like a coin. It's like a jewel that it's engraved.

The level of artistry on some of these is insane. Insane. If you think this is a primitive culture, when you see the seals, like how they were able to carve all kinds of stuff, the one in question is not a particularly brilliant example of it. but it's a seal. And anyway, in the film, there's a hand holding up the seal wearing these, like, you know, museum gloves because to hold the side. That's my hand.

So I'm in the film. I'm in the film. You're a hand model. I'm a hand model. Palm olive dude. And my cousin, Yongos, is featured centrally in the film. Yangos, I remember it was 1992. I think I've told the story before.

I was there for a funeral. My uncle, often, my father's brother, who's my cousin, Yangos's father, had just passed away. And the Lord spoke to me in a vision. I don't know if I've told this on the air. I'm not going to get into it. But when I say this, if you know me, I do not. You don't have visions usually. I don't exaggerate.

If I'm talking about a vision, I don't mean sort of a vision. I mean a bad, a bad, a full-on misdust. experience like doesn't happen. And it's a whole story. I will tell that story at some point. Maybe I'll put it in the book, maybe not. But the point is that it was insane. I had been praying with a friend and it's a whole story.

But to cut to the chase, two days later, I'm in Cephalonia for this funeral. And so we were there for just a few days, my dad and I. And I asked my cousin Yangos, out of the blue, it just kind of popped into my head. We were on our family property, which actually you see in the film several times. You won't know that it's that, but I know because I know where it is. And out of the blue, I asked my cousin, again, this is May 92. I said to Yangos, I said, Yangos, you know, I've always wanted to ask, when you read in the Iliad and the Odyssey in Homer's epic, it always says Odysseus and his Kefaleneans.

We know he's from Ithaca, but it says Odysseus and his Kefellinians. And I said, if you know the basics of the island of Kefalonia and Ithaca, whatever, Kefalonia is this jewel. It's this big deal. And Ithaca's a little like nothing. It's like an afterthought. And I thought a Mycenaan king would have to be from Cephalonia.

This is the island with all of the natural resources. It's a little bit closer to the mainland. It's just there's so much there. And I said, isn't it possible? I remember him asking him this in May 92 out of the blue. I said, isn't it possible that, you know, that Odysseus was really from Cephalonia? And my cousin says, oh, yes. And he starts talking about there have been books written.

He starts giving me the background and all this controversy and the theories and whatever. And I had never known that Heinrich Schliemann was able to find Troy. He was able to find Mycini. He was able to find Tirens and Orkomenos and Pilos. And they found all these Mycenaean centers mentioned in the Ili and the Odyssey and Homer, but they found nothing in Ithaca, nothing. So my cousin is telling me, oh, yeah, there are a lot of people that have said that, you know, Homeric Ithaca is actually here in Cephalonia, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And then the punchline. He says, in fact, again, this is May 92. Do the voice. He says, I won't. He says to me that, in fact, a very good friend of mine who lives, you know, 25 minutes down the road here, whose last name is the same as ours, Metaxus, Metaxas, he and his Dutch wife, again, this is May 92, he says they, a year and a half ago, cracked the code using the text of Homer and figured out where Homeric, it's like I really is. and it is in Poros, which is, again, 25, 30 minutes from where we are.

And I said, what are you joking? Like, are you kidding me? I kind of bring this thing up out of the blue, and you're telling me that, oh, yeah, a friend of mine figured it out. He says, yes, using the text of Homer and all of these descriptions of where things are, and again, they get into this in the film on PBS film a little bit. I'm going to get into it more in the book. They figured it out. And then once they figured out where the harbor would have been and where all this stuff had to be, they said, well, it's got to be here someplace. Let's look. And my friend, my dear friend now for 30 plus years, Marcus found the largest Mycenaean-era tomb in Western Greece. Boom, he found it. Like it's so, the whole thing is so insane. When you watch the film, there are things that seem to be coincidences, they are. I have to see God's hand in it because some of it almost doesn't make sense. It's so crazy.

So he finds this tomb. So my cousin says, yeah, they're going to be excavating the tomb this summer. Summer 92. He says, if you want to come back in August or whatever, you could see it. Wow. So I went back in August and I saw, I was one of the first non-archologists to go into this tomb, which we now know is the tomb of Odysseus, the tomb of, I mean, again, folks, I don't expect you to buy this.

Like, you've got to see the film, but you can see it on the people. website. But yesterday, the Wall Street Journal reviewed the film. They gave it a rave review, and they corroborated like, yeah, they found it. This is real. So this is monster stuff. I'm going to be talking about this for the rest of my life. I'm writing a book about it. I want to remind you that, actually, I will put the Wall Street Journal article on my website, Ericmetaxis.com, because I want people to know about this. This is crazy stuff. And this also a big part of it, we talked about this with the director, Seth Ward yesterday, is you realize that these ancient peoples, they weren't blown smoke. Like if they wrote something, whether it's the Bible or it's Homer, they're writing

about a world of reality. They weren't just making stuff up like Tolkien making up Middle Earth. No, no, no. They were writing about a reality. So it's really just very powerful. I'll put the article on my website, ericmataxis.com. Folks, if you're not saying, signed up for my newsletter. My goodness, you're missing a lot of stuff. It's free. We just send it out once or twice a week. All these interviews that we do with the videos are up there. Ericmataxis.com.

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the Reagan movie. Do not go away. We'll be right back. Hey there folks, welcome back. As I promised you, the Reagan film is coming out. And as I promised you, my guest is Sean McNamara, American director, writer, producer of family dramas, including the breakout hit feature film,

Soul Surfer. Sean McNamara is the director on the Reagan film. And hey, guess what? Sean cannot. He cannot be with us today. This is unbelievable. Sean, I don't know what's going on in your life, but you're forcing me now to talk to my friend Kevin Sorbo. I got better things to do than to talk to Kevin Sorbo. Kevin Sorbo, how did this happen? You're in the Reagan film. Am I right? I am, but what's interesting, I also was in the Soul Surfer film. I think that might be the first time I met you was when I took my young daughter to see

Soul Surfer, and you were there. But you're in the Reagan film. So something happened. Sean McNamara, I don't know if he's locked in the bathroom. They can't get him out. And so they said, like, who do we have who's in the Reagan film? My friend Mark Joseph, who I was talking about earlier in the show, he's been behind this film for 20 years, finally got it made.

You're actually in the film. Let me guess. Can I guess? Do you play, be honest. Do you play Margaret Thatcher? I wanted to. I wanted to because with the whole Walt Disney thing going on right now and how they're doing different things with movies, I figured I want a shot at playing that role as well. I think men make fantastic women. I have always seen you as the Iron Lady as Lady Thatcher in my mind, but I guess it didn't work out. Well, then let me just see. If you're not Thatcher, okay, I know you're in the film. correct me if I'm wrong, but you play, do you play Gorbachev?

Are you Gorbachev? Be honest. Do you Gorbachev? No. Another good role that would have been. I would love playing that. Oh, man. I can do a good Russian accent to you.

You're not that sure. You're not. I've met Gorby twice. In fact, I had breakfast with him in Las Vegas. Believe or not. That's another story to tell. Now, wait a second. What?

You had breakfast with Gorbachev in Vegas? I did. And then the two of you and Joe Pesci went out and played around a golf? No, but Sam and I, my beautiful wife, of course, we got a wonderful picture. It's up in our hallway. We have a very confusing hallway for people because I'm pictured with Clinton, with Gore, with Bush, with President Trump, with Gorbachev. People get very confused of where I am politically. Well, since I've never been invited to your home, I wouldn't know about any of this.

And I want you to know, you tell your wife, I'm very bitter. Anytime. I'm very bitter about it. All right, we've got to get serious here. This is, listen, this is exciting to me because I've got a couple of film projects coming out that have taken many, many, many years. When a film project comes out that's taken many years, like this Reagan film, it's more exciting than ever. You can't believe it's finally happening. I am thrilled for my friend Mark Joseph. I'm thrilled for everybody involved.

I know we'll get Sean McNamara, the director on at another time. This is a big deal film, and you are in it. So seriously, what role do you play in this movie? Well, I play his pastor in his earlier years, and here's the thing that happened, and Mark probably won't like me saying this, but I'm not meant in the negative way. They tried to cover his entire life, and that's not easy to do. And I'm sure the first edits were four, four and a half hours long, and they had a cut, cut, cut, cut, cut.

So I played when he was, David Henry plays the younger version of the guy we're talking about. And with Mr. President Reagan. And what happened was, I think they really wanted to get to this stuff with Dennis Quaid, because Dennis Quaid plays in pretty much 30s and on.

And I was, so I lost quite a few of my scenes. I'm only in it for about five minutes, so don't blink. I'm at the very beginning. But I look good. I look good. That's very important. And but so, okay.

Have you seen the movie? No, no, no. This is why I'm so excited because I'm looking forward to seeing the movie. No, it's really good. I really enjoyed it. They finally sent me a screener, so I was able to watch it here at home with my wife. And it's a really good movie. And I got to tell you, Penelope, Ann Miller, who plays Nancy, did a fantastic job.

Really good job. So Dennis Quaid, obviously, is the star of the film. I interviewed him. It was, I guess, in the Nashville area a few months ago about this. We didn't film it. But it's pretty amazing to me that Dennis Quaid has gotten a point in his career where he could pull something like this off. You don't, you know, if you think of him in previous films, you wouldn't think of him as the guy they would pick to play Reagan. but he does a really amazing job.

It's not easy to pull that off when you're playing somebody that some people are familiar with that person and to lose yourself in that role. And you said he plays him from as a young man into older age. So, wow. Yeah, until he passes away. You know, I could be wrong here. I should talk to Dennis about this. But I swear he played President Clinton.

at one time too. And I don't know it was a movie or a miniseries, but I can probably check on his IMDB page, but I think he's played both sides of the aisle now. He's played both sides of the aisle. Well, listen, it's a triumph. I mean, I've obviously seen extensive clips, but it's a big deal. And you and I are both old enough to remember the presidency of Ronald Reagan. And what a revolution it was in this country and how far we have fallen, obviously, since that brief moment in American history. But it's an important story. And younger people don't know the story of Reagan. And so it's very, very important. I mean, you and I are friends with, you know, Pat Boone was close friends with Ronald Reagan. There are people

alive who were central figures in that administration. And it really is vital that we know our recent history. And so, but our friend Mark Joseph, you know, you know, you. talk about a labor of love. I mean, he has been working on this for literally 20 years, ever since I've known him, almost since I've known him. Well, they've been working on forever. There's no question. I think the timing, the timing is great as far as I'm concerned because you got election right on the corner, but they weren't planning it that way. It just worked out that way. And like you said, it's been in the making for a long time. And it shot over quite a few, you know, right over COVID.

It shot out. I mean, it took a long time to sort of get everything put together with it. but it's not a raw, raw, conservative movie. It just shows the life of this man, which I thought was really great. So I hope both sides will take a look at this and learn a little bit. And you mentioned history. They're not teaching history in school anymore. I mean, even when I was in high school, I took Russian studies, I took Far Eastern studies, and I found it fascinating.

And I took American history. They don't teach these things anymore in school because they don't want you, you know, they don't teach civics, as you know, because they don't want people to find out it's we the people. you know, we, it's now we the big government. So what Reagan said, and you know is quote, I'm not going to say word for word, but he said that we're really one generation away from losing our freedom.

Well, here we are. And it's unbelievable that, you know, what he said is true, and it's already here in our good old USA. He also, people don't know this, he also said famously, if a Woodchuck could Chuck Wood, I never remember how the rest of that quote goes,

but that was the Reagan. No, seriously. he's a monster figure in our history, and it's really important. Before I forget to mention it, because I don't think I did, the film opens up in 3,500 theaters, folks. This is a monster opening for a monster film,

August 30th. What is that? In a day? Tomorrow? Tomorrow? It's like tomorrow. Literally tomorrow. Folks, listen, I've said this before.

I'll say it again. When an important film comes out, When a film comes out that is the sort of thing you can take your whole family to. When a film comes out that is pro-faith, that is pro-America, you kind of owe it to your country to see the film, to take your kids, and to do it on the opening weekend. Why? Because that's the way these things work. If it doesn't have a big opening weekend, it may not have a second weekend. And everyone I know who has seen the film has raved about it. So this is something I hope people understand that you have an obligation.

So if you can see this tomorrow night, if you can see this Saturday night, this is a film you can take the kids to. It's fantastic. It stars not just Dennis Quaid and Penelope and Miller, but John Voight. Now, I don't remember who does John Voight play? He's, he's, which Russian guy is he? I'm sorry. I don't have got out here.

I mean, right? It's like, I'm trying to picture this because I've seen, I've seen so many clips, but he is sort of, he's on camera, but he's also the narrator. They show him back when he was younger with Brezhnev and all the other wonderful comrades. And then he's present day, he's talking about the story of Reagan and how Reagan rose to to the level he rose to. And he, I can't remember, I'm sorry, I'm horrible at this. Well, listen, I know your last minute guess. So you're not responsible for any of this information. Yeah, I know. But I was going to say, but look, we'll talk more when we come back.

But folks, this is a big deal. Trust me, I'm good friends with the man behind this film, Mark Joseph, and I am cheering him on. And this has to be a big weekend. So it's all over the country. Make a point. Take your family. Do this.

We'll be right back with more. Don't go away. Welcome back. I'm talking to my friend Kevin Sorbo, who is, in the Reagan film that is coming out this weekend. I said it before. I hope you'll see this. Drag your family.

Make a point. This is important. It's an important film. My friend Mark Joseph has been working for 20 years to make this happen. And God bless him for talk about a labor of love. Now, Kevin, the director of this film is Sean McNamara. He was originally going to be our guest on this. He directed Soul Surfer.

I think that's when I first met you. years ago. That's got to be like, I don't know, it's got to be like 12, 14 years ago, something like that. I think we shot it about, we shot it about 12 years ago and it came out in 2014, I believe, or it came to 2012. It was right around that time. But we shot in Hawaii. Well, I remember my daughter was very young and I was excited to drag her to this. And of course, it seems like five minutes ago. And now it's like a million years ago. But the point is that soul surfer, directed by Sean McNamara, is there's a shark attack in it. Are there, and I just want to simply yes or no answer,

you don't need to go into details. Are there any shark attacks or other animal attacks in the Reagan film opening this weekend? No. All right, I was hoping you would elaborate. I was just saying that. You just said no.

You're sure. Are you sure? I think with the dog in it, maybe, running around. But other than that, it's a pretty, safe movie for kids. So no shark attacks in the film. Folks, Kevin Sore, we trust him. He's a friend. He says no shark attacks.

Ironically, I did talk to Bethany Hamilton just three days ago, who was the real Bethany, we lost to arm and Tiger Shark Attack. And she just had her fourth kid. Whoa. I know. She's been very busy. That's amazing. My goodness. Wow, wow, wow. Okay, well, so the role that you play in the Reagan film

is his pastor when he's a young man. And I baptize him in the movie. You baptized Dennis Quaid as Reagan in the film? Well, it was a younger version of him, played by David Henry. But he was playing the younger lifeguard, you know, because he used to be a lifeguard, Reagan. I'm sure you know that.

Yeah, no, Reagan used to be a lifeguard. And this is part of the thing. This is why I think this is important, because people need to know the story of who was, Ronald Reagan because he is a he's a central figure in American history. He's become a central figure in American history. And his story has a lot to do with faith, but it's not the kind of faith. It's not like he was a, you know, theologically sophisticated Christian, but faith was at the center of his life. And what I think I want my audience to know is that Reagan reintroduced

faith into the center of public life. He was not somebody who was, as I say, theologically sophisticated, but the importance of God in our country, in our being who we are as an American people. He was really a major figure in that, and he opened the door to what is demonized as the religious right. But when Christians finally figured out, oh, yeah, we're supposed to be involved in politics and in electing people who are not trying to dismantle us into a former Soviet Republic, which is what we've become under the current administration. So talk a little bit about Reagan's faith in the film. I mean, you know, you say that you baptize the Reagan, the actor who plays him as a young man. But I, like, I wasn't even aware of that, that

he had been baptized as young man or that faith had been central to him as a very young man before he becomes a famous Hollywood actor who then becomes president. Yeah, I mean, it's in the movie. It's not like in your face. I know people, I don't want to go to the religious movie. You know me. I do a lot of faith-based movies, so to speak. But I do movies that aren't like in your face.

You better believe in God or you're going to hell kind of thing. So it's not that type of movie where it's just really showing that he kept his faith. He kept the strength. He used to be a Democrat like Dennis Miller and like John Boyt. They said they were. Democrats, so they said the party left me. I didn't leave the party. And you know, and everything's shifting more and more of the left. I look at a Bill Maher. Bill Maher is certainly a JFK Democrat. I don't think he's really a Biden Democrat. But you know what? I don't think, I'm going to go

on a limb. I don't think Biden is a Biden Democrat. No, I know. Well, we got Kamala now, too. Hey, I think that Biden and Reagan together should be on Mount Rushmore. What do you think? Oh, there's no doubt that Biden should be on on, on, on Mount Rushmore, if you're out of your head. So look, the faith of Reagan, again, you remember and I remember at least a little bit, that he really was the champion of evangelical Christians, and he was somebody who embraced that. And I think of the irony.

We had Jimmy Carter, who was not a good president and who really made us weak and whatever. He was kind of like the forerunner to Joe Biden. And he was, you know, a Sunday school teaching Christian, but that didn't translate into his presidency. And here you have Reagan, who by no stretch of the imagination, could he be seen as, you know, a Bible-toting, aologically sophisticated Christian. But he was very clear about opening, you know, the, opening the conversation, the cultural conversation up to the values in the heartland of America. And so that's a big part of the Reagan Revolution.

And I know it's got to be in the film. Well, you know, I got to say real quick, my first time I could vote by 1980, it was the first time I could actually vote. It was old enough. I voted for Reagan. And I grew up in Minnesota, which has turned into California, as you know. Yeah. And I grew up with Walter Mondale and Hubert Humphrey, mom and dad, Democrats from, you know,

grew up in Iowa Farms and tried to instill that when four of their five kids. all of us became Republican. Only one brother stayed in the Democrat Party because the rest of us had a lot more common sense. Actually, that happened to a lot of people across the country, and that's why he won by a landslide. We'll be right back for us talking to Kevin Sorbo. The film, you've got to see it this weekend, folks.

It's in 3,500 theaters. It is Reagan. We'll be right back. Welcome back, folks. We're talking to our friend Kevin Sorbo, who is in the Reagan film opening in theaters across the country. like right now, you've got to see it this weekend. Please see it this weekend. Now, Kevin, you know, when we're talking about Reagan, it's a little complicated because he was the champion.

And to some extent, it's like Trump. To some extent, he is the champion of evangelicals, of Christians. But he himself really was not, as I've been saying, theoretically sophisticated. It's kind of confusing. we know that his wife, Nancy Reagan, was a screwball. She was bringing astrologers into the White House. That's the kind of a Christian Nancy Reagan was. She's bringing astrologers into the White House to plan the president's schedule based on his astrology chart. And yet he obviously really loved her. I think if my wife was bringing astrology into the family, I'm going to struggle with that.

But do they cover that? Because his love affair with his wife, it really was central to his life. I mean, his marriage was, by all accounts, you know, a very happy one. Oh, yeah. He had, I think he handwritten many, many, many letters through their long marriage. So, but that, there was no astrology in the, in the movie that I recall whatsoever. I am a Libran, by the way, so I don't know how that figures, but I don't know. Yeah, it's very important that we.

know that you're a Libran. No, it's just so funny to me because I think a lot of times people who love Reagan, they forget this stuff, that it was really screwy. I mean, Nancy Reagan was, you know, she was, I often find myself struggling with the idea that here's this president who really was so wonderful, married to someone that he's deeply in love with who is not that wonderful. I mean, I was never a fan of Nancy Reagan. I have to say she was, you know, that's just one of the problems that she's bringing astrology into the White House. So it's very, very weird. But that was central to his life.

And we have to be clear, it was his second marriage. It was not his first marriage. I forget the name of the woman that he was married to first. Jane Wyman, was something like that? What's that? Jane Wyman. Jane Wyman. Somebody just said into my ear, my producer said into the film, Jane Wyatt.

wrong. Jane Wyatt is a different actress. Jane Wyatt was in many films, and she played the mother in Father Knows Best. She was never married to Ronald Reagan. Jane Wyman was married to Ronald Reagan. And she threw him, like, you know, she divorced him. Yeah. And so that alone, I mean, I wanted to bring this up because it's a scandal. She did vote for him.

What's that? She did vote for him twice, though. She voted for, oh, how nice. So, but honestly, it's just, the reason I bring it up is because it was very controversial at the time in 1980 to, for people of faith to vote for somebody who was divorced, who was remarried, which, of course, today, if you haven't been married three times, we won't even consider you for the presidency. But it's a weird thing that that was, that that was an issue at the time. and, you know, he was not, there were a lot of people that wouldn't vote for him because of how can you vote for somebody who's been divorced and remarried? So obviously, times have changed rather dramatically. Well, I've heard rumors that Bill Clinton cheats at golf, too.

So he's got an interesting pass. So there's all kinds of things. He cheats at golf? Whoa. That's pretty heavy stuff. Well, listen, I think I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to, I want to, uh, you know, exhort people to see the film this weekend, which I'm going to do. I'm excited about it. But since I have you here, Kevin, what is your sense of where we are in the nation with this election?

I mean, it's hard for most people to process that, you know, giggling Hitler or whatever her most recent moniker is, that she could be put up by the Democrats. It seems so insane of all the people that they might have put up for the presidency that they would put up her and that she would pick Tim Walts. I mean, this is as radically left, I mean, no exaggeration, just dramatically radically left. What is your sense of where this goes? Well, it's insane that she can become president. And she has no qualifications whatsoever to become one. The worst vice president, the country has ever, ever had in the history of this nation, someone who can't speak at all.

I mean, if she's not a teleprompter, it's not a teleprompter, the stuff that comes out of her mouth is insane. Here's a woman that was... Well, wait a minute. Before you say that, I just want to be clear, folks, just so we're not being unfair. Kamala Harris does not have a first language. I just want to put that on the table. She has no first language. So you can't say, oh, she's responsible for speaking English.

Well, it's not her first language. She has no first language. But anyway, go ahead. Well, look, when she was running four years ago, she was the first one voted off. She didn't even make it to Iowa. There was over 98% of Americans, Democrats, that didn't want her as president. Now she's a heartbeat away, and now she's actually on the ticket. She never won a delegate.

She's never won anything. She won't take, as you know, she won't take anybody. And she won't have an interview with you. She want to be interviewed with anybody. So I've seen so many interviews with people saying, okay, you're going to vote for her. Why are you voting for her? Well, it would be nice to have a woman president. So that's her qualification because she's a woman.

Give me a policy. Well, I don't know what her policies are. What's a policy? What do you mean? Don't try to confuse me. I don't know what they're voting for. They just voting for a woman. Yeah. Isn't that beautiful? It's so beautiful. Well, honestly, it's a scary thing. And I think what nobody seems to be talking about much is that Joe Biden, we've all seen, I mean, look, you and I, people paying attention have known he has not been president for three years. It's not just that he stole the presidency, but in the White House, he's not.

not running things. Who's running things? We don't know. Then it finally becomes obvious that he's unable to be the guy running things. Now everybody knows, but they don't get rid of him. They just take him off the ticket. He is still on paper the president of the United States. So you kind of think, like, why is he still there? And I would not be at all surprised if they would not have some crisis and they install Kamala Harris. I don't know. I don't know what they're planning. But I don't think, you know, they're not playing by the rules. Let's put it that way. Well, it's like the movie Dave with Kevin Klein, where the president dies and is on life support. And Kevin Klein's character, Dave, is the look-alike. And they put him in the presidency

until they can figure out what to do. So I think that's what we have going on right now. Yeah. It's a whole fucking situation of nobody's leading the country. But we know behind the, behind the curtain, it's a wizard of us. Pay no attention behind the people behind the curtain. It's like you want to say, listen, folks, don't worry. Rest assured that there are incompetent evil people running the country. You don't need to know their names, but just know they're incompetent and they're evil. I want to end on a positive note. I failed.

Actually, no, folks, you've got to see the Reagan film. Kevin Sorbo, thanks for jumping in as our guest. The film opens tonight, tomorrow, this weekend. It is Reagan. I can't wait to see it myself. Kevin, thank you. See the movie. Sorbo Studios.

Hey, folks, before we go for the day, we've got a lot of things, exciting things that we try to mention when we can. We have friends. I've got to ask you, Chris, did you homeschool your kids, any of them? Yeah, in fact, we kicked it off this week. It was like a back-to-school week. So we were homeschooling, but we're also part of a group that meets once a week of other homeschooling kids. Why not just farm it out to the government who can indoctrinate them with Marxist, godless doctrine? I mean, it's free.

They've run out of pronouns. The government's run out of pronouns. The government has finally run out of pronouns. We told you what happened. I told you. Well, if you're interested in homeschooling or if you're interested in quality K-12 Christ-centered education,

we want you to know about our friends at the Herzog Foundation. They are there to help you educate your kids and grandkids in a way that will prevent them from becoming Marxist maniacs. Honestly, this is, very important. Everywhere I go around the country, I meet kids that have had this kind of

education, and they are just head and shoulders above anybody else. So I recommend it highly. Go to HertzogFoundation.com, and they have a website, Reed Lion, R-A-D, readlion.com. Hertzog Foundation.com. Folks, it's time. Hertzog Foundation.com. Actually, we should also mention our friends at the Heritage Foundation. They're the ones. In case he didn't know, you keep hearing about Project 2025, which is awesome. Project 2025, you can find it at 25truth.com. The Kamala Marxist left has been demonizing the Project 2020. Yeah, I think they got scared because they were identifying like...

Because they're going to jail. Well, identifying qualified people that could help jump in with the Trump administration when they need to hire. You know, you hear about the administration and they're still looking to staff. up for programs are doing. And this is a way to kind of help them get up. And they're not interested in hiring Mike Pence. Right. So who are they going to hire?

Well, there's other people. So these guys are helping to find those people in advance, which really saves a lot of time. So 25truth.com is the website. That's the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025. There is great stuff on there. It was on a thread on Twitter some weeks ago that was hilarious stuff. But, you know, how to take our country back to, you know, the founder's vision. So 25truth.com is the website.

That's the Heritage Foundation. And Donald Trump does not endorse this message. It's actually very exciting, very exciting. We should also mention before we go, if you want to buy my books or read what I write or whatever, you can go to ericmataxis.com. There's so much stuff there. I know that some of you are signed up for the email. It's free. Ericmataxis.com.

But we have a lot of stuff we want to share and a lot of new stuff. So that's why I want people to go because we've introduced this thing called the Bonhofer Circle, which is something you can join. I do quarterly phone calls. There's a lot to it.

But it's the Bonhofer Circle. And if you're not signed up at ericomtackis.com, you're just not going to hear about this stuff. It's a new thing. It's really fun. You're not going to hear about the exclusive VIP Bonhofer tour that I'm doing, October 1st through 4th here in New York.

That's actually you can find that at Socrates and the city.com events. That's nuts. I hope we're going to film that so we can share that. That's going to be filmed. With other people. The Greek crews, every day I'm getting more excited about this. We haven't, I think, officially launched it. But it is June 6th through June 16th of next year.

and I just can't get over that we're finally doing this. This is going to be nuts. Chris, you going to be there? Yeah, I'm going to be there. I think we need to do a thing where everyone gets a captain's hat or something. Some kind of swag. It'll be fun. Oh, it's going to be nuts.

It's going to be absolutely nuts. But anyway, all this stuff you can find if you're signed up for the newsletter, ericmetaxis.com. I hope lots of people can come and we can connect. I've never done anything like this before, so I'm excited. about it. Anyway, check it out, Ericmetaxis.com. You get my books there.

Whatever. See you later.