The Eric Metaxas Show - Lt. Col. Allen West

Episode Date: January 9, 2022

Lt. Col. Allen West is running for governor of Texas and outlines his impressive resume of service in both the military and in public life -- and touches on the appalling "spin" placed on the events of January 6, 2021.

Welcome to the Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Hey there, folks. Welcome. This is the Eric Metaxus show. As you know, every now and again, I have guests that I'm excited to talk to. Today might be one of those times because I was told by my producer that we might be able to get Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, who's running for governor of Texas. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, is that you? This is me.

It's good to be with you, Eric, and it's good to see you again. And I just want to wish you a happy new year. Happy New Year to you. I really, I'm excited to talk to you. But, you know, as much as I've admired you over the years, the idea that you're running to be governor of Texas is hugely exciting. So I really want to talk to you about that. I want to talk to you about yesterday and the January 6th, which my head's going to explode with anger at how the left has been portrayed. that in cooperation with the quote-unquote mainstream media and the conservative media.

But let's just talk about you. Some people know you, some people don't. Where did you grow up? You've got an amazing background, obviously being a lieutenant colonel, being a member of Congress. Tell us a little bit about yourself, if you would. Well, I was born in 1961 in the inner city of Atlanta, Georgia, and a Blacks-only hospital.

I grew up in the same neighborhood that produced Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., It's called the Old Fourth Ward neighborhood in Atlanta. My elementary school was right across the street from Ebenezer Baptist Church. I had two fantastic parents. My father was a World War II veteran, an Army corporal, served in the European Theater of Operations. And my mother did a little over 25 years of civilian service to a Marine Corps headquarters there in Atlanta. My older brother was a Marine in Vietnam. At the age of 15, my dad challenged me to be the first officer in the family because he and my older

brother were both enlisted. So I started wearing a uniform back in 1976 in high school junior ROTC. And then I went on to the University of Tennessee. And on 31 July, 1982, I was commissioned as a second lieutenant in the Army and the field artillery. And I served 22 years active duty in United States Army, 13 different countries, three different combat zones. I retired in August of 2004, been married for 32 years. My wife, her dad also was a career Army 24 years. He's been and all into National Cemetery. He served two tours of duty in Vietnam. We have two daughters.

Our oldest is 28, and that's Aubrey. The youngest is 25. That's Austin. And we have one grandson. His name is Jackson Bernard, and he is seven months old. That's way too much information. Can you cut it down to about a sentence? No, you know, it's so funny.

Normally, when you interview people, you really want their story, and you are one of the very, very few that actually gave me exactly what I was looking for. Normally people will kind of do kind of the false humility thing and say, yeah, I'm just a dad. It's like, yeah, we know you're just a dad. But tell us about listening to your background, it's thrilling because it reminds us, really, that there are folks out there like you who do have an amazing background that prepares you for leadership, whether that's as governor or congressman.

I want to talk to you about a number of things that you said. First of all, we've got MLK Day coming up. And when I think of Ebenezer Baptist Church, the fact that you grew up in that world, it was another world. You talked about a Blacks-only hospital in 1961 Atlanta. And yet today, and this is why I'm so excited that you exist and are out there, today we have the man who is the pastor of Ebenezer Baptist Church, who is a mark. Marxist, leftist. How dramatic is it that the dream of Dr. King would devolve into the horror of what we see with Senator Warnock representing Georgia? It's just an amazing moment in history to see how far we have fallen. Well, without a doubt, I will tell you that the progressive socialist, Marxist left, has gone in and they have co-opted. They have infiltrated. they have infiltrated the black community and that is the black church. You look at this organization,

Black Lives Matter, the two leaders of Black Lives Matters will tell you they're trained Marxists. So tell me what this Karl Marx have to do with the black community, what does Karl Marx have to do with the Judeo-Christian faith heritage, which is very strong in the black community. And so Dr. King would probably be rolling over his grave because if he would look at where we are today and his great quote that he was dreaming for a country where his children would not be judged, by the color of their skin, but the content of their character. Now here we are in 2022, and that's all we talk about is the color of skin. So I think that we need to go back to our fundamentals and which is part of that fundamental

is our Judeo-Christian faith heritage, and especially in the black community and on all communities, and start to realize that there's some immutable truths that are out there. But yet we see the deception that is out there, the lies that are out there, and that ends up decimating so many of the communities. And therefore, when you pull the black community away from what it truly is, now you see all of the breakdown of the family, when you see the lack of fathers in the home, when you see the lack of good quality educational opportunities

and economic opportunities, we don't want to continue and perpetuate that. But that's exactly what the left wants to do. And I think it comes down to two different choices, and this is what I always told people, you can either choose to be a victor, but you can choose to be a victim. And there's one ideology that wants more victims than they want victors. It's fascinating because, you know, I always want my audience to be tracking ideologically and to understand that when you talk about Marxism,

when you talk about BLM, infiltrating the churches, the tremendous irony is that Marxism is fundamentally and unavoidably atheist. So you have you have people who are, let's be honest, they're hypocrites, they're liars. They do not believe in God or what the Bible teaches, but they know there's power in the church. And so they have infiltrated the churches, never declaring themselves openly, that they're against the family. They're against strong black men. They're against all the stuff that you could imagine was the strength of the church when Dr. King was a part of that church. They are undermining. And we have to talk about this, because a lot of people don't understand this and even conservative media, whether it's Fox News or News.

They don't get into this stuff in terms of what has happened, how the churches have been infiltrated. But it is amazing to me that we now have a senator from Georgia who is pro-abortion, who I don't think he's any kind of an Orthodox Christian in the most basic sense. And that's representing the quote-unquote black churches. It's just, it's horrifying. Let's get positive here. You, sir, you're running for governor in Texas. Now, help us understand how do you get from, you've got a relationship with Tennessee, with Florida, with Texas, and of course with Georgia.

So what is your biography, and how do you land on running for governor of Texas? Well, you know, my last duty assignment in the Army was Fort Hood, Texas. And, of course, anybody that's been dragging their wife around for 20-some-odd years, you're going to ask her where would she like to settle down for retirement if you want to stay married. And my wife is originally from Jamaica. She is a legalized American. And so she wanted to go to South Florida. She's a brilliant woman, MBA and PhD.

And she got an offer from Raymond James. She's been a financial advisor for quite some time. And so we went to South Florida. And that's where I ended up running for Congress and being elected there. But back in 2014, you got the opportunity to come back to Texas. to work with a conservative think tank here. And her parents, mother and father, they were still alive at the time.

They had retired here in Texas because they were also military. So we came back here to Texas. And when you think about the history of Texas, when you talk about me being native born from Georgia and then went to the University of Tennessee, you know, the very first vice president of the Republic of Texas was Georgia,

Mirabola Mar, Mara, Mar, the very first Secretary of War of the Republican War of the Republic of Texas was a Georgia. And that was named Thomas Jefferson Rusk. And James Fannin, who was the officer that was murdered, massacred with his troops at La Bahia, Goliath, was also from Georgia. And of course, we know about the relationship of the state of Tennessee and how we got our nickname at the University of Tennessee as the volunteers came from those Tennesseans that came here to the state of Texas to include a former member of the House of Representatives by the name of Davy Crockett. So I think there's a lot of consistency.

There's a lot of parallels. Listen, you've more than covered it. That's fantastic. I wanted to end on a positive thing, and you did by bringing up Davy Crockett. We're going to be right back. Folks, I don't know about you, but I'm sticking around. We're talking to Lieutenant Colonel Alan West. Stick around.

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I want to talk to you about January 6th, but I also want to talk to you about why you're running for governor of Texas, not in Texas, but why he decided to do this. Will you be running up against Greg Abbott? Is he stepping aside? where do things stand in the world of Texas politics today? Yeah, well, first and foremost, I'm not running against anybody. I'm running for the state of Texas. And really, when you think about Texas is so important to the survival of our Constitutional Republic of America.

And when you look at what it's happening here in Texas, you know, it's January. In January is national slavery and human trafficking month. Texas is the number one state in the United States of America for human and sex trafficking. Dallas and Houston, and I live right outside Dallas, Dallas and Houston, or the top two cities for sex trafficking in the United States of America. You talk about the drug trafficking crisis that we had last year, over 100,000 drug overdoses. All that fentanyl is coming across the border right here in Texas.

And so I was taught in the military that warriors moved to the sound of the guns. And as you know, I was the chairman of the Republican Party of Texas. And so there are many legislative parties that you can advocate for that, for whatever reason, we're not getting passed here in Texas. And so that's why I stepped down as the chairman of the party. to run to be the governor of party. And I can tell you one of the most heinous things happening here in Texas is that we have child gender modification processes and surgeries going on. And so we have hormonal therapies, gender transition therapies, and puberty blockers being given to our children.

As young as eight years of age, we're seeing surgeries being done to remove healthy body parts, but yet we couldn't get that passed. We couldn't get school choice pass. We couldn't get historical protection monument and marker protection pass. So, There's a lot of those things that, you know, people came to me and said, hey, look, we need a strong constitutional conservative to stand up for Texas. And that's why I ended up running for governor. I have to say, I'm thrilled you're running for governor because, look, I think most Americans see or certainly more Americans than used to see, now see that we're in a fight. And that if you don't fight when you're in a fight, you lose. If you think you could sit this one out, you lose. and we are losing and we have had leaders. I won't mention them by a name, but Greg Abbott and others,

they've played patty cake with the dark forces. They have not seemed to stand up to, as you just said, drug trafficking and just transgender madness, which is harming children, but they don't seem to have the political will to say this is a fight to the death. This is not something that we can compromise on. And, you know, if I lose power or whatever, it's not about me.

It's about kids. It's about truth. And we just, I think most people in America, they're waking up to the idea that we need leaders who get that, who don't shrink from a fight and understand that this is, this is everything. There's nothing more important. So I really am excited that you're running. This is tremendous. I want to, just because it's the seventh, I want to ask you about January 6th.

I've been really sickened to see how even many on the conservative side have bought into the just ridiculous narrative of January 6th. I can't tell you how many people I know who were there that day. And you just, the way they have been demonized, to me, it's an absolute attack on America and on patriots in America. and it's very ugly. So I just wanted to know if you, how anything you wanted to share on that?

Well, sure, absolutely. It goes back to what Rahm Emanuel said, never let a good crisis go to waste. And so what the progressive socialist left is done is they're using this to try to demonize, denigrate, and actually destroy constitutional conservatism and anyone that stands up for it in the United States of America. The fact that we have Americans that have been held for almost,

well, over a year now, no trial, no charges being brought against them, but held a solitary confinement for what? But yet we saw an entire year almost in 2020 when leftist, Marxist, anarchists by the name of Antifa and even Black Lives Matter got out into the streets. They destroyed federal buildings. They burned down businesses. They attacked police officers. David Dorn and St. Louis was killed. That's one of the people that we remember. But yet none of them were put in jail. None of them were brought up on any charges. None of them were arrested. matter of fact, the sitting vice president of the United States of America was enabling and

raising money for many of them to be released on bail. So I believe that you have to have one standard. That one standard in America is the rule of law. But yet for the progressive socialist left, they believe that they're above the law. And now we have a bifurcated system. Well, I've said it many times, but it seems to me that the real villains in what is happening in America are the Republicans who are not fighting. In other words, I expect a Marxist to behave like a Marxist, and I'm never surprised when people in the Democratic Party make common cause with Marxists who are fundamentally against the founder's vision for America. But when you see people who are Republicans playing along virtue signaling, even sadly Ted Cruz yesterday making a comment,

I don't know. I'm absolutely fascinated by how people get affected by the Beltway mentality, by the media echo chamber that they feel I need to say this so people know whatever it is. I'm not an insurrectionist. I'm not a racist. I mean, it's so preposterous that even folks like Ted Cruz would go there. I mean, I expect maybe Senator Cornyn to go there if you don't mind my bringing that up. But I don't expect that from Ted Cruz. So I'm really horrified. Well, one of the things that the military teaches is that you don't win on defense. And Republicans seem to always want to be on defense. They allow the left to be able to dictate and dominate the narrative. And we continuously respond and react to it. And I think that what you're talking about is absolutely correct. We've got to stand for something or else we're going to continue to fall for every single thing that they bring up. And if we don't start to show backbone, if we don't start to show courage in the face of this crisis and what they're trying to do,

which is they're the number one enemies of this democracy that they're trying to say that everybody else is. They're the ones that don't want to have a picture ID to vote. They're the ones that are instituting a philosophy of governance that is antithetical to the Constitution of the United States of America. And so there comes to be a time. We need people to stand up and say those things. But I think Marcus Tullius Cicero, the great Roman statesman, he kind of referred to this as the arrogance of officialdom. And so you have these elected officials that believe that they're untouchable, and they may say one thing to appease the constituents, but in truth and in their heart, they just want to be a part of that club up there in Washington, D.C.

And I tell you, being down here in Texas, a lot of people are furious with what Senator Taylor Cruz said yesterday. Well, there's no doubt about it. And I think that, you know, it's very tempting if you're in that world, you know, to play to the gallery, so to speak. but because of the age in which we live, it's not working. When you make a comment like that, it goes out to the country and people feel betrayed. And I think that when we think of what actually happened in terms of violence across cities last year,

when we think of people being shot, Scalese and others, it's just extraordinary that whatever it is that happened on January 6th, if we'll all I would get to the bottom of it, that this would be puffed up into some kind of, to the idea that this was some kind of an insurrection. And I'm thinking if this was an insurrection, then senators should have been killed. Were any senators killed? Where they shot? Was the vice president stabbed? Oh, no.

Well, then it seems to me that this is the most pathetic excuse for an insurrection I've ever heard in my life. It's monumentally pathetic, and yet the people on the left, and of course, many National Review and others have somehow felt the need to go along with the narrative. It's unfathomable to me. It is totally unconscionable, and you think about, you're right. If this was an insurrection, without a doubt, it goes down with the grade of an F. It was the most poorly planned and executed an insurrection because, first and foremost, no one had any weapons, no one had any arms. The only people that had the weapons in their arms were the Capitol police officers. The only people that died on that day in or around or near the Capitol was Ashley Babbitt.

But yet the person that shot her, nothing has happened to that individual. So this was a riot. There's no doubt about it. It was a protest. There's no doubt about it. But when you compare it to the violence of the left and what you have seen them do out in the streets. And remember, in 2020, you had three Donald Trump supporters that were murdered, One in Portland, Oregon, one in Denver, Colorado, and a black man in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Never heard anything from the left about that. It's just astonishing. And of course, we have no idea how many of the people involved in what happened on January 6th were FBI, were people who were part of some kind of a sting operation. We know what happened with Governor Whitmer in Michigan. We have a history of a CIA and an FBI doing. the most nefarious things, messing with the narrative, and then kind of stepping back and acting as though, well, we don't have any need to do with it. It's just, it's insulting to the American people.

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And right now, though, we still have a few minutes left with Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, running for governor of Texas. You said a moment ago that we're an ideological battle. I talk about this all the time. Many people don't want to think that that's true. They want to think we can just go along. But the Marxists have dramatically overreached because of COVID. Because of many things, they have had an opportunity. to really crush liberty in America on a way that we have never, ever seen.

And we have to fight it. And I know you're a fighter and you see this. If you were governor by God's grace of Texas, how do you see being able to fight in this battle? Because it's not a battle with guns. Well, first of all, you have to understand that the left does not believe in the rule of law. They believe in the rule of certain entities. entities, those entities are academia, the media, the courts, and then also they believe in mob rule and the mobocracy that you have out there. And what we have to come to understand, Eric, is that this is less

about Republican and Democrat, R&D, after a name, are really starting to mean less and less. It has to do with how does an individual see the relationship of an individual citizen to the institution of government, because that's the difference. Constitutional Conservatism, which is really classical liberalism, if you study John Locke and natural arts theory, life, liberty and property is all about the individual, their rights, their freedoms, their liberty, they're sovereign because their annihilipar rights, as Thomas Jefferson wrote, come from a sovereign God. But what do progressive, socialist, Marxist, communists, or as Mark Levin calls them status, what do they believe? They believe in the preeminence of the institution of government over the

individual. And that's the fight that we have to have right here in Texas and all across the country. Give you a case and point. When government, Abbott decides that he's going to say who or what is essential, that certain businesses can stay open and other businesses have to close. That's not an enumerated power that he has. Benjamin Franklin once said those who would surrender essential liberty for temporary security in the end deserve neither liberty nor security. So we have got to have this discussion about liberty once again. You can't have so much stepping up to a podium in the White House saying that I'm mandating that you have to get this certain thing injecting to your body,

edicts, orders, mandates, and decrees. That's how you rule over people. If you want to govern it's through the legislative process it's by the rule of law. Well, I really woke up to this just a few years ago. I wrote a book called If You Can Keep It.

Those are the words of Benjamin Franklin. That's right. I really understood how because we have not been teaching really the founder's vision of what America is and why we need to be proud to be American.

and love this nation. Because that's been waning to the point of non-existence over the decades of our lifetime, we now have a citizenry that is easily fooled, easily lied to, easily swayed, because we no longer have the muscles of liberty that we need to exercise. And that's, I think, why we're in the battle we're in right now, because there are many Americans, they don't understand this. They don't understand that I ought to be proud to be an American. and that that has nothing to do with jingoistic chest beating or white nationalism or Christian nationalism.

It has to do with liberty for all. To me, one of the major battle zones is the public schools. Yes. And you talked about the school choice. Maybe you can touch on that. Yeah, without a doubt, I think that when you look at especially our urban population centers, the lack of good quality education, the public schools are run by the teachers' unions, It's not being run by the parents. As a matter of fact, we saw in Virginia where the candidate, the Democratic candidate for governor there, Terry McCullough said that parents don't have the right to make a choice or decision about what their kids are being taught.

And that's why you saw that issue, education, go to the forefront. When you have people that believe that the history of America started in 1619 when the first slayship landed, instead of July the 4th of 1776, we're not teaching. They're not teaching. They don't want us to know our fundamental liberties and rights. They don't want us to know about what the Declaration of Independence says. They don't want us to study the Constitution. They don't want us to understand civics.

And so through this education process, we've got to get back to teaching that which is true and right about America, good, bad, and the ugly. You know, one of the things that here in Texas, the Republican Party of Texas was founded on Independence Day of 1867 by 150 black men in Houston, Texas. A lot of people don't know that, to include a lot of Republicans don't know that. And so that knowledge is power, and that's what the left is trying to suppress, revise, or even a race. Well, it's an uphill battle, but we're finally waging the battle. We're finally fighting the battle. And it's thanks to folks like you, really, that I have hope. I really do.

I think that, you know, it's a funny thing that, you know, Greg Abbott is just squishy enough that you think, listen, we can't, we can't do this anymore. We need, everyone needs to stand strong. If Ted Cruz and Greg Abbott can't stand strong, we're lost because we do look, the nation looks to Texas, this whole nation, as you have said many times. And so I know that you feel like you're in a battle, not just for Texas, but for the country. We just got 30 seconds, but touch on that if you would. No, you're absolutely right. So goes. Texas, so goes America, so goes America, so goes the free world. And so therefore, so goes Texas, so goes America. And I wrote a book about that called Hold Texas, Hold the Nation. And I

think that a lot of people are starting to see it come to fruition. It is intentional. It is purposeful what the Biden administration has done unconstitutionally implementing an open borders agenda to flood illegals here at the border of Texas, which is close to 1,300 miles long. We're going to have to leave it there. We will have you back, Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, God bless you. God be with you also, Eric. Thank you. Folks, Eric Matakas here.

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It's the most wonderful time. Folks, welcome back. I'm talking to Kevin McCullough, aka Boat Stradamus. And Kevin, you are really not only bright, but just tremendously well-informed on all these issues. And I always learn things when I talk to you. And I hate learning.

I just want to let you know. I hate it. You do, God. But when I talk about it. to you. I learn stuff and I'm really grateful to you. But I got to tell you, I'm also grateful to you for partnering with us in partnering with CSI. And I wanted to talk to you about that. This is Christmas season. People want to do know, what do I do with my money? What do I get so and so? I keep suggesting to people, you cannot beat this. The idea that if you give money to CSI,

go to metaxis talk.com, you can help free a slave, literally. This is a nightmare evil that's happening today. We can actually do something about it. Tell us, because you know more about CSI and about these efforts than I do. You've been more involved. I want to encourage people today to go to metaxistalk.com, and I'll get the phone number. But this is like an, it's an amazing opportunity. It doesn't matter if you give $10 or $20 or $100 or whatever you give.

This is an amazing opportunity. It's almost unbelievable that this evil exists and it's almost equally unbelievable that we can actually do something about this evil with our dollars. I think you can't overstate what you just said, Eric, and that is that the evil of slavery still being around is so abhorrent to the average person's way of thinking that they have a difficulty understanding that it does. they have a greater difficulty understanding that there are more people enslaved today than they've ever been in human history, especially given the post-ab abolition movements of Europe and the Americas and where we've gone with all that. But in between sex slavery and chattel slavery across the world, you've got millions literally that are living subservient second-class cast lives that are not of their own decision. They're not of their own determination. and in Sudan in particular, where the world came in and when the Sudanese were having their civil war,

and you had the Arabic, Islamic jihadist north, and you had the Christian South. You had the Arabs frequently going into the south, ransacking villages, taking people as property and removing them and taking them back to their homes for slave work in the north. when you understand that when the world came in and divided those two countries and said, okay, you get this area, you get that area, but didn't do anything about the slaves. And at the time, there were probably 130 to 160,000 people in captive slavery in northern Sudan at that moment. You kind of understand that the world missed a very important piece of that puzzle. Now, over the last 15 years, CSI through the diligent work and partnership with people like, your listeners have said, well, we can do something about this.

And so similar to the reconstruction era or just the era, just the era, you know, just following the Civil War and preceding it, you had, in essence, what were called retrievers, people that would go into the south, scout out slaves and try to get them through the underground railroad to the north to freedom and to be able to provide for them a new life, a different life. In Sudan, they've had the same thing. There are a handful of Arabs that work with CSI. They personally want a good relationship with the Christians in South Sudan.

They are motivated to help CSI find these slaves and get them home so that they can live safely and well. And CSI, through partnering with your listeners, for only $250 says we can give them a brand new life. Now, the majority of that $250 is not used for the liberation. The majority of that is used for the establishing of what that slave needs when they come back to freedom in South Sudan. So whether it be a goat to produce milk and food and commerce, whether it be tarps to live with to protect from the weather elements, whether it's gardening tools or cooking utensils, etc. A $250 package basically is called a bag of hope and that's what that person gets when CSI has fully retrieved them from slavery. And I want to, you said give 10, 20, et cetera. I want people to think differently about this.

Not the amount of dollars that they spend, but the amount of lives they want to impact. Because if you can give $20 once, could you give $25 10 times? If you can give $50 right now, could you give it over the next five months and rescue a slave as well? Or are you of the income level where you could take $250, dollars make a sacrifice in your monthly budget and say, okay, our family is going to every month for the next 10 to 12 months liberate a slave. Now, Eric, you know that I am not a very wealthy person, but my family and I came to this decision a year ago and we said, you know what? The boys were hearing me talk about CSI on the radio. They were very concerned about slavery and they said,

Dad, what can we do? And I said, well, we could sacrifice and give and liberate a slave every months. So the McCullas have said for the last 12 months, we will liberate a life every single month as God provides for us as a family. And you know what? He's done that. So if people are listening and they say, well, I want to be a part of something amazing that God's doing. Put yourself forward and say, God, if this is what you're calling me to, I know that you'll provide. I want to be obedient. And I want to give and liberate a slave right now. It's, it is very difficult to believe that this evil is happening and we really want to push it away because it's too horrifying. But again, folks, it is amazing news that we can do something about it, that you can do something about it.

So there are people who could give $10,000. There are people that could give $2,500. But it really doesn't matter, folks. Whatever you're able to do, this is an insane opportunity. I want to give out the phone number because there are people that prefer to call, but just go to Metaxus talk. The idea of giving monthly, by the way, is brilliant. Thank you for for mentioning that, Kevin, because that's just, it's just beautiful. And I think families should get involved in this with their kids. It's just pretty easy. I don't even challenge you.

Talk to your kids about it and see if they don't have the same response my kids do. Kids know kind of inherently when something is unjust. And if your kids do respond, then be ready to say, okay, let's as a family attack this problem and do something about it. All right. Here's the phone number, folks, if you want to call Metaxistock.com, it's all there, the banner.

But if you want to call 888-253-3522, I hope you will call 888-253-3522. 888-253-3522. And don't forget, by the way, this month only, if you go to Neutremedics.com, use the code, Eric. It's 30% off, not. not 20 nutrometics.com.

We'll be back talking to our friend Kevin McCullough, aka Lodestradamus. And gentlemen, this is The Irfman Taxi Show, and I'm talking to my buddy Kevin McCullough. Hey, Kevin McCullough, can we continue the conversation about CSI? Absolutely. Okay. You were talking about how kids, when you bring this up, I love the idea that we have an opportunity to say to our kids, let's do this as a family. Let's decide that, you know, from your allowance and we're going to put together this much per month and we're going to give it to CSI.

So if we give $25 as a family or $100 as a family per month, we are doing this together as a family. It's a beautiful thing. And as you said, children have the ability to understand like, wait a minute, what slavery? and we need to do what to free a slave. It's only that. Yes, we can do that. We can do three times that. Let's do it.

Kids have that way of seeing things. I've noticed the same thing about the issue of abortion. Children, when you explain these things, they look at you and they think, what? Yeah, we get it. We haven't been educated away from common sense. So let me give the phone number again. And by the way, folks, it's metaxis talk.com. All the information is there.

but if you prefer to call, it's 888-253-3522. 888-253-3522. Well, let me also say this, Eric, when you're talking about kids and practical applications to life, one of the things I've discovered is that it is one thing to be a talk show host that talks about news and issues and gets really passionate about them and so forth. It's another thing to do that same show in a studio at the end of your kitchen where your kids are watching, you every day, particularly during the lockdown season, and we don't have anywhere to go. So in the course of the last year, you not only had, you know, this issue of CSI where it came up

and I was able to explain slavery, but we also dealt with the George Floyd issue and race in America. And I find it kind of ironic often that people who consider themselves believers but are very left of center on most of their beliefs complain and moan all the time about racism and what's going on and how we should be doing so much more. and I often will ask them, well, what have you done recently? I mean, you marched in a BLM rally at one point, okay? That was probably before you understood that Black Lives Matter is committed to destroying the black family. Whatever you think your activism is, what are you tangibly doing to make a difference in the life of somebody who looks completely different than you?

It's one thing for you to say that to me, to kind of push me in the face with it, but what are you doing? And they'll say, well, you know, I'm doing this to that. what are you doing? And that's a doorway where I get to open it up and say, let me tell you about something that can be done and that we can all do together. And I talked to them about slavery. I talked to them about Sudan. I talk about how that was essentially a view towards superiority of faiths. And you had the Arab North persecuting the Christian South. And when you kind of peel back the layers, all of a sudden it's another opportunity to say if it's one thing to say you want to change the world and make a difference and leave this world a different and better place.

It's another thing to put your money and your activism and your passion and your heart into doing something that actually does that. And Eric, when we take a slave from a slave master in North Sudan and we've returned her to her home in South Sudan, she goes from death to life. She goes from an existence where she has been cursed at, abused, raped, assaulted, usually physically, have pieces of her body cut on, et cetera, and you move her from that environment into a place where she has longed for, missed, remembered, and when she comes home, if we think the prodigal son story in the Bible is exciting, wait till you see what a slave coming home to South Sudan looks like, because they throw a party that goes on for a week because their lost soul, their lost friend,

sister, neighbor, daughter is home again. And so it's not just an issue. of creating equality amongst people that look different. It is an issue of helping those who are in death to come back to life. Everybody has been listening. If a third has moved as I am by what you're saying, they will go to metaxis talk.com, click on the banner for CSI. Grateful to you, Kevin, for moving my audience to do the right thing. God bless you, my friend.

You got it.