The Eric Metaxas Show - Mallory Millet (continued)

Episode Date: August 9, 2021

Mallory Millet continues her stroll down memory lane with stories involving such Hollywood notables as Bradley Cooper, Tony Bennett, Joan Collins, David Bowie, Michael Caine and George Hamilton.

Texas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas. Hey there, folks. You may remember my previous conversation with Mallory Millett. I thought, you know what, let's just keep going. It's too much fun. Mallory, I don't know how to sum you up. There's no way to sum you up. You're a fascinating person.

You're a person of devout Christian faith. You love your country. And we normally talk about that kind of thing. But last time we were together with our friend Anne Colter, and your husband Thomas, who's here, we were talking about Hollywood stuff, and I just thought you've had so many experiences with so many people that are really, you know, bold print celebrity names. I mean, Marlon Brando and Elizabeth Taylor, these are not, you know, minor figures. So why don't we start there? I mean, you were acting very early, and you said already in the 60s you were studying acting on the same street as the studio.

Well, no, I was... With Lee Strasberg. I was not studying acting in the 60s here. Okay. I was... I think I studied with Lee that was in the 80s, I believe. Lee Strasberg was still teaching in the 80s? Well, he died in 1982, so it couldn't have been that.

It was before he... Because if this is the mid-80s... It was just before he died. I hate to break it to you. That wasn't Lee. So he died in 82. He stars in the Godfather. I'm sorry, he doesn't start on the Godfather, but he is...

he has a role in Godfather, too. He plays Hyman Roth. But Marlon Brando studied with him. All the greats, it seems to me, or a lot of the greats from that era, Paul Newman. They studied with Lee Strasbourg. Well, wait, no. Marlon did not really like the actor's studio. He studied with Stella Adler.

And Stella Adler was a whole different kettle of fish. Stella Adler and Lee Strasberg became rivals, tremendous rivals. Okay, I forgot that. So the method, that was Stella Adler or Lee Strasbourg? That was Lee Strasbourg. Okay. So I know Marilyn Monroe studied with Lee Strasbourg. And because we've had Johnny Rousseau's been on this program, he had a role in the Godfather.

And he was just talking about, you know, that all happened on this street here in New York City. But so all these greats studied with Lee Strasbourg or Stella Adler. But you knew Brando. So let's just go back to Brando. How in the world did you meet Marlon Brando? Well, it was again the Minda effect. We call it Minda land. Okay, this is the woman that you met in the 80s.

I met her in 1968 when I came back to America. And when I left Manila, everybody in Manila said, you have to look up Minda Feliciano. She knows everybody in Hollywood. She will introduce you to everybody. It will be a really quick in to the Hollywood side. Okay, so you are very young. It's 1968. And she introduces you to Marlon Brando?

Yes. Yes. Well, actually, her girlfriend, there were two girls, Marie and Minda, that were Filipino girls who hung around together all the time. And Marie had had a long history with Marlon. They had been on again, off again lovers for a long time. She ended up having a baby with him. That's another whole story that I can tell sometime. But it takes up too much time.

It's a very meaty story. A very meaty story? What the heck does that mean? Marie and Marlon. We're friends. I don't know what you're talking about. What does that mean? They had a baby together. A pithy story. A lot of people, they can assume how that happened, but there's more to the story. Oh, well, he denied paternity, which, of course, he was the father of the child. There was no question about it. Well, see, I also denied paternity, but here's the issue. I'm not the father of that child. So in my case, it's not inappropriate.

But in his case, he was trying to avoid pain. And the thing is that they had agreed to have a baby together. They had plotted this. baby they had planned this baby so now when I meet her she has a handshake deal or did it go farther oh no when I meet her she has this four-year-old daughter and I have a four-year-old daughter did the four-year-old daughter look a lot like Marlon not really no she had a weight problem like marlin but but when I met Marlon he was still slender he had not gotten fat he was still very sexy and gorgeous and absolutely a movie star when I met him.

And Marie and Marlin had this classic, wild, mythic, I don't know, legend relationship where they just, I saw them, I watched them throw whole sets of China at each other. Isn't that sweet? I just like, you know what? St. Paul talks about that. It's just a beautiful thing

when people become one and they throw China. The vitriol and the passion and the sexual magnetism between these two people was just beyond distracting. I mean, you could hardly conduct a life around these people at all because it was one crazy melodrama after another. And I got what ended up in the middle. I ended up being the one that Marlon is calling at 2 o'clock in the morning saying, do you know where she is? I can't find her anywhere.

Can you imitate Marlon Brando? What? I love the idea of Marlon calling you up in the middle of the night. Oh, constantly, he called me in the middle of the night. Marlon had a thing about talking on the phone, and he would call you at midnight, and at 9 o'clock in the morning, you would still be on the phone with Marlon. You would be on the phone with Marlon. I would have hung up.

You couldn't get away with that. You hang up, he'd call you back. Well, you know, you can take the phone off the hook. You probably aren't aware of that technology. You can take the phone off the hook. But, okay, so Marlon, you're in this world with these people. And of course, Marlon Brando in 68 at this time, he is a, it doesn't get very much bigger than Marlon Brennan. But he was, he had run, he'd run his career into the ground.

I mean, when you think about his big stuff, you know, when he was working on, well, all the classic films with Ilya Kazan. But by the later 60s, he couldn't get work. And why? Why? Well, first of all, he hated Hollywood. Despise it with a red-hot hatred. Not only that, but are you ready for this? I don't know.

Am I. This is going to be, this is quite a revelation. Remember this children listening. Marlon Brandel loathed acting. Yeah. Loathed it. Hated Hollywood. Why?

Hated the whole acting world. Hated Broadway, hated movies. Why? Didn't want to ever act again. Because he used to say to me, Mallory, it's fine for a woman. It's a feminine profession. You might be able to get somewhere in it and you might enjoy it. But for a 44-year-old man, he was 44 at the time,

for a 44-year-old man to have 20-year-old kids who don't know anything about anything, giving them orders and telling them when they can work and where to stand and how to speak and how to do. I've had it. I'm a man. I need to have a manly life. You know what I'd like to be? You know what I'd give anything in the world to be?

And I'd say, what, Marlon? I'd sit there and I'd say, you know, I'm sitting here listening to Marlon Brindle. Say he hates acting. And nobody's ever going to believe me. I mean, you're blowing my mind here. And he said, you know, I'll tell you, he said, if I had my druthers in this world, I would be the first vice president of Prudential Life Insurance Company. And I'd go, ha ha ha ha. That's hilarious.

He was very smart and funny, but that is hilarious. Well, he's basically saying I want a normal life. I want a normal life. want to go to work and come home and be done with it. Right. I just want to have a normal family with some kids and live like a normal person. I can't stand this life. No. When did he do, what year did he do mutiny on the bounty? Do we know? That's way before you met him. That's like the early 62, 63. Something like that because that's, I think it's before I went to Asia right about, I think I might have been in Asia when he did. I mean, I'm just thinking that was when he, he met the woman,

Tarida. That he married? Yes, he did marry Tarita. So he married her and had children with her. Yes. How many children did he? He had 12 children in total. That he was willing to acknowledge?

Yeah. And as a matter of fact, he finally acknowledged Maya, Marie's daughter. My daughter and Maya were very dear friends. They played together. We lived around the corner from each other. But he had always denied, eternity and now Maya was around 12 years old, something like that. And one day I got a call from Marie and she said, Marlon is going to have Maya over to his house and he's going to tell her that he's her father.

I said, oh my gosh, how did that say? You're kidding me. She said, no. And he wants Kristen to come with her. Now my daughter was Kristen. My daughter. So she had to be in the middle of this melodrama? So she said he'd like Kristen and Maya to come to the house together.

Yeah. And he's going to include Kristen in this crazy scene. You know what? I would like Kristen to be there if we can arrange this when I tell my daughter that I'm her father. Now, she already knows that, but I still want Kristen to be there when I repeat it. We're going to be right back, folks, talking to Mallory, Millett. Hey, folks, are you concerned about memory loss for you or a loved one? Viva Lord's founder prayed that God would show her the solution to me.

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who grew to be the size of a house at the end of this life. I mean, it's kind of an amazing thing. Orson Wells, Dan Aykroyd, there are certain people that they just blow up beyond reckoning. You try to imagine what, excuse me, what's going on over there. But you knew him when he was thin. Oh, he was glamorous. He was beautiful, beautiful human being.

I mean, beautiful. Physically. Physically. And, you know, as an actor, I, sometimes I always wonder what's the big deal about certain people. And then you see something. When he was in, I guess it was Julius Caesar, when he does the, Friends Romans Country. Friends, Roman's country.

When I saw that, I thought to myself, now I get it. I just thought to myself, I never really had seen whatever that was, the Genesequois, about him. I mean, everybody knows he's a great actor, but where you finally see like, oh, my goodness, he's a genius. But you saw the human side of him. So in the late 60s, he's calling you up. You said during the break that you talked him out of suicide. Oh, yeah. Oh, Marie would call me, and she'd say, I'm up in San Francisco right now, and it would be midnight or something.

I'm up in San Francisco right now, and Marlon's home alone, and he's going to kill himself. And you've got to get over there right now. And I'd go, Marie, it's midnight, it's Marlon. He's, you know, please. Mallory, you've got to go there now. You've got to get in your car and get up there right this minute. So I would do that. I would tutel on up to Marlon's house.

And this is where? Up on Mulholland Drive. Yeah. 12,900 Mulholland Drive was his address. I don't remember it very well. And I would go up there and there I would find Marlon and he would be, you know, Marlon was an alcoholic. This is something that nobody in the whole world ever knew.

Nobody knew he was an alcoholic. It was never said about him. You've never heard it said about him, right? You don't hear that, no. No. No, he had a terrible problem with alcohol. And he would be up there all alone with a. a bottle of booze.

Would he be wearing a kimono or a dress or something? No, no. But he had a raccoon who lived in his bathroom. He had a raccoon named Emma that lived, closeted up in the bathroom. So, I mean, Marlon was not. Why did Marlon have a raccoon in his bathroom? And when you say anything, it sounds to me like some kind of a dirty euphemism. He had a raccoon in his bathroom, if you know what I'm saying.

No, no. He had a raccoon closeted in his bathroom, just saying, what do you mean what Emma was doing in the bathroom? Why did he have a raccoon named Emma in the bathroom? I can't tell you. I have absolutely no idea. It was instead of having a dog, I have no idea. I used to ask him and he'd just laugh. No, he just, I don't have no idea.

Okay, but so you'd visit him and he. I'd go up there and I'd talk to him. I'd keep him from killing himself. I'd be there for four hours. Why would he want to kill him? kill himself? Oh. I don't understand.

Well, first of all, alcohol is a depressant. Yeah. And people who drink a lot of alcohol are generally depressed all the time. You are now, and I've known you for years, you're a woman of serious Christian faith. Were you a serious believer in those days? No. Was that part of the strength that you brought? So no.

You were just a friend. I was very new agey then. Uh-huh. I had a guru in Manila, you know. You had a guru in Manila? Yeah. That sounds like another dirty euphemism. Hey, you remember that girl?

I'm worried about your mind. Herk. In Manila, do you know what I'm talking about? No, so wait a minute. Come on, you had a guru in a minute. Okay, so you're into the new age, but you'd go and you'd talk to Marlon and Brenna. You know, I don't mean to make light of this. This is horrifying, so he really wanted to kill himself.

Oh, definitely. Oh, he wanted to be dead. He hated his life. He was so miserable. What's the last connection? When did you stop being friends with him? Well, you know, I really needed so much to be able to make a living. And my friend Minda's husband was a man named Leo Gild, who was a gossip columnist in Hollywood and very, very well known.

And Leo was worried about me too. He'd say, we've got to figure out a way for you to make a living. And one day he called me up, and he said, I want you to come to a meeting with me today. I've got an idea for you. So I go to this meeting in Hollywood with a man, and I've never gotten it straight what this man's name was. I keep thinking it was Huntley-Buntly. I keep trying to remember this man's name. It was sort of like Mercedes-Benz or, I don't know, it was one of those crazy names, something like that.

And Leo ushers me into this room with this man, and this man starts telling me that they run confidential magazine. And they wanted to have, you know, remember Rona Barrett? Unfortunately. Rona Barrett had this five-minute show that went along with the evening news every night. It was a gossip show. I remember Rona. They wanted to have a rival to Rona Barrett. And they wanted me to do a five-minute nationwide broadcast of gossip running along with the evening news.

Like R. Corey Hay. And they offered me this job right off the bat. They said, we're going to do a pilot. We're going to work on it for six weeks. And we'll pay you $1,000. a week. I hadn't seen a thousand dollars in, you know, I don't know how long. I was flabbergasted. And yet I wanted to be a serious actress. I was into this thing where I was going to be a great actress and all of that. And so I kept saying to these people, I can't do that. I mean, nobody would

offer Rona Barrett or Roll on Broadway. It would be a joke. Right. Nowadays, you could do stuff like that. But then, no, that was not allowed. And I said, I can't do this. I mean, I was heartbroken. I needed the money so badly. But I said, you know, my mother would die. She would kill me. If I ended up a gossip columnist on the evening news, my mother would never speak to me again. I mean, I just, I can't do it. I can't do it. So Huntley-Buntly

said to Leo Gild, take her to the Brown Derby, buy a big, wonderful lunch for her and talk her into it. So Leo took me off to the Brown Derby and we're sitting at the Brown Derby, which is where all the stars were, it was this fabulous restaurant. And he's saying, look at this place.

If you take this job two months from now everybody here is going to be coming and kneeling at your feet. They're all going to want to be. I said, I can't do it. My mother would never speak to me again. You have to understand. I've got this mother that you don't cross. And he just, you know, he said, Mallory, are you crazy?

Listen to me. You're a lousy opportunist. I said, why? He said, look, people are offering to pay you $1,000 a week for six weeks. And then at the end of the six weeks, it's a redo like you can both decide. Both sides can decide whether to go on together or not. They'll have gotten the pilot out of you, and they'll be able to use that, and they can go hire somebody else. Just take the $6,000 and run if you want to do that.

But at least you'll have money, and I went, oh, my God, I'm so crazy. Why didn't I think of this? And he said, let's do that. So we went back to Huntley-Buntley's, and I have no idea what this man's name was. You're making me wonder. Who was this guy? And we told him I would take the job. So I go home, and I'm going to have this job where I make a thousand.

$1,000 a week. I'm so excited. I'm so thrilled. And at midnight, my phone rings. Let me guess. Is it Marlon? Marlon. And you know, the way you knew it was Marlon is you'd pick up the phone and there'd be this breathing. He never announced himself. He never started, he would just be sitting there. I'd say, Marlon, I take it. It's you. Definitely you. You know, he said, I hear you got a job today in this terrible tone of voice. I said, what? What? How do you know? He said, I know everything that happens in Hollywood, Mallory. You've got to get used to this. I know what's going on. You've accepted this job to be a gossip columnist. Are you crazy? Why would you have anything to do with a man like Leo Gild? He's the lowest of the low. So he talks to you out of career suicide. So he's yelling at me. He's saying, how dare you? I said, okay, okay, here's what your problem is, Marlon. You're paranoid and you think I'm going to sell you down the river because I've been so close to you and I've been involved in so many intimate moments. with you and all kinds of personal, seriously deep personal experiences and traumas and dramas, and you think I'm going to use that.

And he said, no, no, I said, yes, that is. Marlon, I know you. This is what you're worried and upset about. And he said, no, it's not. No, it's not. You want to be a serious actress. You're a phony. You don't want to be a serious actress.

You just want to get famous. I said, no, I don't. I'm going to do it and then quit after six weeks. And he said, no, you're. You should go to the actor's studio. If you want to be an actress, go to New York and be a serious student of the theater and learn everything about how to be a great actress if you really want to do that. But don't have anything to do with Leo Gill and don't do a stupid, cheap thing like this.

You're above this. You're too good for this. I don't want you to do this. So we're screaming at this point, we're screaming at each other. We're interrupting each other. Now we've gotten into a thing where we're each hanging up on the other. One of us is hanging up and then the other one would call them back And then the other one would hang up and then call them back

And this went on for several hours It went on half the night And then that was it I sent him a telegram the next morning That said your mother wears combat boots And Did you eventually I quit the job the next day

But I'm saying with Marlon Did you ever, you know, shake hands and make up? No, I never saw him again You never saw him again No because within two days I had left That's another whole story I had left for New York City

He told me to go to New York City and study And you did And I listened to him And you never talked to him again When he was famous in the godfather And all that you never talked to him No, no Okay folks

We come back We're going to find out why Don't go away Folks we're talking about Marlon Brando And then we're not talking about Marlon Brando Either way, you win Hey

We're talking, Mallory Millett We're talking to you about your relationship with so many of these celebrities, it's almost, it is comical, it's amazing because you're a serious person. You've had these amazing experiences. And I don't look for this. I've never looked. I've never wanted to meet celebrities particularly. Well, look, let me just.

It just keeps happening in my life. God has his hand on your life. Yeah, he can't get into that right now, but that's a fact. Yeah. And he's used you in dramatic ways. You said you wanted to finish up something about Marlon. You said that you had something else to say. Well, the thing that really broke my heart.

art was what ultimately did happen to him because with all these children and all this craziness with his son murdering dog, his daughter, Cheyenne's fiance. And Milin had this gorgeous daughter, Cheyenne, that he had with Trinita. Chian was the daughter. Anybody who's seen, they should see his mutiny on the bounty. It's spectacular. And he plays Fletcher Christian. And of course, this is historically true. It's a true story. But yeah, so making that film, he falls in love with this woman. Terita. Who is a Tahitian.

So gorgeous. And has a child. Several children with him. Several children. And one of them is Cheyenne, who is the most exquisitely beautiful girl you ever laid eyes. So Marlon's son murders his daughter's husband, fiancé. Fiancé. I remember when this hit the tabloids about 30 years ago, whatever it was, it was.

It was horrifying. Well, and I knew Christian from the time he was about five years old. He was an adorable little boy. Did he ever get out of prison? Yes, he did get out of prison. He's dead now. He's dead? Yeah.

Marlon Brando's son is dead. How did he die? I don't remember. I'm not quite sure. Gosh. But he... We joke around, you know, about these glamorous lives. They're such pain.

I remember Dick Cavett said this once. He was talking... Maybe it was when Elizabeth Taylor... Taylor died, because he knew all these people, and Dick was talking about how, you know, when you know them close up, there's tremendous pain. He says, I wouldn't trade places with them because there's alcohol, abuse, and misery and drug addiction, and people don't see that side. You saw that side. It's hell. I mean, Shelly Winters really wanted me to be a star, and she ensconced me in that house for two years and gave me exact instructions of how to conduct myself in

Hollywood and who the people were that she would introduce me to and everything. This is the 70s. Yeah, and I never followed her director. I never did what she went. Because, you know, I didn't want to be a star. You didn't want to take that route. I don't, I've never seen such misery. They leave such wreckage behind them.

It is such a terrible way to live. I just never, I didn't really want it. And you knew Michael Kane pretty well. Yeah, oh yeah, very well. And, uh, because my friend, Minda nearly married him. Minda and Michael were together for four years. and they would come and they would be in Los Angeles living at Leslie Brickus's house. You know who Leslie Brickus is?

Oh, my gosh. Nobody knows who Leslie Brickus except Eric Metaxus. Let me tell you. I'll tell you why I know. Joan Collins, your friend was married to Anthony Newley. Yes. Okay. Anthony Newley, whom I can imitate, but I won't do it on the program.

Leslie Brickett, just about one of my favorite films ever is the Scrooge musical, written by Leslie Brickus, wrote the music for it. And the songs in that Scrooge musical came out in 1970. I saw it in Radio City Musical in 1970 with my father took me. And all I can say, or my grandmother took me. And all I can say is that those songs are magical and I've sung them my whole life. So to think that you knew these people really does kind of amaze me. Oh, I've lived with Leslie and Evie Brickis. I've lived with them. I've traveled with them all over Europe. I've stayed on Minda's yacht with them for weeks at a time. Did you ever meet Albert Finney?

No. Because Albert Finney stars as Scrooge in that thing. He was 34 years old, and he plays this old man Scrooge. But it's a great Christmas movie. We watch it almost every year. But the idea that you knew the man who wrote the songs that I've been singing all these years. Oh, and he's a darling. Leslie Brickis is a darling.

Is he still living? I just love him. Yes. I think he's still living. Is he, honey? Yeah. I think he's still living. I want to meet Leslie.

I want to meet Leslie and Joan Collins. Okay. Alvin, write that down. Okay. But what I was about to tell you is that when Christian Brando murdered Doug Cheyenne's fiancé, you know, I know the room that happened in, you know, the library that that happened in is the same room that he had brought my daughter and Maya into to tell them that Maya was his daughter.

He told her, you are my daughter. you can use the name Brando from now on. I'm going to take over your education. I'm sending you to a school in Paris to finish your high school, and you're going to go on to college. I'll take care of everything. I'm going to take care of everything. I'm going to be your father from now on.

And my daughter was a witness to this scene. She sat and watched the whole thing happen. And so that was the same room that that murder took place. I was so haunted by that. I'd spent so many hours in the case. that same room and that was the room that that murder had happened it's heartbreaking i mean you see these lives again they they seem to have everything you could ever dream of marlin brando and then you just see brokenness upon brokenness upon brokenness it's uh and you know Cheyenne is dead now too

the beautiful girl his daughter she committed suicide yeah that's amazing i mean this is truly horrifying i mean look you not you know and i know everybody needs the lord they need god he loves them and they are just so lost. They're living in a world where they've got everything but what they need. Oh, Marlon had no God, no God at all. You couldn't even get him near that. He was a complete atheist. He laughed at everything.

He had a lot of mockery in him, you know. And he was... I think we're going to a break here. Folks, I'm talking to Mallory Millett. Don't go away. Mallory, we're just talking about... your life. What a life you have led. And all of these characters that come in and out that we think of them as these silver screen gods and goddesses and you, you know them, you knew them. You knew Michael

Kane quite well. Yeah. How? Well, my friend Minda got involved with Michael King. I remember she called me up once and she said, guess who's in love with me? I never forget. I said, what a great of Not guess whom I've fallen in love with. Guess who's in love with me? I said, who? She said, Michael Cain. I'm going, what? What's this?

She had gone to the Philippines to spend Christmas, and Michael had been in the Philippines filming, and some friends had introduced her to him, and they got into a big romance. What year are we talking about here? Okay, we're talking about... I'm just trying to figure out, what was he filming in the Philippines?

I can't think of... We're talking about 67, 6. 68 right in this period. Yeah, I don't know. And she and Michael got into this four-year romance that was really very intense, very passionate, very kind of difficult. And they would stay at Leslie and Evie Bricketts' house all the time

because that's where Michael would stay when he was in Hollywood. Leslie and Evie had a big, beautiful home and up on Tower Road. They're not back in England? I spent no no at this point they had this beautiful house on Tower Road and I spent a lot of time at that house for various reasons whether Leslie was staying there or not it was whether Michael Kane was staying there or not it was just that we were all part of a little crowd there in Hollywood and and a lot of things went on at Leslie and at Evie's house because it was a beautiful place to host parties and in fact I spent one evening there at a party with George Hamilton and Robert, what's his name, the one that was married to Natalie Wood, Robert Wagner. Robert Wagner and George Hamilton. And Minda and I spent an evening the four of us sitting together for about four hours.

And Robert Wagner and George Hamilton together, they could have made a fortune as a comedy team, those two. They were so funny together. you just died laughing every single minute you were with them. They could not. They were so witty, so clever, so erudite, and so well. Was this before the death of Natalie Wood? Oh, yeah, because Natalie was there too.

Natalie was sitting. But she didn't make much of an impression on you. Yeah, well, she did. It was Natalie and Robert and George and Minda and I sitting opposite them, the five of us. And Natalie was a, I really got a key into her that night because I was watching her, she was very nervous about these two attractive women talking to her husband was seemed to be too interested in Mindemey or something she was a very very possessive wife extremely nervous every time he would talk to us it made her very nervous isn't this fascinating i mean we're talking

about one of the most beautiful talented women who've ever lived yes yes and she's insecure about robert wagner who i'm not that impressed with robert wagner and i kept wanting to reach over and say you know what you don't need to worry about me or Minda we're not after your husband we're not even remotely interested in your husband but even if you were did was he the kind of person who was interested in people who were interested in him i mean that's the funny thing if he were faithful why would you even think about that yeah probably i i don't know i have no idea uh he we never got vibrations like that we were just five people having a lot of fun together just the way we were the other night you know There was nobody trying to seduce anybody or anything like that.

Not that you know of. Seriously, you've had these so many opportunities with these people, but it is amazing. Now, Anthony Newley was someone that you knew. Of course, he was married to Joan Collins, but you didn't know him. I never met Anthony Newley. And is that because you knew Joan after or before? You know her after. It's because I knew Joan afterwards.

I met her on Mende's boat, and then she had me staying at her house a lot. lot. I ended up staying in her house a lot. And she stayed at my house now. I mean, we've had a 35 year relationship, Joan and I now. We've been through a lot together. So. Now, she is going to be on this program. I hope so. I'd love to get her on your program. I think she would like to do it, you know. If she knows what's good for her. Look, if she wants to work in this business, it starts here, okay? You don't kiss my ring. You don't work. No, seriously, I would love to, it would be so much fun to talk. to her, but I think... It would be. You two would be a hoot together.

You're both so funny. Yeah, a hoot. No, but it is interesting, though, that you've just known all these people. And you mentioned to me Elizabeth Taylor and Tony Bennett. We don't have that much time left. I want to make sure we get to everybody we were talking about. Well, the Elizabeth Taylor thing isn't so big. It's just that Joan co-starred with George Hamilton in a made-for-TV movie called

Monte Carlo that actually Thomas and I started out trying to produce. and Joan was at the height of her dynasty thing. She'd just got in the Golden Globe for Best Dramatic Actress on television. But Thomas and I went around trying to raise, well, first of all, we were trying to find a leading man for Joan. No one would do it. No one wanted to work opposite her. She was too old.

She was too old. Interesting. I mean, we would go talk to these actors. Who's that one that we brought the script up to? She's... Who? Yeah. Pierce Brosnan?

Pierce Brosnan. You know, these people, they want to, they all want to interact with 22-year-old girls. Right. And Jonah just turned 40 or something shocking like that, 50, something that, you know. And they were just saying she's all washed up. She's too old. We couldn't find a leading man for her. It was so infuriating.

It was just absolutely infuriating. So you guys were producing movies? Well, no, not really. You were trying to produce movies. us if we would be interested in being involved in the production. We were kind of trying to help her out. I can't remember. Yes, yes.

So anyway, they made the movie without Thomas and me. They ended up making a movie. She and George Hamilton co-starred. And the night that it was to be shown on television, Joan had a few people over for dinner. And she had George Hamilton, who co-starred with her, who was at that time cohabiting with Elizabeth Taylor. George Hamilton and Elizabeth Taylor. Wait a minute. I've never heard this.

Yes. Calvin, this is some juicy gossip on the Eric Metax's show. George Hamilton and Elizabeth Taylor. And Elizabeth Taylor had a big thing. Had a thing. Oh, yeah. Wow. Oh, yeah. They were together for a while.

I've got a thing for Hamilton's tan. But I just can't. He just won't give me the time of day. He also lived in our building. He lived in your building? In the building that David Bowie moved in to. She was married eight times. Yeah.

And but you're saying that she had, she had many years, some kind of relationship with George Hamilton. All right, we're going to have to put a pause. We'll be right back to find out more. Isn't that why people tune in? Don't go away. Talking to Mallory Millett. Mallory, I did the same thing with Pat Boone recently,

we just talked, you know, showbiz anecdotes. It's just so much fun instead of talking about, oh, my God, forget it. He's talking about meeting the queen twice, that kind of thing. But he never shook Mc Jagger's hand. And, oh boy, between that and the bongo player for Bowie, you've had a life. Okay, so you were just talking about Elizabeth Taylor, having some kind of relationship with George Hamilton, which I don't really like to picture.

I'm a Christian. I don't want to picture that. But go ahead. Well, it was this night that the Monte Carlo movie was going to be premiered on television. The late 80s. Uh-huh. Okay. I think.

Is that what it is, honey? Yeah. Okay. So I've gotten all of them mixed up, the 80s and the 90s and the odds. They're all decades. They're all decades. So anyway, so Joan arranged this evening where it was just her, she and the man that she was with at the time. And myself and George Hamilton and Elizabeth Taylor and a few other people.

There were maybe, you know, nine people there that night. So this is during the Larry Fortensky period? That was her eighth husband. No, she was with George Hamilton at this point. Oh, really? Elizabeth Taylor was with George Hamilton. What do you think of that? They were having a big thing that went on for quite a while.

Right. That's so touching. And so I got to meet, I just got to meet Elizabeth Taylor that night. It's no big, you know, big friendship or all kinds of intimate situations together. But I just found it so remarkable that everything I've ever heard about Elizabeth Taylor, you know, that she talks like a, sailor, you know, she swears like a longshoreman that she's this tough. I always thought she was this sort of tough woman. Yeah, yeah. She was the most feminine woman I have ever met in my life.

She was so feminine. Even more feminine than David Bowie? He wasn't feminine. No? What about, what about the guy? So Ziggy Stardust was kind of a guy's guy? Yeah, he was a guy. But a perfect gentleman you said.

A perfect gentleman with me. He was a perfect gentleman. But Elizabeth Taylor was so feminine. And these, they're always going on about her lavender eyes or violet eyes. It didn't look like that to me. They looked just like blue eyes to me. It was this big deal about these eyes. They were very beautiful eyes.

But she was just so feminine. And she just had the two of them. And yes. Okay. She was just very, very sweet. Just two eyes like the rest of us. But she. But a very sweet woman, very, very feminine.

You must have seen her in National Velvet with Mickey Rooney when she's just, what, 11 or 12 years old. When I see that film, it is so touching to see her as a girl. Isn't it? It's so moving to see her as a girl. And then when you see her in later films like, well, the really painful, you know, who's afraid of Virginia Woolf, it's so painful. And so it's such a cliche of the era that they would do things like that. And it's kind of heartbreaking because I think of her as that innocent girl that is just so moving in that film. National Velvet. Absolutely beautiful.

Well, so, and she's diminutive and feminine. So feminine. I never met a woman more feminine. How about diminutive? Is she the most diminutive woman you've ever met? Was she teeny weeny? No. No?

She wasn't as tiny as Lisa Shreve, for instance. Okay. But she just struck me so. different she was so different from anything people had ever described i was i was quite shocked you know um but we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna drag you into one final segment folks uh it's a special coda that we're gonna have we're probably not gonna be able to air it today uh or wherever this is uh taping we're gonna get into a few things that we can't talk about now because we're at a time mallory millet dot com uh mallory

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