The Eric Metaxas Show - L.A. Marzulli (Continued)

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

L.A. Marzulli shares his incredible book "Rungs of Disclosure: Following the Trail of Extraterrestrials and the End Times".

Welcome to the Eric Metaxas show. I shouldn't tell you this, but Eric hired someone who sounds just like him to host today's show. But since I'm the announcer, they told me, so I'm telling you, don't be foed. The real Eric's in jail. Hey there, folks. I'm talking to L.A. Marzuli about his really astonishing book, Rungs of Disclosure, following the trail of extraterrestrials and the end times. Very challenging stuff.

but we're doing our best here. So, L.A., you just said you made it a difference, you're differentiating between demons, the demons that Jesus is casting out in the New Testament and fallen angels. Why do you need to make that distinction? I don't get that. Because fallen angels are the ones that came down

and mixed their seed way back in the days of Noah. They mixed the seed. They sinned against, they took wives. Genesis 6 tells us. that the sons of God, the Beneha Elohim, which always refers to the angelic coast. So the angels come down, they see the women that they're beautiful, they take wives. They just take whatever they want, and it's plural. They take wives.

And then it says the Nephilim are on the earth in those days. Now, if it's no second incursion, Moses would have just put a period there, but he doesn't. The Nephilim are on the earth in those days, and also afterwards, when the sons of God, the fallen angels, the Benetha Elohim, in the Hebrew, which always verse to the Angelicos saw the women of earth and went into them, took wives. The offspring Abyss and Holy Union between

fallen angels and human women are the Nephilim. Okay, so the Nephilim existed in historical times. Correct. And you're saying that they are giants? Is that right? They can be giants. And that's, you see, this is the deal. This is why it's such a deep dive.

There are, when, when, and get this, when Joshua and Caleb are ready to go into the promised land, who is there, the Nephilim tribes, the Zanzumin, the Imams, the Nephilim, the Raphaim, the Zan, the Zanzumin, the Anakim, the Horites, the Horite's, in my opinion. And there's different genetic characteristics. Anikin means long neck. Horites, cave dwellers. There's different genetic attributes to each of the tribes. And it's genocide. There's no way around that. It's genocide unless we're looking at these entities who are not human. Okay, so when Joshua wipes out, completely wipes out these beings,

it's not genocide because they're not human beings. They are. They are soulless. They are soulless. This is creepy. Why do we have zero skeletons of any of these giants? I mean, that's a basic question. You surely would think that there would be some?

We do. Absolutely, we do. In our research, we went down to Peru. We found these elongated skulls. It's in my book, On the Trail of a Nephilim. It's also in my film series. On a Trail of a Nephilim, there were eight films. We are the only people on the planet, essentially, to do DNA testing on these elongated skulls.

If I was in my studio right now, I would reach back. Well, we'll have more time. But tell me, you know, you know, when we're talking about this, because it's important. I think that, you know, I don't want ever to be guilty of just leading my audience down the garden path. We need to question these things, right? Because I think the first thing people say is like, wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what do you mean?

There are skeletons. You're saying that there are some skeletons and that you've seen, quote, unquote, elongated skulls. How elongated? What do you mean? I don't quite understand. I don't like this. Okay, very long. I wish I was in my studio. Well, that doesn't matter, but I'll take your word for it for now. We can talk again, but

okay, the elongated skulls, we did the DNA testing, all right? And we did, we sampled, Mondo Gonzalez and I were down there, we sampled 56 skulls or, and I'm sorry, 18 skulls, 56 samples. We had them sequenced. We are still sequencing things now. Everything is pointing to a Middle Eastern origin with these very enigmatic elongated skulls. which rewrites history, because the DNA should not be the haplogroup, the mitochondrial DNA, should not point to a Middle Eastern connection, but it does, which is our hypothesis. And it's in Peru.

You found these things in Peru. Yeah. But here's the deal. On Catalina Island, which I can see from when I come down my canyon in the Santa Monica Mountains, I was there at the museum. I spent hours in the museum looking at the files, looking at the pictures. In Catalina Island, off of the coast of California. Yeah.

Correct. They had a casino. Didn't they have a casino there, big deal of casino? Okay. And that's where the museum was in the casino. Okay. So I discovered a picture, which I had analyzed. It's basically a nine-footer with six fingers.

It's a nine-footer. What do you mean you discovered a picture? In the Catalina Museum, why do they have a picture of somebody nine feet tall with six fingers? Okay. Here's the deal. So we got wind of this cache of records that had been discovered that had been missing for 50 years. The former curator of the museum, John Boragina, discovered this chest. It's like right out of a Stevens-Sillberg movie up in the attic because he would run the projector in the movie theater.

So he finds the thing it made the front page of the LA Times. I get wind of this. When? It takes, oh, this is years ago. 2016, 17, right around in there. I get wind of this, maybe 15. I get wind of this, and I write the museum. I'm a researcher.

I'd like to come and look at what Mr. Glidden found or what John Borogina found about this cash of records from the primitive archaeologist, Ralph Glidden. So it takes me six months of negotiations. I finally offer a $1,000 donation to the museum because they're building a new museum, and they take it. So a friend of mine's an airplane pilot. We fly over there.

I find myself in the archives alone with John Boragina, and that's it, just the two of us in there. I think one other person, and he goes, what do you want to see? I go, let me see the pictures. So if it goes into the vault, and he takes out museum boxes, and there's a white table, there's a table with white paper on it. I've got my camera set up. I've got museum gloves on, and I start looking at the photographs. I find pay dirt within the first hour.

I find elongated skulls. I find six-fingered skeletons, and then, of course, we find the pay dirt. Ralph Glitton, the primitive archaeologist, circa 1919, 1921, is leaning on a shovel in front of him in situ. It's not a disarticulated pile of bones. In situ is a skeleton, which is very large. We take the picture. I take the picture of the picture. I send it off to three different researchers, no collusion between them.

They look at it, and all of them placed it at nine feet. that rewrites history. Okay, and what is the supposed date of that skeleton? In other words, not when it was discovered, because you said 1919, but from what era? Don't know. We have no idea. And where was this discovered? Because I'm more confused.

The museums, Catalina, California, where was this? There's a group of islands called the Channel Islands that go from Santa Barbara down to San Diego. Okay. So Ralph, Ralph was digging on San Miguel, also on. Catalina Island. We believe that that one picture was either San Miguel or Catalina. But here's the deal. The Chumash Indians, in where I am in Malibu, California, Santa Monica Mountains, have legends of the giants. Sarah Winnamaka in Nevada, the Paiute tribe, have legends of the nine-foot, 10-foot, red-haired giants, six fingers, double rows of teeth, who were burned up in the cave. Every single

Native American tribe in the United States has legend. of the giants. They were here. They came over here. And we see the vestiges of it all over the country. There's so much to unpack. I know. It really is. Well, it's crazy stuff. And there's some people, they tune it right out. But I'm here to tell you, folks, I read the book. And what I read holes together. And so I want to challenge my audience to take it seriously. The book is Rungs of Disclosure. So there are some pieces that I don't get. In other words, if these giants lived into historical times. Yes.

Because you talk about the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim. Obviously, these skeletons are not disembodied. These are actual beings in historical times. So clarify that for me. Okay, so the skeletons that we see, the breeding program continues. First of all, we don't know how long a Nephilim can live. For instance, our work, and I'm skipping again, deep end of the pool, our work on the Kandahar Giant, which we've had numerous people come forward, different people

where's Kandahar? Kandahar Giant is in Afghanistan. You write a chapter about that. I mean, you write about that in the book, but you get 10 seconds and then we'll go to a break. Go ahead. Okay. The bottom line is that thing was 12 to 14 feet tall. We don't know how old it was.

It stunk to high heaven, and our soldiers cut it down. We've had too many witnesses. Tell us about that. All right. This is so, I know this is a lot, folks. I apologize, but this is the best we can do. We'll be right back. Hey, folks, we're officially in that time of the year where eating becomes way off-balanced.

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And again, I know this is disparate folks. We're skipping around here, but it's all, we're trying to establish some stuff. That there was, there were many reports of in some cave in Afghanistan. So this is what, 10 years ago, 15 years ago? 2001. Okay. 23 years ago. That some of our soldiers saw what they reported as a genuine giant.

I mean, okay. Where are these guys? Are they willing to talk about it? Well, in our film, we actually have two people. There's no collusion between the two of them that talk about the Cantahard Giant. One of them was one of the shooters. The other gentleman who came on the record

came there about a year later, and the entire base, according to Kim, according to his testimony on film, was talking about the Cantahard Giant. Recently, I interviewed the grandson of this woman, his grandmother who lived at Kandahar. And she was a witch.

She was a witch. And she would take tethered goats and small cows to the cave as an offering to keep the giant there and not attacking the village. This is like something out of a fairy tale. This is why we have all these fairy tales, folks, because there's basis in some kind of reality. What are the films, before we get further, you keep mentioning films. Where can people see these films? Can they see them on YouTube? Where can they see any of this stuff?

No, everything goes on Eliamarzilli.com. There's 30 films and 14 books. So 30 films, 14 books. And let me say this. Let's bring it back to the Bible. Are we really the people, as Christians, do we really believe in virgin births, floating axe heads,

talking donkeys, men that walk on water, water that's changed to wine, water that's stood up as a heap as 3 million people go through it? Do we really believe what's in the pages of our books? Bible? Do we really have a supernatural worldview? It was our worldview so truncated that we don't believe what's actually written in our Bible. All I'm doing is unpacking the scriptures. It's there.

Well, look, I have no problem believing anything that you've written about, but then the question is not, do I believe it? The question is, is it true? And so that's why it's very important for us to drill down. So I think we're living at a time where a lot of stuff is coming to light that has been hidden. This is apart from the larger thesis of rungs of disclosure, which we'll get into in this segment, but that I think many people are saying that the narratives that I have bought, something's wrong. It's missing. A lot of information has been suppressed. The Kennedy assassination is front and center, both Kennedy assassinations, front and center. A lot of this stuff, people say, shut up, shut up, you know, just buy the standard. And people are no longer

buying the standard stuff. And I think that's part of what's happening right now, just in the culture, what happened in 2020 and a stolen election and all that. People are saying, wait a minute, I was going along, mining my own business, but I don't think I can do that anymore. And this is part of what your book gets into is that there's all this information that official figures have said, shut up, we're not talking about it. But suddenly, Suddenly, with the Roswell thing, with UFOs, Tucker Carlson had someone on his program, that suddenly this stuff is a little bit out in the open in a way that it's not been before. Who did Tucker Carlson have on his program?

What's this a year ago? I don't remember. Well, he had several people in 2017, and this is the very first rung. This is the nexus of the book. So I'm watching Tucker Carlson, and it's a Friday night, and Tucker says something like this. UFOs used to be the stuff of tinfoil hat-wearing people and conspiracy theories, but maybe we shouldn't think that anymore. Commander David Fravor joins us.

Former F.18 pilot, welcome of a show. And you see Commander David Fravor talking to Tucker Carlson, and it might be one of Commander David Favors' first interviews. And so it's a triptych. You've got Tucker, Commander David Favrever, and over here, you've got footage of the UFO. And, you know, this guy's... So this is when Tucker was on Fox News,

He has his big show on there, 2017. And he is now talking to a pilot who says, I saw what looks like, you know, it's not of this world. But we're out in the open talking about this on Fox News. This is no longer, you know, just relegated to the crazy stuff. This is like we're going to talk to the guy to a reputable pilot who saw what he saw. He's the best of the best of the best. And it isn't interesting how you go crazy because for decades. we've been told conspiracy theory tinfoil hat.

That's what people, and the ridicule that goes with it. So people keep everything down. They don't say anything. They're afraid to speak what they've seen. But anyone who has actually seen a craft, you can't take that away from them. I've seen three. So Commander David Fraber is on Tucker Carlson,

former F-18 pilot, the best of the best of the best, no doubt about it, stand-up guy all day long. And Tucker asked him a $64,000 question. In your opinion, what was this? And he looks right at the camera. Commander Fraber looks right at the camera. Whatever this was, was not from this earth. Now that, it's not, who cares what I say?

Talk to him. He had a direct conflict with this thing, with this tic-tac jap object. Okay, now he is not saying what it is. He's simply saying, in other words, he, in that statement, he's saying it could be an extraterrestrial. it could be a craft from a distant part of the universe, or it could be an interdimensional being that is also not of this world, that's not of this world at all,

because aliens are of this world, because if they exist from another planet, they're part of this world, even though they're not part of Earth. But he wasn't clear on that, and he didn't make any conclusions on that. But what you're saying is that, in fact, these beings, these spacecraft, these are not from other planets.

You're saying, you know, now it does seem a stretch to say that, you know, there's a demonic conspiracy. You know, when we think of demons, we think of disembodied beings. It's like angels. We don't think of them flying craft around. Why would they do that? Like, I don't, that's not clear. When we go to Second Kings and we read about Elijah,

and his servant, Kahazi, and they're surrounded by the Syrian army. This is in our Bibles. You know, you can go check it out for yourself. And Ghazi is completely troubled in his spirit. We're going to die. We're surrounded by the Syrian army. So Elisa says, you know, Lord open his eyes. And he shoes Ghazi out of the tent. And Ghazi's out there looking around, and what does he say? I saw the chariots of fire above the Syrian army.

he's describing something with a vocabulary that he has thousands of years ago so what is he looking at some sort of a craft that's moving so that's a chariot because that's all he has to go by horses and chariots and fire there's no electric lights he has fire

torches and fire so what does he say I saw a chariot of fire that's what he says well so your interpretation is he saw something like flying saucers and stuff but it's also possible that he saw chariots of fire. In other words, he saw a vision of

of chariots of fire. I'm not saying that I believe that, but I'm saying that you don't need to conclude from that that he saw. But it is your belief that he's describing extraterrestrial. What do we even call them at this point? Because they're not extraterrestrials. He's describing some sort of craft,

which is above the Syrian army. And see, the problem is, because we've got, and I'm working on another book on this, the church, for the most part, has a very truncated view, not only of a supernatural, but of technology. I'll just give you one example. Let's go to the New Jerusalem. That thing is 1,500 miles square and 1,500 miles high.

How does that descend? How is it built? How is the structure able to hold and span 1,500 miles? It's got gates. It's got walls. It's got cities. Truncated view. No one ever talks about this.

I'll give you one more. When we go back into the Garden of Eden, right? So Adam and Eve have just blown it. They're terrified they get booted out. God sends the two cherubim to guard the east gate. So inquiring minds immediately ask, well, what about the north, south, and west gates? For some reason, they don't need to be guarded. What does that infer?

We could talk about that for hours. But the east gate is accessible. So the east gate is guarded. Two cherubes are here. Cherubim are here. What's in between the cherubim? a flaming sword which turns every which way. That's technology.

Because the cherry beam are not wielding that. A flaming sword which turns every which way. A flaming sword which turns every which way. That's technology. That's supernatural technology. That we don't know how it works. It's not magic. It's technology.

When we come back, we're going to talk about crop circles and other kooky stuff folks. Except I don't think it's that kooky. Well, it's cookie, but I think it's also real. Or I think it's worth our looking at it seriously. Let me put it that way. The book is Rungs of Disclosure following the Trail of Extraterrestrials in the end times.

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many, many, many, many people will be deceived. So let's go there. Jesus warns us, you know, do not be deceived. Jesus tells us, men and women will faint from fear from what is coming what upon the earth? What is he alluding to? Jesus points back that at the time of his coming, it'll be like the days of Noah, which immediately begs the question, what differentiates the days of Noah for many of our time in history? This is why Genesis 315 is so pivotal. If we don't come to an understanding and the correct exegesis of that, we have no idea what Jesus is talking about. Paul says Satan comes with all signs and lying wonders. John, the revelator tells us that there's a one world government, one world religious system. That's not

allegory. That's going to happen. This is what the other side of the aisle. This is a track that we have and we give out. What is the truth? This is from channeled information from a woman by the name of Barbara Marcinniac. It's channeled information from allegedly the Pleiades. This is what the other side of the aisle. Hold on, hold on, because you're so into this you think this is normal and people are tracking. What you just said, what you just said is that there are people that are deep into the new age, correct me if I'm wrong, it's what you're referring to. And they say, oh, we're getting, you know, there are these civilizations and they're channeling information. I'm getting this information from these higher beings on another planet, whatever. You're saying, and I would agree,

it is demonic. It is not from some benevolent other civilization on the other side of the sun or whatever. This is demonic stuff. But you're saying that there are people who believe this. There are people who are putting it out there. And you're saying that there is a deception coming where this demonic lie will affect a lot of people. When I read this to you, I heard this 50 years ago, 5-0, 50 years ago when I was in the new age. Let's know what she says. We are here. We are the Pleiodeans. Humanity is learning a great lesson at this time. Here's the first lie, just like the garden. The lesson is, of course, to realize your godhood.

I'm not saying this. The chattled information is. That's the first lie. You know, when you taste the fruit, you'll be like God knowing from good and evil. Same lie. Let's continue. If human beings do not change,

if they did not make the shift in values and realize that without Earth, they could not be here than Earth, and its love for its own initiation, that's Gaia, is reaching for a higher frequency, we'll bring about a cleansing that will balance it once again. So now the earth.

Earth is a living form. This is the whole Gaia. Total New Age stuff. Go hug a tree. But I digress. Here's the kicker. Here's the kicker. And this will,

this explains the rapture away. This explains the rapture of the church. Okay? Listen to this. There is a potential for many people to leave the planet in an afternoon. The people who leave the planet during a time of Earth changes

do not fit here any longer. And they are stopping the harmony of the earth. some of the created gods were master geneticists. It has been our attention to expand your ideas of who your gods are, because those gods will be returning to Earth. Okay, so this is totally demonic. No, this is totally demonic. I know.

I want to be real clear. This is vintage, new age, demonic horror. And it's been going on and on and on and on. And there are many people who buy into this. And what you're saying is it is a satanic deception, and it will fool a lot of people. because it sounds so nice, and we've been prepared over the years. Like, people are bad. People are bad.

We need somebody from a higher civilization to come and to tell us how to bring out, how to bring world. I mean, there was a Simpsons episode. I'll never forget this. Montgomery Burns goes through some kind of a process, and he gets radioactive, and he comes out and he says, I bring you peace. I bring you peace. And it's like he looks like an alien. So this is the lie, even the symptoms are making fun of it, because it's always like the aliens come to bring peace.

There's a Twilight Zone episode, my favorite one with the Canomits, right, where they say, we've got a book. It's called To Serve Man. We have come from our higher civilization. We want to serve mankind. And of course, the punchline is, it's a cookbook. They're going to eat you. But the point is this lie has been out there that there is this higher. And again, if you buy into evolution,

it makes sense right oh we're evolving we're getting smarter and better better so somebody's been out there evolving for millions of years they're way past us and they got great stuff to teach us how nice of them to come here and to teach us all this great stuff so if you take god out of the picture you believe in evolution this stuff is perfectly plausible and so that's that's how the lie is passed off so we've just got 45 seconds and then we got one final segment so final comments and then we'll come back. The bottom line is this, the neo-Darwinists are looking to panspermia. They're already embracing the idea that we were seated here by an advanced race of extraterrestrials. And this is, again, it's a deep end of the pool. And as Christians, we have the idea. We have the tip of the spear,

but it has to come from a biblical prophetic view, and that's what the book is about. Well, that's what's so amazing is that only people who believe in the Bible have a different view, have the real view. Everybody else are, they are suckers totally primed for this deception. They're total suckers. And they've, because they bought the lie of evolution, they bought the lie. There's no God. They bought the lie.

I mean, all this garbage. So if you buy that stuff, you are, you are set up. You are utterly set up for this nonsense. We'll be right back talking to the author of Rungs of Disclosure. It makes a lot to say. Spends his days Darker shame Are you freaked out yet?

What about now? What about now? I'm talking to L.A. Marzuli. The book is Rungs of Disclosure Following the Trail of Extrastrials in the End Times And your website is L.A.Marzuli.com. Folks, this is at least fascinating. It is at least fascinating.

So L.A., we're talking about this coming deception. And what fascinates me is how it's perfectly built on all of the lies that the culture has been buying for decades and, you know, for a long time that we've been prepped for this nonsense. And again, if you do the math, I mean, when I wrote my book as Atheism Dead, it's so clear that life doesn't evolve by itself. That can't happen. But if you believe that it does, you would just say, well, of course it's evolved around the universe. and we would be arrogant to think that we're the only ones here. And why don't we listen to some of these elder brothers in the universe, who, by the way, are demonic?

So it's just amazing. How has this been received? I mean, I imagine most churches would just say, yeah, you're kind of nuts. Thank you very much. And I've been, you know, given the right foot of fellowship and booted out of several churches because of this. And that's fine.

What I do find is that many pastors are waking off. Some pastors, not many, some pastors are waking up. And they, again, let's talk conspiracy here. If you were going to keep one scripture away from seminarians, people who are, want to be pastors, you keep, you never teach Genesis 315. You never steer them in the book of Enoch. You make sure all that's just tucked away. And this is what happens. Pastors come out.

They have no idea that it's a seed war. It's a seed war. Genesis 315. That's the gateway to the Bible. I'm not making this stuff up. You know, in regard to the idea that the universe is populated by, you know, all these extraterresters, which I don't believe for a second. We know from Scripture that Father God is going to roll up the heavens like a scroll. That's literal.

So we might be living in some sort of a holographic universe because we don't know what this is or where we are in it. We have no idea where we are. And he's going to create a new heaven or a new earth. How is that possible? Jesus comes here, not Zeta reticuline. Jesus came here. We're it. We are it.

whether we are made in the image and likeness of God. But there's a deception. And by the way, in Second Thessalonians where it says God sends them strong delusion, when you go into that word and you translate it, God permits it. He permits them to go. So they're being held back until a moment of time,

and I talk about this. There's going to be an event on this planet which will completely shake humanity as we know it. And that's when they come as our saviors. So you think, So you think we're close to something horrible happening and that these demonic beings disguised as, oh, we're aliens will come?

So what do you mean? Nuclear cataclysm? What do you suppose? Well, without giving away the farm, but I will. Bottom line is you have a nuclear event going off anywhere on the planet. We're already seeing the saber rattling from Putin and others, the Iranians for sure. I mean, who knows how far this thing is going to go?

All it takes is one. We are now linked up in ways that are absolutely unparalleled in all of history. As we are speaking right now, the satellites cover the Earth. Everyone is linked up in real time. You have a nuke going off anywhere on this planet. It creates the greatest collective fear that humanity has ever experienced as one, which will happen. And that's when the so-called space brothers come in and they are obsessed with nukes. And I write about this.

They are absolutely obsessed with nukes. And there's a reason for it because that's their trigger, in my opinion. That's their trigger. They know when one goes off at some period of time, they will be permitted to come. And when they come, in fact, for your listeners, Google on YouTube, hello down there. Google it. Hello down there. It'll blow your mind.

It's a minute and a half Super Bowl ad. Costs millions of dollars, 2024 was released this year. Hello down there. And you will see MyO-Wy Crows. over a little diner in Texas, New York City, Paris, France, and Japan. That's deliberate. It's predictive programming. It's predictive programming. Watch that clip, and you tell me what we're looking at. Again, this is hard to process, and I don't want to buy it all. I want to be a little bit skeptical,

because I think it's important that we get it right. Sometimes I think Christians are too quick to say, well, this scripture means this, and maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. You know, you're talking about the seed war that sounds right. But you don't have to be right on everything, but it sounds like you're right on a lot of stuff. And I think it's worth people looking into it. The Book of Enoch, of course, is not canonical. But clearly, Jesus and others were aware of it.

They took it seriously. You know, we need to look into that. And I think that when you're talking about the Nephilim, I mean, we didn't get too much into this. but the idea of the crop circles, can you give us 30 seconds on crop circles? 30 seconds on crop circles. In our film on crop circles,

it's actually we have a 10-part UFO series. Only Christian ministry that has that. And it's number five in the series. And what we show is this one crop circle in the United States. And the reason why we zero in on it, because it dovetails the Nephilim and the ancient megalithic structures in the United States, and that crop circle is created in a field of corn which stands eight feet tall. You can't make a crop circle in a field of corn that stands eight feet tall.

Across the river, which is a small river, is the Nepheline mounds. We call the nephaline mounds. It's not a coincidence. And all this, of course, is in Ohio. That crop circle took place about 30 days before the first Nephilim Mounds conference with Gary Stearman, Rastisdur, Chief Joseph Riverwin, and myself. For the first time in thousands of years, you had a group of Christian men saying, Native Americans did not do this. This is Nephilim architecture, fallen angel technology. And that's a three-hour conversation.

Nephilim architecture. Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it on this program first. Nephilim architecture. So are a lot of the Cyclopean walls that are built in ancient civilizations? Do you believe those were Nephilim that built them? Absolutely. And I write about this and have photographs. I mean, there are Cyclopean walls all over Greece, all over the Middle East.

And I've always wondered, what the heck are Cyclopean walls? Who built them? We're getting into some freaky stuff here. We've gotten into some freaky stuff here. But I think it is worth soberly looking into it, examining it. I'm grateful to you, L.A. Marzuli, for writing the book. folks, the book is called Rungs of Disclosure. I hope a lot of the folks who listen to this program will get the book, Rungs of Disclosure,

will read the book, and I will have you back to discuss more, because there's a lot more, and it's, as I say, at least fascinating. L.A. Marzuli, thank you so much. Thank you. We appreciate you having me on. When you get the blues, come on get rhythm. When you get the blues. A jumpy rhythm makes you feel so fine. It'll shake on. Hey there, folks.

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Chris, your wife, Tiffany, your current wife. Yes. Your first wife. Let me say your first wife, Tiffany, who is still, you're still married to her. Yeah, we're still married. We're going to see how it goes, but it's 26 years. I think it's weird. You know what? Because people go apart. You know what I'm saying? You got to see how you feel. You got to go by your feelings. I don't want to run into anything, you know? Yeah. Don't take the vows too seriously. Go with your feelings. Go with your feelings.

Okay. So Tiffany was very involved in putting the book together. And this is the first ever. We're probably going to do one of these per year. But it is physically beautiful. It's a beautiful book. You can get it at Eric Mataxis.com. If you go there to books, you can see the book. You can get my bonhoff, you get all my books there. But if you go to Ericmatakis.com, the Socrates and City book, it's called Conversations, and it is a compilation of most of my favorite conversations. We couldn't fit everything in the book because we don't want to make the book like 600 pages.

Amazing conversations. And I think of this, you know, a lot of the books that I write, the Bonhofer book and this book even more. If you want to share your faith with somebody who they're not where you are, but they're not ready for like, you know, the heavy-handed Jesus talk. You just want to kind of get them thinking about the big questions. That's really what Socrates and the city is. Socrates said the unexamined life is not worth living.

Let's think about life. Let's think about, is there a God, what is right, what is wrong? How do we know what's right and wrong? How do we get people thinking about those things? So that's what Socrates and City has been for 25 years. We're doing the anniversary celebration on December 10th in Manhattan. You can sign up for that at Socrates in the city. You can look into it.

And we hope you'll come to that. But even if you don't come to that, you can get the book. And I do recommend it. It is a great, great Christmas present. It is a great Thanksgiving present. It is a great present. It's a great non-present. Whatever you want to eat for, it's great.

It's a great thing. And also, there's a lot of really cool other things on the Socrates in the city shop web page. So if you go to Socrates and the city.com shop, you can see that there's a lot of cool swag that we've developed around the soccer. I haven't mentioned the swag lately. There's great swag. Oh, my gosh. shirts, hats, bags, all kinds of cool stuff. Actually, and it's so well designed. Again, I'm not really high-end stuff. I'm exaggerating, folks. It's beautiful. The sweatshirt, the, I've been traveling so much, I forgot all about this stuff. The hat, the sweatshirt, the mug, the tote bag. It's all so beautifully designed. We have a very, very extraordinary designer. I got to tell you, it is just, it's beautiful. But the book, he was also involved in designing the book. So the book is gorgeous. And the contents of the book, I know I've said this before, I was really moved. when I was editing it, I said, wow, these are gorgeous conversations, glorious conversations about truth, about, I mean, really beautiful. I've invited Dick Cavett to the December 10th thing in Manhattan. I haven't heard back from him yet whether he can show up. That would be really special. The conversation I had with him in 2011, that's in there. A lot of great stuff. Go to ericmetaxis.com.

Check it out.