The Eric Metaxas Show - Kevin Sorbo & Marcus Pittman & Laura Klassen
Episode Date: October 31, 2022Kevin Sorbo, along with Marcus Pittman of Loor.TV and Laura Klassen of Choice42.com, dissect their new pro-life animation premiering on Halloween Monday. ...
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Folks, welcome. As far as I know, today's Friday, the 28th of October. Now, for Greeks, October 28th is a very big deal.
But since most of you are not Greek, I'm not going to talk about that.
What I'm going to talk about is very, very exciting.
This is something that is happening on Monday.
I said, we've got to get this on the air today so that everyone who listens to this program
or watches us on Rumble or wherever you watch us, Salem News Channel, that you get the memo
of what is happening on Monday, 8 p.m. Eastern.
this coming Monday, 8 p.m. Eastern, October 31st. And to tell us about that, we have our friend Marcus
Pittman. He has been on the program. He's the CEO of Lour TV, L-O-O-O-R, Lure TV. Marcus Pittman,
welcome back. Thanks for having me on there. Now, normally I just like talk over my guests and stuff.
So I'm just going to pretend I know nothing. Tell us about what is happening on Monday night.
about the video that has blown my mind already because I got a preview of the video.
Tell us what to expect.
Yeah, so basically at Lord, we're building a playground where artists can be artists,
and they can use art to actually change the world in the same way that the Marxists use Hollywood to.
And so what we've done is we've given artists a playground that says,
make what you want.
Just make what you want, and we will support you.
And so that goddess Laura Clausen's project, which is an animated short narrated by Kevin Sorbo of someone's testimony in viewing an abortion, and it's animated by secret Disney and Dreamworks artists.
Okay, wait.
So I always want to underscore these things.
This is a video.
This is an animated video.
I've seen the video.
It is the video of a second trimester abortion that is.
It's animated.
So it's not as graphic as it would be if it were not animated.
The animators behind this, you said, are Disney and Pixar animators.
I heard Disney and DreamWorks.
Dreamworks.
Yeah.
Disney and DreamWorks animated.
These are people who wanted to be a part of this, wanted to be a part of telling the truth about abortion.
And I want to tell you, as somebody who's a long time voice for the unborn, I was myself shocked by this video.
So this is like, you know, guerrilla theater.
This is an amazing thing that you've decided to not just let somebody make this video, but that you want to get it out.
So talk about that.
The idea behind making, this is a very short video, folks.
minutes long. Very powerful. But talk about your thinking, Marcus Pittman, you're behind Lour TV,
O-O-O-R-TV, the thinking behind wanting to get this video out and why Monday night at 8 p.m.
Yeah. So the reason we're doing it is because that's October 31st, that's Reformation Day.
One, we think it's a proper horror film when you watch it. So it makes sense with Halloween.
But also, it's important because that's Reformation Day.
That was the day Martin Luther nailed the 95 feces to the wall.
And the importance of that is, you know, obviously in our theology and justification by faith.
But Martin Luther also was what he did was he brought theology to the artist and allow the artist to use that freedom to be able to reach the common person.
So there's a book called Brandon Luther that talks about this that's really good.
And that expounds on basically the importance of, you know,
you walk into a bookstore during Germany, you could see Martin Luther's brand on the book bindings
and all that sort of stuff. And that really was key in printing music and getting music into the
hands of the people. Those were all influential. And conservatives, we have not brought art to the people.
Yeah. No, no. And you know and I, because we've talked about this before, you know, I agree violently
with everything you're saying and trying to do.
And in writing my own book on Luther,
I read Brand Luther.
And you realize that what happened,
or maybe people don't realize,
but if you read my book,
are you familiar with it,
with the story of what happened?
It was a revolution on many levels.
What Luther did, as you said,
is he used everything.
The same thing happened in the story of William Wilberforce,
William Wilberforce used posters to depict what happened in the slave trade, to bring it alive to people in a way visually that they can for the first time in their lives understand, oh, I never knew what we were doing. I never knew about the slave trade. I never knew the nightmare, reality. Now I see what is happening. That's exactly what you're doing with this video. You're trying to tell people, listen, we can all disagree. We have different points of view.
look at this. Once you know what is happening, we're not exaggerating. We're not exaggerating.
This is the testimony of someone who witnessed with her own eyes something that even to talk about it is
difficult. And you're saying, let's put this out there. But I guess the question, Marcus,
is what has prevented us from doing this in the past? I think two things. One, conservatives are more, more
modernists. So they focus in terms of facts and data. We like our documentaries. We like our talking
had new shows, right? Like we love those things. We have, we have Blaze. We have a daily wire.
They do all these talking had new shows. But when it comes to art and stories, we sort of embraced,
even if we don't believe in postmodernism, we've sort of embraced the idea that, well, art is
postmodern too. And so in that sense, we can't invest in it as art for art sake. So we look at a banana
a duct tape to a wall and a Van Gogh.
And the left says they're equally
valuable pieces of art. So our
capital investors go, well, we're just
not going to invest in art if that's the case.
Right. But instead our capital investors,
our conservatives need to take risk and go, no,
that Van Gogh is obviously, you know, more
valuable as a painting, as a piece of work
than what the left describes to
banana on a duct tape wall. And I think, you know,
we're not postmodernness, but we sort of let
them run. And obviously, the
left our postmodern and they don't care. And so they're like, we'll just milk, we'll just milk money
from people and say, you know, we'll turn art into a money laundering scheme. But art is valuable,
even in scripture, narrative and storytelling is how God tells us what to do as a society.
Well, it's all through them. I mean, it's not like I planned this, but when I, when I wrote my book
on Luther and I wrote my book on Wilberforce, you know, I discovered what you were saying in both of those
stories. And I mentioned before Wilberforce, people don't understand. It's kind of like it's a,
the parallels with the abortion thing are so dramatic. If you read my book on Wilberforce,
you can't help but see the parallels that he's fighting an evil. Most people in his time
were unaware of the evil. They bought the narrative that this is something happening far away.
There's nothing I can do about it. It's a necessary evil.
evil, they would shrug. He educated the populace of England using culture, using the arts. So people,
you're right, that people, conservatives usually we deal with data, we deal with politics.
Culture, we often abandon to the left, culture and the arts. We abandon, we abdicate to the left.
You at Lord TV, and in this video particularly, you're saying, no, we're going to use art. We're
use animation to tell the story of what happens in an abortion. And if you're okay with this,
folks, you know, you would, you'd have to, I don't know anybody. I don't know anybody who when
they see this video would say, you know what, I'm okay with that. That's happening. It's legal.
It needs to happen. I don't know anybody, anybody who watches this video. I don't care how pro
choice you think you are. That's why this video has to be, it has to get out. You've got to send it
to your pro-choice friends. And I mean this sincerely, folks, you've got to get this out and say,
what do you think of this? What do you make of this? When we come back, we're talking more.
This video is dropping 8 p.m. Monday night, October 31st. And I want to talk further to Marcus Pippman.
Sorbo does the voiceover. We'll be right back.
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Folks, welcome back to the Ericman Taxes Show.
We're talking a day, Friday, October 28th, about what is going to happen on Monday.
I just found out about this, and I said, I want to get this on the air, ASAP, so everybody in my audience is prepared for what's going to happen Monday night. I think this is historic. I think this is vital. I'm talking to Marcus Pittman, who's the CEO of Lour TV, L-O-O-R-TV. And Marcus, I want to ask you, when you guys made this video, when you enabled this to happen, we have the voice of Kevin Sorbo. He's going to be on this program in a couple of
minutes. Kevin Sorbo, Hercules, many people know him from all kinds of things. God is not dead.
But Kevin Sorbo is the voice of the narrator on this short four-minute video, the maker of this
video, Laura Kloss, and she'll be on this program in a couple of minutes. But while I have you,
Marcus, I just want to ask you, what do people do Monday at 8 o'clock Eastern time? How do they
access this? Where can they find it? How can they share it? Yeah. So,
it's going to be obviously on Facebook and YouTube and every streaming platform, I mean, every social media platform, as long as they'll have us, as long as they'll let it be up there. It'll be on lore.com. So if you go to L-O-O-R. TV, it'll be up there and we'll be working all day, make sure that everything stays up and is running so you can always go there.
Okay. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to blast this out. I'll do what I can on social media and with my emails and things.
Yeah, we'll give you a copy of it.
We'll give you a copy of it.
You can just post it.
Yeah, where we want.
Well, that would, that would be great.
We want as many influencers as possible to share this all at once, you know, just like we,
like, just like fire festival, except without the disaster.
Well, but, and so what is, what was your hope in, in launching this video?
What do you think can happen?
I want to show, I mean, for me as a CEO of a company, there's, I have a different
alternatives, motives.
but one, I want people to, you know, see this as, you know, Till, right?
Right, that photo, that image of Till, they're making a movie about that coming out.
Well, no, explain that.
So, yeah, so he was, he was lynched and his face was beaten to where.
What year?
I'm not exactly sure.
But Jet Magazine published it.
And when Jet Magazine published it, that sent a message to people, really, that lynching was not okay.
And it has a stop.
So let's be clear.
folks, we're talking about Emmett Till.
This was, I think it was 1954, but he was a young black man.
How old was he? He was very young.
He was just a teenager, I believe.
I believe he was like 14 or 15 years old.
And this is a black, a young black man, very young, almost still a boy.
And somehow he was accused in the 50s, in the South.
of whistling at a white woman, he was murdered. He was lynched. Emmett Till was lynched.
And so the image of his brutalized body was published. You just said that. And it led to a national
awakening that this is what we have countenanced. We have allowed this to happen in our America.
And it woke a lot of people up. And you're saying you think that this video
can be like that.
Yeah, I think so.
I think it will be like that.
I think it'll send a shockwave to people right before the election, which is really good,
although Lorke Clausen's Canadian.
So it's not the same for her coming up.
But I think that values there.
But also, too, I want people, especially capital-minded investors, conservatives,
who want to fight Marxism to see this is what happens when you free artists.
This is valuable.
And what we're doing and what we're building here is important.
Well, it is, it is important. I'm seeing this happening more and more. There's a trend that conservatives and Christians are beginning to figure out we need to get involved in the arts. We need to get involved in the picture. I mentioned before that in my book on Wilberforce, I published in the book, the image of a poster that was created.
of a slave ship and of the condition. It's so brutal. I didn't want to talk about it. It's so horrifying
when I looked at this poster. But this image affected the people in England. They would see the
image. You didn't need to be a big reader. You didn't need to be. You just looked at the image and you
understood the evil of the slave trade. Suddenly you got it. And you said, wow, we are allowing this.
our government is allowing this, we need to raise our voices and say, no, this is not okay.
And so when we're talking about second trimester abortions, most people in America,
and I want to give grace to people on the other side of this issue, and to know that,
to say that most of them, and I know this is true, most of them absolutely have no idea
what they are saying is okay.
When they say, oh, I'm for the woman choose.
they have no idea the reality behind it.
When you start seeing the reality behind it, you can't help but change your position.
There's just no way around it when you see the reality of it.
But we're living in a world where people don't see the reality because the left has
controlled the narrative.
Our artists have only been able to go to the left if they want to have expression,
whatever.
People on the right, as you've said, have really just not understood this.
So this is a huge thing that you're doing with Lord TV and with this video.
I'm really, I'm hopeful that there's a pastor in the woodlands in Houston who has been putting out billboards with a baby.
And I even know who the baby is, just this baby, this beautiful baby.
And it talks the video, I'm sorry, the video, the poster, the billboard is a person.
about do you think she matters? Do you think this child matters? You know, if so, vote for life.
Choose, you know, when you vote, think about where your candidate stands on this issue. And I believe
this video that you are bringing to the world on Monday 8 p.m., this is going to change votes,
folks, because when you understand when a politician says, we are, I'm for the woman's right,
I'm for the way and you're going to say, oh, you're for this?
Have you seen the video?
It's four minutes.
Watch the video.
Have you seen this?
Are you for this?
This.
Can you get behind this?
This, ladies and gentlemen, this is reality.
This is not made up reality.
This is not somebody screaming their point of view.
It's like, just watch the reality.
This is a video made by a woman about a real experience that happened to another woman,
uh, watching the abortion of another woman.
the murder of a little girl.
When you see this, I don't know how you can go back.
And that's the point is that I wanted to get this video out.
I want my audience to be primed to get this video out to anyone you know who's on the fence,
anyone you know who would vote for someone who is pro-abortion.
So how can people share this video, Marcus, when this comes out.
It'll be on Laura Clausen's page.
It'll be on more TV's page.
It'll be on your Facebook page.
Just go and share the video.
That's what we want.
We want to show that we can come together and we can share art and we can make.
We want to be water.
You know, the CEO of HBO said he doesn't care how many people watch Game of Thrones.
He cares how many people talk about Game of Thrones, right?
Like that's more important.
That's always been more important to HBO is to be the center of the water cooler conversation.
And conservatives, we don't have that.
And so we want to show people, one, this is important.
It can change votes and all these sort of things.
And we want to show that, look, we're on the groundwork.
We're on the ground level.
We're freeing artists and tell stories that no one in Christian media will let be told.
No one in liberal media will be told.
Did I just get?
What's that?
Am I still there?
Sorry.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, sure.
Okay.
So that's what we want to do.
We're building a platform where artists are free.
This started when Laura Clausen, when I told her, I said,
if you could make anything you wanted, what would that be?
And this is what came out of that conversation.
And no one's telling artists that anymore.
No one's, you know, algorithms are determining the liberals movies and plot points
and those sort of things, right?
And we're coming in and saying, you can make whatever you want.
Isn't it amazing to you that a video like this hasn't been made before?
I mean, this has been going on for decades and decades,
and the idea that a video like this has not been made before,
it's almost amazing to me.
Yeah, you know, it's incredible.
But I just don't think there's a marketplace for conservatives to be risk takers with our art.
We're building that we like to say we're building the MTV of conservative entertainment.
We're building that adult swim experimental art house.
and this is what happens when you have that.
This is what happens when you don't analyze every comedian's jokes before the show comes out.
You know, when you don't have networks overseeing the artists and giving them freedom.
That's how HBO was built.
It's how MTV was built.
It's how Cartoon Network and all these major brands.
I'm just thrilled.
You know that since I met you like a year ago, what you guys are doing is amazing.
Ladies and gentlemen, we will be back with Kevin Sorbo, who is the narrator of this video.
and Laura Clausen, who made this video that launches next week. I want to remind you, we need your help
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Folks, welcome back.
I told you a moment ago about the video that's launching Monday, October 31st, Reformation Day, 8 p.m.
It's going to be everywhere, and we want your help in spreading this video everywhere.
It is about a second trimester abortion.
It's a four-minute video.
It's an animation told from the point of view of the woman who inadvertently found herself
involved in an ultrasound technician.
This is like a nightmare story.
They somehow got Kevin Sorbo to be.
the narrator and I thought hey maybe Kevin will come on this program and talk about it Kevin my friend
welcome it's good to be here and I got to tell you it was a male technician not a female oh it was
it was it was it was otherwise I think they've got a woman's voice to do this you know what that makes
sense yeah in today's world who knows right yeah you you um I mean yeah of course that makes sense
it is it's an amazing story to me because it's true.
And when I watched it, you know, I previewed it and I said, I don't know how anybody,
anybody, I don't care how pro choice you think you are.
If you dare to watch this video, which by the way, let's say very clearly,
ladies and gentlemen, this is not a sensationalistic video.
This is not a video meant to horrify you or,
It's simply telling the truth.
When you watch it, you'll see that it's very, very, very basic.
It simply goes through the reality of what this technician saw with his own eyes.
So, Kevin, how did you come into this project?
And what did you think when you were presented with this?
Well, I do a lot of pro-life speaking across the country.
In fact, I just came back from one in beautiful Ontario, California.
Thank God I got to land on Ontario Airport.
not LAX because you know that
wonderful LAX airport is.
And I screened it.
They let me screen it for the people.
I spoke around 800 people.
And I was very, I told them ahead of time, guys,
you may not want to watch this,
but you're all here to support pro-life.
It's very graphic.
This is the first time anybody seen it
outside of the group of people put this together.
Erica, I said, when I did this,
people were weeping.
People were crying.
I looked around the audience.
As I was standing on the podium,
what's going on. And I saw men, women, just looking out the ground. They couldn't watch it.
Because what it is, it's this guy's word, word for word. I was his voice. He doesn't want to come out
and let people know he is because he'll get attacked for telling the truth, right? You and I already
get attacked. So I don't care anymore. And I want to protect this guy. But everything you see in a video
is what he saw the baby doing when it was being ripped apart limb by limb, limb by limb. And I agree with
you. How people can look at this and not be affected by it? They have.
have, and we have plenty of people who have no heart or soul or any kind of moral conscious.
So they'll probably think it's just funny and laugh because they're sick, sick people.
But anybody that's really is pro-choice that has a heart and soul, I think they're going to
change their mind when they see this going on.
And the godsend of ultrasound, by the way, of the 100% of people going to these clinics
to get an abortion, 80% change their mind the minute they hear that heartbeat, the minute they
see that baby inside their wound.
So here's the only place for it.
So far I'm finding science to make sense to me compared to the Fauci science of the world.
Well, this is, I mean, look, you know, I'm always referencing my books because that's all that's in my brain.
My last book is atheism dead.
When I look at the science, you realize, ladies and gentlemen, the science, it's a, it's a stack deck.
God created reality.
He created the universe.
If you study science honestly, it always points to God.
It always points to God's truth.
There's no way around it.
It always will do that.
And the better science gets, the more we can see the truth.
So the story of abortion is the story of the more science has revealed about what is in the
woman's womb, the more obvious it becomes to people like, oh, oh, I didn't know.
I had no idea.
I thought it was like, you know, a bunch of clay, a bunch of nothing.
But now that I see it, I think, oh, no, that was a baby.
That was a baby. Even back then, that was a baby. And I was once like that. This has become more and more real. And the technology we have today, the sonograms that we have today, I think it is making it increasingly difficult for people to have this pro-abortion stance because once you've seen it, you cannot unsee it. And that's the question, Kevin, is how do we get people that are on the fence to watch this video? Because once they see it, I'm telling you, folks, it's game over. If somebody has a heart and soul, Kevin,
just said it. When they see this, everything changes. You cannot unsee what you saw,
and it's not meant to be sensational. This is the truth. This is what happened.
Like I said, it's word for word what this guy went to. And I was just his voice in this.
But how do you get people to see it? Get schools to finally show it. I mean, we got to break down
the ridiculous sense of our public school system in our universities. We've had three generations now.
We've had, you know, 50 years of people brainwashed thinking that it's as normal as doing, you know,
getting a, taking a vitamin or taking something for a common cold.
And unfortunately, that's not the case.
This is a human being.
The my body, my choice mentality is insane because it's not your body.
Because if that was your body, you'd be dead.
So these people, you see it.
You've seen the people, the pro-choice people.
I call pro-murder because what is the choice, life or death.
When they march on Washington, D.C., you see how violent they are, how angry they are.
And then you see the 108-degree opposite of the people that are.
are pro lifers. They've marched on the street and they're singing. It's a whole different thing.
And we got a craziness. We got a very satanic movement within our country right now. And it's just sad to see it going on.
Well, there's a clarification happening. I think, again, most people that are kind of on the fence,
if you look at what has happened to the pro-abortion movement, it has become increasingly sick and violent and weird and angry.
And I think that says everything.
We're going to be right back, folks.
We're talking to Kevin Sorbo.
The film launches Monday night, October 31st, 8 p.m.
We want everyone to share it.
Share it with your neighbors, with your pro-choice friends.
We'll be right back.
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This is a special show today, Friday, October 28th, where I want to get the word out about what
is happening Monday at 8 p.m. That's October 31st Reformation Day to get the word out about a
video that has been made. It's a short video. It's a powerful video. It's not sensationalistic.
That's what makes it the more horrifying is it's a very simple step-by-step narration of what happened.
So we've been talking to our friend Kevin Sorbo, who's the voice of the narrator on this.
But we wanted the woman who made the video to come on. And we have her on now. Laura Cawson, welcome to this program.
Hi, thank you so much. Thanks for having me.
Well, listen, I'm just so thrilled to see this happening. I knew it was only a matter of time.
When the truth begins to get out, things are going to change. Hearts and minds are going to change.
What prompted you, Laura, to make this extraordinary video?
Well, I run an anti-abortion organization, and I'm often very frustrated just by the fact that people won't address abortion for what it actually is.
And so I thought, well, let's just show it.
And that's what prompted the whole thing.
Well, what's amazing to me, I was saying this to Kevin,
and I was saying this to Marcus Pittman,
isn't it kind of amazing that this hasn't been told before,
that videos like this haven't been made before?
It's kind of amazing to me because it's pretty basic what you show in this animation.
And folks, this is an animation.
It's an animation.
In this short four-minute video, what you're showing is happening every single day in Canada, in the United States.
This is happening every single day and nobody knows about it.
What do you make of the fact that it took you to make this video?
Yeah, it is surprising that the information is not more known in one sense because it is happening so much.
It's so awful.
And so, of course, the whole pro-abortion movement.
and the government that supports abortion and all of the mainstream media people,
of course they don't want you to know what this is.
How did you come in contact with the person who tells the story?
This man who a number of years ago was just dragooned into suddenly being there in the room
as an ultrasound technician.
And to his complete horror, he watched with his own eyes something that he,
He, like so many people, he had no clue that this is happening.
Nobody could believe it until you see it.
So how did you find him or did he find you?
How did that work?
Well, I actually made a post online asking people,
if you are a medical professional who has been involved with abortion,
can you message me and just share your story?
And I got a lot of responses.
And it was interesting because a lot of them were so similar in a sense.
just the reaction of these people.
There were a lot of people who threw up after.
But this guy was just one of the people that messaged me.
And when I read his story, I started chatting with him a bit and asking more questions
and then came up with the idea of making it into a video.
Well, it's interesting what you say that a lot of people,
in other words, a lot of people in the medical industry,
when they get near the nightmare of the taking of a life in the womb, when they see it,
many of them throw up.
It is so horrifying that you cannot help viscerally be repulsed on that level.
And that was my impression as I watched.
And folks, again, this is an animation.
This is nothing like the horror of the real thing.
But it is just, it's an astonishing thing.
even if you like me are pro-life, when you actually see what is happening, you just know, I've got to share this.
I have got to share this because I know most people who say they're pro-choice, if they dare to watch this four-minute video, they will not be the same person after they see the video.
So Laura, I'm just so proud of you for thinking about doing this and actually getting it done, Lure TV and Kevin.
And what is your hope in terms of getting this out on Monday?
My hope is that people watch it and share it a lot before it gets censored and removed from social media.
And my hope is that because I'm sure the reaction of a lot of people is going to be like, this isn't true.
But just go ahead and do your own research.
And I was even looking recently at some of the clinics in my area in Toronto and just seeing the procedures
that they advertise on their websites.
And this is one of the ones that they advertise.
Folks, I got to tell you,
if you're in a swing state in the United States of America,
you need to let everyone you know
who is voting for a pro-abortion candidate.
Send this video to them.
Send this if you're in Pennsylvania,
the guy running for governor,
Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania,
Carl Rove, the traitor bum, Carl Rove, who's supporting Josh Shapiro against the pro-life, Doug Mastriano.
People like Josh Shapiro and innumerable others who would be elected, tell the people who are thinking of voting for them,
please watch this video.
Do you understand that the candidate you're going to vote for is for this?
how can you morally support this?
Folks, we're in a battle.
And when people see this video,
it's going to change things.
It's amazing it's taken to 2022
for us to get the word out about this.
But we need to help. Kevin, go ahead.
Eric, I got thrilled to send there.
And you know, I did a movies called What If and God's Not Dead?
Very popular movies.
Well, they did a movie called Unplanned with Abby Johnson.
And she witnessed this as well.
And the ratings board in California for movies
gave it an R rating because they even,
even admit themselves that it's a horrific, horrible act.
So it's slapped our rating on it because they don't want people to see this.
They don't want the truth out there, as you know.
They hate the truth.
They love the darkness.
And we're going to shine the light on the abortion issue right now with this documentary
that Laura put together with their team more because we need to shine the light on the evil
what's going on within our hospitals and within planned parents and many other clinics.
Laura, final 10 seconds, 15 seconds.
what can we say?
Abortions murder.
Watch this.
Share it. Do something.
Let's start it now.
I'm just, I'm so grateful to you, Laura and Kevin.
Ladies and gentlemen, you need to get involved.
You need to share this with anyone you know who is on the fence,
who doesn't know what they think about abortion.
You say, well, what do you look at this?
I think we will change the hearts and minds of millions and millions
of people. Stay tuned. We'll be right back. Thanks.
My goodness, I am so excited. We have much more coming up on the program today, but I want
to remind you, folks, we've just got a couple of days left in our campaign. We haven't even
reached half of our goal for our campaign with the Alliance to Defending Freedom.
And so I just want to ask you in our final days, if you haven't given it.
would you please give? Would you please go to metaxis talk.com, click on the ADF banner.
Some of you know the background here, what it is that ADF does. Now, for the past 10 years,
Jack Phillips, he's the Denver area baker, okay, he has been under brutal attack, legal attack.
This is a baker, okay, who's going through hell. Why? Because he has values. He has Christian beliefs,
and he says, you know, I can't bake a cake or create something that celebrates something that I don't agree with.
Now, in America, most of us would say, yeah, this is America.
But people are challenging that.
People are challenging religious liberty.
They sneer at it.
They're like, shut up, you'll do what you're told.
They don't seem to understand that we live in a free country.
And so where does somebody like Jack Phillips go?
And he's one story, okay?
Where does he go?
He goes to the lines defending freedom.
So ADF goes up to bat.
they win a major case at the U.S. Supreme Court on his behalf. Okay. They do this. How do they do this?
Well, through generous donations from folks like you, okay. But now there's another lawsuit against Jack Phillips,
because these people are relentless. They're trying to force him to create a cake celebrating.
You ready for this? The seventh anniversary of his transition from a man to a woman.
some guys transition. It's been seven years. He wants to celebrate it. Now, of course, they're playing a game. They're doing this just to force people like Jack Phillips and like you and me to abandon our beliefs. All right. So this is, many other bakers would be willing to bake this cake. So Jack Phillips is saying, well, so why are you insisting that I bake it? It's a free country. Find somebody who wants to do it. So let's play the clip that Jack Phillips has recorded.
You know, I don't know the motivation, but the Constitution clearly protects my right.
Colorado is trying to take away the right for me to decide which messages I create and which messages I declined to create.
And again, I serve everybody. I will serve everybody, but I can't make every cake and promote every message in Colorado just wants to change that.
Folks, it's amazing. This is 10 years of legal harassment, okay, that's happened to Jack Phillips.
He's a baker. Do you understand this guy, he's not an activist. He's not in the public eye.
He's a guy plying his trade.
People have come after him.
So if it can happen to him, it can happen to you.
It will happen to many of you listening to me right now.
And so that's why we need to fight now.
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Yes, and let me jump in here, Eric.
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