The Eric Metaxas Show - Kimberly Ells

Episode Date: March 10, 2023

Kimberly Ells stops by the studio before speaking at the U.N. about research found in her book, "The Invincible Family: Why the Global Campaign to Crush Motherhood and Fatherhood Can't Win."

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January 6 footage, blah, blah, blah, blah. Let me say, my guest today is a hero. name is Kimberly Ells. She's written a book about, really, it's this globalist agenda to destroy the family and motherhood. And, you know, it sounds like something in the future. Wait till you hear my conversation with her. And, you know, I often say, or people ask me inevitably, endlessly, what can I do?

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The family's been under attack. And we haven't talked about that very much. We talk about it obliquely. But I'm holding in my hands here a book called The Invincible Family, why the global campaign to crush motherhood and fatherhood can't win. The author is Kimberly Ells, and she is my guest right now. Kimberly, welcome. Thank you for having me.

Listen, you've written a book about this, but I just, when I saw the book, I thought, we have to have somebody who's an expert on this talk about it. you're in New York, you're at the UN this week for some, what is going on at the UN that brings you here. It's the commission on the status of women, which happens every spring in New York where the women of the world converge and talk about women's issues. So it's not yet about birthing persons. It's still about women. So there's hope, ladies and gentlemen. So far.

Yeah, there's still hope. Isn't that amazing, like that we even have to, like, joke about that? you've been writing on family issues and, you know, for a while working for our friends at the Federalist, Town Hall, LifeSight News, Epic Times. This is something that is important to you. It seems to me, not least, because you're married and the mother of five children. That's right. Right. So, but how did you find your way into the subject that you would be writing about it?

I mean, there's a lot to write about and it really is under attack. But what was your path into that? Well, it happened somewhat accidentally. So what happened, what precipitated me becoming interested in this sphere at all, other than being mom, of course, was one day it was actually 10 years ago. I found some information online. I was doing some other study, and I ran across a document that was just utterly shocking to me. And what it was was a document created by International Planned Parenthood Federation. And it was talking about the sexual rights of children.

sexual rights for youth. Okay, pause. Ladies and gentlemen, you're not having trouble with your radio set. You just heard that. There are times I just have to say, excuse me, what? You know, you hear this, and you're saying this was 10 years ago. Right. And who was this again?

Who posted this? International Planned Parenthood Federation. Talking about the sexual rights of children. That's just diabolical. So please continue. So that's the reaction that I had. I thought, wait, what? I didn't know this would be out there.

It was easily findable. It was one of their public documents. It's called the Exclaimed document. And as I read it, you know, it's very beautifully done, and it talks about these 10 principles of sexual rights for youth. And I thought, this can't be real, but I discovered that it was. And so then I thought, well, if it's real, I'm going to fight it. I'm going to spend the rest of my life, if need be, of fighting this agenda.

And so what happened from there is I somewhat quickly, and miraculously, by the grace of God, got involved with an organization that had been fighting this very issue, the children's sexual rights issue at the United Nations for several years. And so I felt like I'd found my calling and was able to join forces with them. And I've spent the last 10 years studying this, learning about it, attending the UN, and seeing for myself how this agenda is being pushed forward. I mean, we have to go to the heart of it. This is Planned Parenthood pushing this. So anybody, um, misinformed enough at this point to think that Planned Parenthood is just trying to help women or whatever. They're pushing an agenda that does not just include at its center killing children in the womb. It is about an entire sexual revolution to upend what I and most people would see as God's natural order and his plan for families and children. but it becomes clearly diabolical when they're talking about children in a sexual way. But of course that's where it goes.

It takes time. It's taken decades. They wouldn't have dared said this, you know, 10 years before. But suddenly 10 years ago, boop, there it is, on their website. And what interests me is that they're banking on the idea that they have enough capital with the people who believe in Planned Parenthood, that they can float this and not get any blowback. Right. And what I've discovered is it's been going on even much longer than 10 years ago.

Like one of the documents that the World Health Organization created in 1975 claims to have put in their definition of sexual health even then that sexual pleasure is a right. Now, in that document that didn't say for youth, so let me give you an example from the document that I discovered. So one of their quotes is that they say, sexuality and sexual pleasure are important parts of being human for everyone, no matter what age, no matter if you want to be married or not, and no matter if you want to have children or not.

And then they go on and they say governments and leaders have a responsibility to protect and fulfill all sexual rights for everyone. And you hear in there, there's no limitations on age. In fact, they say at all stages of life and for everyone. That doesn't leave anybody out. And what I found is it's specifically aimed at youth. It's their targeting youth, and they say that they do that on purpose, because if you, you know, influence someone in their youth, you influence them for their lifetime. Well, let's start with just with the title of your book. The book is The Invincible Family, Why the Global Campaign to Crush Motherhood and Fatherhood Can't Win.

So why do you say that it can't win? Well, that goes to the second piece of the book. So the first thing that brought me to the table was the Children's Sexual Rights Campaign, which I found very disturbing. And as a mom, excuse me, of several kids, I've come to believe that that womanhood, that motherhood specifically is the most powerful position in the world. And I have reasons for saying that. And so what came to my mind is, so if you are aiming sex at children, you're essentially placing a bomb at the genesis of the family.

because sex is what creates families. It's what creates human life. And it's a gift from God and it's created by God for good to bring his children to earth, to live. But if you teach a person in their youth that sex is simply their right, that they have a human right to experience sexual pleasure, apart from really any responsibility or intention, you've set a bomb at the feet of the family and you've set a person on a path that, of course, not true and going to lead them to a great deal of personal pain and heartache, but you're also

working to obliterate the family as the very core of civilization, which it is. Well, you see, I want to just, you know, add to that just so people are tracking. Part of the deep, deep, deep dysfunction in our culture, this is going back to the 60s ultimately. In other words, it goes way before that, but it began in the 60s. It's the redefinition of sex. When people talk about your sex life, and you think, what is that? In other words, there was a time, it was from the beginning of time until recently, that there was really almost no such thing as sex. There was marriage.

And then in marriage, the physical expression of love, which led to pleasure and children and family was sex. But something happened where people with a completely different agenda, different theology, different view of the human person said, we want to pull this out and away from God's design. And, of course, they've been working on that for a long, long time. And, you know, you have Margaret Sanger and others, this is going, going way back. But it didn't really enter mainstream American culture till the 60s. I notice on the back of your book, you have Encomia from Mary. Mary Eberstadt, Jennifer Robach Morris, who were heroic in this world. But, you know, Mary Eversstadt, when she writes about, you know, the pill,

that this technology came into the world in 1961, whatever it was, that suddenly made it possible to divorce sex from children and family. And that's where it began. And we now have a number of generations that really don't see this whole. holistically. They, when they, they think about sex as this other thing. So it becomes merely, it's like a sneeze. It's, it's nothing to do with the heart of it, which is bringing human beings into the world. Right. And they've been quite successful at putting that version of, that ideology forward. And what's interesting? So in my study for the book, I ran across the

writings of feminists from the early 1970s, Shalama the Firestone. And she's, She came up with a very similar thesis to mine, but she comes at it from the opposite angle. So my belief, kind of the genesis of part of the book, is that when a baby is born, it belongs to somebody. And it's always a mother. It's always a woman. Like when a baby is born, there's really no debate over whose baby it is. And so that's significant. We kind of take that for granted.

But God did it that way on purpose so that there would be private belief. belonging. And so the whole system of life is based on private belonging. So there's this kind of constant debate going in the world of should there be collectivism or should there be, you know, privatization. And this is what wars are fought over and over again. And, but if you look at it closely at the anatomy that God has created, he's already decreed that privatization wins. Because it wins every time a child is born because the baby belongs privately to the woman. And hopefully, in tandem with the man. Always there's a father involved,

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She said, she said the reason why socialism has not worked so far, either on the micro or the macro level, she pinpointed it. She said that's because we haven't been able to eliminate the belonging of certain babies to certain mothers. And she said, as long as we have natural childbirth methods where a mother is pregnant, births the baby, and then it belongs to her. She says, as long as we have that, socialism can never be fully enacted. See, I've never heard that. That's really interesting because that makes sense. It's so foundational that, yeah, if somebody wants to redefine all of reality and say, okay, it's going to be collective now.

All children belong to the state. The problem is that because of God's design, almost all mothers will have this deep, deep, deep connection to the child that they gave birth to. And there's really no way around that. Right. and that's intentional. That's God's design. There's just no way around it. So it creates private belonging, first of all,

and then it puts children who are helpless in the care of other people, their parents. And then what usually happens is in caring for someone else. You love them. Like there's an inherent love that usually comes when a baby is born, but then as you serve your child,

which is demanded upon you day after day as parents, that's where the love begins to happen. And so it puts the world on a track to love. And really, through the anatomy that God has designed, the world is established on the love of mothers and fathers. And it's interesting because Firestone also said, she said, if a mother gives birth to a baby and labors for nine months and births the baby, she's going to feel like that baby belongs to her.

And you know what Firestone said? She said, we want to destroy this possessiveness. So that is the target. So the feminist who is talking about this was ultimately the enemy of this, you're saying? Yes. So she pointed out that fact and said, therefore, from her opinion, since we all want global socialism, then we have to hack away at the connection between mothers and babies. Well, see, this is interesting because I've always known, you know, we know these things in part,

where you know that any big state philosophy, whether it's, you know, Soviet communism or, or Chinese communism or the Nazis or whoever it is, they are ultimately at war with God's order, which includes the family. And so that's the fundamental problem. And so they want to destroy all of God's order. So you want to destroy the family. You want to destroy the concept of marriage. All of these beautiful things are created by God.

They're woven into the warp and wolf for. of reality, but when you're at war with reality and the god of reality, these are the things you go after. And so this is what they've been doing, and you're giving us a piece of how that happened in the 70s. I've never heard that before. Right. And so it really is significant.

So when I read that that was hers philosophy, I said, wait, that's my philosophy. But my answer is totally different than hers. Hers is, therefore, we have to cut the bomb between mothers and babies. And mine is, therefore, that's the thing we have to preserve at all costs. And the thing is, it's pretty hard to break. That's why the title of the book is The Invincible Family, because if you're going to truly break the family and do it permanently, you have to break motherhood, which is nearly impossible because it's nearly invincible. So, you know, we've got reproductive technologies now attempting to do this. And in fact, Firestone said that her first objective for humanity was to eliminate the bearing of children by mothers.

So that's a tall order. But you see that we're marching in that direction. and people are beginning to accept that way of thinking and technologies that would facilitate it. Right, which I have to think that we are very, very far from synthetic wombs. Like when people talk about that, it's like talking about, you know, artificial intelligence, developing consciousness. It's like I don't think it could ever happen. Like, I just don't. I think that it's just chatter.

Like people say these things. Well, even if it happened on a limited basis, it would never be the solution for it would never be a widespread solution because, you know, the way God designed it happens a lot more effectively and easily, you know, through sex and childbearing. And so it's really not, you know, false childbearing is not going to take over the world. But the ideology behind it is, that is what's marching forward. Oh, there's no doubt about that. No, there's no, there's no doubt about that. But it is interesting, too, how I never saw it coming. But I remember when, you know, same-sex marriage became the quote-unquote law of the land, which to me, again, talking about

marriage beyond a man and a woman for life, redefining marriage, you can't actually redefine marriage. You can do it in this sort of, it becomes sophistry. It's like redefining sex, redefining whatever. You're just basically carving out these words and giving them the meaning. But when that happened, we kind of leapt quickly to the trans thing. And when we kind of leapt quickly to the trans thing. come back, I want to talk about that because that's become the enemy of womanhood. So don't go away, folks. We'll be right back. My Pillow is excited to bring you their biggest betting sale ever.

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the enemy of women. It's just an extraordinary thing. I just feel like you see the radical anti-God left eating its own. I mean, one minute, it's all about women. The next minute, it's destroying the concept of womanhood. It's so interesting. And I spend a chapter on that in the book. And it's really been ingenious the way that this has been put forward because LGBT, they were all put in one package, right? And when you look closely, they're not at all the same. They are divergent ideologies that lead in different directions. They're both family destructive, but in different ways. Like, you know, the argument behind for same-sex marriage is being born that way.

So even if you believe that belief, the argument for transgenderism is very different. It's that I was born in the wrong body, that my body is wrong. So they have warring ideologies, but they don't want to acknowledge it because they happen to be working together for the season. Yes. But the thing is some groups and individuals are coming out from these divergent communities saying, you know what, no, this isn't our fight. These arguments aren't the same. And it's very destructive because on the one hand, the arguments for same-sex marriage and so forth seek to obliterate the fact that the sexes are compatible with each other and are made to cooperate with one another. but transgenderism takes it a step farther

and it wants to say that male and female don't exist at all, not just that they're not complementary, but they actually don't exist at all, which is destructive of reality. It is not true. But once you dig into it, once you lean in that direction, start to believe that,

then you're led down a path that is not based in physical truth. Well, this is the thing. To me, in other words, I don't know if I have put it this way before, but I sort of touched on it earlier. All of these ideologies are at war with reality. They're at war with nature and nature's God. They are at war with God's idea of what a human being is, what a woman is, what a man is, what a family is. And we need to at least acknowledge that.

In other words, that these ideologies are trying to deconstruct these things, put in place by God, and they are at war with God. There's no argument to be made. In other words, unless you say, look, I'm an atheist, there is no reality. We are just products of accident. We can do whatever we want. There is no overarching reality or model to which we need to conform. We can do anything we like. It's like, if you want to believe that, you can believe that. But nobody should be fooled to think that that is somehow compatible with faith in the God of the Bible because he has given us clear orders of life, family, male, female, and that's what so fascinating to me is how you have various fronts at war with us. But at the end of the day,

they're all at war with God, with what God says. And with the family. And so if you look again to the writings of Firestone, she went a step further than saying that we should eliminate the bomb between mothers and babies. She said that the ultimate goal is not the elimination of what she calls male privilege, but the elimination of the sex distinction itself. And she said that in 1970. And she said that the result of eliminating the sex distinction itself, in her words, that the sex of a body would no longer matter culturally. So if it no longer matters culturally or legally, then the family is in very dangerous ground. Because if you cannot establish who belongs to who based on family relationships, then it blows the whole thing apart.

But you can see that the ideology of the early socialist feminist feminist has marched forward in a very deliberate way and is now front and center. And what she said, though, that the end result of basically desexing the world, eliminating the sexual differences from being culturally important, would be the end of the family. In fact, more specifically, she says it will precipitate the disappearance of motherhood, which she rejoices in. And that's an interesting point because

if you think about it, if we can no longer define people by their physical sex, if they're male or female, if that becomes socially inappropriate or even illegal, you know, veering that direction, then it becomes very problematic and difficult to define what a mother is because mother is a sex-specific designation, as is father. So if we're not allowed anymore to designate people by male and female, then it becomes very hard to say who is a mother. who is a father, which is exactly the intention. Well, the title of the book is The Invincible Family, why the global campaign to crush motherhood and fatherhood can't win.

So you're this week at the UN. It is a global campaign, and it fascinates me. The reason I see it as ultimately diabolical is it doesn't make any human sense. Why would so many people around the world be wanting to do these things? It's very creepy and curious. Well, I mean, if you have totalitarian aims, if you think your ideas are the best and you want to rule the world, there's a great obstacle you have to overcome. And that's the family. Because it's practically invincible, because it's built into our very beings. And so, you know, it's been said that the thing that stands between the totalitarian state and the individual is the family.

And so that's where all the firepower is going. And they're having some success. And in fact, globally, you know, just I'm here at the United Nations this week. it's stunning to see what they're enacting and how they're going about it. What do you mean? Give us some examples. Well, so I mentioned International Planned Parenthood Federation earlier, and so they partner regularly with UN agencies, UNESCO, you know, UNICEF, UNFPA, all these agencies, and they sponsor events, like the events that I'm going to this week, on sexual rights for women. And also they talk about it in relation to youth.

And so this is an open agenda that they push forward. The World Health Organization is also on board with this agenda. I'll give you an example that happened yesterday in a meeting that I was in at the UN. After a presentation, actually it was a high school student, raised their hand to ask a question. And she said, because we're talking about the digital divide, so called between men and women, how to bridge that divide. And that's a huge push for the UN right now. Anyway, this girl raised her hand and she said, I've seen a lot of promotion of sex work as a viable life choice, basically prostitution. Yeah.

And she said, I'd like to know what you think about that. Okay. This is called the cliffhanger in show business. More on that. When we come back, the book is The Invincible Family. Kimberly Ells is my guest. Let's welcome back talking to Kimberly Ells, E-L-L-S. the book is The Invincible Family.

So, Kimberly, you were saying that you're at the UN and this young woman teenager yesterday at the UN in one of these meetings raised her hand and brings up the issue. And, again, this Orwellian term, sex workers. And she asked, I guess, the authorities there in the panel, what did you think of that? Right. So there were representatives from United Nations. They had a representative from META talking about how we can push women into tech and onto. tech. Meta, which used to be Facebook.

Right. Yeah. And so they're partnering there with United Nations and how to move this agenda forward. So anyway, this high school student was concerned about what she'd seen, you know, her classmates are being promoted into prostitution, basically. And she wanted to know what the powers of be thought about that. And interestingly, they didn't answer the question. And they can't answer the question publicly because the World Health Organization

which is a United Nations entity, they are in favor of legalizing sex work. If you go to decriminalized sex. Their logo is huge as life under supporters of the cause of decriminalizing sex work. This is the World Health Organization that was trying to give us advice

about the vaccines 10 minutes ago. I mean, listen, their worldview is as antithetical to what most human beings on this planet believe. It's fascinating that these, elites gather to promote this agenda. So the answer that the meta person eventually did later in the thing, she said that, she said, well, we want to remain sex positive on the social media platforms without veering into basically the realm of abuse.

So that's very tricky. Yeah, we don't want to be pimps on the web. We will be, I'm sure, to some extent, but we want to veer away from that. I mean, there's no way around this. So the feeling is they want to be, quote, sex. Okay, well, I'm sex positive. What is that? Yeah, what does that mean? I'm positive that marriage, that sex should occur in marriage.

Yeah. That's what I'm positive about. Yeah. And only in marriage. Yeah. And that it's a good thing when it happens in marriage. But anyway, the powers would be, you know, don't go along with that line of thinking at all. They want to present sex as a right, a human right, apart from any other thing. And it's just the most destructive thing. But you also have to ask why?

In other words, where do you get that from promoting sex or sexual pleasure as a right. You want to say, okay, nice idea. Where does that come from? Ideologically, what are the roots of that? And what is the reason for that? Well, there's a couple reasons. And one is, one purpose is, of course, to destroy the family, to lay a bomb at the genesis of the family, which is sex. The other thing is Planned Parenthood Federation is trying to make your child a client because they need young people to be having sex. So they'll get into the predicament of having an unsupport of pregnancy, an unmarried pregnancy, then they can, of course, charge for abortions. They can charge for sexual disease testing. And now, of course, they've gotten on the bandwagon of providing testosterone and estrogen

treatments for transgender people. And so it's insidious. Are there transgender people? That's even another question. For people who think that they're trapped in the wrong body, but you're telling me that Planned Parenthood figures like, hey, we can make a good buck there as well. So they're getting into this. Oh, yes. This is the new cash cow for Planned Parenthood. And so this whole thing, advances their business model. Because Planned Parent and Federation is the largest purveyor of what's called comprehensive sexuality education in the world. And so they're in our schools, teaching our kids.

This is the paradigm of sex. We've got plenty more coming up in hour two. We have Ask Metaxus coming up first and then plenty more with Kimberly Ells. I also want to remind you, folks, please go to our website Metaxistalk.com. We're raising money to feed the hungry. Food for the Poor. We do this every spring. We desperately need everyone to participate.

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