The Eric Metaxas Show - L.A. Marzulli on Nephilim, Sasquatch & Biblical Mysteries

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

Author and researcher L.A. Marzulli returns to dive deep into the supernatural and paranormal realms from the Bible. From ancient Nephilim lore and mysterious fossils in Peru to Sasquatch sightings and other unexplained phenomena, this conversation explores the secrets that challenge our understanding of history and faith.

Welcome to the Eric Mattaxas show. We'll get you from point A to point B. But if you're looking for point C, well, buddy, you're on your own. But if you'll wait right here in just about two minutes, the bus to point C will be coming right by. And now here's your Ralph Cramden of the airways, Eric Mattaxas. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Eric Mataxis show. It's named after me, Eric Mataxis.

It's the Eric Mataxis show. We are a podcast, we're on the radio, but you can watch the show on my YouTube channel. I recommend watching it on my YouTube channel. Why? Because there's some visual things that you don't pick up on the radio or on the podcast. For example, I'm very excited to speak to my guest back on the program, back by Popular Demand. L.A. Marzuli, L.A., welcome back. great to be here. Thanks for having me back on. Appreciate it.

Now the visual stuff, for example, because you know, you can't pick this up on the radio, folks. If you don't go to my YouTube channel, you're not going to see behind L.A., not making it up, is a misshapen skull. A misshapen skull. L.A., can you explain the mishapen skull next to you? I would love to. This skull is a model, a one-to-one model created by Joe Taylor. It came out of Paracas, Peru. Notice the great elongation. We've done extensive DNA testing on it. And here's a couple of things that, which should just blow your audience's mind. First of all, the haplow group, the mitochondrial DNA, comes from the Middle East. Now, that rewrites history. We've done carbon-14 dating and the C-4-1. teen dating is about 1,935 years ago. So that's obviously pre-Columbian. Okay, now hold on a second. Hold on a second.

I love the fact that you felt the need to say, notice the oblong shape. Anybody who is looking at that skull and does not notice the oblong shape is blind. That is the freakiest looking thing. I mean, that's one of the freakiest things I've ever seen in my life. So you're telling me, because you're so into this, and I find this when I'm talking to people on the parking, people are so into this. They don't appreciate that it takes a few seconds for people to take this in. You said that that skull that you're holding is not a real skull, but it's a replica of a real skull. Correct.

Discovered when and where by whom? There's a graveyard near Paracas, Peru, and I want to thank Senior Juan Navarro and Brian Forrester for getting us there. This goes back of 2013, so it's over a decade ago. And when you're there, it's one of the driest places on earth. It's all sand dunes, as far as you can see. It gets less than a quarter of an inch of rain a year. So it's a perfect place for burials. There are burials throughout that Chongos necropolis, because it is a necropolis.

And the Wakaros, the grave robbers, go in and dig this stuff up. and then they sell it to the museums. In fact, the Wakaros, the gray robbers, were the first ones that found these and showed the Peruvian archaeologists, Sr. Tejo, about this. And then he went out and procured some of these elongated skulls. Okay, hold on, hold on.

So you're telling me there's more than one. There are many of these elongated. Oh, my gosh. We discovered three. I mean, just we were in the Changos de Cropolis, and we were walking, going out of the area, and I go, what the heck is that? And I go running up to it, and it's an elongated skull.

Brian goes up to the right to where the burial was. There's two more there. The Rokarles do this, they don't have them all. I mean, this went on for years. But here's the deal. Modern-day archaeologist once says, oh, this is all the result of cranial deformation, cradle headboarding. When you take the head of an infant and you wrap it,

and bind it and create an elongated skull. And we get that. I've seen the ones, and I can tell of a difference that are cranial deformation or the ones that aren't. First of all, look at the orbits, the eyes right here. The orbits are about 20 to 25 percent larger than a human being. There is no sagittal suture. This is a suture right here.

You can see it. So this is a suture. It should be going from the frontal point. plate right here and splitting the occipital plate going back to the occipital plate. Let me do it again, splitting the parietal plates into it doesn't do that. Ladies and gentlemen, you need to sign up for the Eric Mataxis YouTube channel because you're missing this because seriously, L.A., this is crazy stuff. And I don't even know where you're going with this, but before you keep going, let me just ask

you some questions. You said that there are a lot of these. where are the actual skulls? Because what you're holding is a replica. You can go to Senior Juan's Paracas Museum, Paracus History Museum, in Paracus, Peru. You can go to the Teo Museum in Lima and see it there. You can go to the Eco Museum. We were at the Eco Museum.

And we were the only people, well, on film anyway, we asked them to take out the very elongated Chango skull. It's actually bigger than this. It's unbelievable. Okay, so again, you said that tests had been done on it, and what did the test say? Let me just, I'll throw something at you, okay? This is, we're still in, we're still working this. We've got an artifact that came out of Bolivia.

It's an elongated skull. The orbits are 25 to 30% larger. We've done extensive DNA testing on it, and we are doing more DNA testing on it. to give you an idea what we're looking at. A Neanderthal is 99.5% identical. Their DNA, Neanderthal DNA, is 99.5% identical to a modern-day human. A gorilla and a chimpanzee is 98.5 identical to a modern-day human. The parochus skulls, the Bolivian skull, is 96.5.

It's a completely different genome. And it's got our geneticist just baffled. It is unbelievable. Now, how do you get DNA from a skull? I thought you needed living tissue. No, you don't. A tooth is fine. The bone is fine.

The DNA. Now, remember, if this thing is 2,000 years old, it's very degraded. Let me show you what the smoking gun is. And this is from our anthropologist on our team, Rick Woodward. This is the foramen magnum right here, okay? that white that white that you see is actually clay so you could insert a dowel so normally none of that would be there this white part here would not be there this is the foramen magnum it's all the way back to the rear part of the skull if it's any further back to the occipital it's outside the skull

it should be here which would okay listen you you've you've made it clear that this is not like our skulls but you have to answer my question what do you what do you you know so far. What is it? What is it? Well, you, you earlier made some comments about the dating. You said pre-Columbian. You said that this had come somehow not from that part of the world. So we're, so talk about that. Okay. Our hypothesis, scientific method, our hypothesis is this, that when Joshua and Caleb come into the promised land, you know, 3,3,500 years ago. Listen, you got you, before you say this, it's not. going to make sense until you repeat what you said at the beginning of the program. You said

the dating and the origin. Right. Okay. So the dating from the carbon 14 dating is 1,935 years. Okay. Okay. So that's one important piece of information that you're talking about something that is 1,200 years old. That's number 1. Number 2. Origin. Almost 2,900 years old, not 1,900. 1,900. 35 years. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. 2,000 years old. Keep going. And then the DNA, which has come back, the mitochondrial DNA shows an origin. Mitochondrials from the female side of the equation, mother's side of the equation, shows a haplow group, the origin in the Middle East.

That rewrites history, Eric. It rewrites history. That shouldn't be there. But I'm saying that's the headline. I needed you to repeat that because that's a big deal. It is a big deal. Is this our first segment, guys? This is our first segment, correct? Yes. Okay, so L.A., we've got plenty time. But what you have just shared with us, just now in the beginning of the show,

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The book that you and I spoke about, your book on this program last time, is called Rungs of Disclosure. Rungs of Disclosure. We're going to get into that. But right now, we're just talking about the freakishly misshapen skull behind you. And so what is your sense of what it is? Now that you say, okay, it looks like somehow these people were from the Middle East. It looks like this is about 2,000 years ago. The skulls are, I mean, these are dramatically misshapen.

So it's impossible for us. It's impossible for me to speculate on what this could be. So what do you think it is? You don't have to know, but what is your guess? Well, our hypothesis is simply this. 3500 years ago when Joshua and Caleb pressed to conquest of Canaan, The Nephilim tribes were in the promised land. The Zanzumin, the Imams, the Nephilim, the Nephilim, the Raphaim.

Okay, they're all there. The Anakim, meaning longnecks. They're all there in the promised land. As Joshua and Caleb... The Anakim means the long necks? Anakim means long necks, correct. The Zanzumin, the buzzing ones. There's all these different tribes, which I believe denote certain genetic characteristics.

We also know that there was a Western diaspora. of these tribes. They fled the promised land. How do we know this? There's a stele which the historian Procopius records, and it says this. And it's found on the north shore of Africa. What's that doing there? We are those who fled from the face of Joshua, the son of none, the robber. Joshua, the robber, the son of none. Okay, hang on. When, I've never heard about that. There's a stele that that was found in the north of Africa. And what is that called? Well, it's Procopius, the story of Procopius records it. He saw it, and he wrote it down, wrote down what it said. And it basically said, we are they who flipped from the face of Joshua, the robber, the son of

none. And so we know, look, I've been doing this forever. And we know that there's a Western expansion of these entities, because they set up shop. They go to Cyprus. They go to Gozo. They go to Malta, Sardinia, the island of Sicily. Then they go into the further in the Mediterranean. They go into Spain, Menga. Menga, Spain, the largest dolman on the planet. It'll blow your mind. Just blow your mind. And then they go... The largest what on the planet? Largest dolman. A dolman is uprights like this with a huge slab of stone. And then it goes into Portugal and Spain and France. 80,000 standing stones at Karnak. Then it goes into England. Then it comes over here. It comes over here. This is why I'm on a trail of a Nephilim.

and they were in Peru 3,500 years ago because of a DNA testing that we've done. Okay, now listen, L.A. I have to. It's my job. Hold my feet to the fire, Eric. It's my job. No, no, no, no, no. That is my job. I'm not doing that. What I'm saying is it's my job just to comment and say, like, there are a lot of people listening to this program or watching this on YouTube who are saying, what the heck is this guy talking about? you say stuff like we're supposed to just gloss over it because to you, this is old hat. When you talk about Nephilim, you know, that's number one. Wait a minute.

What? Okay, we'll give you Nephilim. Now they're going westward, and you're saying that we have records of them going westward. Are you saying that we have strange skulls? What is the record of the Nephilim? What is any record of the Nephilim? In other words, for people, because I'm saying this not because I doubt you. You know that I respect you.

But I want my audience to be tracking and not just to say, you know, I heard something on the radio and I don't know. How do we know, you know, the Nephilim existed and how do we know they moved westward? And then the third question, how did they get across the Atlantic Ocean? Okay, let's work backwards. So Thor Hyrodol creates a papyrus, a copy of an ancient papyrus, ship. He's got one sail, no compass, no navigational, anything, okay? Okay, okay, excuse me. Ladies and gentlemen, LA is talking about something that happened in the late 40s, an explorer, a Norwegian explorer named Thor Heyerdahl. I have seen his wax effigy in the Thor Heyerdahl Museum when I

visited Norway, Oslo. And yes, he built, this was famous. I remember when I was a kid. I was a in the early 70s, that he built these balsawood rafts, or not balsawood, these rafts made of reeds because he had a theory that it was possible to travel across oceans that primitive people were able to do that. So that, I guess, is that what you're saying happened? Yeah, that's exactly. I mean, you're just, you kind of stole my thunder, but that's okay. Look, Thor Hyroddahl builds this papyrus boat, and there's no navigation equipment. He puts up a sail, he sails out essentially from the Strait of Gibraltar at the end of the Mediterranean Sea, he winds up in the island of Barbados. That's the new world. He proved that you could do this.

And if he can do it, others did it. And there was a migration. Look, you talk about the Nephilim. So who were of a Nephilim? A Nephilim of the progeny of fallen angels and human women. How do we know this? Genesis 315. The dragon is in the garden. Adam and Eve are over here. the pre-incarnate Christ says to the dragon, your seed, your offspring will be at war at enmity with the seat of the woman. The seat of the woman, the proto-evangelium, will crush your head, your bruises heel. That's the entire Bible. Three chapters later, Genesis 6, the Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward when the Benegha Elohim, the sons of God, saw the daughters of men, and took wives, it's plural, and had children by them. Folks, it's a seed war. Genesis 315,

it goes right back to that. So what we're looking at, and this is what's amazing, when Joshua and Caleb are there at the gates of the promised land, the Nephilim tribes are there, and the seed of Abraham, which will come the Messiah, the Messiah, is there. It is absolutely profoundly a cosmic moment. And of course, Joshua and Caleb push the Nephilim tribes out. Okay, so, you know, I want to get into all this stuff, but I want to also move along here. So you, so you, how do we know that, I mean, I can, I can accept the existence of the Nephilem. I have no problem with that. That's biblical. And, you know, we're speculating at some extent, but it sounds right. The idea that it is conceivable that ancient peoples or sort of peoples like Nephilem

could have gotten across the, the ocean, the Atlantic, in a westward direction, that seemed conceivable. How do we know, as you are saying, that there was a westward expansion in Europe and North Africa of the Nephilim, other than the one steel that you cited? On every single island that I mentioned, and I can name them again, and everything on Western expansion into Spain, Portugal, France, England, and then over here, we see the same type of construction. We see ancient megalithic works that make no sense at all. They show

up a couple thousand years ago and then the builders just vanish. They create places like America's Stonehenge. Right here in New Hampshire, I've been to the site numerous times. These sites are built on an 18 and a half year metonic cycle,

18 and a half year lunar cycle. Native Americans didn't know about that. There's these incredible earthworks in the Ohio Valley that And all throughout the Americas, we're talking 450,000 tons of earth. That's Cahokee, the largest mound. 450,000 tons of earth. We are looking at the fingerprints of the supernatural.

But mainstream archaeology doesn't like that. Giants were discovered. This is the picture of it I discovered in the museum on Catalina. What you are looking at is a nine-footer, circa 1919, 1921. The guy with a shovel is Ralph Glidden. He's the guy that was hired by the Hay Museum. The hay got gobbled up by the Smithsonian, and he discovered this giant.

It's roughly nine feet tall. Where's the skeleton of that giant? Well, that's the whole thing, Eric. Eric, the Smithsonian has run roughshot over this stuff. I mean, they have a paradigm, and they stick to it. So many of the, and we've got, we've got. Are you saying you think that they, have it? Oh, absolutely. They've got, maybe not this skeleton, but they've got other giant

skeletons that were exhumed. How do we know this? Because you've got doctors and lawyers talking about, wow, we jug up this giant and the Smithsonian came because we wanted them to come and we gave them the bones and I never hear anything more about it. And there's a reason for it, Eric, because all this happens after the Darwinian paradigm. And giant bones don't fit into the Darwinian paradigm. Bingo. They fit back into the biblical performance. Frederick narrative. And Miss Smithsonian has a religion, and that religion is Darwinism. Yeah. No, there's no, there's no, there's no doubt about that. That's exactly right. So you're in New Hampshire. I forgot about that. America Stonehenge. No, no, no, no, no. I'm in New Hampshire. I'm, I'm in California. Okay, because I was going to say, for some reason, I thought you were in California. But you're talking about the quote-unquote American Stonehenge. In what part of New Hampshire is that? It's right near Salem. It's, I've been to the site. numerous times. It's built on an 18 and a half year metonic cycle. And I'll show you something, which

if you, okay, there's what's called the Summer Solstice standing still. Let me see if I can. You know what, L.A., we're going to go to a break here. Folks, we'll be right back. If you are not subscribe to my YouTube channel, there's, I didn't expect so many visuals, but just go to Eric Metaxus YouTube, my YouTube channel, and we're posting all this stuff. We'll be right back. Folks, welcome back. I am enjoying speaking to L.A. Marzuli. I hope you're enjoying the conversation nearly as much as I am. Incredible stuff, L.A., because you, you know, you bring the goods.

It's not like, you know, you're not blown smoke. It doesn't mean that people can't disagree or have questions, but it's so fascinating to me what you're talking about. Your book, your most recent book, is Rungs of Disclosure. Have you written a book where you talk about what we're discussing right now. Yeah, and I'm going to show you this. It's called On the Trail of a Nephilim. It's a huge book. It makes a great paperweight. On the trail of the Nepalene. And I'm going to show you something

which hopefully will just blow your mind because I know it blows my mind. It's a place in New Hampshire is called America Stonehenge. And there's a Kelsey Stone was a college student and he knew about the summer solstice standing stone. And the summer, so America Stonehenge, there's this, there's the summer solstice standing stone.

And that summer solstice standing stone, when the sun, the rising sun of the of the, of the summer of the equinox, I'm sorry, the solstice, summer solstice, the sun comes right down. Let me use a proper year. The sun comes right down and sets right behind. that stone, all right, right behind the stone. So there's a viewing platform, the center of the hench. The hens is a circle. America's stone hens has all these standing stones all around it. And at first, no one knew what they were for. Then somebody said, I wonder if they're aligned to the equinoxes or the solstices, well, they are.

So Kelsey Stone gets on Google Earth, and he goes from the center of the henge out to the summer solstice's standing stone. And he draws a line. The line, he continues the line, on Google Earth. And now he's across the Atlantic Ocean. And he continues. And this is what happens. That line bifurcates the two standing stones in Stonehenge, England.

You're blocking the microphone with the book there. You said that he drew a line and that the line goes all the way from where he was in New Hampshire to Stonehenge. in England. So I guess the logical takeaway is that the same people who made the one made the other. Well, isn't that interesting?

There's definitely a connectivity. And what you're looking at is spherical trigonometry. The earth is a sphere. So you just can't draw a straight line. You've got to know of a curvature of the earth. And in order to do that, you've got to triangulate from the air. Who is the print to the power of the air? Now, when you show this to an archaeologist or a

surveyor, and I've done both, the archaeologist goes, well, it must be a coincidence. It's not a coincidence. We have found that there's this connectivity. And in our film, America Stonehenge, we call it the, it's sort of like the Axis Mundi. It's the center of the world. Why? Because not only does a line from the standing stone, two points, go to Stonehenge, England, it also goes to TOTI wakan, Mexico. It also goes to Machu Picchu in Peru, the Canary Islands, the Giza Pyramid. I mean, this is mind-blowing stuff, Eric. And what are these? These the fingerprints of a supernatural. This is, this is why we're on a trail of a nephaline.

But wait a minute, wait a minute. You're making leaps because there are people listening that they're not going to be tracking. When you say the supernatural, the nephalim don't need to be supernatural. In other words, you're talking about, you're theorizing the existence of, you know, natural creatures, right? They are not natural. They are hybrid. entities. They are part fallen angel, the part human women. They are soulless, in my opinion. Soless. They have no soul.

Now, that's conjecture. I'll admit that. But they are in a fixed state. They are, they cannot be redeemed, and they are the progeny of fallen angels and the human women of Earth. This is Genesis 315, and then finally... But they are not... But they're not demons. Demons, this is a really complex deal.

demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim that were destroyed in the flood. Fallen angels are not demons. Demons are of a disembodied spirits of the Nephilim destroyed in the flood. Goliath is a Nephilim. Goliath is a Nephilim. His brothers are Nephilim, the progeny of fallen angels and human women. And they're doing this over and over and over again. There's an interesting culture.

Isn't Nephilim the plural? Well, when you overlay the book of Enoch with the Genesis 6 narrative, chapter 6 from Enoch, chapter 6 from the King James Bible, it reads word for word. The Nephilim, yes, we're on the earth in those days and also afterwards. It reads exactly the same. But I'm saying if I say the Hasidim. Yeah, that's plural. Right. So what's the singular of Nephilim?

Nephul. Neffal. Nafal. Nafal. a single nephal, various nephalim. I want to get this straight because, you know, we're going to be talking about this a lot here. This is fascinating stuff.

Well, so let's go back. So the skull that you're holding up the replica of the skull, you're postulating that the actual skull is the skull of a nephalim figure. One of the tribes. And I've even gone so far. And I was actually set to do this. We were set to go to Israel right before October 7th. And I had connections to an Israeli archaeologist to let me see the skulls that came out of Tel Gezer.

Tel Gezer was an ancient Canaanite site with a 20-foot tunnel. And this is all on film. I went to the archaeologist and said, why does a 5'6 Canaanite guy need a 20-foot high tunnel? Yeah, we're still trying to figure that out. So, but the Horites lived underground. Now, not all the Nephilim tribes did, but the Horites did. Excuse me, so the Horites are a tribe of the Nephilim? Correct.

These Paracus skulls, and I've been to the Besai, in the reserve outside of Paracas, Peru. They lived underground, Eric. You know what? I'm so sorry. We're going to another break. Folks, we'll be right back talking to L.A. Marzuli. Welcome back, folks. talking to L.A. Marzuli. Those are his initials L.A. And he lives in California. Do you live in L.A.?

I live in the Santa Monica Mountains north of Los Angeles. Close enough. Close enough. Okay, so, again, very fascinating stuff. People can read about this in your book on the Trail of the Nephilim. When did that book come out? Oh, the book's been out for a while. It's voluminous. There's actually eight films that we've made on the Trail of a Nephilim. And where can people find those films? You can go to streaming. www.la-Marzuli.net. Streaming.la-Marzuli.net.

L.A.marsilli.com. That's the main website. Okay. Pop around from there. So, have you gotten much traction on this? Because this is so deeply fascinating. Yes, and no. Most of the church won't deal with it,

because most of the church cling to the Sethite theory. and that's what they're taught. Pastors coming up in seminary hold on, and they're taught the Sethite theory. Let's walk through that. So when Jesus is saying, that'll be like the days of Noah 2,000 years ago, everybody knows what he's talking about.

How do we know that? Because Josephus, the first century Jewish historian, tells us in his very colorful work, that the bones of the Nephilim were openly on display in Jerusalem at the time of his writing, first century. So when Jesus goes, we like a day's a no when I return. Everybody knows what he's talking about.

Everyone. Oh, you mean the Nephilim are going to be here? Yeah, but Nephilim are going to be here. Again? Oh, yeah, again. Then in the 4th century, you get this guy, Julius Africanas, who comes up and they don't like what Genesis says. They don't like the idea of a seed war, and they come up with the Sethite theory,

which is this. The gaudy line of Seth, right, marry the hoochie mama's a cane, and the rest of history and created these hybrid. But that's not what the text says. The Beneha Elohim, the fallen angels, came down. This is why Genesis 315 is paramount in our discussion. Pastors don't know this. They're not taught this for the most part.

They're taught the Sethi theory. So all this has been dumbed down. You know, Eric, if you regard, I mean, put my tinfoil hat here, put my tinfoil hat on, this is conspiracy 101. But think about this. You keep that away from pastors and the people, they have no idea what's going on. You have no idea because when you get to Jesus's words, well, what do you mean the days of Noah? And then they, the exegesis is ridiculous. Oh, they were eating and drinking and dot,

dot, dot, dot, who are they? Who are they? It's not human beings. It's the fallen ones. Well, where do we go from here? You were, you wanted to bring up, I think it was Anna Polina Luna, who's a congressman, congresswoman. She was on Joe Rogan talking about something recently? Well, what we're going to do is we're going to leapfrog from the Nephalim and the machinations of the fallen angels into what is happening in modernity. So it's all sourced in the same place. It all comes out of hell's kitchen, all of it.

There's a very nefarious agenda. So Annapolina Luna is on the Joe Rogan show, and she's talking about UFOs slash UAPs, and she's stating on the record that they believe that this phenomenon is interdimensional, not extraterrestrial. That's my wheelhouse. I've been doing this for 40 years for crying out loud. That's my wheelhouse. And that's what they are.

They're not friendly ETs from some faraway galaxy. They are interdimensional entities with a very nefarious agenda. All right. So I remember in the 90s, not long after I had come to faith, I was reading the books of Hugh Ross. He's been on this program a bunch of times. And he was postulating the same thing that it, and I've said the same thing myself, it doesn't make sense that UFOs are extraterrestrials because if you know enough about science,

you know that the emergence of life apart from God is not possible. So if you have a Darwinian view, you say, oh, life is just popping up everywhere. It's just what happens. That's complete nonsense. I write about it in my book, is atheism dead, which I recommend, ladies and gentlemen, because you need to know this stuff. There is no way that life just emerges. And so if life just doesn't emerge anywhere on planet earth or anywhere else, what are UFOs? And you are saying, and what Hugh Ross was saying, and now you said that this young woman on Joe Rogan is saying that they are interdimensional. So yes, they are not simply aliens. There's something else going on.

What Hugh Ross says and what you say and what I believe is that they are demonic. Well, they are the source is demonic. The source is following angel activity. Daniel 243 says this. Their seed will mingle with the seed of men, but they will not cleave to them. Who are they? This is why the Genesis 315 scripture is so paramount in our discussion. If we don't get the proper exegesis, the proper interpretation of Genesis 315, when we arrive at Daniel 243, I don't know what he's talking about. And the angel tells Daniel, seal up the words in the book, Daniel, till the time of the end. And then he throws what I would call a supernatural cue.

This is what the time of the end will look like. Men and women will run to and for over the face of the earth. Novels will increase. We're here. It's happening. The mingling of the seed. We have a whole film on this. Well, the book is called Stolen Seed.

Evil Harvest by Karen Wilkinson. She was an abductee. There is a breeding program that is going on just like the days of Noah. Gee, where did we hear that before? It'll be like the days of Noah when the son of man returns. So I'm going to make them a stop. All I'm doing is connecting the dots. And it's here and it's happening. And get something else. You know, people go, well, why do fallen angels need UFOs, Ola? Let's go into Second King's Chapter 6, when Elijah is surrounded by the entire Syrian army. and his servant, Gahazi is there. And we're all going to die, Gahazi. We're dead. We're toes.

And Elijah says, Lord, open his eyes. So he boots Gahazi out of the tent. Gahazi goes out. What does he see? I looked up above, above the Syrian army in Soviet chariots of fire. So Gahazi has nothing in his vernacular, in his lexicon, to even interpret what he's seeing.

He knows a chariot is a vehicle, and he knows fire, torchlight, oil lamps. And what does he see? He sees a chariot of fire. What the heck is a chariot of fire? Right there. That's exactly what it is. And they're moving above the Syrian army.

And those are the good guys. So you're saying that he's writing about what we would call UFOs, unidentified flying objects, something not of this world. Correct. But you are saying that the pilots are not aliens. but are actually when we come back, I will let L.A. clarify these things.

Don't go away. Welcome back talking to L.A. Marzuli, his many books on the trail of the Nephilim, Rungs of Disclosure. So L.A., you were just saying that the pilots or the passengers of what we think of as flying saucers, whatever they are, UFOs, are what?

Well, before I answer that, the church, we Christians have a very truncated view of a supernatural. So I'm going to give you one example before I answer the question. So the cherubim are placed on the east gate of Eden. Well, we don't know what happens

to the southwest and Northgate. They don't need to do that. But the cherub beam are there. In between the cherub beam is what? A flaming sword that turns every which way. What is the flaming sword that turns every which way. You're looking at this thing thousands of years ago, and you're trying describe what you're seeing. No one is turning the sword. The cherubim are not turning it. It's turning

by itself. That's supernatural technology. It's a lightsaber, Eric. Vum, boom, boom. It's what it is. There's technology. Think about the breastplate of the high priest. The stones light up. The stones create a message. Think about the Ark of the Covenant. There is supernatural technology all throughout the biblical prophetic narrative, but we're blind to it. We have this truncated view of a supernatural. There are craft, and those craft, the good guys got them and the bad guys got them. And I don't have all the answers. Nobody. Why do good guys need a craft? Why do angels need a craft? That doesn't make sense to me. Well, let me ask you this. When Daniel prays and the angel is dispatched to Daniel, it takes him 21 days to get there. Why? And he's being restrained by this

entity known as the Prince of Persia. Well, why can't he just do an Enron? Why can't he just go around the Prince of Persia? He can't. He's got to go get Michael and reinforcements and they fight. How do they fight? How do they fight? Obviously, the Prince of Persia is removed out of the way so the angel can get through. We're not told how they fight. Can angels be wounded? They can't be killed because they're immortal, but can they be wounded? Later on in the book of Revelation, when Michael fights with the devil and his angels, they're cast to earth. How does that work? They're not thumb wrestling. You're not arm wrestling. So they fight. And how do they fight? We don't know. The Bible is silent. But can they be wounded? In my opinion, absolutely. See, this is the problem.

We've got this truncated view of the supernatural. And I get that. You know, we're told this much of a picture that's a lot bigger. Well, it's so fascinating. I mean, you're speculating a lot, but I don't think, That's bad. I mean, I think it's... I'm speculating within the framework of the biblical prophetic narrative. Right. The good guys fight the Prince of Persia. They do something because the angel gets there, finally. So, I mean, we're seeing this war between the NJ.

It's one of the few places in Scripture where the Lord allows us to see into what's really going on. And it's mind-boggling. All right. We've got one segment after this one. So let me ask you, what about Bigfoot? Bigfoot is a modern day Nephilim, in my opinion. A modern day nephalim. Modern day nephalim, correct.

It'd be like a day's a Noah. Why should that surprise us? You know, this is, this is, they're cooked up. But the simplest problem that exists with Bigfoot is why can't we catch one? Why can't we find the bones of one? Because they pop in and they pop out, Eric. they pop in and they pop out. How do I know that?

Because I've been talking to too many people. They're here. I have a picture from a late Scott Carpenter, and I believe they killed him, but that's another story. He got too close. They killed him. And Bigfoot killed him.

And they were knocking on the sides of his house. He called me up, L.A., they're up, they're at my house. They're banging on the walls at night. What do I do? We prayed. And it wasn't enough because he was in places where he shouldn't have been, but I digress.

Oh, my goodness. Forgive me. We're going to go to a break, folks. On the other side of the break, I continue talking to L.A. Marzile.