The Eric Metaxas Show - Larry Taunton and Nick Searcy

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

Larry Taunton weighs in on the Tucker/Putin interview. Actor Nick Searcy shares a new documentary “America, Invaded”. 

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the man who was the reason your friend sponsored your last intervention. Eric Matt, Texas. Folks, welcome. I'm excited to have, as my guest right now, my friend Larry Taunton, Larry, welcome. How are you doing, Eric? I'm doing all right. I'm just going to say I'm excited particularly

because you have been putting out, you know, in your own podcast and in other places, information to sort of help us process the Tucker Carlson interview with Vladimir Putin that happened last. last week, I guess it was Thursday of last week that it aired. But I've seen some of your analysis on that, and I thought, we've got to get you on the program because it's vital that we really understand what happened.

So help us understand the context and then what you think happened in the interview between or with Vladimir Putin conducted by Tucker Carlson. Yeah, let me begin by saying that I think Tucker Carlson has been subjected to withering and quite frankly obscene personal criticisms here, you know, suggesting he's a traitor and nonsense like that from people who are actual traitors. I was going to say, but, you know, it's good when people who are actual traitors who hate America accuse you of being a traitor to America because you know you're on the right side. Because the people accusing him of that are really dramatically guilty.

scores of times of doing things that are, you know, could be considered by saying people as genuinely traitorous. So it's interesting how they came against Tucker Carlson, just as you say, withering criticism, you know, from people who ostensibly hate America or hate the founder's vision of America. Yeah, exactly. I mean, Tucker Carlson is quite obviously an American patriot. And he's just doing here what any good journalist should do. Let me also say that I think his task was almost impossible in that on the one hand, he has to appear to be tough. On the other, he needs to seem to be very fair, all while doing it in the Kremlin, you know, ostensibly, you know, Putin's home. He had no guarantees.

Putin has arrested, imprisoned, and. even assassinated Russian equivalents to Tucker Carlson. And then on the other hand, you have the Biden administration that has done everything short of assassinating Carlson in order to try to prevent this interview. So I admire his courage. I appreciate him doing what he did. And then I would add to this, Eric, that I appreciated that unlike modern celebrity media class who think that, you know, you and I, we really want to hear them.

Carlson got out of the way and he let Putin speak and decided that we didn't really need him as a filter, but that we could listen to him and decide for ourselves. Now, a few things that I think, first of all, I think the both of us would encourage Americans, encourage anybody to watch this interview, watch the whole of it, listen to it. You really don't even have to watch it because there's not much that's happening in terms of body language or visuals here. So you can listen to this in your car while you're exercising. I've now listened to it several times. There are several points that I think are very important to understand just to give you a filter,

or a filter is not the right word, a lens through which to understand this interview. First of all, I think Americans, you have to understand that the Russian mindset is alien to the Western and especially the American mind. I mean, Russia, I say this as somebody who, you know, pursued two degrees in Russian history. I've been there many times. I've been in Ukraine many times. As you know, my first book is essentially a history of Ukraine. And I don't claim to be any kind of expert. Rather, I would say that you have to understand there really aren't any experts when it comes to Russia. I mean, everybody has been guessing, and the State Department has historically been for the last 40 years,

spectacularly wrong when it comes to Russia. You have to understand that Russia and Ukraine, they didn't have a Renaissance, they didn't have a Reformation, they didn't have an Enlightenment, a scientific revolution. didn't experience the French man purse craze. And as a result, their thinking is entirely different than ours because those social and political, cultural, you know, seismic events, those forces shaped Western thinking. It's not that way with Russian. So when Vladimir Putin begins the interview with this lengthy historical dialogue that begins in the ninth century, you can almost see a little thought cloud above Tucker Carlson that's like a W-T-H. I mean, what's going on here? What is he doing?

And he would say, you know, afterwards that he thought that maybe it was a diversionary, you know, tactic, a filibuster, as Carlson, you know, called it, but that he would later decide that Putin was sincere. I assure you that to Russians, this history matters, and to Americans who have little sense of their own history, much less that of others, to begin a narrative in the ninth century is bizarre to us. And that is because it's not wholly a criticism of the American people. We are a nation that is founded by people who are quite self-consciously leaving their history is personal and otherwise behind. We are a very forward-thinking people, not Russians. That's not the way they think. That's interesting. I think, well, it's interesting, Larry,

because I don't know that that, you know, reality is reality, history is history. And so I don't know how, you know, it's not like Putin was saying anything that was not rational. We're all rational. It doesn't matter whether you've had a renaissance or an enlightenment or a scientific revolution. Presumably we're all rational. And what Putin was saying was rational and it was understandable. It doesn't mean that you have to agree with it. But I think it was interesting for him to do that. And it was interesting for those watching in the West to remember, oh, yeah, there was this thing called the 9th century.

That history goes back and that it is valuable. for us always to be thinking of, you know, how we got here and so on and so forth. But just in the interest of time, what ultimately was your takeaway from the interview between Tucker and Putin? Well, my takeaway is that Putin is he's savvy. He's politically savvy. He's smart. He comes off as even. charming in this interview. But I have two primary takeaways that relate not so much to the interview itself, but relate to the interpretations of the interviews. And I think this is very, very important for people to process. You know, I find myself criticized by both parties, you know, pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian. I had a guy today say that I was, you know, some kind of pro-Ukrainian,

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Check it out. Welcome back talking to my friend Larry Taunton about the interview with the Tucker Carlson conducted with Vladimir Putin, conducted with Vladimir Putin. And you said Larry just before we went to the break that, and this to me seems unavoidable that, you know, you have the United States of America, you have the people of America. And then you have the State Department. Then you have these neocon deep state hacks, these corrupt bureaucrats running foreign policy in a way that is not consonant with what most of the American people would want. But we've kind of farmed this out to these experts. And these

experts seem to get it very, very dramatically wrong, costing us billions and billions of dollars. and what happened in the Ukraine. I mean, I have to say anything that Biden is for, I smell a rat to begin with. It doesn't mean that he couldn't conceivably be right, but I already smell a rat. And then when all the celebrities jump on the bandwagon, when I've got Ben Stiller, you know,

putting his arm around Zelenskyy. And right away, I go, something doesn't smell right here. A narrative is being pushed. I go for jogs, for runs, wherever I am around the country. you see these Ukraine flags and you think, what does Ukraine stand for? It's this corrupt country. Why do I feel like I'm being sold this narrative? I don't, you know, I don't get it.

And that seems to be part of what the pushback was on Tucker Carlson's interview is that he was allowing for some clarification. He was actually being a journalist asking questions that the journalists in our chattering classes have not been asking for the last year. Yeah, well, listen, this was a key part of what he had to. say. He basically, when he got to modern history, if, you know, if the founding of the Rurikid dynasty in the ninth century seems very obscure and misty past to Americans, the modern history he recounted should not, and it matters. Putin basically acknowledged Russia's expansionist policy in the Soviet era. I mean, the two of us will remember those documentaries we saw We were subjected to in schools that showed the hammer and sickle, you know, a red bleeding out all over the world.

Now, this is George Kennan's domino theory, the idea that communism would expand, countries would fall like dominoes, until it was on our border, quite literally. And this, of course, came to a head in 1962 with the Cuban missile crisis. Kennedy threatened cruise job, Russia, with thermonuclear war if they put missiles in Cuba. Now Putin says since the collapse of the Soviet Union, which you all said to us was the end all, we could join the community of free peoples, which we thought we would be. You can dispute whether or not he's sincere in that, but that's his claim. And I can tell you at ground level being in Russia at that time, that is what Russians themselves believe. They liked Americans and they wanted you to like. Listen, I remember this myself keenly.

It was a glorious moment. It was the fall of the wicked Soviet empire, the evil empire. And suddenly, Russia could be Russia. Russia is not the Soviet Union. And so, yes, you could now welcome this essentially European nation back into the community of nations. There was a moment where I think the whole world thought this is going to happen. And it seems like a handful of bums. in Foggy Bottom decided, no, this is not good for business.

We want to pretend that Russia is still the former Soviet Union. We want to beef up NATO. We want to bring Ukraine into NATO. I mean, it just strikes me as bizarre. And I keep thinking, I know I'm missing something. But basically, that seems to be what happened. It's absolutely scandalous. Yeah, it's interesting, Eric.

You know, I bought about this time a pirated copy of the Scorpion CD the wind of change. You remember that saying, I walk along the Moskva down to Gorky Park, listening to the winds of change. Did you ever think that we could be like brothers? You know, Scorpions were a West German band, and here he is saying, did you ever know that we as Germans and Russians could be like brothers, any money singing about the collapse of the Berlin Wall? This was a euphoric time. Now, Putin and his narrative said, but you guys didn't welcome us. Instead, you kept expanding NATO eastward until you had annexed Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, border states, Russian border states.

And he says, if that's not enough, in 2014, Obama CIA toppled a freely elected but pro-Russian Ukrainian government. And he says, and that was intolerable to us. And that is when we invaded eastern Ukraine. So this is his narrative. He says, you guys started this. You guys provoked us and you knew you were provoking us. Well, that seems accurate to me. I have to say, Vladimir Putin is no George Washington.

He's no Bonhofer. But that narrative is accurate, basically. And that's what staggers me is that. The entire mainstream media and a lot of the conservative media seem to be invested in the idea that Russia is no different than the former Soviet Union. We need NATO. I'm absolutely baffled, absolutely baffled how this great moment was squandered. And now we have decades behind us in which we've been promoting the idea that there's east and there's west. And I think there was east and west when you had, you know, the Soviet Union, this red monolith, this evil empire.

But that ended. And we still continue that way. So I don't know where this is going to go, Larry, but I thought that it was brave, genuinely brave of Tucker to have that interview. But how that's going to affect foreign policy, I don't know, unless we reelect Donald Trump, I worry that nothing will change. Well, listen, I think there's a very important part of all this. The Democrats, the left, the global left, their objection to Putin isn't on moral grounds. They're not bothered by the fact that he's an election rigging, and he is, you know,

he is imprisoned his primary opponent. They are not, they're not offended by the fact that he's an election rigging corrupt tyrant because their election-rigging tyrant wannabes who were trying to do the same thing to Donald Trump. But there is this key difference as I read it. As I listen to Putin, and I've listened to him for years now, corrupt villain, though he is, Vladimir Putin is a Russian patriot who will do anything for Russia. his opposite. Joe Biden is corrupt, but has sold his soul and his country downriver. And this is a very, very key difference between the two. Well, that's a dramatic, but unfortunately accurate way of putting it. Again, you know, it seems to me that I think I just saw yesterday.

someplace on the internet was probably Twitter, somebody reminding us of the screeching of Rachel Maidow and others about Russian collusion, about how Trump is being helped by Russia and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We knew then and we now have proof that this was all absolutely made up nonsense, lies, vicious lies and propaganda, forced down the throat of the American people for years. And even though we now know that that was garbage, nobody has repented.

Nobody says, yes, we got that wrong. We've just moved on as though, well, it was basically true, even though it was not. And we're still living with this bizarre narrative that tries to make out those who voted for Trump and Trump as somehow pro-Russian assets who were at war with democracy. I mean, it really is a diabolical narrative. Yeah, well, it really is. I mean, again, there are no good guys in this war. There are only victims.

And it's important, I think, that we recognize and understand that. The United States has no business. You know, I think I may have mentioned to you the last time, you know, we did an interview. I was at the World Economic Forum, and I had engaged former U.K. Prime Minister, Teresa. of May on Ukraine. And it was interesting because she was presenting, and maybe she believes it. I sense that she's maybe a little bit of a figurehead in this, but she was talking about

human trafficking, how they're trying to prevent the trafficking of Ukrainian refugees. And I engaged her in conversation with this, a semi-private conversation. That is, it wasn't, you know, during the public event, I went up and I, you know, I talked to her afterwards. And I said, you do understand, Prime Minister, that Ukrainians don't have to leave Ukraine to be trafficked. I mean, you were talking about these people coming into Poland. I was actually there. I was probably the only person in that room who had been on the Ukrainian border when these refugees are coming into Poland. And I thought, you know, this is a very interesting narrative. They're all wearing their lapel pins. As I'm talking to her, there's a guy standing there nearby.

with a, you know, Ukrainian t-shirt. I mean, it was, it was kind of funny. They've all got their, you know, their Ukraine swag. And they don't understand the corruption of the country. No, it's unbelievable. Larry, we're out of time. Always a joy to talk to you, folks. Check out Larry Taunton.

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Nick Searcy. You probably know him. He's an American actor. He started dozens of movies and TV series, not including Kojak. Nick, welcome. Yeah, Kojerk was a little before my time. There was a little bit before your time, but I know people. I know people. They're not that old that were in Kojak. Okay. And as a Greek American, I just want to say that is, you know, that's the gold, that's the gold standard. So, all right, you missed Kojerk, but you've done a lot of other stuff for my audience now we're talking about your new film america invaded um but mentioned to my audience so they'll so they'll remember uh what are some of the what are some of the bigger movies and tv series that we've seen you in well i'm i'm qualified to play cojack now i think

i was going to say people are watching the video man the uh this is very creative yeah the people the thing people most remember me for is justified of course the tv series and um cast way I was in with Tom Hanks. Long time ago, fried green tomatoes when I still had hair. And the shape of water most recently won best picture. Maybe that's the highlights. You've been, you've been busy. But you are now, I mean, look, you're an American patriot, and you're using your talents to make some very important films. You're the narrator for the new film, America Invaded. And I want to make sure people know that you can watch America Invaded at Salem now.com.

Salem now.com. But, Nick, what is this film America invaded? Well, it's a film about how porous our border is and how we don't know who's coming across it. And the thing that's most moving about it to me is that there's a lot of interviews with soldiers who have lost limbs and mothers, gold star moms who've lost children. And the question keeps coming up, why did my son, make this sacrifice to protect America from terrorism when America won't even protect its own border, won't even make sure that terrorists are not streaming across the border. And there are also interviews in the movie with coyotes who bring these people across the border.

And they say in the film that the Middle Eastern men pay them $35,000 to $60,000 to smuggle them across the border. Now, it's this idea that they're all coming from poor countries and that they're all Mexicans streaming across the border. That's not true. And this film reveals that. Well, look, it's shocking. And I've said this many, many times. It's hard for most Americans living their lives to process that we're facing genuine evil, that we have an administration in the White House, that whether you believe they stole the election or not, by the way they did, but whether you believe it or not, they have a fundamentally anti-American

cast to how they do everything. And the idea of an open border, this is a moral issue, this is an issue of national sovereignty, and they are the enemies in the White House of American sovereignty, and they're paving the way, you just said it, for the destruction of America. in a whole list of ways. One, of course, is the erasure of our border and the erasure of national sovereignty. We don't know who is here, who's coming in,

that's real basic. But then the idea, and you just said it, that we are allowing people in who are not poor Guatemalans looking for a better life. These are nefarious actors. These are bad people being sent here by our enemies, taking advantage of the open borders,

And so how do you escape the idea that the Biden administration or I don't know if it's the Obama administration, I don't know who it is and I don't really care Mitch McConnell administration, but that these folks, they know that this is happening. How do they live with themselves? How do you live with yourself knowing that coming across our border are hostile communist Chinese nationals coming into our country? ISIS people. How do they, how do you think, I mean, I'm just asking you to speculate, what do you think they think about this? Are they, they don't care? It seems to me that it's impossible to make any sense of, except that they've just gotten

in bed with evil. They really don't care about this country. They're actually trying to hurt this country. Yes, I don't, I don't believe this is incompetence. I believe it's deliberate. And I believe, you know, it's my speculation. don't have any proof, but I believe that there's a combination of people being motivated by money, motivated by foreign money from our enemies, and some of them are motivated by ideology. They have

actually, you know, spent a lot of time in our beloved college institutions being taught that America is an evil country that deserves to be destroyed, that it was founded on slavery and oppression, and it's the entire oppressor versus oppressed mentality that that's the, it's the entire oppressor versus oppressed mentality that is taken over in our colleges and institutions, that whoever has more is the oppressor and whoever has less is the oppressed. It doesn't matter about good and evil. And so I think it's a combination of corruption, a belief in a foreign ideology that hates this country, and possibly even blackmail. I think some of these people are compromised and saying, if you don't do this, you know, we have this picture of you, by the way.

Just so you know, we have this picture of you doing this thing. And, you know, we wouldn't want that to come out. And I certainly don't want that picture to come out because just the age spots in that photo of Mitch McConnell, no human being should have to look at that photo. It's gruesome. But, you know, we joke. But the fact is that, yes, there are people that are in bed with the devil. They have made decisions that.

that are absolutely antithetical to anything that a patriot would think the right decision. And we have to face it. So the film is America invaded. We'll be right back talking to Nick Searcy, who narrates the film. You can see the film at SalemNow.com. Salem now.com. We'll be right back. Mike Lindell and My Pillow employees want to thank my listeners for all your continued support.

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Again, mypillow.com. Use promo code Eric. Remember, you get free shipping on your entire order. You can call 800-9783057. 800-9783057. Use promo code Eric. Welcome back. Folks, there's a new film out called America Invaded about the horror at our southern border

and the narrator of that film, Nick Searsie is my guest. So, Nick, this is something that, you know, you care about this country. You made a documentary about what happened at J6 about a year ago. What was the title of that film? I don't remember the title of that film. Capital Punishment, and we're about to release a sequel in a couple of weeks, the capital punishment, too, the continuing story of how the government has not stopped coming after people who went to Washington on January 6th.

I mean, look, it is utterly scandalous, a dear friend of mine, John Strand. He was in solitary confinement for many months. This is like torture, folks. This is so evil. And again, it's almost impossible to believe that our government could be not just unjust, not just making mistakes, but really propagating evil against patriots like my friend John Strand and enacting policies that are just wicked. We're talking now about the new film America invaded.

And, you know, Nick, what is going on? Again, most Americans... You're pros of. We good? Can you see me? Sorry. I'll speak for a minute there. No, I know that we had internet problems. But I don't say, most Americans really hard to process that this is happening.

You just see this on the news and you think, don't we have a government? Aren't we supposed to protect our borders? It's kind of as basic as it gets. We protect our borders, right? We don't let strangers invade our country. That's why the film is titled America invaded, because to some extent, this is an invasion that's being allowed by the current administration. Yeah.

And I think the media is complicit in this. I mean, they broadcast the press secretary every day saying that the border is secure, and this isn't happening. And the people that are coming across are these poor families that need our help. and all of this propaganda, it's just the media is helping propagate this invasion. And it's also the film goes into the fact that a lot of what's happening are people that overstay their visas. There are many, many ways that people get into this country and then remain here long

after they should have been gone. And they remain here for nefarious reasons. So it really is a shocking film. When I narrated it, there were things in it that, you know, I consider myself to be fairly well-informed about this stuff, stuff in it that I didn't know. If you don't mind, share some of that stuff with us because I want people to see the film. Well, like I was saying, the way that the visa system is abused by people that maybe get into this country with illegal visa, but then disappear, disappear into America. and those visas are never enforced. Those people are never removed.

And that's just one of the ways. It's not just the border. It's also our government allowing others to abuse our immigration system, even in the legal ways that we allow immigration, they use that and then abuse it and our government does nothing. And when you say our government, this was not the case under Donald Trump. this is no yeah

I mean we need to be clear that Obama and the current administration which is probably still Obama but which presents itself as the dottering Joe Biden that they are helping this to happen. They are not lifting a finger against it

although they kind of make noises and pretend because maybe they're afraid of losing the election but they are actually helping this to happen. Yeah, there's also the entrenched CIA version of America that is, you know, supersedes elected officials that keeps this stuff going no matter who's president. So there's that whole element that is working against us. Even if we elect somebody like Donald Trump, there's still a lot of really nefarious things that need to be cleaned up about our government because those bureaucrats are there for 30 years.

and they're helping propagate all this. So what is the general story of the film America invaded? In other words, you're narrating it, but does it follow a family, or how does it tell the story? Well, I would say that the most important part is how letting this happen to these families and these soldiers, and they see the people streaming across the border in spite of their heroic efforts to protect. this country, the demoralization that happens to them. And you hear in the news about how recruiting in the military is so down right now. You can see why. People are looking at this administration and how this country is being run. And they say, why would I, why would I offer up my child?

Why would I advise my child to join the military at a time when America won't even protect its own borders? Why should we send our kids overseas to lose the military? And so, to, to lose their lives to do something that the American government won't do. And that's, to me, the most heartbreaking and the most moving part of the film is talking to these Gold Star moms talking about their children and why they joined the military. After 9-11, they felt like that was their Pearl Harbor and they wanted to protect America. And then they see the Biden administration not protecting America at all. Well, no, it's absolutely evil. Folks, so you can see this film at Salem now.com. Salem now.com. It's America invaded. And I can mention two other films, the film that I narrate, letter to the American Church. I want the church to get involved in this. So when people say, hey, what can I do? What can I do? Everybody who calls himself a Christian in America, see this film America invaded because it will educate you. It will make you understand where we are. If you don't understand where we are now, if you don't understand that we're fighting genuine evil,

that within our own government, there's evil, and that you're supposed to be a part of the solution. You are supposed to be a part of knowing it's there and doing what you can to get people elected who will undo some of these wicked policies and to get involved however you can get involved. But I want to say that. And, you know, Nick, when I hear you talk about this,

just the other day on a plane I watched for the first time, never seen it for Hacksaw Ridge. Great film. It was so great. I was thinking, this is one of the most amazing films I've seen. Who directed it? I forgot. And then at the end it says Mel Gibson, I thought, wow, what an amazing film.

But that film is about, you know, at the end of World War II, American patriots giving their lives for this country. And when you think about the people who have given their lives for this country, you can't help but feel a sense of debt that I need to do what I can now for my country. So I recommend Hacksaw Ridge, folks. You want to get fired up. But right now, I hope. you'll see America invaded. Salem now.com. If you go to SalemNow.com, you'll see how to watch it. But it's important that we understand what is going on and that we pray and ask God to lead us in terms of how we can be a part of the solution. America invaded at salemnow.com. We'll be right back.

Welcome back. I'm talking to Nick Circe, who's an American actor you've seen all over the place. But now you get to hear him. He's the narrator for a new feature. film available at SalemNow.com called America Invaded. So, Nick, I think a lot of times the challenge for people is that we need to see what is happening and it's bleak, it's horrifying. But then the question is, why should I have hope? What gives you hope in the midst of all this? Well, I'm glad you brought up that you hope the churches get involved and see this film and understand it because I think at the end of the day, you and I would agree this is a spiritual battle. This is not something that is just a matter of politics. This is a battle of good versus evil.

And I think what gives me hope is my faith. And, you know, my belief and my faith that God wins in the end and that we have to do our part, not that we just, you know, let it go and say God's going to take care of it. We have to do our part. But I do truly believe that God will win in the end. And that's the battle we're facing. It's a spiritual, it's a spiritual battle. Well, and the question, I mean, we all know God wins in the end. We know that God is on his throne. We know that, but we don't know how that's going to work itself out in terms of history. We don't know, does America win in the end? We don't know that. In other words, we, we know that God wins in the end no matter what, but we don't know if he's going to, I mean, in the book that I wrote

letter to the American Church, I'm dealing with the issues that in Germany, in the 30s, the German church refused, not all, but most refused to take a stand because they thought, well, we don't want to be political, we don't want to get too involved, we don't want to be controversial, we just want to preach the gospel, we just want to do church, we don't want to get in trouble, we're just going to go with the flow. And we see that that is all the devil needed, that those churches were working for Satan while they're having their nice services because they refuse to do the thing, the one thing that God asked them to do, which is to stand against the evil.

And so in my book letter of the American Church, I'm saying, okay, America, now your turn. If you, as the American Church, do not stand up. What we've been talking about at the border, everyone should be outraged. There is unbelievable sex trafficking going on, child rape, fentanyl pouring into our country, ravaging middle American communities, working class communities. If you don't see that as a moral issue, as an issue that is right there for the church to deal with, If you don't see that, and you say, well, we don't want to take a stand. You know, you have drunk the woke Kool-Aid.

And there are many churches today that they have drunk the woke Kool-Aid. They think they're supposed to just be compassionate. But it's not compassion. It's fake compassion. It's not virtue. It's virtue signaling. And that's basically where we are. And it's one of the reasons that I hope people will see the film SalemNow.com, at salemnow.com, America invaded.

Because, folks, you need to understand this is a moral issue. This is not merely a political issue. It's a moral issue, which makes it a spiritual issue. And if you love your neighbor, whoever your neighbor is, the kids that are being trafficked, the families that are being destroyed by fentanyl, it's some gruesome stuff. And I think, you know, Nick, what gives me hope is that God would allow these horrible things to happen to wake up those who could still be awakened. There are people who are going to see this film.

And finally, they're going to say, you know what, I got to do something. I got to do something. The question is what, but it doesn't matter what, folks. If you say God, lead me, show me, he will. So, Nick, the film is available at SalemNow.com. Is that exclusively at SalemNow.com or are there other places? I think that's the only place right now that it can be seen. I believe that's true. Yes, I believe that's the place to get it for now. And there's a lot of other good stuff at Salem now.com. Folks, check it out, salemnow.com. The film is America invaded. be more important. Nick Searcy, thanks for being a patriot and lending your talents to God's purposes in this country. Thank you, sir. Thank you so much, Eric. It's an honor. Thank you.